The Presencing of the Other
The following piece was written as an "abstract" for a lecture on orbs and other odd phenomena that I will be giving at the upcoming Prophets Conference in Glastonbury, UK, titled "Orbs: Interacting with Other Realms", from July 11 - 13. Information about attending this conference, along with other essays by presenters, can be found at http://www.greatmystery.org/ .
Whether the subject is crop circles, orbs, alien abductions, UFOs, miraculous appearances of the Virgin, spirit encounters in psychedelic states, and so on, we face the question of the existence of "the Other," of entities or energies that seem to have intention, and to exist largely beyond the current range of our perceptions, while they touch upon our world. Philosophers would agree that we don't know "things in themselves," but only those aspects of a thing that can be perceived by our senses and cognized by our mind. It is also clear that perception involves a tremendous amount of choice, and that choice is based upon our psychological disposition. We don't see the world as it is, but to a large extent we see the world as we are.
I think this is true with all phenomena, but it is especially true with phenomena that linger on the outer edge of the cultural imagination, such as otherworldly apparitions. It is almost as if we require a multisensory approach to these areas, as ordinary sense itself -- logic or rationality -- seems too limited. Rudolf Steiner defined higher modes of cognition as intuition, imagination, and inspiration. We can seek to make use of the faculty of "intellectual intuition" as a tool for exploration, taking care not to confuse thinking about something from believing in it, or feeling something from thinking we have knowledge about it. Making sure to keep thinking, feeling, believing, and willing separate requires intellectual discipline, and is the only way to approach what Steiner described as "the spiritual world" without getting lost in our own projections.
In my personal explorations of shamanism and my study of extraterrestrials, spirits, and so on, I have developed the hypothesis that these phenomena are neither real or imaginary. What seems to be happening is something subtler and harder to define: the alien "Other" is coming to presence within the human Psyche. This appears to be happening in phases and stages, or gradations, and it is a co-creative initiatory process for human consciousness, which has to go beyond dualistic or "either-or" logic in order to participate in the unfolding of this plot.
Carl Jung recognized that the flying saucer as an archetype represented a development in the collective Psyche -- and the round shape of the UFO, like the circular form of most crop circles, made it a symbol of psychic wholeness. Even in its form, the apparently tangible object was a symbolic representation of the movement toward conscious integration of unconscious forces. Since the 1940s, the "flying saucer myth" has developed into a vast Wagnerian narrative, featuring shadowy meetings between ETs and US Presidents, Faustian bargains, underground (or Underworld) bases, and diabolical activities designed to create terror in abducted victims. This new myth seems to be about, in part, the failure of conventional science and the collapse of traditional authority structures, when faced with the Other as a revealed aspect or projection of the Psyche.
At this point in our evolution, the aliens that have come closest to revealing themselves do not seem to have our best interests at heart. However, if the encounter with the "Other" is a co-creative process and mutual coming-to-presencing, then this makes perfect sense: Rather than meeting the alien in any objective terms, we are attracting the alien we deserve, one that fits our cultural narrative of dominator control and predatory technology. When we shift our frequency of awareness and our level of resonance, we may attract, invite, or co-create a different level of alien presence within our world. Therefore, the personal work of developing our consciousness and initiating ourselves in a nondual frame of reference may have critical effects on a planetary scale.
As for the orbs, those floating willow wisps that continue to make startling appearances on thousands of digital images, I must admit that I do not yet have a conceptual container in which to place them. I look forward to the Orbs Conference to develop my own perspective on this phenomenon. They may be one other way that an intelligent "Other" is sneaking its way into our mind-frame at this point in time, or they may be plasma particles that collect like dust on a lens.
One way I have developed of studying any abstruse area is to observe, not just the phenomenon itself, but what happens to the people who find themselves fascinated, and sometimes transfixed, by the subject. Are they becoming more presently aware, socially active, and open-hearted? Or is the phenomenon leading them out of themselves (into what Steiner saw as Luciferic diversions from humanity's proper path)? At a time when we are faced with accelerating climate change, global famine and water shortages based on our civilization's systemic use of resources, any spiritual path or esoteric study only has value if it leads us back to active engagement with our political, material, and social reality -- that is, increasingly, my opinion, in any case.
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- 7-2-08
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Who is Realing it?
Hi Richard,
thanks for your comments. it does seem however that many aspects of the ufo phenomenon are beyond the definiteness we have come to associate with empirically "real" phenomenon. Besides Mack and Vallee, one great book that makes this clear is (if I remember correctly) "Close Encounters of the Fourth Kind" by CLR James. He would be with abductees who would experience fully visceral abductions in inner visionary or trance states, for instance, while also compiling evidence for physical abductions, implants, etc.
Also the absurdity of the alien encounter data must be taken as an aspect of the phenomen - the aliens seem to behave more like dream-beings than "real" conscious beings with histories and meaningful agendas. Of course there is the view of David Jacobs in "The Threat" that this is deliberate disinformation to mask their true intent, or the view of Steven Greer that all the abducting Greys are actually cybernetic organisms sent by the Secret Government to manipulate our minds.
The deeper you plunge into this phenomenon, the more it seems like one that is somehow deeply mediated and co-created by the human mind, so that each researcher gets a certain aspect or semiotic structure of what the alien presence may signify. In that sense, it seems like a fully quantum phenomenon, in that the "reality" of it depends on the individual's participation and framing of their experience.
however i remain open to other possibilities.
"Will the transformation."-Rilke
SO TIRED OF YOUR endless SPONSORED DEBATES!
Daniel Pinchbeck,
will you just neutralize all the evolution you seek in your endless, rhetorical mind? this is all you seem to be able to do, man...just acheive a suspended animation of intellectual paste. please STOP IT...can't you bring your Heart, beyond the small, localized self of Pinchbeck on Earth, to any wholesome slivers of your perspective? you just cage and cage and cage...you know that we are only perceiving, at our clearest, small pieces of the full spectrum universal reality this Is...you KNOW this bro...you know our bandwidth is severely limited... so, why do you keep resorting to your dried out, librarian's coffin of barely pulsing Earth perspectives? FACT: all of experience, on any level, involving any degree of full spectrum, occurs in a co-creative fashion between perceiver and "empirical" phenomenon...what is the mystery? all of our technology is consciousness-bound and consciousness-interactive....as is the same with much higher/advanced ET technologies....and technology includes our body senses as well as our extensions of them in tools and far beyond tools....and this is all bound up within the physical laws, depending on the state of Density infiltrating and templating those laws, and reality probabilities instating both the perceiver and the stuff he/she sees or interacts with or creates or denies....what is the mystery???? ALL FORMATION OF FACTICITY IS DEPENDENT UPON CONSCIOUSNESS , including perception, senses, level of DNA, will, etc... And the laws of Earthbound reality are themselves severely and WILLFULLY limited by our perspectives...by our history, technology, as well as by the agreement and evolution we continue to work through with the earth-influx ETs and non-terrestrial ETs....there is a contract and agreement as to what constitutes "reality" of the Earthplane, at every step....so....what's the mystery?? Co-creation simply IS....You are a spark of All....You, your "pinchbeck" self, are but a sliver of the fuller spectrum of your non-localized, universal, non-time and non-space bound Self that your present lifetime on Earth pours into...what's the mystery?????? why do you remand yourself to being a pinched nerve and a pinched heart? Even in the conundrums and endless machinations of your mouth and mind, there is no "other"
splendid workings
the voice is mostly a form of "doctor's script" and that's why I asked for the sponsor (or the pharma co.)....and the subject is certainly considered and careful about itself, no?....all voicings considered...I agree he is honorable and careful where he "does not know" and, perhaps, "has not yet tread"...yet he postulates a form of knowledge which can stand in the way of people removing their cognitive minds in order to Know.
I ask honestly, and SINCERELY...why fall asleep, from exhaustion, in a morass of debate, if that is exactly what those who would twist our lives would have us do? don't you see that atleast THIS is clearly upon our path (whether through the agency of this man or not)? Do you want to open to the All of Your Universal Self or stay gummed up spinning around a blind eye? THE Way is decidedly not any of the ways he proposes.
where's the love man?
