A State of Belief is a State of Being
Charles Eisenstein
Every semester back when I taught at Penn State, I conducted a rather unusual activity in my classroom. I asked my class – approximately 45 students representing a broad cross-section of the student body – to bring in a story that "doesn't fit into scientific reality." I told them it could be anything-a ghost story, something with alternative medicine, a UFO sighting, a dream that came true, an experience with a fortune teller or ouija board. . . anything. "If you've never had such an experience," I would say, "ask your friends and relatives." The justification I give them beforehand is that by considering what our culture categorizes as "unscientific," we will shed light on what the adjective "scientific" means as well.
When they began sharing their stories in turn, I unleashed a little surprise. I debunked their stories as best as I possibly can, using all the weapons in the Skeptical arsenal. I explained their stories away as confabulation, hallucination, and selective memory. I appealed to coincidence. I contrived mechanistic explanations. I impugned their integrity or the integrity of their friends. I accused them of attention-seeking. I questioned their sanity. I implied they were on drugs, drinking too much, emotionally distraught, mentally unstable.
Let me share a few examples to give you a flavor for this exercise:
Michelle: "At 3:00 a.m., my mother woke up suddenly to see her mother looking over my brother's bassinet. She got scared from seeing such a thing, and when she looked back towards my brother, the image of my grandma was gone. My mom waited up all night worrying that something terrible happened. At 7:00 that same morning she got a call from her father saying that my grandma had passed away at 3:00 a.m. that night.
My debunking: "Your mother probably knew her mother was gravely ill, and was constantly worrying and obsessing about it, losing sleep (as you imply). In her distraught state, she even started hallucinating. It was just coincidence that your grandmother died around the time she had that hallucination. In fact, probably she didn't die at exactly the same time at all. The hallucination probably happened several hours or even days before her death, but for the sake of a dramatic story your family has remembered them as happening simultaneously. Probably your mother couldn't handle the intensity of the grief, so she created this story as part of her psychological mechanism of denial."
John: "In high school I had three pretty serious automobile accidents. Each time when I called home, my mother picked up the phone on the first ring and said immediately, 'Are you all right?' She only answered the phone like that those three times."
My debunking: "You are wrong, John, your mother answers the phone like that quite often, because she is a worry-bug who constantly imagines something terrible has happened to someone. So of course once in a while she gets it right, and those are the times you remember."
John: "No she's not, she's very sensible and down to earth."
Me: "You only think so because you've bought into it too and don't even notice anymore. You are probably emotionally dependent on your mother's overprotection. Poor baby, are you all right?"
Zack: "When I was around the age of twelve, I had a very memorable dream. I was a gold prospector during the gold rush. In the dream I had my land marked off with rope, all my tools together and I was mining at Pikes Peak in California. As the dream continued I went from prospector to having people mine for me. I was becoming more and more wealthy until one day an earthquake took my house and my family. I tried to rebuild but I couldn't. Everything in my life was beginning to fail. I couldn't understand why I was such a loser in life after all I had once achieved. I then woke up in my bed; it was time for school. I slipped on my clothes after my morning preparations. Around lunch time I reached into my jacket pocket to find money for the lunch lady and felt an oversized coin. The coin was dated 1880 and was solid gold. To this day I don't know where the coin came from and why it ended up in my pocket." (Upon questioning, Zack added that it was a twenty-dollar gold piece in excellent condition. These are worth thousands of dollars today. How did such a thing get into a schoolboy's pocket?)
My debunking: "You had been interested in the Gold Rush, so as a joke, your dad or your uncle put that coin in your pocket. Your obsession with the Gold Rush also explains your vivid dream. Or maybe you had the gold piece and knew about it; actually you had it long before the dream, but remember finding it as after. Or, more likely still, Zack, you stole the coin from your dad's coin collection and felt guilty about it, so you made up a story about how it 'suddenly appeared' in your pocket. Come on, admit it!"
