Testament: A Comic Book for the Ages
Adam Elenbaas
After first reading Douglas Rushkoff's work here on Reality Sandwich, I decided to give his comic book series, Testament, a try. I highly recommend everyone go out and do the same.
Testament is a well-crafted, highly intelligent weaving of hopeful, contemporary grit and progressive Biblical story-telling.
Douglas retells Bible stories with a scholarly eye for the true complexity of their accurate cultural and historical context. While doing this, he hypertextually links the ancient influence of these story lines – their timeless archetypes – into a picture of reality that is neither distant nor imagined, though alarming in its implications.
Testament is unlike any graphic novel, comic book, or spiritual literature I've ever read, and so it's difficult for me to place it into a genre. How do you describe Testament?
Well, I'm hoping it's actually closest to classic spiritual literature in its form and intention. The original hearers of Torah didn't consider the text to be a historical document – even though these audiences were separated by many centuries from the narrative being described. That's because, in addition to telling the classical myths, the Torah and other classical texts had many winks and nods to the contemporary audience. Puns that only made sense to contemporaries, or analogies that had much more to do with contemporary politics than the "original" story being told.
The Passover Haggadah – the little book of the story of Moses that Jews read on Passover – is actually an allegory for the Bar Kochba rebellion against the Romans, shortly after Jesus's time. The book was being read aloud around the dinner table by people who were engaged in an active rebellion against the Romans. So that's basically the formula I use in Testament, except instead of using Torah stories to comment on Roman fascism, I'm using it to comment on corporate fascism.
The other big point of the book is to use the panels – the form of comics – in order to tell the story in a way that just couldn't be done in any other medium. Deep down, I'm media theorist. So I have a strong need to see media being used for their own particular strengths, rather than simply as test runs or sample scripts for more lucrative ones (like movies or an HBO series). Comics are unique in their relationship of text to image, and panel to panel.
What I've been thinking about since Scott McCloud wrote about the relationship of image to "gutter" – the space between the images – is what would happen if there were characters who lived exclusively in the gutter of the pages? And the gods of Testament turned out to be perfect characters for this.
The sequential action of the comic takes place in the panels, like any ordinary comic. But the timeless action – the action occurring in the realm of the gods – takes place in the gutters between the panels. The gods can't even enter the panels, the realm of humans. If they push their hand into a panel, it transforms into something else as it passes the panel border. So Moloch's hand becomes fire, and so on.
It kind of explains the burning bush and other phenomenon in Torah where a god is attempting to speak directly with a person.
Describe the evolution of your work. How was Testament concieved and where did you find inspiration for the project?
I guess it was conceived in my head. I had a sudden opportunity to pitch some comics ideas to Jon Vankin at Vertigo. And I knew they wouldn't take this one, but I figured it'd be a fun thing to pitch. It started as just Bible stories, told raw and real they way they are in the Bible. I mean, most people don't know that Lot had sex with his daughters, and this is the line that pretty much every super-holy king ends up coming from. And most people don't get just how contemporary and relevant these myths are. They tell the story of how we got enslaved, not just by some Pharaoh but by a centralized monetary system, false scarcity – all the kinds of stuff people write about here on Reality Sandwich, actually.
The Bible tells the story of how a faulty model can get mistaken for reality, and how that can slowly rob us of our humanity. And given that we still sacrifice our children to false gods (oil), still worship idols (the dollar), and still enslave one another for financial gain ("developing" nations), it seems these myths are not only relevant, but living.
Then Jonathan thought I should make the modern aspect of these stories more specific, and so I developed a modern story of a group of contemporary, counter-culture, cyber-alchemist Burning Man type kids from Brooklyn who choose to rage against the machine they're supposed to become a part of. It's the near future, and everyone is supposed to be implanted with an RFID tag so they can be tracked for the military draft and, more importantly, their consumer behaviors. There's a big war in the Gulf, and the Bible stories seem to be repeating themselves.
So our characters end up playing their own roles in "real" life, and then serving as the cast for the Biblical stories that echo the same dynamics. Eventually, the characters wake up to the fact that they're living on more than one timeline, and that the stories in which they're trapped are not totally of their own making. The final revolution needs to be against the gods, and the story, themselves.