We have steeped so far in mechanistic mind-think as to force a bridge between Pinchbeck's (and the Western world at large's) cognitive approach to understanding via quantum perspective reflected reality of microcosm out into the rest of the universe, psychadelics, aliens, high-fructose corn syrup motherships, hard-boiled eggs, pickled cactus, etc.
Unfortunately or fortunately, rationality and logic is the only way to reach the philosophical Western mind and the minds' of men in general when it comes to the topic of aliens. I think Pinchbeck- in his often emotionally removed way with a commitment to the topic and the truth- is a kind of bridge for more intuitive knowledge to stream through the rest of our circuits and into each other. Everyone has their role in the cosmic play. Remember what a generally great space holder he is for ideas and how difficult it is to put yourself out there when it comes to these kinds of topics.
Oh the slander! I mean- look at all the alternative shit on this site! Does that not deserve a little respect? Where's the love man? Don't get me wrong- I love the force of your fire and defense for intuitive alien wisdom- I'm the same way- I'm just saying some cooperation and compassion is needed when someone is doing their best and not just being an ignorant and self-serving a-hole even though by design most of us can only see things from our own perspective.
LOVELOVELOVELOVELOVELOVELOVELOVE
thanks
joan of art,
thanks for your comments. i am thoroughly sick of getting insulted and abused on my own site, which i created out of wanting to share ideas and also give other people the opportunity to have a platform. Earthstardude, if you have something important to say, why don't you take the time to write it up in the form of well-written, well-argued essay or article rather than throwing hostility at me for my efforts? If your piece is good, we will publish it. If it is a boring tirade, we will pass on it.
One of the strange mistakes people make - perhaps because they are so psychologically conditioned to believe in authority figures - is to assume that because i write about these topics in the way that i choose to write about them, i am somehow closing or occupying the space that they need for their ideas. In actual fact, the situation is the opposite: My work creates space for other people to explore these subjects in their own way and perhaps find a real audience for their ideas and their art.
School is out at last, earthstardude, time for you to grow up.
"Will the transformation."-Rilke
softening the discussion
hi daniel,
I'm wondering if you are claiming that I perceive you as some sort of authority figure....or are perhaps implicitly claiming your position of being one by informing me that "school is out and it's time to grow up"....Could you please reflect on this for a few seconds, and see if you may be projecting something? I promise and swear on my beloved grandmother, who actually is a "spider grandmother", that I do not hold you in any position of authority over me or anyone else (they must give you that), and that I DO see you as a highly intelligent, well intentioned facilitator of discourse and community. Clearly!!! But I really do feel that you are quite hung up on many issues involving the topic of Extraterrestrial lifeforms, intelligences, etc....I feel that you have willfully placed something of a thought-form cage around yourself which is a bit stagnant, useless, and, in some ways, as the bolts of your rhetoric and the bars of your classical intellectual underpinnings ARE so well absorbed from established fields (and I am talking "energetic fields" as well as academic), in danger of creating such a good mesh of it that people actually do get stuck in a cognitive engagement that stops them from approaching the phenomenological stuff of the matter (ie. - Full Spectrum Reality Being....4th Density Reality Being...involving non-terrestrial, non-physicalized consciouness and lifeforms, whatever you may understand it as)....Make sense?
In the very first response to your article, by Richard Merrick, whom I think is utterly amazing in his grasp of the essence and the mechanics of what's at stake in the issue, also voiced something along the lines of what I am indicating...but you kind of waved it off by making statements about "object and perceiver" and the creative act of consciousness....which is a GIVEN, utterly, on both our local, ego-bound, earthbound level, up to non-local spiritual levels, all the way up to the Supreme Consciousness itself (in the icon of a Hindu god or otherwise)....so it was really amazing that this was how you handled his response...by making a point that was seemingly so moot....and then how so many of ensuing comments to the article fell around this "wireframing" that you had put in place....Frankly, it pissed me off. Maybe it pissed Richard off, or atleast frustrated him....
Is this the way to become a Galactic Human - in the discrete sense as voiced by people like Jose Arguelles and other interpreters of Mayan texts? Is it right to grok this quantum leap beyond the current long count of Earthplane-reckoned Time and Dimensionality, to wit, by a set of precepts, circumscribing the panoply of ideas known as "the Other", and derived from, say, postmodernist university??? Is this where the tools are to DO the work of evolving we need to do??? I ask...beyond your efforts involving psychedelic drug use, have you explored ways to move outside of and beyond the processes of perceiving, discerning, analyzing, etc...that you have indicated in your article and often seem to be carrying in your "utility belt" when it comes to engaging the ET/Full Spectrum Reality issue....???
I also ask, would it be possible for you to accept my roughage and difficult husks of my statements as exactly that (as that is their design), digest them (the roughage is helpful), and be able to receive the essence of what I have been saying, and even respond to the point of my original statement?? Other people "got" the point....Did you? I have correctly honored both the local "you" as well as the Greater or Higher Self of you in my words. Please read the initial statement again, if you need reinforcement in this. You are a spark of All...You are Me and I am You...this is my belief. And we are all working together in what is happening....and what may form as dissonance can shift to harmony on an as yet perceived level....My message to you wasn't about being a tirade...I did catch fire a bit...but I let it flow, because I abide with enough of a real root in Love, Faith, Allowing, and Surrender, and am simply WITH YOU IN THAT, to do so. And I felt that the situation you were casting was falling into a torpor. I am sorry I went a step too far in making some nasty poetics involving wordplay with "pinch"....but, I actually took some of that cue from you (I've read your books)....if you can self-deprecate, why can't others join in?
My honest frustration with the way I feel you continue to mince about the extremely important subject of what I (and Dr. Greer, and Dr. Michael Wolf, among others) have referred to as Full Spectrum Reality...or Density is just that...very honest frustration, voiced with a well considered amount of "density busting" spit and fire. Will you please see/feel beyond the style of the statements, and into the depth of the statements themselves? Again, I ask you....Why do you feel the need to repeatedly frame the issue of "ET Reality", if I may sum it as that, into a debate between "conscious act and empirical phenomenon"?? Why? Why must it be either a paradox or a choice? Doesn't it simply oscillate between the poles? Isn't it simply, and complexly, richly complexly, all a co-creative act? And I am talking PERCEPTUALLY AND MECHANICALLY, not philosophically....Why does there seem to be a will on your part to perpetuate a state where there is a LACK of clarity...where there is a constant stirring of some kind of wheezy mystery out of the obvious nature of the energetics involved in any form of Creation or Being, on Earth or anywhere else, and to leave the issue stuck in a debate with this? Will you please respond to this?
Bandwith Togetherness!
Wow Earthstardude- you make a good point about the lack of clarity in a purely cognitive approach to the study of E.T.s. It really does take a higher dimensional toolbox to access and integrate this wisdom on all levels. You know what Mary Poppins as an E.T. says? A spoonful of sugar helps the interdimensional medicine go down!
The U.S. government certainly doesn't possess a lack of clarity in the grays' technology of tetrahedron mer-ka-ba field construction that could literally make a navy ship invisible when a field is used to shift its dimensions and make it unseeable in 3D to get wherever it needs to go and then pop back on the time-space grid just in time for battle! (Grays' are very knowledgable about Earth's time portals). Sound dangerous? Sound too sci-fi? Unfortunately it's the hard truth about the advanced alien technology our government is gaining access to through their allegiance to the Intruders as part of the bribe to gain mind control and power over the human populace!
What a deal!
Check out the Philadelphia Experiment if you get a chance. Unbelievable. The U.S. government literally zapped the emotional body out of one of the men in the experiment (literally- it was no longer an existent body in his light field), essentially making him more gray-like in Full Spectrum Reality of which he became only part of a human being with two conflicting mer-ka-bas completely out of balance.
Because the situation is so tenuous in the battle for this planet and the human race (our free will esp.), I think it's time that the people who are really interested in E.T.s make the leap of faith and begin to integrate the knowledge of these different star races from people whose opinions they respect or through direct transmission: perceptually, emotionally, psychically, cognitively. Aliens are real as rice pudding. And it's time that people realized the truth.