Chris was working as an emergency medical technician. Arriving at the scene of an accident, he was trying to decide which victim was the highest priority for treatment when a little girl tugged at his shirt and said, "Help my dad." Chris asked where her dad was and she pointed over the embankment into the woods. Scrambling down, he found a jogger, out of sight of the road, drifting in and out of consciousness – apparently when the two vehicles collided they also hit a jogger. Loading him onto an ambulance, Chris yelled to a police officer to watch out for his daughter, but he couldn't find her. A month later the man came to thank him and brought a cake. "How did you find me down there?" he asked. "Your daughter told me." "I don't have a daughter!"
My debunking: "Probably the girl was just a passenger in the car who saw the jogger get hit. She only called him daddy because she was disoriented from the accident."
One more example: Grandma's photo falls off the mantelpiece the moment she unexpectedly dies in another state.
My debunking: "It was just a sudden gust of wind. It was summer, right? Your windows were probably open. A photograph is not that heavy. Probably it wasn't the exact moment of her death. You just connected these two events in the human brain's natural proclivity to find patterns, to the point of projecting them onto random events."
If all else fails, there is always the file-drawer effect: "It was just coincidence. We never hear about the numerous times someone's photograph fell down and they were perfectly okay, or when someone has a dream that doesn't come true." Another all-purpose response that I like to use when the stories are simply impossible to explain away is, "You are making this up, aren't you Scott. You want us to think you are special, don't you?" But my favorite in the college classroom (for recent experiences) is, "Say, Bill, were you drinking a lot around that time?"
If it is a second-hand story, I can claim that the narrator was lied to, and that my judgment of the witness's integrity is better than his own. "Your grandmother is obviously mentally unstable, but you can't recognize it." With these techniques, I can explain anything.
As we go around the room, something rather unexpected happens. My first few explanations meet with general assent, judging from the heads I see nodding. (The response of the debunking "victim" is typically a dubious "I guess it could have happened that way", or a defiant, "You are wrong, I know it was real.") But after five or six stories, my efforts begin to seem contrived and my explanations decreasingly persuasive. The charges of selective memory, confabulation, attention-seeking, fraud, hallucination, coincidence and so forth – along with a little character assassination when necessary – appear perfectly reasonable at first, but soon it becomes clear that the debunker himself is blindly committed to his own dogmatic worldview that is impervious to any evidence.
Let me hasten to add that Skepticism and belief represent two poles that are both present, to varying degrees, in any real person. (Throughout this essay I use "Skeptic" capitalized to denote a confirmed unbeliever, as exemplified by organizations that call themselves "skeptical".) Even the most hardened Skeptic has moments when he believes someone just because what is said rings true. Meanwhile, the most fervent believer sometimes finds herself saying, "That couldn't have happened, there must be some other explanation." Curiously, as I listen to my students' stories, I often hear both voices at once. Part of me is amazed even as another part dismisses the story. That latter part always craves proof, more and more proof. No amount is sufficient to quiet that voice, because another interpretation is always possible. At some point a decision to believe is necessary. If I claimed I could control the flip of a coin, how many consecutive heads would it take to convince you? Ten? Twenty? That's a p-value of 0.000001, but it could still be coincidence, and conventions about p-values are no substitute for certainty. We can still choose to disbelieve. Or we can question the premises of the statistics. For the coin flipping, would you check my background to see if I were a trained stage magician? Would you examine the coin? Ask me to perform shirtless? Under video surveillance? And later, would you wonder whether you'd just imagined it? No amount of proof can quench the thirst for certainty.
The unfalsifiable world-view of the Skeptic extends far beyond scientific paradigms to encompass a very cynical view of human nature. The debunker must buy into a world full of frauds, dupes, and the mentally unstable, where most people are less intelligent and less sane than he is, and in which apparently honest people indulge in the most outrageous mendacity for no good reason. For the witnesses are, on the face of it, sincere. How can I account for their apparent sincerity? I have to assume either (1) that this apparent sincerity is a cynical cover for the most base or fatuous motives, or (2) they are ignorant, incapable of distinguishing truth from lies and delusion.