The story lines of Testament have a real urgency to them, but this is tempered by a sense of archetypal timelessness. What do you consider "the story" of Testament to be? Was there a sense of urgency for you as you wrote the series?
The sense of urgency is really the rapidity with which global corporate fascism is taking hold. No sooner do I dream up an outlandish possibility (workers being fired for not accepting RFID implants) than they happen.
For me, the urgency is helping people wake up before they surrender totally to the slave mentality that the Bible warns us against. These are really easy times to surrender to a myth – to see it as real. That's how most people are using the Bible, which is really ironic: the thing was written to help people break free of myths. God, in many ways, is the bad guy. But people got it all turned around.
I'm not satanic, don't get me wrong, but I read the Bible by actually looking at the words on the page and then researching the experiences and cultures of the people for whom the Bible was written. And then you get a very different picture of what these stories were meant to do than if you just listen to a televangelist say you're going to hell.
The urgency is to see what a totalized global economic empire does to consciousness and behavior. How much violence and destruction is required to maintain it? What leads to the least child sacrifice?
You present some pretty amazing Biblical scholarship. Have you met with any resistance from scholars in the Christian community? In what way is Testament a commentary on contemporary Biblical scholarship?
I tend to get more resistance from certain camps within the Jewish community. Christian scholars, like Jesuits in particular, play their scholarship a bit more fast and loose. They're more into the multi-disciplinary approach to literature. And they have less at stake in the "Old Testament" being true than do certain of today's Jews, who are still using the Torah as proof of a land claim, or of the legitimacy of the Testament.
Honestly, though, most trained Jewish and Christian scholars really enjoy the book and its riskier interpretations. Right in the first issue, I suggest that it's the Canaanite god Moloch (and not Hashem or the main Bible god) who instructs Abraham to kill Isaac. Now the actual Torah doesn't quite say this, but if I say so myself, it's a fascinating possibility. Even conservative scholars would agree that what makes Abraham unique is that, unlike the others around him, he decides not to sacrifice his son. (It's what people did to appease the gods, after all.) This was the beginning of Judaism: a new religion, dedicated to a new, kinder god who did not require child sacrifice.
So why not have the command to Abraham to kill his son come from one god, and then the countermand come from a different god? It makes the shift from one set of gods to another much more explicit.
And then (this is the scholarship part) if you look back to the Torah text, you begin to see all sorts of hints that it really was Moloch who told Abraham to kill Isaac. But you don't get to have any of this really deep, James-Joyce-Finnegan's-Wake-like experience of Biblical literature unless you don't need it to be historically true.
So the answer is, yes – there's been a little bit of upset, but not nearly as much as when I wrote a much simpler book (Nothing Sacred: The Truth About Judaism) explaining how all this works, and not nearly as much as all the positive speculation and discussion that's been prompted in the more liberal Biblical scholarship circles.
You mention that the Bible might be understood as an "open source" collaboration in the intro to the series. Could you explain this?
Well, unless you need to believe that the Bible was really handed down to the character Moses on Mt Sinai, you are free to engage with the overwhelming evidence that these stories were developed over centuries by many different cultures, and slowly amalgamated into the text we now call the Bible. And the process took centuries, and was the work of a kind of debating society of scholars and scribes.
The books were put in, taken out, changed, added to. There were real negotiations - which is why sometimes both endings of a contested story end up appearing. Hell, there's actually two contradictory creation stories in Genesis, just a page part. (I end up telling both in Testament – one as a "rewrite" by the gods who don't like how the first one turns out.)
More significantly, Jewish law really was an open source proposition. It was written and amended, each new generation interpreting and changing the law as they saw fit. And certain aspects of the "kernel" were agreed upon, others left for future discussion. So the hypertext, always-edited Talmud really is an open source effort.
Do you see the potential for a hypertextual collection of religious scriptures and stories from around the world? What would have to happen to make this kind of project happen?
It'd be hard, since the people who generally have enough knowledge and dedication to make something like this happen are also the people who are committed, in particular, to a certain faith. Most of these really committed folks don't like to find out how similar their beliefs are to someone else's. (You should see how upset Jews and Christians alike get when they find out how many other religions have flood mythology, but with heros other than Noah, and entirely less particularist outcomes. Or when they find out that the Genesis creation story was added way late to the Bible, and cobbled together from a bunch of other people's myths.)
