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Suspicious Sunspots

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With the occurrence of the 'climategate' scandal and a monstrous snowstorm that hit the midwest United States last week, skeptics on global warming were celebrating what seemed to be proof of a "left-winged" agenda designed to strip us of our toys. The opposition's main theory was surrounding the role of the sun and its effects on our climate, especially with the activity of sunspots, blaming the sun as the sole contributor to the phenomenon of global warming. Wanting to continue with "business-as-usual," skeptics claimed that sunspots, which are the amplification of the solar magnetic field that bursts through with the rotation of the Sun's equator and poles, are behind the "natural" cause of global warming.

According to the Independent, researchers have found this theory--first raised by Friis-Christensen and Henrik Svensmakr in 1991 and then later in 1998--to be problematic and heavily ladened with flaws. Further research has found that when the errors introduced into the analysis are removed, the correlations disappear, with no link between the sunspots and global warming.

News spreads quickly with the global reaches of the internet, and soon enough this new occurence was found almost everywhere, all repearting the same thing: There are flaws in the research on the effects of sunspots on the climate and in truth it doesn't cause the harmful changes in climate that we are experiencing. But what are these flaws? The only evidence I have come across is a paper published in 2004 by Paul Damon and Peter Laut titled, "Pattern of Strange Errors Plagues Solar Activity and Terrestrial Climate Data", but this doesn't read like the last word on the subject.

The entire incident appears to be the perfect example of the tennis-match debate between the left and the right as propagated by the media, blurring the facts and exhausting the issue until all the energy needed to solve issues are spent.

The problems surrounding both arguments point to the fact that further comprehensive and cross-disciplinary research needs to continue in order to become conscious of the fact that human beings, and their actions, are apart of an intricate system in relation to the Earth, just as the Earth, the planets, and the sun are apart of an even greater interactive system governed by the laws of cause-and-effect.

Image: "Sunspot 930 from Monrovia"  by RBerteig on Flickr courtesy of Creative Commons Licensing.

Comments

Duh!

Sunspots are not the cause. The SUN is. But luckily for us the planet has been cooling for the last 15 years. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TqqWJugXzs

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a matter of balance

Perhaps it is neither....cooling or warming....just balancing.

 

