Who's Afraid of 9/11 Truth?

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ABC Nightline News sent Chris Bury to the 'Treason in America' conference in Philadelphia on March 6th in hopes of linking the recent Pentagon shooting to the 9/11 Truth movement.  Former FBI Special Agent Coleen Rowbury, who was presenting on the consequences of the lack of 9/11 truth, was barraged by Nightline News in their attempt to connect the quest for truth to the violence.  Next on ABC's hitlist were the creators of the documentary 'Loose Change 9/11: An American Coup', Dylan Avery and Korey Rowe, who held their own while the media giant angled for sound bites. 

Even on the internet it seems that asking questions about what really happened on that fateful day is something to be condemned and banned.  The Huffington Post made this obvious when they pulled Jesse Ventura's editorial questioning our government's role in 9/11.  Russia Today's coverage of the censorship is at least one piece of journalism brave enough to hold space for challenging a spoon-fed reality.

 

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9/11 Truth is an embarrassing oxymoron.

Spoon-fed reality? Please. Just because a news source is "alternative" doesn't mean it's right. Try this site for some solid information - http://www.debunking911.com/

RE: 9/11 Truth is an embarrasing oxymoron

 So you are aware then of the conclusive evidence put forth by over 1,000

Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth of Nano Thermite in the dust of WTC 1, 2, and 7?  Have you seen building 7 collapse?  Isn't it odd that a steel framed structure which happened to conveniently house the, CIA, FBI, Emergency bunker for Mayor Giuliani (Recently upgraded at that) and thousands of records into the book cooking misdeeds of Enron and Worldcom would fall so neatly so quickly without being struck by a plane?


How about the molten steel present for over 3 weeks in the basements of all three buildings destoyed that day?  It is impossible for Jet fuel to create molten steel let alone to keep temperatures that hot for that long.


Please look a bit deeper and hear both sides. 


Best wishes

 

-Now

 

 

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EVERYONE KNOWS BUSH HAD PRIOR KNOWLEDGE

anyone who thinks bush didn't have prior knowledge of 9/11 is not looking at the most basic of facts. THEIR IS NO CONSPIRACY THEORY WHEN IT COMES TO THAT!!! Bush knew it was coming, Cheney knew it was coming.

WHO PAID FOR 9/11?????? theres no conspiracy if we give them the money and turn our backs cause the "bad guys" (random angry muslims) can handle the rest... no demolition required just money and dumbasses to carry it out. get outta here and go vote for obama ya sheep.

sorry i just get a little angry we still have to debate this 

The Truth?

I don't really understand the debate on this topic. Obviously nobody knows the depths of this shit. It isn't "easy" to see that this was an inside job or that it wasn't, yet like always there's a bunch of egos trying to tell you whats up. If we can't figure out what Truth itself is, how could we figure out 9/11 truth? The truth is there is no truth, no "official version", and no "conspiracy theory", so get over yourselves in the truest sense of the words. What must be respected however is the fact that there isn't a truth, despite what the leviathan says, let's open our minds shall we?

RE: The Truth? by reeceh7

I would take the time to become informed.

Please watch Blueprint for Truth and then reconsider the opportunity available to right a horrendous crime by pursuing actual justice for all those permanently maimed by the events of that day.  Think about the 1million plus Iraqi citizens killed with this event as the righteous precedence.

The "Truth" can be determined in many ways via the method of Science, Intuition, Honesty with one's self etc.
Because we do not understand everything does not mean that nothing can be understood. 

 Red pill Blue pill I leave it up to you.

 

 

Thanks tips!

You would take the time to become informed would you? I don't understand what you're saying? What is it that You know that I need to be informed about exactly? What are you getting from your life that I need from mine? Your comments here are actually a prime example of the nonsense I'm hinting at. Its a formulaic way of trying to make someone feel insufficient or wrong in their knowledge, then you tell me  to take the red pill or the blue pill, as if I had a choice, let me guess, the blue pill is your version and the red is mine? lol... nice!

