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Inside Tryptamine Palace

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In a recent High Times interview with author James Oroc the discussion centers around the psychedelic experience, God consciousness and the zero-point field. Oroc details his personal experiences with DMT and 5-meO-DMT, in which he describes, "a bright light, everything is dissolved into fractals of light, I feel the presence of people I really love around me, the possibility or question hanging right in front of you, and if you can actually let go of your own ego, you can access this sort of transcendental zone where you actually can experience being consciousness without identity." Oroc himself was an athiest before his experiments with these particular entheogens.

The experiences and intensity are well documented in his book Tryptamine Palace (click here for an excerpt that appeared on Reality Sandwich). Further, they have energized his life, bringing a sense of personal responsibility. Says Oroc:

"I found, with my own spiritual epiphany, that I cared to do something about it. I think one sign of a true spiritual epiphany is that you take on a sense of responsibility, I think it’s how Jung said 'enlightened consciousness is like a burden of guilt,' and once I believed I had a real spiritual epiphany, one of the reliefs was a sense of responsibility and a feeling that I had to try and do something. Whatever it was I could do, I had to try to do something, and that’s what this book has been about, this year of promoting the book, getting out and talking to people…. Yeah, I think we have been conned, because spirituality is a very personal thing and we’ve bought into a society that is telling us that spirituality is a superstition or a myth, things that educated people don’t believe in, and I think there’s a lot of evidence to the contrary, and that getting back in deeper touch with our spirituality would definitely help clean up the planet."

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"...if you can actually let

"...if you can actually let go of your own ego, you can access this sort of transcendental zone where you actually can experience being consciousness without identity."tell me, if you do not retain your identity, what good is it to experience God-consciousness? is it simply to acertain its existance? ego is a legitimate dimension of consciousness, necessary for action. hyperpersonal.

It's Identity that shifts

It is not that identity disappears completely (that only happens every night in deep sleep) but that

but identity does shift from the egoic, time-bound story of me, to the limitless, timeless present moment. And it is always paradoxical. It is never something you do, nor does ithappen to you as an experience. The very center of experience shifts to where the "center is everywhere and the circumference nowhere."

sorry for the typos technical difficulties....

An earthly explanation...

The Ego is an enourmously ambiguous and maleable concept, just as its transcendence is. I certainly agree that the ego, in any sense of the word, is a legitimate dimension of consciousness, and utterly necesary for our survival on earth, but that doesn't mean that there aren't other dimensions of consciousness that are equally if not more important, and that can only be reached by escaping the dominance of the ego.

I came across an absolutely fascinating article about the transcendence of the ego through the use of psychedelics and trepanation. What is so interesting about this article is that it explains the ego in evolutionary and simplistic scientific terms, and consequently is also able to provide a method of transcendence that is not veiled in the usual ambiguous and foggy vocabulary of spirituality that normally surrounds the subject. I can't recomend it enough: http://bit.ly/6Veqoa

Hi Mountain Wind

      "tell me, if you do not retain your identity, what good is it to experience God-consciousness?

      The experience called God Consciousness is an effable one. To the uninitiated, any explanation of it will fail. My tendency is to use analogies, so here’s just one: A grove of Aspen trees is connected underground—its root structure is a single life form. Lets say that each individually appearing aboveground tree is like an individual human ego who is oblivious to its connecting root structure below, and the root structure below is like God, or Unity consciousness.

     A convincing experience of this underground connection, which is so different from the aboveground experience so as to seem unbelievable in comparison, requires the consciousness of the aboveground reality to “let go of the ego”; to get out of the way. Only then will ones awareness focus on the connected reality below. DMT helps enable the partial dissolution of ego and the connection to the root structure below.

      In the case of humanity, such a visceral acknowledgment of our intrinsic connection with the “root structure” of unity consciousness has several advantages. We become convinced that our appearance on the surface as many individually existing experiences (ego’s) is only part of the story. The realization that we are literally connected, as an Aspen grove, makes us realize that we’re not alone; that everything we do, and feel, and think, and say, effects others.

      My personal experience of unity consciousness has convinced me that there is a constant flow of non-verbal communication between us, on so many levels and with such advanced architecture that our DNA is actually “physically” altered by others. Not only does kissing and sex alter the other person's DNA, but the seemingly disconnected transfers of waveicles of our consciousness does also.

      See the article:  http://personal-developmentblog.com/the-living-biological-internet-brain/

 

Interviews with James Oroc

Thank you for this topic and beautiful picture. This is the link to the interview Jan Irving had with James Oroc: http://gnosticmedia.podomatic.com/entry/2009-12-28T00_35_44-08_00 Here's an other ealier interview with him: http://entheogenic.podOmatic.com/entry/2009-06-30T15_05_04-07_00

The relationship of the zero-point field and human experience,

especially of the tryptamine kind, is one of the most exciting ideas these days. I have some thoughts on this in my Evolver review of "Tryptamine Palace" here: http://www.evolver.net/user/jedi_mind_traveler/blog/thoughts_new_book_tr...

By far the greatest

By far the greatest experience I have ever had the chance to come across.. I totally understand the feeling of having to do something about it, it's very tough with everyone's closed mindedness and unwillingess to believe they know nothing at all. Psyilosibin was what induced ego death in me and im contantly stuck in that state of mind trying to spread the awareness that I have experienced because truly the use of ethnogen's would pull us back to an equalibrium with nature, the understanding of the nature of reality and would improve our species as awhole, because we are all connected as one and are no different from one and another, the ego has absouletly destroyed one's understanding of the self, the divine and our true purpose/goal as a species. Jonathan R Foss.