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Will the Real Ayahuasca Tourists Please Stand Up?

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To celebrate the publication of Adam Elenbaas' memoir, Fishers of Men: The Gospel of an Ayahuasca Vision Quest -- published by Tarcher/Penguin in association with Evolver, and available in stores today -- we're presenting this article from the RS archives.

 

Having drunk in nearly 25 Ayahuasca ceremonies with four different shamans from three different countries on two different continents, I still do not feel capable of defining exactly what makes an Ayahuasca ceremony "medicinal" or "authentic." But I'm also convinced that I've never met an official "Ayahuasca tourist." To me, the conversation about Ayahuasca tourism is usually a cloaked conversation about what constitutes a reverent psychedelic experience verses a recreational one. It's an important conversation.

Psychedelics have always been profoundly enlightening for me and hardly ever what I would call "fun." Though I've had my share of psychedelic giggles, for the most part my "trips" have been sobering, painful and transformational. I remember the first night I ever tried a psychedelic. At the time I was addicted to morphine and methadone, was a habitual drinker and was living a sexually promiscuous lifestyle.

One evening a friend brought mescalin for us to try at my apartment in Chicago. Far from "getting high," I was taken on an intensely psycho-therapeutic journey. As the evening progressed I saw religious confusion and rebellion on my bookshelves, bursting with colors. I saw anger littered through my compact disc collection. I saw fear of my father in my toiletries. I saw drug addiction and sadness in the mirror, under my eyes, in the roots of my hair, in my dried skin and how it felt to touch my stomach and my liver. Everything was intelligent. Everything meant something. Everything was symbolic, like a small flame was given to me and a voice was calling to me, whispering, believe in yourself and wake up.

It was only several months after my psychedelic awakening that I locked myself into my bathroom to withdraw from methadone and morphine for the last time. Despite terrible nightmares and terrible fevers, my intention was clear: I want to be healthy again. Something far bigger than me had given me a vision during my mescaline journey, and I would never be the same again.

After quitting drugs cold turkey, I spent months researching the indigenous cultures that used psychedelic plants for healing and ceremony. During my research one evening in graduate school, I stumbled across a National Geographic television program that filmed an Ayahuasca ceremony at a lodge down river from Iquitos, Peru. That same night I decided that I would travel to the Amazon Jungle to drink Ayahausca.

I arrived in Iquitos, Peru some five months later and drank Ayahausca three times in the jungle. During my first three ceremonies I experienced universal oneness, I saw and spoke to Jesus, and I puked out enough drug residue to fill several puke buckets. Compared to who I was before I went to Peru, I have been relatively happy and entirely sober ever since.

In my opinion, if somebody is using Ayahuasca to heal and to grow, in order to bring more love to our planet, then, to me, it is "beneficial" and "medicinal." To me the important thing to remember is that good intentions usually dwarf small details and denominational quarrels. So on one level, my answer to the tourist question is simple: I haven't ever met an Ayahuasca tourist. I've met a lot of people with good intentions. I choose to see things that way.

However, on another level, there are many tensions about Ayahuasca and psychedelic medicines that are worth talking about. It's in my opinion that most of our differences in the Ayahuasca world come from what assumptions we make about Ayahuasca or psychedelic medicine itself.

The first of these assumptions is that Ayahuasca is a purely benevolent medicine. In other words, we believe that simply drinking Ayahuasca, under any circumstances, guarantees growth and healing because Ayahuasca is medicinal by nature. The extreme example of this generalization, one that has frustrated and even angered many devoted to the medicinal use of Ayahuasca, occurs when all psychedelics are referred to as "medicine." Many of us flash on the vision of some naked guy at Burning Man yelling out, "I'm tripping balls on this killer medicine, dude!" But if you've worked with Ayahausca in the jungle and screamed or puked your way through a childhood molestation sequence, then it's possible that something inside of you might react by saying, "It is not all medicine." Because those who have had deeply intensive healing sessions with Ayahuasca or any psychedelic medicine know that healing work can be terrifying and difficult.

On the other hand, sometimes people who are regularly involved with the ceremonial and ritual use of Ayahuasca can be holier-than-thou about other forms of psychedelic use. The extreme example of this generalization comes when you meet people who will not attend Burning Man on principle. Well that's just a hedonistic hippy parade. That's just rebellious and childish. There is no tradition. That's not sacred!

The tension between these two groups of people is never clear cut. It's impossible to say who's "authentically shamanic" and who is "posing." We can never define what makes something healing or medicinal, whether or not a shaman and ceremony are necessary, etc., but we don't give up the conversation. Tension always seems to arise whenever there is a mention of words like "unceremonious," or "medicine," and phrases like "Ayahuasca tourists."

So what do we do about our tribal conflict?

In the old days if the tribe were divided, it would be a good time for a story around the fire. So here's a story that might help shed some light on the tension.