Most of the Skeptical materials I've encountered invoke "reason" as the highest principle of human thought, implicitly assuming themselves to possess this virtue in superior quantities. Behind most Skeptical explanations is the belief, "I am better (smarter, saner, etc.) than you are."
For example, when I offer a trivial mechanistic explanation of an anomalous event (a gust of wind), I am implying that the witness is too incompetent or stupid an observer to consider it.
When I appeal to selective memory or confabulation, I am implying that the witness's own mentation is out of touch with objective reality. . . but I wouldn't do that with my memories.
When I charge that the witness has been duped, I imply that he is incompetent and gullible, but that a rational, intelligent person like me would never be taken in by the fraud. I also imply that he is a poor judge of human character, unable to tell a conniving charlatan from a sincere person.
Many if not all of my explanations come down to one of the following:
"I am a better judge of human character than you are."
"You are missing an obvious explanation that I would have found if I were there"; in other words, "I am a better, more rational observer of reality than you are."
Similarly, "You are a very poor observer."
"You are mentally unstable; I would not be subject to such delusions."
"You are lying; you are a person of inferior integrity."
"It couldn't have happened because reality just is not like that" (Here I simply deny another person's experience. "I saw a UFO." "No you didn't!")
"The connections you draw are coincidence; the meaning you derive is your own projection." ("I know how reality works and you don't").
Clearly, beliefs about the nature of physical reality are connected to beliefs about human nature. These, in turn, determine how we relate to the world. Beliefs are not just thoughts floating around in the head, they are part of our embodiment and they manifest as actions. In other words, a state of belief is a state of being. The Skeptical versus the believing mindset can represent a choice between suspicion and trust, cynicism or sincerity. When we reject, even intellectually, that synchronicities have any meaning beyond what we project onto them, we are also rejecting that the events of our lives are meaningful. Do things happen for a reason, a purpose? Do we have a destiny? Is there a purpose to life beyond survival and reproduction, or its economic equivalent, the maximization of rational self-interest? The Skeptical mindset says no.
The Skeptical mindset, which is the mindset of classical science, inevitably generates feelings of emptiness, loneliness, and meaninglessness. The traditional rationalist answer is that we just have to face up to it, and not delude ourselves with the comforting fantasies of religion. As Jacques Monod put it,
"Man must at last wake out of his millenary dream; and in doing so wake to his total solitude, his fundamental isolation. Now does he at last realize that, like a gypsy, he lives at the boundary of an alien world. A world that is deaf to his music, just as indifferent to his hopes as to his suffering or his crimes."[1]
The built-in arrogance of the Skeptical position is counterpart to an equivalent loneliness, which is implicit in the fundamental assumption of the religion of science-objectivity. We are discrete and separate observers in a universe of impersonal forces and masses. Along with loneliness comes powerlessness. Just as all life events are reducible to just so many generic particles and forces, so also is our power to affect the universe limited to the physics of F=MA. In the final analysis, you, my friend, are a mass. Thus it was that Bertrand Russell wrote,
"Even more purposeless, more void of meaning, is the world which science presents for our belief. Amid such a world, if anywhere, our ideals henceforward must find a home. That man is the product of causes which had no prevision of the end they were achieving; that his origin, his growth, his fears, his loves and his beliefs, are but the outcome of accidental collocations of atoms; that no fire, no heroism, no intensity of thought and feeling, can preserve an individual life beyond the grave; that all the labors of the ages, all the devotion, all the inspiration, all the noonday brightness of human genius, are destined to extinction in the vast death of the solar system, and the whole temper of Man's achievement must inevitably be buried beneath the debris of a universe in ruins – all these things, if not quite beyond dispute, are yet so nearly certain that no philosophy which rejects them can hope to stand. Only within the scaffolding of these truths, only on the firm foundation of unyielding despair, can the soul's habitation henceforth be safely built." [2]
A firm foundation of unyielding despair. Remember, all of us harbor a little of both Skeptic and Believer inside us. An inchoate dread lurks within the most convinced proponent that says, "Maybe it isn't real. Maybe it was coincidence. Maybe I'm imagining it." It certainly lurks in me, fueling the hopeless quest for certainty. At bottom, perhaps the Skeptics are really seeking the same thing that psi researchers are – liberation from despair. I think deep down they wish to believe that life is more than, to quote Shakespeare, "a sound and a fury, signifying nothing." They would like nothing more than to confirm their intuition, which is universal to humankind, that our lives are purposeful and that life events have a meaning. But since any evidence can be interpreted either way if you try hard enough, the craving for certainty can never be met, at least not from the viewpoint of the objective observer. I once heard a leading Skeptic say that he would love to have incontrovertible evidence of life after death, but that unfortunately it just does exist. He'd welcome it though! And I think he was telling the truth.