I myself own the domain name for "open source religion" – though I wasn't invited to the Open Source Religion conference, which means maybe I should give it up to someone who was! I tried to start something called Open Source Judaism, and got as far as a Haggadah that lets people add their own interpretations, select from those by others, and print out their own final version. In the end, there wasn't enough interest or money around to fund it.
There's another site out there called RitualWell that puts together rituals from a number of different religions. But the giant, editable, hypertext mythological compendium will probably have to wait until this stuff is easier and cheaper to program. Wikipedia can't even pay its bills in the current climate.
What has the creative, collaborative process for Testament been like – working with illustrators, for example? Do you find collaboration more difficult than creating art independently?
It's really only more difficult because the artist is in the UK. I've never met him, and the D.C. process is one that's extremely writer-driven. There's been so little time that we don't get to discuss much. He gets a script, draws the pictures, and then I have to change my script to match them. Some characters ended up looking so very different from how I conceived them that I ended up writing entire storylines just to get the characters switched around and responsible for the actions that they'd have to be taking later in the story.
[Testament artist, Liam Sharp] is a tremendously talented guy, with a really complete vision of how things can be. We really owed it to each other, and to the series, to have a few beers or joints and spend a month together before the mad rush to meet the monthly schedule began. That may work for oversimplified superhero books, but it's really hard when you're telling this much story at the same time.
So yeah, it was really difficult. For the next series, I've already been working live and up close with the artist. And that really helps. Plus it's going to be a simpler book.
Who have some of your influences been? Did you ever feel these folks entering into the world of Testament?
Jack Kirby, for sure. I wanted to do Eternals, but that's Marvel and the people interested in working with me were D.C. Grant Morrison is a good friend, and he's influenced me more through his personality and approach to writing than his actual comics. It's hard to explain – you'd have to meet him. He exudes something.
My editor, Jon Vankin, taught me how comics work – quite literally. Scott McCloud, for sure. Jeff Newelt aka JahFurry has consistently demonstrated that comics generate a community of "love" in a way that regular literature never has. All the guys at Act-i-vate, like Dan Goldman and Dean Haspiel, have taught me about the way artists work, and made me a better writing partner for Liam.
As far as more intangible influences, I'd have to say Jonathan Lethem, Samuel Beckett, James Joyce, Richard Metzger, Genesis P-Orridge, William Burroughs, Paddy Chayevsky. Sometimes their names pop up on my pages in special little places.
The next issue comes out later this month. (I have my copy pre-ordered from Amazon.) What should we expect?
The third collection is available now, and the final collection will be out next spring. There will be 22 issues in all – at least of this particular incarnation of the series. But the collections are where you get the footnotes to the whole series (there, or online) and those really do help make the experience richer for a lot of people. I keep saying that there's no need to know anything about the Bible to enjoy it. In some ways, not knowing the Bible makes it easier. But people are really interested these days in original sources, so the notes help people find the chapter and verse or the historical reference I'm making.
As for what to expect, you should expect Exodus. The release from bondage. The last issue will be called "Full Bleed," so if you know anything about printing, that should be a dead giveaway about what happens to the realm of the gods.
What do you see coming after Testament? Do you have any visions for future work? How about a comic-book Bible!
I'd love to do the entire Bible as a comic book, fully annotated. Not all preachy and devout, but rich, historical, and highly Midrashic (interpretive). It's too early to put the Bible to bed.
But what I'm doing next is a book (a regular, printed book with words) on corporatism. I'm looking at how we have internalized corporate values. I no longer see "corporations" as the enemies we need to attack. Rather, we need to look at how to build another society that uses different organizing principles than the ones created in order to keep corporations and other central authorities in power. It's a really easy concept, but unraveling the obstacles to seeing it will take some real work on my part. Right now the book is called Corporatized: The Myth of Self Interest, but I have a feeling that title might change.