 My interest in 9/11 truth has nothing to do with making someone accountable for this event, as I know that's not possible, my interest would be in healing. Healing our views, healing our societies, healing ourselves not through "pursuing actual justice"(what does that look like anyway?), but through facilitating each other as we are, consolidating our views and seeing the dhamma in between red vs. blue pills. Seeing the way we create conflict with each other rather than finger pointing. What I was saying with my first post is that when someone, like yourself, starts telling me that I "don't know", you are creating a very complicated problem in the scenario that the person you're talking to doesn't want to step into your shoes. You create karma that way. Stop looking for and speaking of the "Right Way" just so you can hold someone accountable. This is what it means to do something selfishly, sacrifice your actions for truth, not for the justification of your own truth. "Pursue the light, and you lose its source"          

jbla, when discussing issues

jbla, when discussing issues surrounding what really happened on that day, I would suggest providing a link to an organization that is more reputable. For instance try http://www.ae911truth.org A book I'd recommend is called "Debunking 9/11 Debunking" by Dr. David Ray Griffin. So please update your information. Many facts have been uncovered over the last several years. Deriding this movement as simply a movement of "conspiracy theorists" is highly innaccurate and ineffective as you will discover upon checking out the link I listed above. Over 1 thousand architechs and engineers are calling for a new investigation into 9/11, as well as people from all walks of life, including 9/11 victim's family members. A bit of research truly does go a long way.

 reeceh7, your attitude is very fluffy and all, but many of the victim's family members *need to know* what really happened on 9/11 for them to find closure to their lives. I imagine you were not personally affected on 9/11. Otherwise you would want to see JUSTICE done also. Those with wicked intent who act on it need to be brought to justice. Little something called accountability and taking responsiblity for one's actions.

Not the "wicked" again

Someone's "need to know" is not exempt from what I'm saying. You're taking my words out of my context and putting them in yours. Obviously this is what happens when humans communicate, but if a victim of 9/11 has to know the details of the event then that is their perogative, and i'm happy to help as much as I can, what this doesn't mean is that the way they see the events is objectively "right", take a philosophy course if you think its that easy. I'm not against this movement, I'm saying that the point should not be to put heads on sticks, but to create an atmosphere of health and openness in which society can come to terms with itself. Those with "wicked" intent, i'm sorry to tell you, but they don't exist. Read "Eichmann in Jerusalem", there is no wickedness at play here, only ourselves, only our differing and deluded perspectives. I guess what I'm saying is that we look for the truth for ourselves until we find it, or think we do. We have no idea what we were looking for until we find what it was, which means that only we knew what we were looking for, otherwise we wouldn't have been looking, and we could never find it. I'm not taking a side, I'm saying there are no sides. I can't make life right for 9/11 victims or the perpetrators, I can help all I want and I try, but in the end I don't know what they're looking for, only "they" can find what "they" are looking for. We need to redefine "justice" in this context, because it sounds like you want to create a new paradigm of acceptance and truth, yet to those that do not accept what you define as "acceptance", you deliver them the same justice as the old corrupt system? this is obviously contradictory so what is the Justice of which you speak?

The Truth Will Prevail!

Thank you Marisa for writing this! Evolver and Reality Sandwich Community Please step up and spread the word! We have a golden opportunity to pressure our representatives and media to deal with the reality of this situation. Love and Light -Now PS> Please Inform Yourself by watching Blueprint for Truth http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8182697765360042032&ei=CtmiS_XL...

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Open your eyes

This documentary is a must watch: The New American Century http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3776750618788792499&hl=en#docid... Also, read up on Cass Sunstein: http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/01/15/sunstein And John McCain's contribution to the dismantling of our Constitution: S.3081 - Enemy Belligerent, Interrogation, Detention, and Prosecution Act of 2010 http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-s3081/show

Cointelpro revamped for the 9/11 Truth Movement

Obama staffer wants ‘cognitive infiltration’ of 9/11 conspiracy groups
http://rawstory.com/2010/01/obama-staffer-infiltration-911-groups/

Conspiracy Theories by Cass R. Sustein and Adrian Vermeule

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1084585

Abstract:
"Many millions of people hold conspiracy theories; they believe that powerful people have worked together in order to withhold the truth about some important practice or some terrible event. A recent example is the belief, widespread in some parts of the world, that the attacks of 9/11 were carried out not by Al Qaeda, but by Israel or the United States. Those who subscribe to conspiracy theories may create serious risks, including risks of violence, and the existence of such theories raises significant challenges for policy and law. The first challenge is to understand the mechanisms by which conspiracy theories prosper; the second challenge is to understand how such theories might be undermined. Such theories typically spread as a result of identifiable cognitive blunders, operating in conjunction with informational and reputational influences. A distinctive feature of conspiracy theories is their self-sealing quality. Conspiracy theorists are not likely to be persuaded by an attempt to dispel their theories; they may even characterize that very attempt as further proof of the conspiracy. Because those who hold conspiracy theories typically suffer from a crippled epistemology, in accordance with which it is rational to hold such theories, the best response consists in cognitive infiltration of extremist groups. Various policy dilemmas, such as the question whether it is better for government to rebut conspiracy theories or to ignore them, are explored in this light."