The evidence can always be interpreted either way. What my classroom exercise makes apparent is that this interpretation is not neutral, but represents a statement of who I am and how I will relate to the world. Embedded in the rationalist intuitions of classical science, we crave certainty. Scientific ideology, the ideology of objectivity, says that belief should follow evidence. That, indeed, forms the conceptual basis of the Scientific Method. The possibility that evidence follows belief is outside its grasp.
In the end, belief versus unbelief is a personal choice, an inescapably subjective creation of self and world from which not even Occam's Razor can save us. In fact, it can trap us. Because even though the "simplest" explanation for, say, a past-life memory might be, "He actually is remembering a past life," this answer calls into question the entire "cathedral of science" (to use Roger Penrose's phrase). The dogmatist asks, should we question the consensus of millions of brilliant, dedicated scientists developed over centuries, just to accommodate one little ghost story? Seen in these terms, the "simplest" explanation is that the subject is lying, deceived, deluded, unstable, stupid, or irrational. Preserving the cathedral of science can justify some very elaborate explanations, or more precisely, "explainings-away," of events that would on the surface seem to challenge it.
The inescapable subjectivity of choice illuminates a striking similarity linking debunking skeptics and psi researchers. While they disagree on the interpretation of the evidence for psi, they agree that the matter can be resolved through the objective methods of science. (The Scientific Method, which queries through experimentation a universe "out there," embodies objectivity. Moreover, the replicability requirement assumes that the experimenter is fundamentally separable from the experiment-another version of objectivity.) In their quest for proof, Skeptic and researcher alike buy into one of the key assumptions of classical Newtonian-Cartesian physics.
It is perhaps no accident that having bought into a classical paradigm which also happens to deny the existence of psi, psi researchers find the phenomena strangely elusive in the laboratory. A saying goes, "The master's tools will never dismantle the master's house." Could it be that the very attitude of doubt, the very suspension of belief inherent in a controlled experiment, dilutes the power of the focused intention under study? By holding belief hostage to evidence, might we be cutting ourselves off from a vast realm of experience?
There are frequent hints in the psi research literature that this is indeed the case.[3] Pioneer J.B. Rhine emphasized the importance of the "experimenter effect" as early as the 1940's.[4] When Marilyn Schlitz, a leading psi researcher, invited psi skeptic Richard Wiseman to attempt to replicate her results using the same protocol and apparatus, he got chance – nothing. Then they performed a joint experiment in the same laboratory – again, she got statistical significance, he got chance.[5] Then there are innumerable cases of psychics being suddenly unable to perform in a lab or on national television. When entering these climates of attenuated belief, abilities that were dramatic in so-and-so's living room fade into borderline statistical significance, or fail to operate at all. In a recent talk Edgar Mitchell described how Uri Geller's profound telekinetic abilities were much less pronounced in the lab; of course, everyone knows that he could not perform on the Johnny Carson Show.
As we might expect, the above-described phenomenon is open to two interpretations that equally fit the evidence. Obviously, if psi does not really exist, it should be much more difficult to prove under rigorously controlled conditions. It would be harder to cheat. To say that the presence of a skeptic renders psi ineffective is, from the skeptic's point of view, an unfalsifiable proposition. To say that a particular person's ability only works at home is an unfalsifiable proposition – to anyone unable or unwilling to visit her at home. One might be able to verify it personally, but it cannot enter the literature of science. Similarly for an ability that only works under uncontrolled conditions – such an ability would be constitutionally impervious to the certainty that comes from control. And what of events that only happen when someone is alone and unmonitored?