I'm also starting on another comic book, but it isn't announced yet. And I'm more fully committing to my column in Arthur magazine, which I hope will become a sustaining piece of work rather than a pure labor of love. Finally, I'm working on a dissertation about the biases of media that I plan to publish as a book (in a simpler form) after that. In some ways, that one looks like the most fun to me, because I get to tell the whole truth without any concern for whether people feel like spending centralized currency for it.
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Yeah yeah yhvh
It's a shame many American psychedelicised writers and artists seem unable to break from their own religious conditioning and memetic confusion....
The Torah and The Bible as "open source" documents? Gimme a friggin break! These books were written by fanatical genocidal maniacs (apparently exclusively male) with the sole purpose of justifying genocide and turning human populations into easily controlled herds - and you'd better believe it.
There was nothing "open source" about these books , and openness was most certainly not in the agenda. The constant modification was done by people in charge , with the aim of justifying their crimes (actual and proposed) against humanity. These were political propaganda documents reinforced by metaphysical rewards and punishments.
Zionist jews believe they have the "right" to violently invade and take over Palestine not only because the Torah is historically valid as a proof for claiming "back their land" , but because they believe the metaphysical messages of the Torah are also valid, and these messages make them the Chosen People (all the way back to Abraham, God's best mate) with Divine Rights above all others.
(Funnily, many muslims also think about themselves along similar lines)
The so-called "scholars" are mostly fakes with careers to protect, who could never admit that these so-called sacred books are not only historically but also metaphysically FALSE.
The claim that they are the product of some sort of collective archetypal/mythological knowledge is as equally false as the claim that they are historical documents. What they really represent is a very cunning and devious hi-jacking of actual myths and folklore, twisted and distorted to serve purposes that were not exactly "altruistic"- much more like "enslaving".
There's nothing modern or cool or liberating in attempting to re-write these false documents, because all you're doing is referring back to them , essentialy re-validating them, instead of truly innovating. The only valid approach i have seen is the complete ridicule, like in Patrick Farley's excellent Apocamon! (his awesome comix website , e-sheep.com seems to be offline at the moment).
So, Testament is really quite boring, playing with memes that are really passé... On the whole, American graphic novels have a long way to go before they can even approach the heights of the European leaders in the field - both in artwork and in story.
I think that we should
mesh
Wonderful article, thanks very much. I continue to be amazed at how readily transposable many of these myths and stories are.
Some West African tribes have a religious system of gods and dieties which correspond very well with the catholic saints. This led to incredible syncretic religious systems such as Santeria, Santo Daime, and Voudou as beliefs and testaments collided and connected. Religion and culture are often born out of war, slavery, and struggle. Stories, art, music and myth are technologies for survival, contextualizing experience and navigating the noosphere. I'm glad our stories are being constantly rewritten.
Testament Rocks!
meany
In this very page there is an image of William Burroughs holding a shotgun.... But I can't even be as mean-spirited as Bill Hicks, my idea of an american hero.
Douglas says it's not time to put the bible to bed yet, while i say it should have been unceremoniously dumped into the compost heap a long time ago!
So i am probably not being constrictive enough here, being a guest and all...
Scott wrote "I'm glad our stories are being constantly rewritten" . well, them ain't my stories , and they will never be "our" stories. Some of us will never join that club , sorry.
William Blake:
Without Contraries is no progression.
Attraction and Repulsion, Reason and Energy, Love and Hate, are necessary to Human existence.
From these contraries spring what the religious call Good & Evil.
Good is the passive that obeys Reason.
Evil is the active springing from Energy.
Good is Heaven. Evil is Hell
THE VOICE OF THE DEVIL
All Bibles or sacred codes, have been the causes of the following Errors.
1. That Man has two real existing principles Viz: a Body & a Soul.
2. That Energy, call'd Evil, is alone from the Body, & that Reason, call'd Good, is alone from the Soul.
3. That God will torment Man in Eternity for following his Energies.
But the following Contraries to these are True.
1. Man has no Body distinct from his Soul; for that call'd Body is a portion of Soul discern'd by the five Senses, the chief inlets of Soul in this age.
2. Energy is the only life and is from the Body and Reason is the bound or outward circumference of Energy.
3. Energy is Eternal Delight.
.....
Then I asked: does a firm perswasion that a thing is so, make it so?
He replied, All poets that it does, & in ages of imagination this firm perswasion removed mountains; but many are not capable of a firm perswasion of any thing.