The VerSus project is well underway.

"identifiable cognitive

"identifiable cognitive blunders" 

LOL 

Hm

"Those who subscribe to conspiracy theories may create serious risks, including risks of violence, and the existence of such theories raises significant challenges for policy and law."

Isn't it a little late for the risk of violence? Hasn't anyone stopped to take a look around at where the leaders of the great nations have led their people?

We've been led to domains of terrorism, fanaticism, racism, suffering, poisoning, and environmental exploitation and destruction. It has been a psychological journey to places that are not fit for anyone's well being. Why keep following? Why keep allowing others to think and decide for you?

Does that make me a terrorist to suggest such things?  To suggest that "leader" may just be a word that is being used by some for their own ends?  To suggest that acts speak the truth more loudly than words?  To suggest that for all of the problems facing the world, or in this case, the country that thinks it is the center of the world, are actually the responsibility of everyone involved?  How can anyone cry "victim" when almost everyone has to knowingly make excuses at some point to keep on doing what they're doing in their lives?

Look at the situation again - we were led to the conditions where terrorism became part of reality. I know it matters to a lot of people "whodunnit", but I think that in this desolate landscape of consciousness that everyone has blindly followed or allowed themselves to be pushed into, it matters more to recognize that we don't belong here. These systems, these processes, these institutions that are currently accepted - even unwillingly - are part of the landscape of a terrorized, debilitated, disempowered world.

Quite a pickle we're in, hm?

I don't think you understood

I don't think you understood my comment.  See the first link.

Members of the Obama administration have said they specifically wish to undermine the efforts of 9/11 Truth organizations, and they plan on doing just that.  The second link is the Harvard paper supporting the idea.

It seems plausible that this is already underway, and if so it could be called the VerSus project (based on the paper's authors' names), a mirror of Cointelpro back in the day.

But you don't have to take my word for it. Do the research yourself, and check out the links in my first post here.

Mirror

Hey Ora, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all.  I was just expanding on that sentence from the abstract and working within the context of the situation as a whole, but from a different perspective is all.

So what?

I don't believe the government's official story. But I also don't believe the conspiracy theories about 9/11 despite all the things that don't add up.

I think pursuing this issue is fruitless. What do truthers hope to achieve?

I think there are more productive things to do with our time then try and figure out what happened on 9/11. If they did not tell you the truth before, what makes the truthers think they will get it now ?

Grigori-

"I don't believe the government's official story. But I also don't believe the conspiracy theories about 9/11 despite all the things that don't add up."

Not sure if I've ever seen a better example.......... 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink 

 George Orwell told us of the coming Global Police State in his novel, 1984.  He forgot to mention that we'd be the ones paying for it!! 

 "I think pursuing this issue is fruitless. What do truthers hope to achieve?"

TRUTH & JUSTICE!!!  LIBERTY & JUSTICE for ALL!!!! 

 

" I think there are more productive things to do with our time then try and figure out what happened on 9/11."

Grigori-  If 9/11 doesn't matter, what does?  If we do not hold these evil criminals accountable, there will certainly be a far worse attack soon.  We've got to face the beast eventually!!

 

" If they did not tell you the truth before, what makes the truthers think they will get it now ?." 

 We demand an open and transparent criminal investigation!!

 

Please don't be turned off by the headline, and actually read to hear why I feel this way. The fact that I was joined the Army right after 9/11 to fight our perceived common enemy, should alone give you pause for concern.  Why would a young man who volunteered to risk his life for this nation, why would he say such a thing?  Here is my explanation!

http://blandyland.com/?p=551

Daniel Edd Bland III

www.BlandyLand.com 


Non Sequiter

You managed to respond without answering any of my questions concretely. Instead you produced a bunch of non sequiters.

 

 

if you really want to know

take the time, go to metahistory.org check out '2010 year of sudden reckoning'.... as robert anton wilson has said...' tis an ill wind that blows no minds'.....