* * *

This past April I went on a Reality Sandwich field trip to Peru. The 2008 Curandero Seminar, hosted by U.S. native Carlos Tanner, featured five different Ayahuasca shamans and a variety of interactive study sessions, including a handful of Ayahuasca ceremonies. The day before leaving to the jungle to cover the conference for Reality Sandwich, I had spoken at The Ayahuasca Monologues in Manhattan.

After sharing my visionary Ayahuasca story, I was greeted by a former alumni from the particular lodge I had been working at in Peru. When I told him about my trip to Peru to work with new shamans, at different lodges, he was shocked.

"Be careful of all those witch doctors and the black magic down there," he said to me.

By the time I reached Iquitos and greeted the other guests at the conference, I had formed an irrational fear in my head. Never having drank with any other shamans but those at my lodge of choice, I was afraid that I might get attacked by witchcraft in a ceremony, or that the mastery of the shamans and the strength of their mesa might not be sturdy enough to support me should I need help.

Sitting in the sun on the veranda of a café overlooking the Uycayali river in Iquitos, I quickly formed judgments about each guest of the conference and the quality of the conference itself.

"I mean, I hope this stuff works like I've read about. I want to leave my body and trip out." One young man from New York seemed like he had no idea what he was getting himself into. His only goal seemed to be "tripping out." I quickly assumed that his intentions were not good. Mechanically I began to form judgments about each one of the conference guests.

Carlos Tanner's conference introduction furthered my opinion.

"We couldn't get the hotel, so we're staying at a reservation park that has good bungalos." Only fourteen guests had arrived. The conference website had advertised nearly a hundred. Carlos and his master had a falling out regarding witchcraft, money, and the death of one of their patients. And the young conference staff, Carlos, an Aussie named Justin, and a young Brit named Ashley who was suffering from the venom of a brujo that had been hired to kill him, were scrambling to find a fifth shaman to replace Carlos's teacher.

Because of the disorganization and the disintegration of my biggest expectations for journalistically covering an important shamanic conference for Reality Sandwich, I figured that the focus of my article would be to expose "Ayahuasca tourism" at its worst. I had also decided that I would not drink in any of the Ayahuasca ceremonies for fear of my life.

However, as the week went by I befriended one of the conference guests, a psychiatrist from New York who had drank in nearly a hundred different ceremonies with a variety of shamans. One evening while we were sitting in the back of a crowded utility van driving back from the jungle to the city of Iquitos, he asked me, "You really think you'll be hurt if you drink?"

"I just don't feel like this kind of Ayahuasca shamanism is good. These guys don't have integrity. Why should their shamans?" I said.

"I've been just fine, Adam. Does that mean that I am under their spell? You came all the way down here. It doesn't seem objectively journalistic for you to formulate this opinion without at least trying it out. You can sit next to me in ceremony."

Although I was still scared, somewhere a voice inside of me said, Get over yourself and drink in the last ceremony. Nothing bad will happen to you.

The last ceremony was held at the Spirit of the Anaconda lodge with a shaman named Don Guillermo (a reputable shaman from Jan Kounen's Ayahuasca documentary, "Other Worlds"). Before the ceremony began I confessed my fear to the group, "I'm scared that I'm going to freak out again."

Several hours into the ceremony I began to cry when I heard the vomiting and purging of other conference guests in the lodge. I heard small laughter and the sounds of people receiving healing all around me. In my mind's eye I saw each guest as a child, and I saw Carlos as a child. Then from the heavens I saw pink and purple and golden star dust falling onto each one of us; blessing us. I listened to the sounds of Don Guillermo's Icaros and began to feel sick to my stomach as I contemplated the way in which my fear had separated me from being present at the conference. Inside of my stomach I felt a heavy sensation begin to work its way up and out. I doubled over and dry heaved into my bucket. Although nothing physically left my body, in my visions I saw slimy yellow ooze pouring out of my mouth.

I cried even more when I considered that my plan had been to return home and write a cynical story for the Reality Sandwich audience about "Ayahuasca tourism." I was going to say mean things about these people who were only doing their best. As I listened to each guest in the mesa purging, and as I continued to see each one of us as children, I said to myself, I don't know anything about anything.

The next morning I apologized to Carlos. "I judged you and this conference," I said. "I'm sorry."

"It's okay," he replied. "It's hard working with Ayahuasca. We're all just doing our best."

"I'm sorry I didn't participate more," I said.

"Don't blame yourself. This is exactly why you came down here. You came down to learn this lesson. You're welcome back next year. Write a great story for Reality Sandwich!"

On the airplane ride home I thought, now this is a good story for me to write about.

* * *

So what does this have to do with psychedelic medicine and the tension between their sacred and non-sacred use? Everything, I think.

Perhaps in the tension we feel between what constitutes sanctity and profanity, spiritually speaking, we should be careful to explore our personal history and not pretend to be objective when we can't be. If the conversation about Ayahuasca tourism and sacred psychedelic medicine is always concerned with such outward things like ceremonial candor, ritual procedure, rank and merit, then we will have failed in the same way many religions have failed. We will allow petty denominational differences and fear-based assumptions to divide us. As the avatar of my life's tradition says, "Take the plank from your own eye before you take the splinter from your brother's."