Another interesting point in the masculine path to higher dimensional consciousness and enlightenment- you cannot fully ascend into the higher dimensions until the emotional body is unlocked and healed, allowing access for your whole soul to jump planes. This goes for women as well. It makes me kind of sad for our men who are taught that anger is the only valid emotion and that any other real emotions are dangerous and might get one castrated.
Just food for thought for all my brothers and alien curiosos. It's time to make the leap. Competing alien agendas are a huge factor in the terrestrial battle to save the Earth. Sirians are here to support us to the extent that they set up a Christ-consciousness grid around the Earth through the 70s and 80s and amped up our DNA. However, if we choose to deny or skeptically question ad infinitum their actual existence OUTSIDE of our own cognitively constructed perceptions/projections/reality holograms, we are doing the rest of the numbed-out mind-controlled populace no service whatsoever. There is little to no real alien info available to the average citizen, the sheeple.
I am honestly freaked out at the government's alliance with the grays (and the pope declaring E.T. our brother and free from original sin!!!???) It's all I can do to etherically kiss my enemy so the fear doesn't control me and I can keep a warrior's spirit and heart. It's time to battle- not with our conspirators- with the other guys who don't have our best interests at heart, eh hem, the government and the grays.
But if we are still confused over their actual existence as "other" (even if the benevolant E.T.s teach us unity)- denying the polarity which we all see happening around us RIGHT NOW in this polarized hell we call reality-what kind of truth warriors are we? Are we not all fighting for the truth? Does that not make us remarkably similar? You think humans can go up to bat with these guys? Not with a fighting chance! We need our light-bearing E.T.s right now to assist in saving the Earth and the spirit of humanity. For real.
Am I the only one who's noticed how rapidly the fascistic mind control has become in America to the extent that I can't go to a fucking club without some guy threatening to beat me over the head with a flashlight because my chair's not in the right place? I mean- gentlemen- it's GETTING THICK!!
I guess the alien info incubator starts here and grows outward into the rest of the world with the peoples' lives we touch outside of cyberspace (and even within!) I bless and pray for the negative ego to see its death in all involved in this new intelligencia so that we may collaboratively and consciously unite to spread this E.T. info once it becomes more clear.
Please invite transmissions from Sirians and Arcturians and learn to activate the right side intuitive part of the brain as well as the mer-ka-ba (aka light field) around the body. Visualized star fields of protection are always good too.
Love & War,
-General Joan
The Heart of Michael Wolf
Greetings "General"....It certainly feels like you have a robust and well-understood engagement with both the "left" brain side and the "right" brain side of grokking Full Spectrum Reality and, therefore, our shared existence with our ET sisters/brothers...and your passion has such a positive, almost exquisite capacity to it...it's really strong and has a tangible feeling of power which, clearly, you aim to use well and in Service to the "light".
Yippee. Yippee.
I wanted to direct your attention to the work of a now transitioned, but imminently important "player" in the recent history of Earthplane Human/ET relation. Are you familiar with Dr. Michael Wolf and, in particular, his book "The Catchers of Heaven"??? I am also quite curious if D. Pinchbeck is familiar with this work and its author....I consider Michael Wolf as being on THE highest level of Earthplane Human/ET encounter. And so did, most apparantly, our "country's" deep black gov't agencies and their project chiefs....The ultimately tragic way in which this gifted being was energetically torn apart and used, paralleled by Wolf's deeply personal exposition of his relationships, often, as mediator between black ops and "off-worlders", as he termed them, is, in my opinion, essential reading for any of us who have had our glimpses and slivers of real contact, but are still stuck in a mode where much of FSR (Full Spectrum Reality) is OUT OF PHASE with our grokking and apperception of it....much in the same way that it exits out of phase with "everyday reality".....The emotional frequency that is carried by Wolf's life and his writing goes a long way towards "relaxing the vessels" within our multiple body layers, that we may, as you so clearly understand and state, release and heal our emotional bodies, that we can "hold the shift" that we have just begun to vector in. Indeed, the emotional quantity of Wolf's contact experiences, very much like our own contact experiences, whether purely earthplane or off-world, is the critical mechanism involved in holding the resonance of the shift....It's almost like the sense of fit between an enzyme and a protein....they are keyed into eachother...and it's also very much like the super-powerful capacity of our endocrine system/hormones (being that they are at the core of the 3 density physicalization of the chakra portals, it's no surprise...) The emotional quantity....really, the emotional energy, is primary in holding the vision as well as its genuinely ensuing reality.
thank you
Hey EarthStar- Thanks so much for the rec. I really have been needing some people who have had even more experience with this stuff, and will most certainly check out Wolf's work. (Friends call me the mother of the wolf pack). I too was physically and psychologically torn apart due to similar things of which are too loaded and detailed for me to speak right now. If you're curious about a bit of my story- check the last two pages of Daniel's Enlightenment Reason or Occult Conspiracy article.
It's come to the point that I cannot be in a fully expanded state in public (besides a few places where I'm recognized and worshipped) without attracting feds, security guards, and mind controllers who seek to shut me down. I don't actually like hero worship as it is representative of people giving their power away. Hierarchical top-down mind control that's urged me to find fellow Sirian elven overlords and zombie generals to plan an attack by art-fire in major American cities in 2012.
I've been reading Melchezidek's Flower of Life Part 2, and it seems my next step in manifesting this vision is to learn some of the invisible mer-ka-ba field protection devices to ward off the fascists and protect myself and my conspirators. I can't stand innocent blood being shed. The wolves are out and hungry.
I will say one thing in regards to interdimensional succubuses that try to make dogfood out of powerful and high vibratory creatures like myself- no one fucks with me that severely without my finding my way to vanquish them or otherwise dismantle their power in our sphere where they could fuck with innocents not as knowledgeable about their effects.
Om Eim Hrim Klim Chumandayei Vicche Namaha.
hey there
i am still thinking about your comments - don't have too much more to say right now, but i did want you to know that i hear you and am thinking about it.
my big question is one of methodology. I am sorry if i am seeking to approach this too scientifically for your tastes, but that seems the only way to bring clarity to the subject. What methodology makes sense? You can have masses of conflicting data and interpretations, but how do you speak authentically when you don't actually know the truth? I do think Nietzsche's comment that there may not be a single or absolute truth is a major idea - that truth may be more like "degrees of apparentness" or values as a painter uses them in a painting. How do we then find a meeting point or a consensus from which to discuss the subjects of alien realms and encounters? if anyone can answer this in an essay on methodology, i would love to publish it, as i am truly not sure, for myself.
as i write in "Quetzalcoatl", i see the work of this time as integrating left and right brain, intuition and rationality, so that is what i seek to do.
i do feel all of your comments about my lack of emotion or whatever were really off base and pointlessly hurtful. i feel a great deal about these matters and the present sad situation of the planet, but find my own register to express this. I would still recommend you "grow up" and recognize that.
"Will the transformation."-Rilke
Hi Daniel!
Hi Daniel!
Some of what earthstardude said about the "approach" on this subject I agree with, not only in regards to you , but in regards to anyone who dives into this "subject".
From my own observation, when you asked me to write an article about the issues with Greer and the subject of UFO's in general a couple of months ago (which was admitted a bit too long with too many excerpts from other researchers for RS and the typical format of articles here), I found some of your reasoning that I don't have a "firm grip" on this topic and your perception that I "buy into fear" a bit shortsighted as you maybe tend to get caught in your own "intellectual box" in regards to this topic.
Please don't take this as an insult. I'm very aware that it is not easy to fully "get a grip" on the topic of the "other" including UFO's, Abductions and such, nor do I claim to have a full grip on it.
However, what I have noticed over the years researching this subject, is that in particular in the New Age, the Psychedelic and 2012 "Movement" (for lacking a better term, trying to describe the general "audience" here), the majority of folks who get into this topic come to conclusions/beliefs too fast, mostly trying to mold it into their own view of how it "should" be according to whatever philosophical, spiritual or psychological they have read over the years.