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Sorry, here is the link to the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjGJql_3UZI

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"I think there are more

"I think there are more productive things to do with our time then try and figure out what happened on 9/11. If they did not tell you the truth before, what makes the truthers think they will get it now?" This is truly a sad way to look at this situation, it really is. This mentality has been the downfall of the current anti-war "movement". The fact that we now live in what has been dubbed "the post 9/11 world" is reason enough to find out what really happened on that day. There are 2 wars being waged now that are the result of 9/11. The family members of the victims want to know what happened on 9/11. Isn't THAT enough to convince you? I suppose not. But the reality is that the 9/11 truth movement has grown too large to be contained by any "versus" counter intelligence movement. What is being attempted by the truth community is to get a new independent investigation into what happnened on 9/11, preferably an international one that is not headed, organized, or coordinated by politicians or other "insiders". This issue ain't going away anytime soon if you couldn't already tell.

RE: I think there are more

Thank you Conscious Observer. I could not have said it better myself. Peace

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Isn't it obvious?

Even on the internet it seems that asking questions about what really happened on that fateful day is something to be condemned and banned.

Of course, Marisa.

Because the people who are into it get really ultra-passionate and "ZOMG, we've got to tell everybody!", and the people who aren't into it at all say, "Oh God, not another wave of these people again..."

Many of us are so fed up with trufers, that we just go, "That's not what this is about. You people are out."

At which point:  "Help, help!  I'm being oppressed!"

And then:

...then there's all the name-calling, and the "Well, you're just a tool, you're really uneducated," and so on, and so forth.

Generall, the given 9/11-truther is someone you like and appreciate and care for, which makes it all so much worse.  These are all human beings and there are all these personalities.

"Why are you siding with the government?" and so on.  Then it becomes this sick litmus test of how "real" or "on the low-down" you are.

"Why don't you just capitulate?  Are you a moron?  Why can't you think for yourself, and just agree with me?"

The old saw "I'm just asking a question," is way overused.  A question is a directive (a command:  "Tell me the response to ___") and causes a flow in conversation.  That is after all the purpose:  To move conversation to a place.  If people are clear enough that they don't want to go to that place, then, of course, the question is unwelcome, and to ask the question an intentional and understood breach of etiquette.  Each community has it's own shades of white, grey, and black, over what is acceptable and what is not.

Fine.  Just don't let me

Fine. 

Just don't let me ever hear you complain about the war. 

 

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hypothetically

IF certain elements of our gov't/military/intelligence were somehow involved in 9/11, wouldn't you want transparency and justice regarding this? there is SO much damning evidence to the 'inside job' theory, and such a growing movement demanding a new investigation, yet so many people don't even want to look. i mean, it's not historically unprededented. false flag attacks have happened many times as a precept to war, and in the U.S. as well. why is it so hard or taboo to openly discuss the possibility when there is clearly a case for it due to hard evidence (not to mention mountains of suspicious, circumstantial evidence)? "lalalalalalalala i can't hear you!" does NOT negate the facts.

Oh, we hear you just fine.

We're just tired of telling you that we don't believe you.

That we do not find your case compelling.

We're also tired of endlessly debunking;  It's like arguing with moon-landing deniers, or passionately evangelical Christians.  What can one do?

"La la la I can't hear you" doesn't make a case, but shouting and amping it up doesn't work to manufacture facts, either.

The public is just exhausted.

????????

So why don't you tell us what all of those idiotic engineers and architects are talking about... Oh I forgot, you're exhausted and that means you don't have to address the facts and the physics that they've presented. Very convenient Mr. Lion... too tired to respond to the FACTS.

OK, which of the FACTS that

OK, which of the FACTS that you want a response to is not covered here

- http://www.ae911truth.info/tiki-index.php  ?

That site is a specific response to Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, but if you find an issue that hasn't been addressed, I'm sure we can help.

 Or you can check here for more - http://www.debunking911.com/ .

Save the kool-aid for the summer parties.

Just because someone's an architect or an engineer doesn't mean they're a structural engineer or a forensic engineer.

 If ae911 had anything worthwhile, they could publish it in a peer-reviewed journal, instead of pandering to the woo woo crowd and selling t-shirts.

 

 

 

 

Dear Monte

Dear Monte.