We should stay balanced by remembering that ceremony and tradition are not always restrictive and elitist, while sanctity and healing are not always ceremonial or traditional. It's important that we learn to see the good intentions in each other, always.

On the road of life, isn't everybody a tourist anyway?

 

Originally published on Reality Sandwich, November 21, 2008.    

Comments

awesome post

this is very inspiring, I have put this discussion in my own mind as use vs. abuse but this is more eloquent in it's presentation. The problem is that as you said it's impossible to be objective in our own lives. It is extremely difficult for me to seperate mere trivial pleasures with genuine spiritual and self enhancing experiences. thank you for this byte of knowledge

The End of the Native

Good article, very interesting. I think some of the concerns about ayahuasca "tourism" derive from a sense of unease about the consumerist aspects of any contact between the West and the exoticized Other - why do we have to go and dilute their supposedly unique and vital cultures with our dollars and presumed need for "healing," whatever that is? What impact do we have on them - and on human diversity in general? Now that ayahuasca and the curandero are commodities on the global market, perhaps these questions are irrelevant.

 

I suppose it comes down to the quality of attention and the nature of the dialogue the traveller brings to the culture he is encountering. It may indeed be touristic, ie consumerist, but I'd guess that he can't be a tourist for very long during an ayahuasca session.

 

Lots to think about - thanks Adam.

 

Having never left the

Having never left the country to participate in an ayahuasca ceremony I cannot say from any experiential standpoint whether or not I am convinced that ayahuasca tourism has created more of a problem for the traditional practices of native peoples.  There is definitely something to be said about how "ayahuasca tourism" has benefited indigenous healers and shamanic societies by bringing the  plight of their situations into the consciousness of more and more westerners.  

 

For those aware individuals who are deeply concerned about the state of the planet and its people this is but one more slice of the "reality sandwich" to bite into.  Its very bitter.  But, like Grandmother, it heals you.  When we are forced to wake up to and face more and more of our reality we are denied the luxary of complacency.  But, a shift in consciousness isn't simply about spirituality.  Its true that, in general, westerners have been spiritually deprived for quite a long while, probably centuries.  We've also been asleep to other important aspects of the whole.  In general, and especially in the United States, we have not had political and economic consciousness, we have not had health consciousness, we have not had class consciousness, nor have we had environmental  consciousness.  

 

The ceremonial workings of ayahusca and peyote have, for me, organized and prioritized these facets of the complete consiousness in my subconscious mind.  Had it not been for the shamans I've met and worked with, who themselves at one time were perhaps tourists, I might have remained disoriented, denying my whole reality.  Had I never seen Icaros and heard my visions I might not have looked deep enough at the interconnectedness of every single thing.  

 

I know that, after Grandmother and Grandfather, while working with other psychedelics like psilocybin, cannibis, and LSD, as well as through meditation, I have been visited by spirits I might not have known had it not been for the direction of the roadman.  The significance of individual healing isn't about the individual with ayahuasca or peyote, its about waking up with enough will power to be the change in your community.  That being said, there's definitely something to be said about the privilege of being able to afford the ayahuasca retreat.  

 

Knowing what we know now, is it necessary to continue such persuits?  How much damage is inflicted on the indigenous communities as this tourism begins to grow?  Is it necessary to do all of the damage to the planet that one roundtrip flight to South America would cause when a little research can most likely find you a ceremony within your own homestate?  If there are plants all over the world that contain the alkaloids to make ayahuasca shouldn't we be thinking about how we can begin to source local materials so we can have greater access to its healing properties, especially for those who cannot afford the trip.  If you're taking trip after trip down to the amazon instead of perhaps looking to the native people in your own area to build connections, to learn about their struggles, and to stand in solidarity with them, then perhaps class-consciousness hasn't really fit into your picture yet.  

 

Ayahuasca tourism, like every dualism, has its share of light and shadow.  The question is how to steer it more into the light.  One way we can do this is by thinking about our local communities and how we can benefit them.  Every moment is ceremonial.  

 

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Intention

Ecolocal: I have spoken with shamans who told me that although they wouldn't recommend it, individuals can take ayahuasca or other medicines if they prepare properly through diet, emotional readiness and set and setting. However, do not degrade a tradition that is several thousand years old. A shaman knows when and how the drug kicks in, and uses musical prompting, ambience devices like scents and smoke, and occasionally, will even realign his patients chakras so that the imbiber gets the most bang for the buck, so to speak. As far as Adam's article, to me it always reverts back to an individual's own intention. I've found it hard to keep a balance between preparing myself mentally for a ceremony, while at the same time keeping myself free of preconceptions or some kind of "mental agenda" to work on. I have found the effects to be most beneficial if I control my diet and sexual activity several days before, practice playing a drum or digididoo during those days as well, engage in a 24-hour pre-fast, and avoid imagining what the ceremony will actually be like.

well put

People constantly try to put their ego before others, I am glad you got control of yours and was able to experience the ceremony with people who had similar intentions.