In addition to the rather scattered evidence of an experimenter effect, many traditional paranormal techniques explicitly require an atmosphere of appropriate belief. To bend a spoon, you have to know that it will bend; to walk on water you have to know that you will not sink. The same principle seems to be at work behind the placebo effect, in which, notably, the physician's belief may be as important as the patient's (hence the necessity for double-blind, not just blind, studies). I am also reminded of a statement attributed to Cheng Man-ching, perhaps the 20th century's greatest Tai Chi master. When asked why none of his students of many decades came even remotely close to his level of attainment, he replied, "It is because you have no faith."
The experimenter effect and, more generally, the influence of a climate of belief upon measurable phenomena present a thorny problem for science, challenging not only its methods but some of its fundamental premises. At the same time, the principle of objectivity is crumbling from within science as well. In quantum mechanics, eighty years of interpretation has failed to resolve the measurement problem, while phenomena such as null measurements and the quantum Zeno effect demonstrate that observation can have a direct, intentional effect on measured reality. In neurology and psychology, consciousness is increasingly understood as an emergent phenomenon not localizable to a discrete observing "seat." Where is objectivity if there is no discrete subject? The contagion is affecting biology too, with the growing realization that the phenotypic definition of an organism neglects symbiotic relationships essential to its viability.
The crumbling of objectivity, and with it the certainty implicit in the Scientific Method, poses an enormous challenge to science. Perhaps this explains some of the hostility of establishment science toward psi. On some level, people realize that the ramifications extend far beyond "does it exist or not?" Increasingly, though, science will find it impossible to sweep the "paranormal" under the rug, if only because the classical intuitions that it challenges aren't working very well anymore, even within the mainstream. The challenge, then, is nothing less than to reconceive what science is in the absence of objectivity as an absolute principle. The crumbling of objectivity need not herald the end of science as we know it, for there is a spirit of science prior even to objectivity. It is the spirit of intellectual humility, the willingness to hold lightly onto ones beliefs. And this humility is no less valuable when we recognize that evidence may, in part, reflect belief.
If a state of belief is indeed a state of being, then genuine progress in science advances not only what we know, but who we are. It is no accident that the first Scientific Revolution is associated with the intellectual movement known as the Enlightenment. Could the present revolution in science foretell an equally dramatic change in the human condition? On the individual level too, experiences of anomalous phenomena are traditionally associated with a spiritual awakening; I would hazard that many of today's psi researchers would also associate their entry into the field with some kind of personal transformation.
The notion of growth, in beliefs and in being, offers an alternative to the ideology of objectivity and to the myth of the Scientific Method. A vast body of literature has long recognized that the Method does not describe how individuals actually practice science. Today, with the crumbling of objectivity, its collective validity comes under question as well. My classroom activity suggests an alternative. When faced with two logically consistent interpretations of the evidence, I choose the interpretation that is more consistent with who I am, and who I wish to be. The intellectual humility so fundamental to science represents a willingness to grow into a new set of beliefs. A proliferation of anomalies, whether in science or in life, signals that the old set of beliefs isn't working very well anymore, and that it is time to grow. In my classroom, the web of ad hoc explanations, the discounting of obvious sincerity, the cynicism, arrogance, and despair, were associated with a state of being that is not me anymore.
Collectively as well, our culture is rapidly growing toward a new state of belief and a new state of being. The classical mindset of the discrete observer seeking, as Descartes so famously put it, to become lord and possessor of nature, is now obsolete. Rooted in the illusion of separateness, this mechanistic, materialistic worldview has brought us to the brink of ecological ruin, for it implies, to quote Herman Daly, that "the natural world is just a pile of instrumental accidental stuff to be used up on the arbitrary projects of one purposeless species."[6] Yet for several centuries now, our culture has been founded on the discrete and separate self of Descartes, which is also the economic man of Adam Smith, the phenotype of biology, the embodied soul of religion, and the neutral observer of science.