So you would be overjoyed to know that your fellow Architects and Engineers have actually done the research and decided based on the scientific evidence that we need a new investigation.

 And what type of Engineer are you exactly?  Structural? Computer? Architectual?

What Fault exactly do you find with their presentation?

Please use your training as an engineer to formulate your argument.

 

Thank you

 

-Now

ae911truth.org > you can find the film "blueprint for truth" there as well or by searching on videos.google.com or youtube

 

Dear JBLA

So you are aware that they do in fact have numerous Structural Engineers cited in their technical reports?  You cand find them here http://www.ae911truth.org/techarts.php

 

And if you would like to provide a counter argument refuting their data please feel free to do so in this forum.  Otherwise it is clear you don't want to deal with the evidence or what is being said and are merely obstructing justice.

 Here is another opportunity for you to view the many Architects, Doctors, Theolgians, Engineers, Firemen, Policemen, Scholars, etc. ad infinitum.

That are using their gifts to correct this crime against humanity

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbY5_qtz83M

 

-Now

 

 

Who *isn't* aware of your 1,000?

Let me flip the question around:

Who isn't aware that y'all have a list of 1,000 people?

Anybody?  Anybody?

Anybody that the bullhorn has not reached?

Counterarguments here -

The peer reviewed journal

is here:

 The Open Chemical Physics Journal, 2009, 2, 7-31

Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe

Niels H. Harrit*,1, Jeffrey Farrer2, Steven E. Jones*,3, Kevin R. Ryan4, Frank M. Legge5, Daniel Farnsworth2, Gregg Roberts6, James R. Gourley7 and Bradley R. Larsen3

1Department of Chemistry, University of Copenhagen, Denmark 2Department of Physics and Astronomy, Brigham Young University, Provo, UT 84602, USA 3S&J Scientific Co., Provo, UT, 84606, USA 49/11 Working Group of Bloomington, Bloomington, IN 47401, USA 5Logical Systems Consulting, Perth, Western Australia 6Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, Berkeley, CA 94704, USA 7International Center for 9/11 Studies, Dallas, TX 75231, USA

Abstract: We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World Trade Center. Examination of four of these samples, collected from separate sites, is reported in this paper. These red/gray chips show marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later. The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC). The red material contains grains approxi- mately 100 nm across which are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures. Separation of components using methyl ethyl ketone demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms oc- curring at approximately 430  ̊C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips. The red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic.

Keywords: Scanning electron microscopy, X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy, Differential scanning calorimetry, DSC analysis, World Trade Center, WTC dust, 9/11, Iron-rich microspheres, Thermite, Super-thermite, Energetic nanocomposites, Nano-thermite.

 INTRODUCTION

The destruction of three skyscrapers (WTC 1, 2 and 7) on September 11, 2001 was an immensely tragic catastrophe that not only impacted thousands of people and families di- rectly, due to injury and loss of life, but also provided the motivation for numerous expensive and radical changes in domestic and foreign policy. For these and other reasons, knowing what really happened that fateful day is of grave importance.

A great deal of effort has been put forth by various gov- ernment-sponsored and -funded investigations, which led, in large part, to the reports released by FEMA [1] and NIST [2]. Other studies of the destruction have been less well

*Address correspondence to these authors (NH) Department of Chemistry, University of Copenhagen, Copenhagen, DK-2100, Denmark; Tel: (+45)35321846; Fax: (+45)35320460; E-mail: harrit@nano.ku.dk, (SEJ) at S&J Scientific Co., Provo, UT, 84606, USA; Tel: 801-735-5885; E-mail: Hardevidence@gmail.com

publicized but are no less important to the outstanding obliga- tion that remains to the victims of that tragedy, to determine the whole truth of the events of that day [3-10]. A number of these studies have appropriately focused attention on the re- maining physical material, and on available photographs and video footage, as sources of evidence still in public hands, relating to the method of destruction of the three skyscrapers.

The collapses of the three tallest WTC buildings were remarkable for their completeness, their near free-fall speed [11] their striking radial symmetry [1, 12] and the surpris- ingly large volume of fine toxic dust [13] that was generated. In order to better understand these features of the destruc- tion, the authors initiated an examination of this dust. In June 2007, Dr. Steven Jones observed distinctive bi-layered chips, with both a red and a gray layer, in a sample of the WTC dust. Initially, it was suspected these might be dried paint chips, but after closer inspection and testing, it was shown that this was not the case.... 