A Needed Discussion

Propaganda Anonymous

Adam thanks for this piece and thanks for hopefully sparking a very important conversation about the use of Ayahuasca here on RS.

I think all the comments so far have been necessary components to conceptualizing where We 'Westerns' (haha, that's a funny term, isn't South America 'Western' too!) might move next with our relationship to plant medicines like Yage.

Leary, RAW, and Rushkoff speak about events happening in a three stage process, like the way information travels throughout one's body. 1) Reception 2)Integration 3)Transmission. Like the electric impulses running through a neuron.

I see this conversation here as a bridge from the Reception stage to the Integration stage. We are now thinking about the ethical use of something our society has been deprived of for too too long. AWESOME!

Or as Alan puts it thinking about these great spiritual tools with the appropriate lens of Class Consciousness. Indeed. I think this is key.

Eco raises some very good points about the role of the Shaman when working with the medicine, and I find myself agreeing with his criticism of some of the people who surround some Shamans as 'business associates' I have encountered both the good and the bad when it comes to organizers. The money hungry douchebags and the absolutely impeccable workers.

That was a big lesson for me. That just because someone drinks the medicine doesn't mean that they are ethically progressive.There are many, both 'Western Tourists' and 'Indigininous' workers who are just selfish. But they too play a part.

My own way to work with that element, up until now, has been to just stay away from them, and acknowledge that they too are on the path.

Charlie also wrote something I find to be true, The ROLE of a Good Shaman is to be a great guide. To work as a channel for Grandmother and work the energy in ways to bring to participants in the ceremony to a closer relationship with her. I totally agree with this. I draw the analogy of the difference between a Good MC and a Dope MC. A good MC will get your feet tapping, a Dope MC will get your hands clapping, ass shaking, and voice hollering.

So here we are now, thinking about our carbon footprint upon such a beautiful lover. The grace and kindness that this plant teacher has shown all of us thus far is beyond words. She is patient and she is wise.

Terrence McKenna spoke about how Ayahuasca has taken to the ground very well in Hawaii. The atmosphere is conducive to the growth there. I think things like this is part of the next step.

Also to go back to Ecolocal's post. People need to see some of the shady dealings that goes on with the medicine sometimes. There is no room for naive fantasies, this only gets people hurt.

This is one reason why I think Ayahuasca should be made legal. And some sort of structure set up where transparency of practice exists. And the dirty hands of Drug Czars everywhere be cast away from this medicine.

A bottom-up design that allows for enlightening conversations and responsible communication of wisdom gained, thus fulfilling the Third stage of Transmission aiding in a healthy 'Global Brain'

cultural erosion and subversion

too much contact w/ indigenous culture erodes their essence and too much dependence on foreign shamans at the expense of developing our own germane systems subverts our own culural base. It seems an oddly western concept to devalue the prophets at hand for the profits in the bush(or the jungle or mountain)...if you consider that what we know as the UDV is less than 50 years old then it seems obvious new religious perspectives on entheogens are still waiting to be introduced that go beyond the psychetweaking of the cult of Mental Health professionals or elf frolics of the rave scene and reach down into the chthonic viscera of true straight up unfiltered with a twist of shaken and very stirred up religious experience.

surprise me,

we should all make definate plans to be spontaneous...j/k ...how do visionary movements evolve, especially those that don't play to the cult of personality? I like beautiful ritual thats light on the dogma more onto katmanhoodoo w/ a side of scoobydoo, a mystery machine cult magical tour de force...mindfulness,dignity,hopefulness,sanity...and love is always a classic but so elusive...

I have worked with Carlos

I have worked with Carlos and am currently working with the teacher he fell out with. I would say that while it isn't necessary to go down to the jungle to drink, there are more healing benefits when the medicine is used in a ceremonial context with experienced guidance. This guidance can come in many forms - the UDV and Santo Daime have done wonders for their congregants, and there are all kinds of variations out there. The important things remain set, setting, and dosage. Presence or absence of an "official" shaman is less important than the intents of everyone involved.

Calvinist!

but yeah, buckling under to the will of a cult leader serves no one, not even the leader. WARMTH! A community of compassion w/ spastic profoundities erupting like the benevolent volcano God intends!

Blessings for Story Adam!

Adam,

Your story is powerful and resonant to me, as I went to Peru to partake and decided to refrain at the last moments from guidance within. I had a totally fulfilling experience, as many tripped and puked, transformed and evolved whilst I witnessed.

Your story was a perfect addition to spiritual ramblings I have been developing and so I borrowed some of yours to complement mine ...

http://communityvisionblog.ning.com/forum/topics/spiritual-economy-rambl...

What I found most impacting in your story, is the power of a vector which intercedes to break our trance ~ pure majik!

 

~ Namaste ~ Zy ~

 

~ blessings of blissings ~

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ancestors sing: porque te quiero tanto

Grace is a fire I have had the good grace to know in crucial moments. :-) Thank you so much for adding my work (with beautiful commentary) to your colorful and insightful blog. Much love to you friend, Adam Elenbaas

no, thank you!

you have openned many doors which will no doubt return to you. we are blessed by your resonance.