Faced with a convergence of crises, humanity is being led into a more intimate relationship with nature, more connected, the subject/object distinction less clearly defined. The catchwords of the new era, words like interconnectedness and wholeness, bespeak this shift, which pervades fields as diverse as ecology, quantum mechanics, and Bayesian statistics. We are not separate from what we observe; our facts are not separate from our beliefs; perception and reality are intertwined. As the Age of Separation draws to a close, the old dichotomies are crumbling: man versus nature, matter versus spirit, self versus other. Phenomena like the experimenter effect in psi are merely tiny harbingers of a vast Gestalt, and by pursuing their study, we step across the threshhold of a new state of belief and of being that will come to define 21st century science.
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Footnotes:
[1] Monod, J.1972. Chance and necessity. New York: Vintage Books,pp. 172-173
[2] Bertrand Russell, "A Free Man's Worship", 1903. This essay has been reprinted in numerous collections of Russell's work.
[3] For a good (though somewhat dated) overview, see Kennedy, J.E. and Judith Taddonio. Experimenter Effects in Parapsychological Research. Journal of Parapsychology, 1976, volume 40, pp. 1-33.
[4] For example, see Rhine, J. B. Conditions favoring success in psi tests. Journal of Parapsychology, 1948, 12, 58-75.
[5] Wiseman, R. & Schlitz, M. (1997). Experimenter effects and the remote detection of staring. Journal of Parapsychology. 61,197-207.
[6] Quoted in Adbusters Magazine, Vol. 12, No. 5, September/October 2004. No page numbers are used.
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Honesty
"Do things happen for a reason, a purpose? Do we have a destiny? Is there a purpose to life beyond survival and reproduction, or its economic equivalent, the maximization of rational self-interest? The Skeptical mindset says no."
I disagree. The "Skeptical mindset" (a convenient straw man, but we'll pretend it exists for now) is perfectly comfortable with what is often the only honest answer: "I don't know."
As the great American humorist Josh Billings once said, "It's better to know nothing than to know what ain't so."
hmmm
hoopes,
I am glad you read charles' piece, but despite your comment, I feel that your own skeptic's viewpoint is mired in logical contradictions. I gave up on you when we went through our tribe discusson on the possible origin of the crop circles. It became clear to me during that discussion that there was absolutely no evidence of any sort that I could produce, or potentially could be produced by anyone, that would change your perspective. Since that is the case, in reality you are not a skeptic, but a believer - a believer in the doctrine of skepticism. I discuss this phenomenon in "2012".
I began my research for "Breaking Open the Head" as a hard-core secular materialist and a skeptic, but I was open to questioning my own skepticism. Using a process of reality testing over several years, I was forced, by rational self-examination, to shift my worldview to accept the existence of psychic phenomena. I ultimately realized my direct experiences contradicted the fundamental postulates of the materialist world view, that consciousness is a brain-based.
I've asked you this before, but I will ask again: What methodology would permit the possibility of shifting you from the "doctrine of skepticism," and if there is no way to make that shift, then your skepticism is not scientific but ideological.
"Will the transformation."-Rilke
Skeptical?
In the essay I took pains to distinguish between "Skepticism" as an ideology that actually invests in unquestioned assumptions about the nature of reality, and "skepticism" as a salutary intellectual humility. Maybe you missed that part. Anyway, in the final analysis "I don't know" is not a sustainable position. At some point we have to choose to believe something. My point is that this choice can never be made on evidence alone. Therefore the choice of belief is a creative choice -- it is a choice of who you will be, how you will interpret and respond to your experiences.
Charles Eisenstein
www.ascentofhumanity.com
Very nice
The slippery new paradigm...
This is a great piece! I've tried to express such thoughts before when debating with my more skeptically-minded friends and family. In the end, it is just another dogmatic belief system that gets in the way. (I have issues with hard-line atheists for the same reasons.)