For example, you have mentioned that Nieztsche quote to me as well and your issue with "truth". Personally, I think "objective truth" is possible, against popular belief. I also think Nietsche may have had many blindspots himself, but I don't want to get into a philosophical discussion.
Point is that we can easily over-intellectualize any topic, so we're getting screwed by our own intellect and can't see the forest because of the trees anymore. In many times this also results more into intellectual masturbation (which I've seen articles of that kind here as well, not in particular by you) and word-play for the hell of "going off" but not going anywhere in the end.
At other times, EVERYONE wants to be heard and has some sort of an idea/experience/theory of what the "other" is all about WITHOUT actually listening what someone else has to say.
I'm currently reading "Gnosis" by Russian Mystic Boris Mouravieff, describing ancient esoteric techniques (based on eastern orthodoxy) for the sake of conscious evolution towards seeing the world and oneself Objectively.
One of the big stumbling blocks towards esoteric evolution is the inability to truly "listen" and right away trying to bring in one's own ideas/opinions. I'm not saying that just you are, this is related to all of us, including me. Without knowing the Self and our own habitual/mechanical reactions and view of things, it is impossible to find any truth in anything, as we just try to feed our personality/ego, even if only unconsciously. Hence to see truth in the world, the universe, one needs to face the truth in oneself as well. You cannot find "obejctive truth" about any topic, if we don't clearly see truth in ourselves, ESPECIALLY the not-so-pleasant truths about ourselves and in the world.
As Gurdijeff said:
"A man must first of all understand certain things. He has thousands of false ideas and false conceptions, chiefly about himself, and he must get rid of some of them before beginning to acquire anything new. Otherwise the new will be built on a wrong foundation and the result will be worse than before.To speak the truth is the most difficult thing in the world; one must study a great deal and for a long time in order to speak the truth. The wish alone is not enough. To speak the truth one must know what the truth is and what a lie is, and first of all in oneself. And this nobody wants to know."
So we really need to see where we are all coming from, our own conditioning and pre-conceived ideas we havem especially about a topic of such High Strangeness as Aliens, ET's, Abductions, UFO's, Demons, Archons, etc......
One thing I notice is that people awlays default to certain ideas in rgards to this topic: "The aliens are us", "We are them", "All we need is project love and we will welcome our space brothers", "They are projections of our Subconscious", etc, etc..
However, what has become very evident to me is that the folks who make this conclusions (as "aware" and "awake" they claim themselves to be and hence they think they "know"), have never really looked into the vast research that is out there in regards to this topic. Steven Greer cannot be taken serious anymore and anyone who as seriously studied the UFO/Abduction field knows that very well. Yet he's very popular in the New Age/2012 movement these days and most people believe him without questioning. There are other amazing reserachers out there, some of them who have paid with their lives to bring out Truth (like the late Dr. Karla Turner), and when I say "truth", I don't mean some philosophical grand-truth of all, but simply bringing to light many issues and facts that have been found out by these brave minds. To see it as it IS, without trying to explain right away WHY an WHO. Let's just observe first.
Another great researcher, Richard Dolan said it right at a conference this year, we need to first slowly look at what we have, look at it objectively and see the patterns, the UFO/Abduction accounts, not only the popular/new age ones, but also the ones who are a bit more disturbing and irritating, which don't fit in any new age "all you need love and all is good" box, before we make hasty conclusion based on our very limited perception on this topic.
Looking at it all without trying to explain it right away with our limited understanding or just basing it on whatever author we like the most recently. We all have our "favorite quotes" on what to base our ideas on , which we always default to. But we must watch out not to get caught up in our own Subjectivity and Tunnel vision.
Even " subjective experiences" of ET/Alien encounters, not matter how "beneficial, loving or blissful" they were need to be looked at very carefully. It seems that these "beings" are able to manipulate feelings and thoughts of humans at will in order to make them more compliant and willing, to further their "agenda", which doesn't seem to be quite in humanities interest.
Now, I'm not a fear mongerer, nor do I buy into any fear, Daniel. I simply like to see things as they are without my own subjective conditioned view of it interfering. This is not easy, obviously. But even, if the issue with the "other" is not as pretty and nice as we like it to be (and I know many new agers can't wait for their "space brothers" to arrive at "the shores"), it still is as it is. But we'll never truly know what is going on if we do not look into it ALL and especially into the research that doesn't make it in the New Age Mainstream because it is too "negative" or "pessimistic".
To me there seems to be a subtle (or not so subtle) manipulation going on in New Age "Teachings" these days a la "The Secret", namely the ideas that just by focusing on the "good" and ignoring the "bad" everything will be just "fine". This goes into the same category of just sending "love and light" to these "beings" and they will respond likewise. Really? Has "sending" (whatever that means to begin with) love and light to W. Bush saved any of the over million dead civilians in Iraq since the Invasion?
This reminds me of something Spiritual Teacher and author M.V. Summers said at a MUFON conference last year, when he was talking about how humanity is being manipulated to welcome "the other" as friends, saviors and helpers (like promoted by Greer):
"[...]The next is manipulation of spiritual values and tendencies. This is a very big subject, which I cannot talk about in depth tonight. But it is no accident that in the last four years that we've seen in new religious thought the religion of acquiescence and passivity: trusting in the process; whatever happens is what needs to happen; everyone is right where they need to be; if the extraterrestrials are here it's because they're supposed to be; you don't resist; you acquiesce; to resist is to be negative, is to be fearful, is to be unconscious. A great prescription for convincing the natives to give over the keys to the kingdom, a very good, clever form of manipulation.[...]"
Now having said all that, I invite you and anyone here to have a peek into this little essay I wrote. Originally is was intended for RS as a request by Daniel, but it just doesn't fit the format of this site and it may lack the "intellectual eloquence".
I'm not really trying to "explain" anything in this piece, but rather show the topic of UFO's, Abductions and the issue of Contact from a different side, a side that is not much looked at in the Mainstream New Age Movement and also not on here, from what I can tell. I also bring up researchers and authors who have dedicated their lives to finding out "truth" in this very elusive topic, most of them who have to live in ridicule everyday and some of them dealing threats (and deaths) when "getting to close" so to speak. I'm NOT over-dramatizing anything here. It just is what it is and it is also, by any means, NOT the whole picture, nor do I claim it to be. In the end I'm just questioning many things, incld. many "holy cows" we all take for granted, especially in the New Age Arena. My use of words is not as eloquent and wide-ranging like the articles on this site, but English is my second language and I didn't grow up here. I hope you enjoy it anyway!
Daniel, for your information, I have changed some things around and added a bit more since the first time you read it.
So I posted it on my site here (3 parts):
www.bernhardguenther.com/Alien_Agenda.htm
or also on my myspace site:
www.myspace.com/bguenther
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=2065889&blogID=390995449
Scientist??
Thanks for your response. I'm glad you are still working with the thought and feeling forms that were put forth to you in my statements and, ostensibly, at this point, the statements of numerous others, in regard to what seems to be emerging as a shared reflection on some of your "lack of qualifications" when it comes to your grasp as well as representation of various issues involving ETs, Full Spectrum Reality, etc....It really is interesting that this dialogue is going on, because it sure seems to be an important one. The emergence of real, genuine opportunities for Contact are moving people at a very deep level, it is fair to say. And this is wonderful. Really wonderful. I'd like address a few things further, particularly your request for an essay and/or "methodology" of engagement with the phenomena themselves....and not merely the ideas about the phenomena....And I would like to start with asking you, as you claim to put full creedence in what you configure as a "scientific" methodology....Are you, in fact, a scientist?? What kind of scientist are you? My understanding has been that you were a magazine journalist who, through a process of "self discovery and expansion", had some rather profound experiences with various psychedelics and their associated mystical traditions....Would it be fair to say that, in your history, the technologies OF psychedelics have been a wholesale part of your methodology...and that you have made a sustained effort to either bring a scientific rigor to your "travels" and also to create a scientific rigor out of them?? In my opinion, it is definitely valid to consider many shamanic activities and traditions as being of the order of a "science"....as well as an art....there is really no need to draw a distinction (I don't know of any science that is not also an art, and vice versa...which is an interesting point, by the way).