Unify Freely?

Hey Adam:)

 

The first thing which came up for me while reading this article was my experience drinking with a proclaimed 'shaman' here in the states.

 

As I was turning on to the medicine, I noticed immediate judgments against this man and his 'scene'. My partner experienced the same thing. It made me wonder what the rest of the group was thinkingabout us, and, weather or not the medicine had something to do with this shared reaction.

 

This reaction, I have come to believe, stems from our habitual human response to 'control' situations in effort to better understand what makes people 'act' a certain way.Perhaps the medicine does indeed reveal our reactions to people and how we can often fool ourselves into thinking that it is up to us to find a solution to other peoples 'problems'. curiously, us humans can't seem to divert from this obsession, our little plot to pat ourselves on the back by witnessing the shortcoming of others- maybe.

 

But how, with such an attitude can one effectively transmit a positive and solution based frequency to another when their mind has already categorized them and fitted them into an assumption.EGO.

 

Once again I am reminded of the ceremony, this shaman claimed the Sacred Vine would target the EGO. With this in-mind we see how it indeed amplifies the EGO and shows us, often at a high price, our own shortcomings. But why then do we provoke it and purge it...to feel good about ourselves? to undo our inner damage? to breakthrough to a place of journeying which enables us to 'unify freely with the source? undoubtedly...because who doesn't want to do that?

 

alright, enough of this. Love to the cyber family and families at large.\

Go Strong.AYDRA J

 

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Thanks for this article

Thank you for the great article Adam. And for me the seminar was great. I went to Iquitos without knowing what to expect, but was trying to avoid “ayahuasca tourism”. I didn’t want to fly in and simply be taken to a lodge that exists solely to provide ayahuasca to westerners, who might get high a few times, then go for a trip to the jungle, then head off to the next adventure. There were also two other seminars later in the summer that each attract over a hundred participants and fly in guest speakers from universities, etc. That didn’t appeal to me for an introduction to the medicine either.

I wanted to have my first experience with ayahuasca in something closer to its traditional and original setting, to maybe thereby be closer to the spirit of the medicine. I also wanted to learn about shamanism and Plant Spirit medicine from those who practice it, instead of being in a ceremony then just lying around the next day (which I did later, and was nice). And after reading everything I could find on the internet and from the library about ayahuasca and talking with someone who had spent time with Carlos, I decided that the Amazon Curandero Seminar was a good fit for me.

In the seminar we talked a lot about ayahuasca. But we spent as much time talking about other Plant Spirits, “la dieta”, how to proceed with “dieting” plants on our own in a western setting, whether it’s better to “diet” plants from the rainforest or from our own environment (the latter, which should have been obvious, I guess). Don Guillermo was asked about his views on the role of curanderismo in western culture. He said we’ve simply buried it and it’s there ready for us to revive it and bring it back to help heal our society (and that’s why we’re reading RealitySandwich, no?). He encouraged us to search closer to home rather than travel far to find it. He was asked why Plant Spirits would want to help humans as we’ve made such a mess of things. He replied that Plant Spirits want to help humans because they love us, and the more we screw up, the more we will be hearing from them as they offer their help.

We learned a bit about icaros, the role of the mapacho in healing, and were given a tour of the large herb garden that is part of the Allpahuayo Mishana Nature Reserve, where we stayed. That tour was led by another curandero, Don Lucho. And it was kind of funny, because we’d keep walking by plants with labels on them and he’d stop and tell us that this or that plant had been mislabeled or the healing properties on the label weren’t correct. He knows his stuff. Don Lucho, by the way, has a sweet permaculture-like garden developing at his compound: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=15494431

And he has an organization called Kapitari which is trying to encourage the use of native natural medicines in the countryside now that expensive western medicines have found their way into villages throughout the area.

With only 11 of us in the group, we had an extraordinary opportunity to converse with the five curanderos, with only a translator as intermediary. All of the classes were given by the curanderos.

The participants ranged from those with a lot of experience with ayahuasca and / or other psychedelics and those with none. One person had heard about ayahuasca a few weeks before the seminar and got right on board. Most of us were new to it and wanted to learn about and experience ayahuasca with those who use it in traditional ceremony where it originated. I think we were all called by the medicine.

The accommodations were rustic. No problem. The food was adequate in quantity and bland as it had to be for keeping on the diet. Carlos and Justin did not seem to need sleep and kept everything going along smoothly. This was their first seminar and it was well planned and full of wonderful experiences for participants (Carlos, now can I get a discount on next year’s seminar?). Truly. I feel privileged to have been to the first. It should grow and grow. Thanks to them and the curanderos Dona Othelia, Don Pedro, Don Lucho, Don Percy and Don Guillermo, and to the Boras, the staff, fellow participants and to Adam. (By the way, Don Guillermo, who attracts the most well-heeled visitors, is busy setting up an apprenticeship program where foreign apprentices’ tuition covers the costs of local apprentices, in order to pass on the Shipibo shamanic tradition within the culture.)