 

 " If ae911 had anything

 " If ae911 had anything worthwhile, they could publish it in a peer-reviewed journal, instead of pandering to the woo woo crowd"

 You DO realize you posted that comment on Reality Sandwich, right?

 

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re: Oh, we hear you just fine.

regarding the upholders of the "official story"... 

 We're just tired of telling you that we don't believe you.

 yes, we are.

That we do not find your case compelling.

no, we don't.  in fact we find it ludicrous and insulting to our intelligence.

We're also tired of endlessly debunking;  It's like arguing with moon-landing deniers, or passionately evangelical Christians.  What can one do?

yes, it is quite like this.  good observation.

"La la la I can't hear you" doesn't make a case, but shouting and amping it up doesn't work to manufacture facts, either.

 

nor does ignoring mountains of evidence disprove/debunk the fact that it exists.

 

The public is just exhausted.

 oh god, yes we are.  but we won't give up. 

Wake Up Time

Thank you Jellyfish.

 

"First let the technical truths emerge, then if necessary

cope with the inevitable conspiracy and other questions"

-Richard Gage founder of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isTGuaaln9A

 

None are so blind as those who will not see.

 

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-Now

The Public is Exhausted?

 So how exactly do you know what the "public" feels?  Do you poll often?

Well the New York Times/ CBS do and when actually asking the public what they thought about 9/11... Well let's just say the results speak for themself.

According to the new New York Times/CBS News poll, only 16% of Americans think the government is telling the truth about 9/11 and the intelligence prior to the attacks: 

 

Here is a link to the article.  http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/October2006/141006poll.htm

Yes it is on prison planet.  Yes it is a valid source of information.  If you don't think so you may want to read or watch the film version of "Manufacturing Consent" by Professor Noam Chomsky.  If you still think corporate media is incapable of lying then there is nothing I can do for you.

 Red pill blue pill it's your choice, but please don't think you are fooling anyone with your tactics.  It is obvious you are willfully ignorant of the facts.

 

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"An Elephant Never Forgets...."

Dear Monte

"I seriously worry that the fixation Evolver/RS peeps seem to have with 12/21/2012 and 9/11 conspiracy theories will ultimately be what screws up this social movement." So describe for me your vision of this unraveling the Evolver Social Movement? What exactly are you afraid of? You may find yourself more optimistic if you would research Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth as well as the film "Blueprint for Truth". We have over 1,000 plus Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. Pilots for 9/11 Truth Scholars for 9/11 Truth First Responders for 9/11 Truth Firefighters for 9/11 Truth The Global We Are Change Movement as well as Hundreds of millions of people inside and outside of America who have questioned the "Official" conspiracy theory that the government proffers as sacrosanct truth. If you would take the time to watch Blueprint for Truth please,You can determine for yourself whether or not it's not a moral imperative that we address this crime of the century. Even if you don't believe the gov't had a hand in this you must admit we need a new investigation based on the numerous scientific anomalies which completely rebuke the explanation offered by the 9/11 commission. Concerned theologian David Ray Griffin aptly described the cOMISSION report as " A 571 page lie" Please look back into this material with fresh eyes and discuss this amongst your peers. This is a moment of opportunity for all of mankind to admit we have a problem and commence to the real work to fix it. I also believe that is the intention behind RealitySandwich and the Evolver Social Movement. "Because we are the ones we've been waiting for. Because it's our world to change." If 9/11 doesn't matter what does? I look forward to your response. Thank you -Now PS> Let me know what you think after watching Blueprint for Truth.

lionkimbro you should be in

lionkimbro you should be in the mental asylum, i did not actualy disrespect you until now (as your unusual style does not bother me) but here your engagement is so counterproductive and condescending regarding a very serious matter that it's plain ridiculous. Others like Ora, Grigori or reeceh7 are great examples of the good old police mentality still prevailing in the community and clearly RS isn't immune to them either. It is Sad but not surprising to see how childish some people still are about this issue which has so much more serious perspective abroud. You hardly find a soul in France who believes the official story.