Then Ezekiel said, The philosophy of the east taught the first principles of human perception: some nations held one principle for the origin & some another; we of Israel taught that the Poetic Genius (as you now call it) was the first principle and all other others merely derivative, which was the cause of our despising the priests & Philosophers of other countries, and prophecying that all Gods would at last be proved to originate in ours & to be the tributaries of the Poetic Genius; it was this that our great poet King David desired so fervently & invokes so patheticly, saying by this he conquers enemies & governs kingdoms; and we so loved our God, that we cursed in his name all deities of surrounding nations, and asserted that they had rebelled; from these opinions the vulgar came to think that all nations would at last be subject to the jews.
This said he, like all firm perswasions, is come to pass, for all nations believe the jews code and worship the jews god, and what greater subjection can be?
......
The Giants who formed this world into its sensual existence and now seem to live in it in chains, are in truth, the causes of its life & the sources of all activity; but the chains are, the cunning of weak and tame minds, which have power to resist energy, according to the proverb, the weak in courage is strong in cunning.
Thus one portion of being, is the Prolific, the other, the Devouring: to the devourer it seems as if the producer was in his chains, but it is not so; he only takes portions of existence and fancies that the whole.
But the Prolific would cease to be Prolific unless the Devourer as a sea recieved the excess of his delights.
Some will say, Is not God alone the Prolific? I answer, God only Acts & Is, in existing beings or Men.
These two classes of men are always upon earth, & they should be enemies; whoever tries to reconcile them seeks to destroy existence.
Religion is an endeavour to reconcile the two.
Note. Jesus Christ did not wish to unite but to seperate them, as in the Parable of sheep and goats! & he says I came not to send Peace but a Sword.
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"The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom; The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction; One law for the lion and ox is oppression"
challenging scripts
Since open source judaism was mentioned , the writings of Gilad Atzmon are well worth checking out:
http://serendipity.li/zionism.htm#Gilad_Atzmon
http://www.gilad.co.uk/politiks.htm
hey eco
You're free to express your opinions eco. I'm not so interested in what you have to say, or what anyone has to say, as much as I am interested in how someone is saying it. The language is sometimes like a vehicle for creation, carried in sound.
My gut reaction to how you "sound" is like someone who is hurt somewhere, redirecting and managing the hurt through anger and cynicism.
My gut reaction is that you sound mean. We all do this from time to time...nobodies perfect. I just wish you'd work on "sounding" a little nicer.
Why?
Well. Because I think energy is contagious, like yawns. You're clearly really smart, but your anger sometimes makes me want to be angry, and when you propose your ideas with peace and kindness, no matter how different they are from my own, it makes me want to think and consider and create new things together.
You're not a guest on this site. You're not an alien presence in some kind of collective consciousness. Not unless you act like that's what you are.
We're powerful creators.
Adam Elenbaas
hey
Adam, of course i am a guest here. But, writing anymore in response to your response would be off-topic and probably uninteresting to most readers. . . I'm OK, you're OK!
Thanks to you and the rest of the RS crew for giving the space to communicate .
I agree with Ecolocal
Rushkoff states “and the bible stories keep repeating themselves”. Does anyone see the connection/conundrum? Many bible stories deal with very basic, common human behaviors (i.e. greed, lust, etc). Humans will be humans, unless - something changes. And so maybe it’s time to break the spell that treats the bible as sacred, original and something to keep revisiting.
When Rushkoff states: “You should see how upset Jews and Christians alike get when they find out how many other religions have flood mythology” he makes an exceptionally important point. People are too entangled in treating this book as sacred and original that you can’t even have a conversation with them about historical facts and scholarly research. For many (most) folks who believe in the bible, they see it as a sacred text handed down by their single god. In actuality it’s a compendium of stories, many of which are more like hand-me-downs from different mythologies/religions/traditions.
A few choice examples: For the story of Noah’s Ark, check out the Epic of Gilgamesh from Ancient Mesopotamia. The earliest Sumerian version dates as early as 2150-2000 BCE!