The ceremonies were at times terrifying, mellow, boring, funny, frustrating and exquisitely beautiful. Don Guillermo’s ceremony was powerful for me, even though the Spirit gave me only a little cup of the medicine that night. His was the only ceremony in the Shipibo language, with eeriest keening and singing I’ve ever heard. Amazing. My most powerful (and frightening) experience (ever!) was at Don Percy’s ceremony, during which I was told by Spirits to speak up (thus this post?) and experienced how flimsy our reality really is and how easily it can be manipulated.

Would I go again if I had the chance? You bet. But if there are recommendations on places to go that provide another facet to the experience that are closer to home, I’m all ears. I have only begun walking this path and am eager to learn more.

And if that program could be considered ayahuasca tourism, maybe we need more of it to get people who are called to start on the path.

PS. And finally (!) there apparently is brujeria in the Iquitos area and one of the curanderos at the program was identified as using both the good and dark sides of the tradition. The ceremony he held was not one I was at, but was described as being quite dark and many people walked out of it.

Thanks again Adam. It was wonderful meeting you at the seminar.

(for Chiri Sanango)

Hi Yarrow from Janet

Yarrow, I was at that ceremony where several people walked out of it (went outside or to the bungalow). I was one of them (all of my other ceremony experiences were so positive and incredible with the exception of this one).  The cuandero that did that ceremony was adept at both using the good and dark side of the brujerio/brujeria tradition.  As a female, I experienced (with this person's brew in vision state) demonic male spirits trying to take me over (so did other women who went to this ceremony who told me of their experiences).  I had the choice of saying no to these spirits (they were trying to entice me) or allowing them to enter my space.  I chose not to allow them to enter my space (they needed my permission in order to do so).  It was my right to say yes or no.  Still they kept requesting to enter my space for the duration of the ceremony but their requests waned as time passed.  I was successful in stopping them from entering my space simply with a no.  All have a choice and I discovered how powerful I was because of this session.  Were it not for this session I might not have learned that.  I am not sure if this is true or not, but I heard that this particular cuadero mixed some Toe in the brew. During any vision, you always have a choice to accept what comes at you or to say no.  This cuandero also revealed several incredible things to me while I was there that affected me in a positive way, even though his ceremony was not a positive one for me and I was hoping to go into any visions that came up for me.  Some said they did experience a good ceremony with him.  I noted that those that did and told me about it were all male! I did however enjoy his Icaros and found his voice beautiful (I love the sound of a deep male voice).  It was quite an experience all the way around.

Stateside regular ceremonies

Stateside regular ceremonies are becoming more common than we might imagine.

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feeling you adam...

Adam, I just wanted to say that I really felt your fear in your dialogue about Peru, and as you told your story, I understood too that it was your own mind's contrivance, your reasoning for disconnecting from spirit.. The medicine is just a facilitator, a doorway, but it's the level of healing and spiritual awakening that it's a doorway to. Yes, other psychedelics can open up towards similar doorways, but also in my experience, ayahuasca takes the most profound and direct path, and it seems to have permanent alterations in the energetic coding of the body & psyche, I have felt permanently healed in ways that acid and fungi never did for me. I've experienced deep states of opening with other psychedelics, but personally never received the deeper levels of cleansing and transformational healing on the most pure and fundamental level, as I have felt with aya. So, I hear you, and I don't want to necessarily put aya on a pedestal, but it also raised the bar and I lost my interest in other "medicines".

Flagging on RS

Actually CJ, a good portion of the flagging comes from spam that hits the site, so I wouldn't automatically assume that just because a comment was flagged, it meant there was a problem with the comment.  On the other hand, in response to the overwhelming requests from RS members, we no longer allow personal attacks on the site. This is a pretty standard guideline among web magazines and it helps to create a space where people feel safe and free to comment, which is especially important given the topics we discuss.

Thanks Jonathon!

I have always been pleased by your dilligence and restraint...this board is both the liveliest as well as most spam free I have ever encountered. We can not applaud your efforts enough!

thanks Wahkeena

 

Thanks for the nice comments, and it's great that you are so empathic!

To me, facing fear and my shadow is fundamental to my spiritual evolution. Ayahuasca has helped me find courage inside of myself time and time again. And each time, I emerge with a renewed sense of purpose and vision. The lessons I learn along the way are often sobering, humbling, and super brilliant. It's a complete honor to share them with everybody.

 And I agree, Ayahausca is a very special medicine. Hard to compare to my initial recreational and  explorational Clint Eastwood psychedelic trips (which were eye opening too!).

love & light,

Adam Elenbaas

Have you had the chance to

Have you had the chance to work with peyote in a traditional ceremony?  I must say, for me, peyote is an extremely powerful medicine, equal to ayahuasca -her compliment even. 

 

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Another great article, thank you

Thank you once again, your sincerity and ability to communicate your experiences is delightful, and what you write is full of meaning to me. Please go on with the good work.