Anyway...I would just like to make this point...
I think the way you find a meeting point or a consensus from which to discuss the subject of ET realms and encounters - because that certainly is all we're after, right? that's where "objective truth" inheres, in an agreed upon consensus of what IS - is to start with having a room full of people who have all actually reached a requisite threshold of perception, awareness, and outright facility in their own direct interaction with ETs....whether as earthplane physicalities, thoughtforms, lightforms, etc...Then THEY can teach us how to talk about the phenomenon, as well as, ideally, how to encounter the phenomenon along the same order of realness and materiality that they do. And I promise you....from my heart....that this actually works, because I've actually been taught by someone who is much more advanced in his abilities to grok ETs, etc...much more than anyone still invested in psychedelic use (the tweak is over....mission accomplished). It takes a clean vessel, particularly one that is EMOTIONALLY CLEAN of all the barnacles and servitudes inherent in the seeking of Spirit through those forms of matter, to hold the frequencies which are translatable across to ET-level vibration.
My greater point is....you don't speak authentically about the subject of ETs, etc...UNTIL you know the truth....until you know and experience and form a direct relationship with the actual phenomena of energies that have, for eons, been streaming onto this planet and influencing the course of earthplane Humanity...until you know it by sight, sound, texture/tactility, by its names, by it's Daughters and Sons....You don't get it from a book...or a philosopher...or a drug...I think you've got to be blessed and emotionally clear enough to interact with the frequencies and phasings of energy that are involved. Then, you have an actual "ground of being" from which to step or to speak from.
short answer
earthstardude,
Why don't you take my invitation and try to write a coherent piece on this subject rather than continuing to go after my perspective? I readily admit I have not gone up in spaceship or had a direct entity encounter outside of psychedelic and dream states, as far as I recall. I maintain that I (and presumably many others) need a sensible methodology to bring this subject into alignment. I have spoken with many people who claim direct experience of extraterrestrials, infraterrestrials, walk-ins, etc. I have taken in all of their data and listened very carefully. It still seems to be a confusing mish-mash or a convincing example of what patrick harpur calls the "daemonic reality," which is characterized by its slipperiness and defiance of logic and sense. The contact experience doesn't seem to be helpful to our situation on the earth, for the most part, but a maze of delusions that traps people in self-aggrandizement, luciferic inflation, etc - some of which, to be quite honest, I hear in your comments.
bernhard, to my mind, makes patently laughable assertions when he talks about "personally" seeking objectivity. I would be curious to hear other reactions to his piece.
As for what I am, I don't care about labels. You are welcome to pigeonhole me as you like, if it makes you feel good. I liked the concept of "bridge builder" that someone brought up before. My definition of "science" also incorporates aesthetic and poetic dimensions, which you should know, as I discussed this carefully in my last book.
"Will the transformation."-Rilke
Truth?
"bernhard, to my mind, makes patently laughable assertions when he talks about "personally" seeking objectivity. "
Daniel, you misunderstand me. I mean "objectivity" as to just see and observe what is out there in this field, without trying to give it an explanation and at the same time acknowledging our own subjective conditioning of this topic and danger of coming to conclusions too fast. Hence, Self-work and gaining self-knowledge go hand in hand with understanding the "other". I can't possibly get into "objectivity" from an esoteric perspective as I meant it and as I'm referring it to, as there is no space on here for that. In the ancient esoteric tradition there is an objective "real I" and a subjective "false I". I know that most people too quickly come to ideas of what "objectivity/subjectivity" means in their eyes and basically "default" to that there is no "objectivity"(mostly based on some loose/new age interpretation of Quantum Pyhsics). It's really nothing new and I know the "arguments".
Yes, it IS possible to "personally seek objectivity". Once again, you over-intellectualize words and morph it to your current understanding, rather than "listening".
To put it simple and in a nutshell, objectivity in this case means simply to see things as they ARE. You say it's not possible, I know that now, but that also doesn't mean you are correct. Don't make it such a philosophical issue. Keep it simple. For example. Was 9/11 and Inside Job or is the Official story the truth? What did really happen? Did you eat breakfast today or not? There is an objective truth. Same with the UFO/Alien issue. Let's first see what is happening and observe, look at the data, research and cases out there, without trying to give it some contrived and quick explanations, such as it is "karma", our "subconscious","collective" or "frequency" that attracts the "other", all of which has been around for decades and are repeated over and over without clearing seeing what is going on.
I approached my article to look at some of the research out there and find a common thread, and pose some questions as a result of this. I'm not trying to give it all a reason or explanation. I'm actually just question the typical assumptions people have about this topic. And the "conclusions" I come to a more questions.
I don't claim that I am not projecting my own subjective conditioning into it, nor is it a full picture, nor do I claim to have a full grip/understanding of this issue and I have no problem of "being wrong" for the sake of truth. I'm not interested in being right, but simply look for truth, which you basically say doesn't exist.
I'm actually not even sure if you've read it to the end, as I tackle some of issues you accused me of as well (fear-mongering, etc...)
However, after reading some of your articles on this topic, incld. the blurp on it in your book "2012", it seems quite obvious that you do not have a better "grip" on that issue, as you claim you have (and wrote to me). You seem to be over-estimating yourself in many ways and you seem to have problems of admitting of being "wrong" and with others challenging or criticizing your so-called "research". You say you're "open" to new insights and ideas, if it is presented in a "certain"manner to you. Well, it seems, that you are only as "open" as it doesn't conflict with your own ideas about it. What you call "Sensible methodology" seems more and more like you're looking for something that fits more within your own current (subjective) belief system and way of approaching this subject. You mentioned that you are not an authority in any of this and people shouldn't "project" that on to you, yet at the same time, your "actions" speak differently and you seem to think you "know better", even if you don't say it directly. Your great talent of speech/writing and wide range of vocabulary assists you very well in that. But there we go back to the Intellect becoming more a hurdle than a good assistant. More of a loop than going anywhere.
I'm not being negative, nor am I'm insulting you, just pointing some things out based on observation over the years ever since you published BOTH. I don't know you personally, except from some party encounters and reading your books and articles. So that's all I know. Therefore I could be wrong about my perception as well.
Just for the record: I'm not projecting any insecurities of myself into you. I'm not jealous, angry, nor do I feel rejected, hurt, inferior or superior. I'm no newbie to any of this, nor was anything you wrote in "2012" new for me. It was great summary of the popular ideas out there in regards to these topics, combined with a entertaining personal journey, but it certainly was no in-depth research. Sometimes it seems you are referring to your book as if it cannot be questioned.
Yes you are a bridge builder and your work has opened up these topics to a more mainstream audience. I thank you and respect you for that. However, this "exposure" can have its downside as well, for obvious reasons. It does seem many people and "followers" of yours do project way too much into you, but that is not necessarily your fault, but more the age old "savior", "someone to lead the way" syndrome, people are looking for.
All I really intent to is find out truth, separate lies from truth, in the world and in myself. As I mentioned before, I have no personal interest of being right. I have my own blind spots and loop holes just like everyone else. If we all could become more aware of our own internal lies, the ones we tell ourselves to make the false "I", the "ego", feel better, then we'd better equipped to find out truth in such obscure topics like "the other".
Here is good piece to contemplate on, something we all should keep in mind when looking for truth "out there". By Mme Jeanne de Salzmann:
"Your "appreciation of yourself" blinds you. It is the biggestobstacle to a new life. You must be able to get over this obstacle,
this threshold, before going further. This test divides men into two
kinds: the "wheat" and the "chaff." No matter how intelligent, how
gifted, how brilliant a man may be, if he does not change his
appreciation of himself, there will be no hope for an inner
development, for a work toward self-knowledge, for a true becoming.