he is like a man

using a candle

to look for the Sun

Rumi

Right-On

Better hypothesis

As a geologist I am very comfortable with the multiple working hypothesis - I would like someone to start publicizing the other ideas out there. Here is mine. The Danes have been on the case for a long while, studying the sun; who would have thought? The first paper to get is Friis-Christensen and Lassen (Science; 1991) If you can find the entire issue in the reference library, you will see the editors comment referred to this paper as hitting the ball into the anthropogenic court. George Monbiot debunked Friis -Christensen and Lassen (1991) in a Guardian article a few years ago wherein Monbiot stated the results BACKWARDS. I cannot find that article on the Guardian website. An important correlation between warming and cooling is the sunspot peak frequency, not the actual number of spots. However, correlation is not causation. Cosmic radiation, however, is currently at its highest ever measured. This is happening because the earth’s magnetic shield is down; therefore, climate is changing (and it always will). The climate celebrities, however, are linking climate and the economy. We can likely kick much of the carbon economy sometime late the twenty-first century, but we must not rush to judgement for the wrong reason. Yes, there has been warming to end the Ice Age. Climate is a chaotic system; the facts, however, do not support CO2 as a serious ‘pollutant’. In fact, it is plant fertilizer and seriously important to all life on the planet. It is the red herring used to unwind our economy. That issue makes the science relevant. Sulphate from volcanoes can have a catastrophic effect, but water vapour is far more important. Water vapour (0.4% overall by volume in air, but 1 – 4 % near the surface) is the most effective green house blanket followed by methane (0.0001745%). The third ranking gas is CO2 (0.0383%), and it does not correlate well with global warming or cooling either; in fact, CO2 in the atmosphere trails warming which is clear natural evidence for its well-studied inverse solubility in water: CO2 dissolves rapidly in cold water and bubbles rapidly out of warm water. The equilibrium in seawater is very high; making seawater a great ’sink’; CO2 is 34 times more soluble in water than air is soluble in water. CO2 has been rising and Earth and her oceans have been warming. However, the correlation trails. Correlation, moreover, is not causation. The causation is under scientific review, however, and while the radiation from the sun varies only in the fourth decimal place, the magnetism is awesome. “Using a box of air in a Copenhagen lab, physicists traced the growth of clusters of molecules of the kind that build cloud condensation nuclei. These are specks of sulphuric acid on which cloud droplets form. High-energy particles driven through the laboratory ceiling by exploded stars far away in the Galaxy – the cosmic rays – liberate electrons in the air, which help the molecular clusters to form much faster than climate scientists have modeled in the atmosphere. That may explain the link between cosmic rays, cloudiness and climate change.” Svensmark of the Danish National Space Center has experiments scheduled for the Hadron collider to test his basement experiment. He believes in muons, but elevated solar flux (> 10 protons per cc) appears to cause fog in the Great Lakes and clouds too. As I understand it, the hypothesis of the Danish National Space Center goes as follows: quiet sun allows the geomagnetic shield to drop. Incoming galactic cosmic ray flux creates more low-level clouds, more snow, and more albedo effect as more is heat reflected resulting in a colder climate. Active sun has an enhanced magnetic field which induces Earth’s geomagnetic shield response. Earth has fewer low-level clouds, less rain, snow and ice, and less albedo (less heat reflected) producing a warmer climate. That is how the bulk of climate change likely works, coupled with (modulated by) sunspot peak frequency there are cycles of global warming and cooling like waves in the ocean. When the waves are closely spaced, all the planets warm; when the waves are spaced farther apart, as they have been for this century, all the planets cool. The change in cloud cover is only a small percentage, and the ultimate cause of the solar magnetic cycle may be cyclicity in the Sun-Jupiter centre of gravity. We await more on that. Although the post 60s warming period appears to be over, it has allowed the principal green house gas, water vapour, to kick in with more humidity, clouds, rain and snow depending on where you live to provide the negative feedback that scientists use to explain the existence of complex life on Earth for 550 million years. Ancient sedimentary rocks and paleontological evidence indicate the planet has had abundant liquid water over the entire span. The planet heats and cools naturally and our gasses are the thermostat. Nothing unusual is going on except for the Orwellian politics. Check the web site of the Danish National Space Center

web bots, again

I think I'm becoming a spokesperson for web bots on this site, but you should (maybe - it is pretty grim stuff, as they are the first to point out) check out the latest report and the videos, etc. also posted at the link. The report is now only $10. Go to halfpasthuman.com. Your post very much reflects the shift in thinking their latest report is predicting will soon take place on the subject of climate change.

The evidence is out There

http://stephenschneider.stanford.edu/Publications/PDF_Papers/DamonLaut20... that link you can see the paper that shows the has theThematical errors in Friis-Christensen"s paper. Take 1 hour of your day and do some actual research and you can find plenty more of the so called missing evidence. Why is it that this website is happy to listen to the experts on things like quantum physics but when it comes to climate change the experts are suddenly the bad guys. The vast majority of scientists from all over the world are in agreement and until I get a PHD in Climate Science and can gather an army of top rated international scientists to back my claim that climate change is not man made then I will trust the experts because they and not me know what they are talking about. Thety have devoted there lives to there work and they have the facts on there side.

Eyes Wide Shut

 Because the politically motivated 'Experts' ARE the bad guys, as you will find out if you do a little Open Minded research. 

Google the word climategate and you will read how  'Expert Assholes' at the University of East Anglia where the main 'research' for Anthropogenic Global Warming was done have been faking their findings for years. 

Meanwhile nothing is being done about other forms of pollution  and the nuclear lobby are gearing up to foist  their demonic technology on us but unlike the 70's when they had lots of opposition globally, this time Nuclear is ok because it dosnt produce any 'greenhouse gasses'. 

Anthropogenic  global warming is the 911 of environmentalism. 

Namaste 

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INteresting

So experts are bad guys interesting. or is it just these experts or perhaps any experts who don't agree with you. I have read all about climate gate which Im not going to get into the details here because you are obviously passionate about it enough to label the thousands of independnt scientists from all over the world as assholes. which is a very open minded statemant i must say

the University of East Anglia is just one of hundres of research sites that studies climate change so even if there research is fatally flawed which it is not there is still an overwelming amount of evidence that says that gobal warming is caused by man. Who are your experts and why are they not assholes. The majority odf scientists who are global warming skeptics are employed t the oil industry. Im not making this up you can look it up but I guess you won't believe those articles anyway because they come from the evil media. Maybe you don't believe in education or maybe you beliebve that by educating yourself you become an asshole. I for one don't have he power to tell people they are assholes when I am not an expert on climatology. I have a very open nmind

and enjoy listening to experts on all kinds of issues becasue I believe in edcation and research which is why I enjoy this site usully becaus ethe writers here are sometimes very knowledgable on the subjects they write about.  One more thing calling people assholes whom you disagree with really goes against the whole namaste thing you sign yor letter with

Free your mind....Ass will follow

Dude you are in the grip of some serious mind control.