- The flap of a butterfly's wings in the Atlantic may cause it to fly -

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Ayahuasca or other spiritual ceremonies for that matter- shouldn't be played off in a what sounds like a sketchy manner. its not crack- its not a secret, but i guess its pretty taboo and also natural. i think that the entire awareness should be used to open minds to what the universe is capable of. i dont know what it does- havent tried it yet, but i have an idea and i can assume its better than cigarettes- so the illegal part might be what gives it the edge of masked.

 

Bottom Line

 

There are far, far more destructive forces than people/foreigners going to the Amazon to drink ayahuasca.

Industries like, oil, gas, deforestation, soy, etc pose a far greater threat to shamanism, ayahuasca, las plantas, the forest, the entire planet! for gods sake, than does a projected, fear-based, fear-mongering, selfish notion that the ayahuasca medicine is for a select few and should remain hidden in order to protect some romanticized, nostalgic and often confused notion that "things were better way back when" or things would be better if only several people and a handful of shaman knew what's up.

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From Alan Shoemaker

http://www.roamingthemind.com/wordpress/?p=180#comment-45

there is no such thing as “ayahuasca tourism”. I’ve been here in Iquitos for 16 years now, married to a local with two children. The only “passengers” I have seen coming here, are here with serious intent. Tourists don’t participate, they watch. To have “ayahuasca tourism” it would require that there be bleachers put up outside a ceremonial maloca where the tourists could view a sacred ceremony. The passengers coming here are in the maloca, vomiting, defecating, traveling with the icaros, seeking their own personal spiritual, emotional and physical healings. Many have come because they felt called as the western ways are not answering the void in their souls. When I came here 16 years ago, the shamans complained to me that their own children and grandchildren no longer wanted to diet and learn the shamanistic ways. Since the arrival of the gringo and the way the gringo shows incredible respect to the grandfather shamans, the children have seen that and they have seen that the gringos pay the curanderos (shamans) for their services… they see their grandfathers now being able to pay for their school supplies (books, pencils and papers, etc.) and see how there is more food on the table and their homes are more comfortable… and so they now want to learn. It is because of the gringos coming that the children want to learn about the plants and how to heal with them.

things are worse here though...

Oppression should be fought here, not much has changed in the six years since...think globally, act locally...maybe spend the Jet fare money saved to help education directly instead of making a circus of sacrement. I think travel is great, but tourism of any kind is a make believe sendup of life as a masquerade., elitist mockery of direct experience. There is no vacation for the spirit...bottom line is that any argument beginning w/ "there are worse things than..." should receive an automatic failing grade in any ethics class worth it's salt, however balance is indeed the key and  a little back and forth exposure between more entrenched hoascan traditions and the directions we are setting here and now is most likely a good thing, but making South American Shamanland theme parks is something to be avoided as much as using them as Amsterdam for psychonauts. Gringo stay at home shamanism is out of the alpha stage now and ready to go to ramped up beta release...

RS Clearing House

Is it possible that Reality Sandwich could serve as a kind of clearing house for information on Ayahausca and similar tourism? Or, is there already something like that out there? I can goggle and find all sorts of sites relating to ayahausca, iboga, peyote, and shamanism offering a variety of experiences. But I have no way of evaluating either the authenticity or truthfulness of these sites. It would be great if people could report on their experiences and write reviews.

A good resource

Jim, you might find what your looking for at the ayahuasca.com forums. There you can ask questions, post experiences, discuss various aspects of shamanism, plants, ayahuasca and so forth. There's over 8000 registered users there and a good chunk of those people post regularly, offering all sorts of advice, opinion, first-hand experiences (with different curanderos, centers, places etc) review, questions, answers etc.

Thanks

This is useful and I definitely see some of what I was asking about at that site.

What I am envsioning is something broader than just ayahausca. What about iboga, peyote, and learning experiences non-drug related?

If there is anything more out there, I would interested in knowning about it.

 

Ayahuasca is just a part of Healing ceremony

Ayahuasca is a preparation of Amazonian plants used by ancient healers. For several hours induces powerful change in consciousness that allows the patient, as in a dream but awake, view picture (vision) and feel emotionally what is in the depths of his mind, his memory, his being. Certainly the ayahuasca plays a central role in the treatment but does not act alone. It requires a set of coordinated interventions to have a real impact, durable and is embedded in everyday life to change. The taking of ayahuasca alone without monitoring or psychological context of integration and containment (close accompaniment and control of effects) greatly reduces its effectiveness. The taking of ayahuasca and potent medicinal plants requires precise rules of diet, abstinence from rules of behavior, withdrawal from certain drugs and drug products, skin care “energetic” and so on., you can not improvise. In some instances, it can be dangerous, addictive repeating the search solution “magic” through the ingestion of a substance. You can also enable older or have psychological problems emerge unconscious emotional disturbance (psychopathology underlying) without external control dangerous. All these rules are very difficult to follow by simple self-control in an outpatient setting (outside the school), more so in an addicted person who just lacks discipline. It is necessary for an effective take ayahuasca have a quality-controlled product, a physical and psychological preparation, an appropriate ritual context, an experienced guide and further follow-up (especially for the interpretation and integration of lived experience at the meeting). Generally Amazonian healers, even when they have a high level of expertise, can not offer guarantees of a psychotherapeutic accompaniment adapted to the Western mind, and a containment context and infrastructure and integration of experiences. Takiwasi born of this recognition of the need for a close and appropriate accompaniment for taking ayahuasca. It is also necessary to note that the neo-shamanic fashion today, there are many dubious deals making ayahuasca, Healers improvised, prepared with association of toxic plants (eg Datura), abusers economic or sexual purposes: all this requires great caution .(Takiwasi Center) My first contact with the Holy plants, was for 40 years ago.(I´m from South America,living in Norway.) http://www.youtube.com/foxterry#p/u/1/EftvfteSWtM Thanks.