He will remain such as he is all his life. The first requirement, the
first condition, the first test for one who wishes to work on himself
is to change his appreciation of himself. He must not imagine, not
simply believe or think, but see things in himself which he has never
seen before, see them actually. His appreciation will never be able
to change as long as he sees nothing in himself. And in order to see,
he must learn to see; this is the first initiation of man into self-
knowledge.
First of all, he has to know what he must look at. When he knows, he
must make efforts, keep his attention, look constantly with
persistence. Only through maintaining his attention, and not
forgetting to look, one day, perhaps, he will be able to see. If he
sees one time he can see a second time, and if that continues he will
no longer be able not to see. This is the state to be looked for, it
is the aim of our observation; it is from there that the true wish
will be born, the irresistible wish to become: from cold we shall
become warm, vibrant; we shall be touched by our reality.
Today we have nothing but the illusion of what we are. We think too
highly of ourselves. We do not respect ourselves. In order to respect
myself, I have to recognize a part in myself which is above the other
parts, and my attitude toward this part should bear witness to the
respect that I have for it. In this way I shall respect myself. And
my relations with others will be governed by the same respect.
You must understand that all the other measures-talent, education,
culture, genius-are changing measures, measures of detail. The only
exact measure, the only unchanging, objective real measure is the
measure of inner vision. I see-I see myself-by this, you have
measured. With one higher real part, you have measured another lower
part, also real. And this measure, defining by itself the role of
each part, will lead you to respect for yourself.
But you will see that it is not easy. And it is not cheap. You must
pay dearly. For bad payers, lazy people, parasites, no hope. You must
pay, pay a lot, and pay immediately, pay in advance. Pay with
yourself. By sincere, conscientious, disinterested efforts. The more
you are prepared to pay without economizing, without cheating,
without any falsification, the more you will receive. And from that
time on you will become acquainted with your nature. And you will see
all the tricks, all the dishonesties that your nature resorts to in
order to avoid paying hard cash. Because you have to pay with your
ready-made theories, with your rooted convictions, with your
prejudices, your conventions, your "I like" and "I don´t like."
Without bargaining, honestly, without pretending. Trying "sincerely"
to see as you offer your counterfeit money.
Try for a moment to accept the idea that you are not what you believe
yourself to be, that you overestimate yourself, in fact that you lie
to yourself. That you always lie to yourself every moment, all day,
all your life. That this lying rules you to such an extent that you
cannot control it any more. You are the prey of lying. You lie,
everywhere. Your relations with others-lies. The upbringing you give,
the conventions-lies. Your teaching-lies. Your theories, your art
lies. Your social life, your family life-lies. And what you think of
yourself-lies also.
But you never stop yourself in what you are doing or in what you are
saying because you believe in yourself. You must stop inwardly and
observe. Observe without preconceptions, accepting for a time this
idea of lying. And if you observe in this way, paying with yourself,
without self-pity, giving up all your supposed riches for a moment of
reality, perhaps you will suddenly see something you have never
before seen in yourself until this day. You will see that you are
different from what you think you are. You will see that you are two.
One who is not, but takes the place and plays the role of the other.
And one who is, yet so weak, so insubstantial, that he no sooner
appears than he immediately disappears. He cannot endure lies. The
least lie makes him faint away. He does not struggle, he does not
resist, he is defeated in advance. Learn to look until you have seen
the difference between your two natures, until you have seen the
lies, the deception in yourself. When you have seen your two natures,
that day, in yourself, the truth will be born."
Wow!!!theres a new Guru in town........
All these comments are echoing big resistence to resolution and even agreements....its a hot topic clearly....inside and out,within and without....deeply embedded in our psyche...
to DP i say ...........this is just preparation and training for Glastonbury...you'll have to separate the wheat FROM the chaff there!!!..there is no peace in a conflicting self,the dynamics stem from choppy waters in here and its the calm bountiful peace that will follow if allowed....you never asked for this ego guru persona yet its projected onto you unasked...part of your test and what you struggle with......but....you can make it a dance!! Bernard................thats was a sweet bit of writing......everything does come at a price and you can't have the one without the OTHER....loved reading your post....
Solas
Oy vey response
Dear Daniel,
Thank you for your invitation. I will take you up on it...and am in the process of putting something together with my creative partner....
as for any implications you may have made regarding the "luciferic inflation" you are hearing in my statements, I don't see where this tangibly exists...and would just like to clarify further to you, that, I myself have had very little direct contact with multidimensionals or ETs....I have had some direct contact with Mer Beings, during time spent down in Miami....As stated, some people who are very close to me have had extensive and myriad experience, comparable down to the iota of someone like Steven Greer...just to clearly represent the level they are at...
perhaps I can act as a "mouthpiece"....we'll see.
For my part, I am by no means a "leader" or even much of a shining light in this field. And I have not represented myself as one in any way whatsoever. All I have felt it important to do was to illustrate many of the pitfalls which your general approach/orientation to the phenomena as well as the "bridges" to the phenomena, beings, energies, etc....I wholly agree, you are a WONDERFUL BRIDGE BUILDER....solid like a rock, true like a guidewire....My questions have predominately centered, however, around the materials, design, and mechanics of this particular bridge....
Daniel knows I love him....I bought him tea
and it was really just that simple. the man was chilly and could benefit from a warm drink
thank you for your truth and reflections. I have just really been frustrated with the DP's grokking of the ET issue/spectrum....and I don't see why he should accept it any longer....not me...he....
there is far too much mind control being spun at the moment, by the de facto "powers that be", for people who are earnestly and actively working for continued attunement and evolvement of earthplane and earth-self to get stuck in a position where their cognitive engagement with the issue because so dysfunctional as to play right into the hands of those "powers"....to me, this site is hear to help facilitate people really getting clear and conscious. and consciousness of ETs, and Full Spectrum Reality (one thing to call it) is an utterly crucial step that is coming "whether we know it or not"....so better to Know it....
are we just doing information here or are we evolving consciousness?
Projection, Otherness, and Ultimate/Conventional Truth
I'm not Daniel Pinchebeck. However, DP's abstract here suggests that psychoanalytic concepts, such as projection, may be at work in the orb and UFO phenomena. That is, the "co-creation" between entity A and entity B may be hijacked by one side or the other, and unconscious elements within A will efface and replace elements of B that do not cohere with A's paradigm - or, A's paradigm, in breaking down, will project a "B" where in fact there is none. This is textbook and pertinent, and the concept of the Other is vitally important in determining for ourselves where our projections end and the other individual truly begins. It may not be "mysterious," but maintaining relevant distinctions is, more often than not, a worthy labor. Granted, a certain amount of overlap between A and B is excpected - it is, in fact, a "fact," as you put it - but to simply assert that there is no Other and no need for such a notion is psychologically, politically, and philosophically questionable. Even Buddhists acknowledge two orders of truth: Ultimate (which you are espousing, and which has no need for ideas of Other, or ideas at all) and Conventional. The Other may belong to the "conventional truth," but that does not in any way diminish it or invalidate it as a subject of scrutiny and contemplation.
conventions, in Vegas
there are many Others at conventions in Las Vegas, other guys, other girls, other chips, other beers, other breasts, other hotel rooms, other steaks, other pinatas....
there are NO Others within the ontological density of existence wherein the Universe and All of The Creation exist, and neither are there Others in the density of existence wherein lifeforms such as we may ever begin to know or finally discover as being of the order of "extraterrestrial" (relative to life on Earth, it's density, and it's energetic laws, or course)...what spits out these threads, sparks, beings, what have you... is a single, fabric that is entrained in a density, energetic, etc. beyond any of these vital emanations and is Whole and One within and beyond that density. It, like the Buddhist, like the Lotus, and perhaps like some of the folks in Vegas, steps down into the "shit" and somewhat less wholesome energetic of the place where actions and faces of Otherness may occur in order to do the bidding of The Creation...however that Ultimate Wisdom may Be...
Half-agree
"Co-creating" our world, reality, etc. seems to be a fanciful way of putting it these days. I'm okay with it but it really doesn't describe the essence of the matter. Daniel, you, me are "slivers" of a greater whole in an egoistic sense. Nothing really wrong with "ego" as long as one remembers that you, me, Daniel, all of us are ultimately part of the One, that is so much more. Think of a hologram. We are each ALL and EVERYTHING. There is only one Mind and the delight is that it is made up of whatever we choose!