Your analysis of a predisposed belief precluding or inviting anomalous events is intriguing, and something I feel is likely to be true. To take this one step further, I've noticed that recent stories of "unscientific" occurrences such as the dramatic O'Hare UFO sighting late in 2006, and the sudden crop circle appearance in Wiltshire this July, nearly captured on video, suggest another fascinating trend.
Both of these events took place in the presence of video-recording technology that might have offered significant evidence to support the eyewitnesses account. In the case of the crop circle formation, a bright flash of light is the last image recorded in the videographer's footage before the camera suddenly malfunctioned. In Chicago, numerous aviation professionals gave identical accounts of a hovering, spinning disc above a busy gate in daylight hours -- yet no video cameras managed to pan over the mystery craft.
It seems to me that these events are purposely skirting hard evidence, leaving the burden on each individual -- to choose to believe. We are being teased into a new paradigm. As the evidence grows more irrefutable, yet hangs just outside the realm of solid proof, it is indeed a choice to recognize it as reality and be awed, or to casually dismiss it, using any number of the methods you've described.
-st
UFO's in Japan
Looks like Japanese Chief Cabinet Secretary Nobutaka Machimura isn't so skeptical about UFO's
"...work should begin urgently to try to confirm whether or not they exist because of what he called "incessant" reports of sightings."
BBC article
taking liberty
the thread spoke of the "Skeptical mindset" with in the reality of a classroom and the method or style that a creative instructor takes to illustrate the various kinds to ways to begin to open up the constructs that we are subjected to by various forces that effect the way we see how these forces are moving in and around how we experience reality, the world at large, and in the intimate moments when the lines are blured.
As far as "It's better to know nothing then to know what ain't so" which, on the face of it cancels itself out, so we have a humorous response, because it also illustrates how people are in denial about denial, but on further reflection, we have to really think about what is nothing, because if you examine the word, you have to look at the context in which it is being used. for instance, we are told nothing, so how can we even begin to form a view on something? Or it implies that the something we are told is like nothing because upon reflection if we are honest about that we realize it is not so. or ain't so.
Or we can keep flipping that coin around until heads becomes tails, and call it, and heads you win and tails
I lose .
When Skeptics Attack...
nice
Yes, and at the same time, the denial of the new paradigm causes a build-up of pressure, only making it worse, so that when the shift happens the ones-now-on-the-top suffer the fall that they fear. Of course that will be only the case if some sort of large-scale awakening does take place. The "multitude" are not going to be thrilled to confront the data on climate change and electromagnetic radiation hidden from them by the oil companies and the telecoms with complicity of the corrupted government agencies, for instance.
"Will the transformation."-Rilke
today's thought
If you can be skeptical, and not just reactionary skeptic, sounds like scalpel, well, with a little imagination, or i could invoke occam's razor,the point being it is a sharp instrument, and it cuts through the bullshit, like Dali sliced that woman's eye in Un Chien Andalou, so we could see that it's all how you slice through the way you see things, a matter of perspective. But when you cut through you don't turn about and then pronounce that the implement used to cut through is the source of its utility.You don't proclaim, Hark! this knife is made of steel therefore steel is the meaning of all things.
But it seems that is how people think, it would seem that if you identify with the power, it dosen't matter that the power is a thing in it self.The question is not so much that "God does not play dice" Because when we get off in that metaphor, we either immediatly think about who said that, if that person is considered a scientific authority, or a religious authority, or a maker of bombs authority, but if i said that, a mere poet, people would say, ha, he is not making sense. Well, i am here to say that God does and does not play dice, and sometimes he plays with loaded dice...so there! but seriously, I was thinking about people that call themselves religious, and then they say, Hark! its like Steel.Wow jesus, its gets hard don't it? We have a Steel God that plays with dice not. well jeeze I am skeptical, I mean i was told that this dude went around healing people, the weak, the leper, the whore, the poor, the street freak, the people let out of luny bins,the dog, the cat, the creatures of the field, he wept tears of love.Oops! I am skeptical. Well, something is funny here, don't you think? But one thing i am certain of is that jesus had a wonderful childhood.After he dug on the animals in the manger, it was like he lived in perfect harmony with the sheep and the dogs and cats, and whatever animals they had in the manger, because immaculate conception, is a great concept. Oh I am skeptical.