For the twelve commandments check out The Code of Hammurabi - the sixth ruler of the First Dynasty of Babylon. His code is considered by scholars to be the precursor in important respects to Jewish law. The Ten Commandments clearly repeats some of the rules in Hammurabi's Code. (Note - the ten commandments appeared roughly 1,000 years after Hammurabi’s Code).
Next, for concepts that many think started with Judaism – i.e. monotheism, concept of millennium, heaven and hell - checkout the ancient Persian/Iranian Zoroastrian religion, where all these concepts came from. Many scholars consider Zoroastrianism to be the mother religion of many of the present day world's faiths.
My point is – the bible is not The Source. Biblical-type tales have been told for millennium before the bible appeared - - simply because these type of stories reflect very basic (often base) aspects of human/animal nature. The bible, however, has become such a lasting document because of Emperor Constantine's conversion to Christianity and the resulting spread of its text in the Roman Empire, etc.
Maybe it’s time to let go of this book and move on? For a website that seems geared to approaching a different way of living/seeing, I was surprised to see the bible on Reality Sandwich.
And lightly admonishing Ecolocal and calling him mean-spirited strikes me as a subtle form of censorship. Why shouldn’t Ecolocal express discontent with the resuscitation of a compendium of tales that’s licensed so much ugly behavior?
In closing I’d like to say - can we consider the possibility that it's time to move past stories like Lot sleeping with his daughters? Incest is, unfortunately, a transgression that’s all too familiar in the news. I'd love to see a comic book with some new stories…Something truly beautiful, radical and - - original.
Poetry Found in Translation
The only lasting value of the old testament to me is the King James translation. The Song of Solomon is one of the most amazing texts I've ever read - I wish I could write with that level of mystico-sensual adoration and abandon. It released TS Eliot's poetic daemon I believe. So, secular fool that I am, I need the poetry of the King James text, but value Eliot's The Wasteland and Four Quartets, and many other poems by others as more thematically relevant to my life. Nebuchadnezzar is an amazing Blake painting to me.
hey roxy
Roxy,
Well, Douglas is a writer on staff here at RealitySandwich because we value all that he does as an artist and writer.
Its funny that you mention that the bible is not "the" source. This is in fact exactly why Testament is being written. If you take the time to read the series what you will see is the Bible stories are being interlaced, hypertextually, with other gods, stories, myths, religions and archetypes throughout history and across the globe.
The very point of Douglas' project is to take the Biblical myths for the ride they deserve. The way Testament envisions the bible stories is a recasting of the myths in a universal way.
This hyptertextual approach has the ability to salvage some of the shamanic origins of many of the stories from the Bible. It is my opinion that all fundamentalist readings of scripture or its authority in the Bible is not necessarily linked to any of the original texts, authors or intentions. I think Douglas' series is doing a good job to shed light on this fact by a brilliant reimagining.
To criticize Douglas for being someone who deifies the bible is evidence that someone hasn't done their homework or their reading.
To go one step further and use fierce language is worth calling out....because it is not in the spirit of constructively critical exchange that I believe is necessary for creating useful new cultural modalities (which is what I think our site is all about).
Eco's response to Douglas' project was not the first of this kind of response I'd seen from him on the site. My only point is to suggest that there be a tone of civility that is maintained while debating, and I'm not above pointing that out.
You say, "maybe its time to let go of this book and move on."
Maybe a part of that letting go means realizing that it is not a book. It is a collection of 66 different books by over 40 different authors, over 1500 years, in 3 different languages.
Why not hypertextualize it? You were doing the same kind of hypertextualization by mentioning Gilgamesh and others. Why throw out the biblical myths? Why not try to save them for what they were probably meant to be from the start? Why not expand the biblical myths into the other world myths?
There are so many Christians out there who might find this revisioning of the stories useful for an evolution of their personal beliefs about the Bible.
Adam Elenbaas
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Adam Elenbaas wrote:
It is my opinion that all fundamentalist readings of scripture or its authority in the Bible is not necessarily linked to any of the original texts, authors or intentions.
I believe it is naive to assume the intentions of the authors of these texts where geared towards global peace and the general well-being of humanity. This is the subtle error Adam and Douglas appear to be making.
If we truly want change , liberation and peace, the scripts of war must be thoroughly rejected , not re-validated. But when our intent is to sell books/promote websites i suppose we can't take things too far, especially in the US , where we know who controls the media?