The problem with those who

The problem with those who cling to the official story is that they are functioning through their emotional mind rather than with their logical mind (cointelpro not included as they are working from an agenda). Therefore they (the "sheep") shut off and make rationalisations to avoid an actual discussion of the relevant facts. Hence, the "lalalala syndrome". I believe the term for those who live this way is 'cognitive dissonance' where their entire psychological makeup is structured in such a way that it doesn't allow for any uncomfortable information to penetrate, for fear that it could disassemble what they've held to for potentially all their lives (in this case, "our government is our parental figure and couldn't/wouldn't have the moral capability to harm its own people"). In a way it's understandable. Yet it's a monumental hurdle to get over as we've seen with minds such as Monte's. Thankfully, this movement has a unique resilience behind it. Truth, that is.

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I dig your piece! Please continue. If you are intersted in contributing a piece to the pink elephant collective please email me at pinkelephantcollective@gmail.com Also check out the site cargocollective.com/pinkelephantcollective.com Best wishes -Now

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      Here’s the view from beyond the fray: Political movements from all around the world have become polarized. People all over the world are split regarding most issues almost 50 –50. Each side presents its arguments, which sound unbelievable to the other. One side of the polarity is forward-looking while the other is comfortable with the past; one side stands for change while the other side prefers the status quo. One side sees "the light at the end of the tunnel” and is willing to undergo the pain of childbirth to enter the light of the future while the other is content to remain in the womb. One side senses the danger in remaining in the womb, because labor has begun in earnest, while the other does not. One side has confidence in the natural evolution of this stage in the birthing process of Homo Sapiens Sapiens while the other does not. One side is not afraid while the other side is.

      There are only two basic human emotions: Love and fear. All others are derivatives of these. For instance, jealousy is derived from fear, and faith is derived from love.

      What we are all witnessing today is nothing less than the birth of humanity to Homo Universalis. You have a choice to witness this birth from inside the womb as are all of you debating the 9/11 issue here, and the choice to witness this pregnancy and birth from outside the womb, as I am trying to encourage you to do in this comment.

      What we are witnessing is called the archetypal struggle between good and evil. If Good = Love, and Evil = Fear, then this is the struggle between Love and Fear. This is the mother of all battles!

      If Fear wins big we go extinct.If Love wins big we evolve. If the polarity remains split 50 – 50 those who are afraid will die, and those who love will live. It's just that simple.

      The question is not, which of the polarized twins am I in this womb? The question is am I afraid? or am I in Love?

     Even if your motive is Love, but you keep viewing this issue from inside the womb, you are at risk of denying the Love begging to enter fully into your life. Such risk could be fatal.

 

Evolve

I think unfortunately people have become numb to the situation at hand. they can ignore what is going on. Turn off their televisions and sit on the desk of the titanic saying " the light in my room has gone out i don't have time to worry about all those people below me in steerage." and meanwhile the ship is going down.If we consider for a moment that perhaps the government was either responsible, negligent or even unresponsive to these events, then how expendable are people to its legislation? We can say why should we care until its our home town, our children's folded flag in our hands or our house or job lost because we're spending so much money on a war whose basis we can't even verify. Oh the buildings fell - sure. I saw them fall with my own two eyes. The one thing i thought was " why didn't the airforce step in? why were they told to stand down? I know this because I know people who were in the military and lost clearance when they asked those questions. My family - not hearsay.Say it wasn't the government. Why would they deny what we saw? That fire was burning for 3 months. people are STILL sick from that debris. Govenor Pataki even mentioned it. What makes Steel burn for 3 months? not Jet Fuel. If they weren't responsible then they have neglected a crime scene. And are fighting 2 wars based on haphazardly complied evidence. Anyone ever notice Bin Ladin isn't even the target anymore? What are we going after? what are people Dying for right now? If you can't get into the 9/11 questions start asking why we're being bled dry then work backwards. You'll find 9/11 sitting there like a ... well like a pink elephant. Most People prefer blindness. But most people are a dying race...i hope we will wake up together.

EVOLVE

 I couldn't have said it better myself.
EVOLVE Indeed

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pinkganish and leonnigth

 Nice job guys, encouraging and soulful. I agree with both of you. Realise, reject and release that fear or as Leonnigth said we all die coward. Stay clear of violence but DO fight with everthing you got. It is not a matter of anger it is self-preservation and responsibility for us all. Hold your spirit high and keep that fire burning!

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( oops meant DECK of the titanic ) ->__< ~typo queen~Yes! @ the hungarian heart. You're easier heard when you stand rather than stampede!Most People prefer blindness. But most people are a dying race...i hope we will wake up together.