Namaste. 

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Ah-hahahaha "discredited",

Ah-hahahaha "discredited", he says. By who? Your favored ABCNNBBCBS commentator? A columnist at one of your favorite 'news'papers? 'Conspiracy theories' are a long, long way from being discredited. In fact with every day they get a bit more credible. 

They predicted the economic crash, after all. No one who'd been following the movement was the least bit surprised, either by the crash or by anything done by the self-styled elite to exploit it after. All those people feeling let down by Obama's total failure to even attempt to live up to the image he put forth in the elections ... so shocked, dismayed, surprised. Except for the 'conspiracy theorists', of course, who more or less knew he was going to be Number 44 from the moment they (and no one else) noted him attending Bilderberg. I could go on and on ... but I'll just say one thing. Who is it that's been warning everyone they can, til they're blue in the face, about the dangers of GMOs to the health of our bodies and our biospheres more or less from the git-go?

OK, fair enough, to start with it was the environmentalists. Until they dropped that particular ball to go chasing after global warming. The further the naughties went, the less you heard about GMOs from the likes of Greenpeace, the more those GMOs were deployed in organism after 'enhanced' organism, and the more the only people you heard about that from was ... conspiracy theorists. 

Right. "Discredited". Anyone who seriously believes that is welcome to go get their swine flu shot. If you manage to dodge the Guillan-Barre syndrome (and here's hoping there's nothing to those soul-modulating mind-control chip rumors), look us up when the cognitive dissonance finally gets to much for you. In the meantime, we have very little time so can we all stop believing people who JUST KEEP LYING TO US already? 

The Revolution is Within

Warming Schmarming!

You anthropogenic climate ninnys make me laugh. Check out the link below. Sorry there isnt a Braille edition yet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fl9fESYVFY&feature=player_embedded#

 

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Sure why not

Fluidity thank you for reasonable post its nice to see that some people actually use there minds here and just dont follow what ever some random website tells them is the "real truth". I guess Im just a climate change ninny as Naugahyde Budda says blind to the "real" world around me. so all I can say in response to that is when the new world order doesnt take over the world and in 20 years and when you are still sitting around worrying about the iminate takeover of the illuminatti I hope you feel satisfied with what you actually did in life to help your fellow man and the planet we live on. Just one piece of advice Naugahyde Budda, the matrix. just a movie.

Knowledge

Interesting how everyone seems so convinced that they "KNOW" whats really going on... I'll be the first to admit here that I have no clue!I study this stuff at school, I am an Environmental Science major, and certainly do respect the intelligence of my profs, but I can not in any way claim that I know the grand truths of atmospheric science due to my limited perspective as one human being in a rapidly changing world. Even if one has reviewed all the research, can anyone really claim to know what the intelligence of an entire planet/solar system is up to at the moment? Have you talked to the Sun lately? What did he tell you? Can any human being claim to truly know the secrets of geologic time? Can You? Think that Ice Core has the whole story scrawled in little bubbles, and that we can interpret that story with accuracy and precision?

How much of your opinion is informed by polarized political/social beliefs? How much of your thoughts are your own? How many were transmitted to you by another Charismatic "Truth knower"?

It may satisfy the ego to think that you know the REAL TRUTH and everyone else is wrong, but isn't that the kind of thinking we are finding the need to move ourselves beyond these days?

 

Friends, we are all along for the ride here- the best we can do is to harmonize with the other humans on this rock until the the day when things become clear to us. Its no secret we have wrecked the biosphere. Why are we arguing about the details of warming when we know that the Earth is getting fucked up already by all kinds of anthropogenic activities. Strip mining clear cutting, poisoning and drying of streams, extinction, starvation.

 

Who cares if the world is heating cooling or any other Damn thing lets get together and make it a better place to live with ways we already know how! Its no mystery.

 

 Peace be with you.