On a personal note , Adam , i too find your tone condescending and subtly censorious. I suppose one of our differences is that , as you say, you are not interested in what others have to say but how they say it, whereas i am mostly interested in exactly what others are saying , sometimes between the lines, not how they say it. Style and adherence to etiquette is not the top priority for me.
You see, it doesn't matter how many weeks or years one has spent in the jungle drinking ayahuasca or whatever, what matters to me is, are they on the level or are they up somewhere ?
Another troll
Roxy should be banned.
For comics with truly original , far-out and beatiful content, check out the works of Moebius.
Not so beautiful but thoroughly eye-popping and mind-stretching is Grant Morisson's The Filth - just make sure you read the health & safety warnings before you dive into that one.
Dangerous Thought
Adam,
Your line "There are so many Christians out there who might find this revisioning of the stories useful for an evolution of their personal beliefs about the Bible" strikes me as condescending and quite disconcerting. Why do you exclusively name Christians and not Jews and/or other religious groups that subscribe to the bible?
Actually, any group who subscribe to religious text that states they are the chosen one, and who believe such a notion (whether as devout religious gospel or as some sort of more subtle cultural conditioning) would stand to learn a great, great deal by understanding that "god" did not decree/write the bible and select them as "chosen ones" but actually man did.
Consider the heinous crimes being committed against Palestinians today. Many of the perpetrators are so-called "settlers" or zionists who believe they have been chosen by god and that land (which Palestinians have been living on for centuries) belongs to them - the chosen ones (as decreed by god in the bible). Dangerous thought indeed. This, actually, is one of the strongest reasons I've grown weary of the bible and its irresponsible deification.
And please note, in my original post I was not hypertexting Gilgamesh, Hammurabi's Code or the Zoroastrian religion. I merely brought them up as eye-openers for people who may never have known that these were source materials for considerable text found in the bible.
Also, no where in my initial post did I state that Rushkoff in particular was deifying the bible. I wrote: "People are too entangled in treating this book as sacred and original that you can’t even have a conversation with them about historical facts and scholarly research."
Lastly, I clearly know that the bible has numerous books/authors, etc. I suggested that indirectly several times in my initial post, and very directly with this line: "Why shouldn’t Ecolocal express discontent with the resuscitation of a compendium of tales that’s licensed so much ugly behavior?"
illustrating
Roxy,
You bring up a great point. I say that it might be useful for Christians, especially, because it was these kinds of hypertextualizations that helped me deconstruct my way out of the rigidness of fundamentalist Christianity sometime back. But I couldn't agree more with you. These kinds of visionary reworkings of old myths are important for all sorts of people from all sorts of walks.
And when I say hypertextualizing, I don't mean anything fancy, and I don't think Douglas does either.
It's simply showing the ways in which universal, mythopaic archetypes have been woven in and out of all religions.
I liked what you did. I'm not really concerned about original sources. Whoever wrote it first wrote it first, but I do think that the Christian myths of the bible, in particular, because of their elitist hold, are worth reimagining, expanding, universalizing, blending, etc.
I was just baffled that you and Eco wouldn't think this is a pretty cool project, especially considering the sorts of bible-bangers you seem to despise (I think I'm with you, though I used to be one so I have to maintain some forgivness and hope for these people).
Have you read the books? They're pretty sweet.
The books and tales don't necessarily liscense ugly behavior, just like the Koran doesn't promote terrorism or 9/11 necessarily. People take things out of context. The bible properly understood is a beautiful collection of teachings and myths. That's what Douglas is trying to illustrate in Testament, literally.
Adam Elenbaas
Thanks
"Metaphysical" false documents?
Just curious, ecolocal, what makes a document "metaphysically false"? I never heard this sort of distinction before. What would then make another document "metaphysically true" for that matter? Just using your criteria, I don't see how anyone innovates in a culture. Noting comes out of a vacuum like you seem to want it to.
Nah
Actually, everything comes out of nothing, and even science has found "things" that do spontaneously appear out of nothingness.
Innovation is not regurgitation. Direct spiritual experience, listening to one's heart together with the practice of mindfulness may enable one to distinguish between the true and the false.
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