Cheers :)
Hmmm, this is interesting
given that many of the accounts and visions of the greys, reported abductions and certainly any encounters relating to some Secret Government structure aimed at manipulated mind control draw a highly nightmarish and paranoid picture.
If we are willing into being an 'other' or 'otherness' we are yet unable to tangibly conceive of (given our dualistic modes of understanding) then these paranoiac visions kind of make sense to me. Many, many people seem fixated on global conspiracies and alien ones and whilst I myself do not dismiss them entirely find myself increasingly drawn toward the conclusion that there could be something alternative to the alternative 'out there.' I mean, imagine if there was actually a more benevolent plot at work in the machinations of these secret cabals, etc. That they too, like the rest of us, want a world of goodness and abundance and thats what they aimed for at some point, it just got twisted terribly off course and they find themselves in a strange and tangled bind to get out of it.
Perhaps we all have a responsibility to conceive of our world as something other than that we believe its otherness to be...
The Other
I think being able to talk about the "Other" is validation for it's existence. But just what is the "Other"? Is our experience the result of some hypercomplex echo mirror in which we see reflections of ourself, conforming with the common psychological standpoint mentioned. If this is the case, would not the mirror itself be the wholly Other? Or is the "Other" completely beyond our grasping by definition. How else could it be, or why else would it be so elusive to us?
Um
Are we talking about these orbs?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orb_(photographic)
My experience with photography has made it pretty obvious that the orbs are just the flashbulb reflecting off stuff in the air.
I can't believe there's a conference about this. I had no idea there were people that actually think these are spirits. I'm not being the materialist skeptic guy here. I'm all for Earth Goddess, DMT-elves, Pantheism, etc. I'm just saying the orbs are probably bogus.
Also, do fish pontificate to themselves about "the elusive other" when a boat passes overhead?
Does the deer who gets tranqed and ear-tagged call it a mystical experience when telling the other deer?
I'm sure they do
Right on, Duff. Straight to the heart of the matter. We are fish to the ET freighter..... no, I don't think that was your point. Maybe it was a proportional comparison of the limitations in mastery of dimensionality; our mastery versus "theirs", which would be something like a school of fish versus an industrial fishing boat..... assuming that fish are as dimensionally challenged as we believe them to be.
On a completely different note and not at all in responce to Duff's statement, the site draws some crazy motherf@@kers. I'm particularly amazed by how much anger a Pinchbeck article can insite, given how freakin mild and cool he comes across to me. Maybe there should be a ban on drinking coffee (or snorting coke) while reading articles here on RS.
Effective immediately.
th0se
"They," those locked in their ego-maniacal, binary power-struggle bubbles, entrain upon us as we glide by in eye-driven symbolo-capstones. They seem confounded at how we're free and they are not. They may even fear us, which we find kind of cute. They had us by the "proba-balls" for 6000 years, but we picked that double-blind lock & so have them back. Th0se binary pin things are totally oblivious to our resonance. They are as one-sided die. We'll one day lead safaris through their owl-eyed zebra-lands, just for shits 'n giggles. We'll have ourselves a hoot playing that old blind game of who made "hoo."
With relief, with humiliation, with terror, he understood that he too was a mere appearance, dreamt by another. - Jorge Luis Borges, The Circular Ruins
Binary Russian Broad Arcade
YES YAY & YAHVOL- oh illusive trickster multi-media M&M arcade with cardboard cut-outs of grays' heads that we shoot for mere entertainment! Or was that a vodka-induced (D)ie-(M)any-(T)imes and lost my head on Mars again dream....
NExt stop: intergalactic ice-cream shop with polar bear and penguin customers in an Antarctic capitalist co-op. Hyporborea pretemporal Lemurian aquatic feline vampire frogs serving monkies dolphin truffle fudge, chopping off their own monkey tails in bloody Vanilla Lament
www.keylonticdictionary.org
Advertising Myself
I love this. FWIW, here are my thoughts on the issue, specifically in reference to alien encounters on DMT (as in Strassman's book):
Part 1 (questions and complaints): http://limpwristsatan.blogspot.com/2008/03/dmt-trauma-and-alien-conversi...
Part 2 (resolution and expansion): http://limpwristsatan.blogspot.com/2008/03/dmt-trauma-and-alien-conversi...
buckaroo banzai
A "co-creative initiatory process" - thought-provoking again. Interesting to read the Jung points. Great final paragraph.
Was reminded of this Carl Sagan video clip after reading the post: The Fourth Dimension
Have a great conference.
The mediated other
Great piece. Every description of the other evoked for me the apparitions of the media world. I think the approach you advocate could easily be translated as a kind of media literacy. I long felt that the abduction phenomena was a kind of psychic projection of our fears of being abducted by technology.
John Mack (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Edward_Mack), the Harvard psychologist who took seriously abductions as a legitimate phenomena concluded that the alien encounter was a cosmic shamanic wake-up call. It was so other dimensional, he said, that we simply cannot contain it within our normal cognitive abilities. This also reminds me of the story that when Columbus arrived in the Americas, the locals couldn't "see" the ships because they were outside their perceptual construct. Buddhists argue that our minds assume what is in front of us based on previous patterning, and constructs a reality for us to function in. I tend to agree with this. As is the case with UFOs, which is a great term, because we often forget the "U" part of the acronym to acknowledge the unidentifiable aspects of what we are seeing. I have seen "UFO"S, but I'm hesitant to say that they are something. In our culture we need to reify everything, when often what is out there may simply be phenomena, or a process that has its own integrity and we simply crossed paths with it.
mmmmm......
There is cognitive objectivity to Alien phenomena- but it comes from direct knowing, direct contact, huge leaps of faith, intuition, conscious visitations with non-3D UFOS which implies that you have already hit 5th dimensional consciousness.
3D UFOS that people see will be as out-dated as Ford motor cars by the time the E.T. Mission has realized its co-symbotioc pact with Planet Earth. 3D UFOs are a trick to divert you away from knowing the truth that cannot be seen with the eyes- and until you are ready- you will not sense the presence of these other dimensional spacecrafts that are right now floating in the Earth's atmosphere/noosphere. Prime your field with love, compassion, gratitude, forgiveness, and intense curiosity for a shamanic alien transmission and you will come to know the truth.
There is no other
The Other Agenda
2 Sirians- One Truth. Saying there's no other is like saying there are no Germans in the world, or in the matter of aliens, that other races do not rightfully exist.
Maybe it's easier to see this unity consciousness as a Sirian/human since humans have a portion of Sirian DNA and are not inclined to think of E.T.s as other. (especially if they have not been properly educated about the multifarious E.T. races and their competing agendas). The importance is to recognize the difference between the malevolant and benevolant E.T. agendas.
The difference in agendas is this:
Good: Those who serve God in all beings they see, recognizing our inherent oneness
Bad: Those who think that they are God, while not seeing God in other species. If I am God and you are not, then you must serve ME! (One World Order)
As a unity consciousness race, there are even portions of the malevolant E.T.s mind-sets that occasionally drift through our heads. We do live in a non-dual universe though often polarized. Pick your side. Love, Sirius Baby
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NASA-STS 75 vid
Curious...hadn't heard of it before. Here's a 1 min video on the incident, explaining why it's odd: http://tiny.cc/P3Ac9
A shoal of gigantic ultraviolet amoebae from outer space? Or do they live in the outer atmosphere, meditating on what to draw next on the wheatfields?
Agreed
Zezt,
You're absolutely right. The invadors did not see many things as well (and still don't). I didn't mean to imply they were superior, nor bias the indigenous people as ignorant. I also have wondered myself is the story is in fact true. I have not found any varification of it beyond its circulation in New Age circles.
couldn't see the ships
The business with the orbs I have very little opinion on. I do know that, if there is 'such a thing', they are indistinguishable, in every instance, from light reflecting off of floating dust particles. Some may be something different, it is possible; but, unless there is some efficacious method of telling the two apart, it seems like something you could drive your self crazy trying to figure out.