Medicine

Hi Adam, As always, I enjoy your posts on your journey(s) with Ayahuasca. I also appreciate where you've come from and the direction you seem to be headed. Having participated in 24 ceremonies myself, I would just like to make the suggestion that Ayahuasca is *indeed* Medicine, regardless of how she works on us from time to time. To quote everyone's favorite flying nanny: "A spoonful of sugar makes the medicine go down." Inherent in the word "medicine" is "healing"...from your experiences you would appear to know as well as anyone that we often need to go back through the underbrush to get to the clearing; such is the case with any true medicine, IMHO. That said, I look forward to more writing from you on the subject. The lesson you gleaned from this experience is a very humbling one; one I've encoutered myself: everyone is a sovereign being and has their own path to make through that underbrush, into the clearing..our personal judgements serve no one, least of all ourselves. Namaste.

I was there too!

Hi Adam,I was at Carlo's first Cuadero Seminar in Iquitos along with you. I don't know if you remember me or not (Janet). I had previously suffered from a broken ankle 18 months before my trip to the jungle so I didn't go to Don Guiermo's place but chose instead to stay at the reserve and do a ceremony there. I had wondered if I would experience anything like some others said they did. If nothing else, I was there to meet up with my Peruvian god-daughter from Arequipa. I remember the last minute commotion down there, complete with caymen popping out of the pond eating a little stray dog that followed everyone around, and scheduling issues. Despite all of this, I had the most amazing experiences of my life there. I got my soul back. I had suffered from depression for almost a year and was desperate at that time to find a solution. What I got was myself back (and then some). My experiences with the ayahuasca and my own connection to everything has affected my life dramatically - no more depression, more confidence in who I am and less fear of the unknown. I had 3 Ayahuasca sessions but the 2nd one was the one that really healed me (with D. Othelia). The healing still affects me to this day. Justin and Carlos really watched out for me down there. I had gotten ill in the jungle and was really quite sick. The shamans were incredibly generous with their time and experience and did everything they could to help me. I really can't thank them enough for changing my life around so profoundly. All the shamans and folks down there are people too - imperfect yet perfect, and incredible in their own right. We all are incredible. We just don't know it and that is one thing that I learned down there. Our Western society is way too critical of our "imperfections". I no longer feel that I have to do A, B, or C to fit in with the social "norms" because I am normal just the way I am.I am glad you also got to experience the true nature of who you are. So powerful isn't it? Yet so few still get this experience.I am a completely different person than I was when I went down there (for the better). I can't thank everyone enough down there for my transformation - including myself and the divine for getting my butt down there at just the right time. I'll never forget my time there.I remember also talked with that NY psychiatrist. He had experienced many global awakenings also via Ibugain and Peyote. He was on a mission to help his patients and wanted to know how Ibugain, Peyote, and Ayahusaca could help them potentially by experimenting with himself first. What an incredible guy he was. I met so many incredible people down there. Still have my CDs of Icaros from that time. Good to hear from you via your writing :) Blessings my friend :)

Ayahuasca

I wish to thank "Madresita" Mothervine of the soul for showing me the illuminated being - again. Magna Mater, gracias. T.

I first heard about

I first heard about Ayahuasca in one of my trips in Australia. They were organizing some sessions and discussions about Ayahuasca in some of the Melbourne hotels. Was really nice.

Tourism is travel for

Tourism is travel for recreational, leisure or business purposes. The World Tourism Organization defines tourists as people who "travel to and stay in places outside their usual environment for more than twenty-four hours and not more than one consecutive year for leisure, business and other purposes not related to the exercise of an activity remunerated from within the place visited.Orange County Web DevelopmentIt was amazing.Your thought process is wonderful.The way you tell about things is awesome. i always wait for your posts. They are inspiring and helpful.

wonderful story

I really enjoyed reading this. I have recently begun my own journey with plant medicine. Last December was my first time with the medicine and I have another 4 day ceremony coming up next month before I travel to Peru for 15 days to explore further. If anyone is interested in reading the story of my first experience, here you go: http://infinitetangents.wordpress.com/