This business about the natives not being able to see the ships, however, is one that seems a tad absurd to me, and has ever since I heard the story on What The Bleep Do We Know?. Non-physical entities seen with senses other than the physical I can understand there possibly being this problem...ships, however -- seen with the plain eyes -- are a different story.
The Natives may not have known what they were, but I feel most assured that they were able to perceive them without shamanic interference. They may not have ever seen a ship before, but they had seen timbers, squares of cloth or hide of some sort, canoes. Plenty of perceptions that would allow for them to see something like a ship. They may have said, "A great tree with the hides of some great beast hanging from its branches floats towards us on a great canoe", or somesuch.
There is certainly reflection in the area of memory before perception, but I don't believe this would have made the ships 'invisible' to any who had never seen it before. There were plenty of similiar, basic shapes that could have been perceived and assembled. They might not have known what the hell they were, but they knew there was something there.
Otherwise, it seems to me, any time anyone came out with something new, it would be invisible to us for the first little while. And I have never found this to be the case for me. I dunno.
"You must *be* the change you wish to see in the world." Mahatma Gandhi
Strassman
wanderlust
Daimonic Reality
perception
I've been toying around with this idea of perception for quite some time now. If anyone knows of any literature on this particular subject please let me know.
We have evolved to live in the physical world, so we concentrate on what is in front of our eyes more so than what is on the periphery. The periphery becomes the land of instinct and unconscious. Same thing goes for hearing. We have adapted to hear optimally around 1 megahertz, the sound of the average human voice. But we are capable of hearing from 60 hertz to 20 megahertz.
Almost every odd experience I have had has been on the periphery of vision or hearing. Maybe because my ego is concentrating on the middle. My unconscious is operating around my ego and seeing and hearing all the things my ego is missing.
Think of every time you thought you saw someone out of the corner of your eye and when you turn no one was there. Or when you go to bed at night and on the verge of sleep you have hypnogogic images pass before your eyes and maybe hear voices or bangs.
In my opinion we can evaluate and study these phenomenon with our ego, but never understand them with our ego. That's not to say we can't get some meaning or enlightenment out of an experience. Our unconscious mind is constantsly unconsciously giving us little hints and nudges. It is an artform to learn how to pick up on these.
Whether or not these "others" come from out there or inside of us is a moot question. The "out there" is just the way our ego sees our individual and collective unconscious manifestations.
That's my way of looking at it.
Adam
To be honest, I don't know what to say
-Tyler Thompson
A Rainbow
It was in Falmouth, Kentucky, some woman was having apparitions of the Virgin Mary. I went one day and there was a pretty good crowd. After saying the rosary the woman kneeled down and began to speak in the nothingness before her. A rainbow appeared to circle the sun but it was more in the form of a large Q. It got me deeper into the whole Mary movement. I began saying the rosary a lot.
A few years later I was helping to promote a bout between the former Heavyweight Champ of the World, Greg Page, and some young up and comer Dale Crowe. I had given Dale Crowe a staff with a hair from the white buffalo’s sire wrapped around a crow feather that hung from the staff. When I gave him the staff I told him that to make a name for himself he had to knock the former champ out (Greg Page was never TKO’d).
The night of the fight I prayed the rosary that nobody would get hurt. Greg Page came into the ring with the words “Knockout Power of the Lord” written on his robe. Nine rounds later, and with only fifteen seconds to go, Dale Crowe caught Page with a short left knocking the former champ to the campus. Greg Page never got up off the canvas and he was TKO’d just as the last bell rang. They say bells stand for vision. Anyway, Page's brained swelled to the size of a melon and they had to pop his skull. He is still suffering today and gets around in a wheelchair. Needless to say I never said the rosary again. Sometimes I believe the whole apparition thing going on is the work of the Trickster to get us on the right path through beliefs that we currently hold.
I once saw a UFO while sitting in my backyard. It just flew slowly overhead but I kept on questioning it all because I was stoned. And that whole crop circle thing going on is pretty amazing if you ask me.
You see this is the big question for all to answer… “Is the phenomenon leading them out of themselves (into what Steiner saw as Luciferic diversions from humanity's proper path)?”
And I don’t believe so. I believe that these issues are bringing us to the correct path. Matter of fact I believe much has to do with the trickster entity. I believe we are being called back to the tribal ways of life or to simplify our inter-connectiveness. To get ourselves, our god, not from a book the couterdics itself but from practice and witness. In the spiritual realm there is definitely a battle being waged and it is the energy of the Trickster that is trying to set our paths right.
As a witness... For years I opened the doors to a local church I once attended in which I wore a Kokopelli ring. I had only had the ring for about a month when one of the parishioners that atteneded was shot and killed on his front porch in Cincinnati. http://alexconstantine.blogspot.com/2006/10/comair-crash-murder-in-cincinnati-on.html Days Days later the police came out from the silence and showed the only evidence they had. It was a set of keys with the figure of Kokopelli attached to them. I gave the ring to my priest because I became afraid. But as the weeks rolled on they caught the killer because of those keys – they walked door to door trying every lock until it fit.
Just saying that I believe it’s to get us on the right path… it took me a few more lumps and bumps and scraps and lockouts before I began to figure it all out. At least for me, no orbs or aliens of the forth kind were included, it's just the way it all seems to work. You just have to lose the tension. Let it all flow like water.
I could tell you more… and it’s all about setting things right... keeping it simple... where nobody is locked out or feeling a knockout power of the Lord.
The Great Spirit... Wow... search and you will see that the Trickster... in the end... once he throws that spear through your heart... he's caught up with you and your life never will be the same. Seems as you come to just accept the simple answers of connecting the dots to the real time image and your dreams become more real to who you really are on the path that you choose.
The Other? Well, I say that you can count the Trickster in as a major here.
Trickster Indeed!
Fantastik Story!
Good Link
Here's what occultist Manly P. Hall has to say. . .
Orb photos
One more thing
-Tyler Thompson
What you're experiencing is
What you're experiencing is paranoia and you're juicing your adrenals. . .Just relax. They are not out to get you, and if they are, so what? If they can travel between stars then you've got no fucking chance of doing anything defensive if they pull your number. And why the fuck would they have anything to do with you? Think about that long and hard, what makes you so special, and by that I don't mean to demean you but rather to enlighten you.
I've been through that sort of neurosis before and have come full circle. You'll get through it if you stop believing and start adding in maybe's more often. Whenever you feel like they are out there watching you, immediately bring up the exact opposite idea that there is nothing there and you are experiencing a simple human neurotic effect which is easily cancelled out by repeated instances of "chilling the fuck out" and not taking yourself so seriously. . .
yeah man
i mean i havent read all that much about the alien stuff recently, but was way into it as a kid. Sure there have probably been some government cover ups, but don't we sometimes give those monkeys in the whitehouse a bit too much credit?
These narratives are seductive, but there is more to life i think. Like living it in a way that can, maybe, effect some sort of change. Or if not, at least it can be an existence of peace that tries to extend that to 'others' (whether they be objects in corporeal space, other sentient beings or things that exist in the astral realms)
Protect the Babies
Don't listen to anyone who says fear is not a natural reaction and that you're intuition isn't telling you something. Perhaps you have not learned the art of psychic protection and would be better off studying the enlightened E.T. races for now.
www.siriusascension.com
Build your auric protection by imagining a star field around you once or twice a day. Study up on the Ashtar Command and even invoke them when you start to get afraid. It's not easy once you find out the truth of once going on. Take it in small steps and manageable doses, reversing your focus from malevolant E.T./separation consciousness to enlightened E.T/unity consciousness.
Serve someone around you in any small way you can. And listen to your intuition if you feel danger, taking a moment to visualize your protective star field and align with the deep pool of love that is always there. Yes there is paranoid delusion as well as justified fear, and it's hard to know the difference. So take precautions just in case, and affirm to yourself in your mind or out loud, "I am protected."
Love, Sirius Baby