Well excuse the heck out of me, no wonder people are fundamental mental, they just plum ran out of skeptical.I wonder how that happened, after all, we did have Einstien and Galileo,Beethoven,Big Bird, and Lenny Bruce, ah. who do we have now?
ah, the Quantum Surfer dude, that's who, and now for somethings completely viva la difference.
sheesh
I must be getting skeptical, mixed up with 'True Believer'
or is it cynical mixed up with nihilist? but since we are on this track, and we are talkin paradigm shifts, and things that otherwise mess with the masses, I mean it's not easy being Nietzsche, looking down that long abyssmal stretch of the imagination, seeing that shadow
cast by his words that were the paradigm shifter par excellence of his day. Nietzsche was beyond skeptical
because he saw beyond good and evil.Nuff.But what I mean to say is that there is some threshold of transformation that people with nervy imaginations see and they either put it into words by using various techniques that are availible to them, like psychic automatism or like Burroughs using 'cut up or Nietzsche using his packs of sentences that force you to make an eternal return of the same.It's the master game played with glass beads.But either way you are going to use parts of the brain that rarely get used, the idea being that some day we would all do this, without and interference of GOD(inc.), or you paint it on walls with hieroglyphic graffitti or you are painted by DNA snakes in the concrete jungle. Like hey, no shaman worth his salt would ever think that living in some gaudy mansion surrounded by cameras and electric wire, is where it's at.It's not like if we all just could have have the money of the top one % then we would rush to buy TV's as big as GOD or something.Sheesh!
see Buddha is BIG!!! and then there is the really BIG
BIG Buddha.OM MO.
Simply a matter of mental agility
The proponents of reason and logic are simply not all that reasonable and logical.
If one dares to take reason and logic all the way , beyond cultural and state-defined boundaries, one arrives at the undoing of reason and logic, like the new physics.
Cause/Effect
Off topic
Charles, I've sent messages to both of your email addresses (in answer to your question) with no response, as before.
The RS message server is peaking my CPU at 100%, creating pages of little message boxes below the main box, and locking up that iteration of IE v.7
So it's not that I havn't tried...
"If only I could remember the future"
"I Don't Know" is BETTER than belief
Eisenstein wrote...
> Anyway, in the final analysis "I don't know" is not a sustainable position.
"I don't know" is the most honest and inspiring position. It's frightening and humbling to recognize that this is what it means to be human in this world. We don't know where we came from, we don't know where we're going, we don't know why we're here, we don't know who we are.
To abandon "I don't know" is to embrace a dogma of some sort or another. No doubt belief is more comfortable than meeting the great mystery of this moment. No doubt that this comfort is what induces most of humanity to take refuge in this or that belief-system.
But for those of us who have had enough of following beliefs and ideas, there's always another alternative. It involves throwing away all these beliefs made by thinking, and perceiving the fresh, clear experience of this very moment, before doctrines, before beliefs, before thinking. The name for this is "Don't Know."
Stuart
http://stuart-randomthoughts.blogspot.com/
holding back
Stuart, I see your point and the humility you embrace. In my case, a few years ago I got tired of holding back from commitment. A belief need not be a dogma if we hold onto it lightly. Humility is to allow our beliefs to grow; it is not to believe in nothing. While the ideal of staying unattached might resonate with some spiritual teachings, ultimately I think we are here on earth to be attached, to have the full human experience of attachment and loss, rather than to remain aloof from it all. We are meaning-makers: in addition to the "fresh, clear experiences of the present moment" we incorporate those experiences into narratives, into stories, and through them we create our world.
Charles Eisenstein
www.ascentofhumanity.com
Hi Stuart,
I stumbled a bit on this quote as you did untill I thought about it more carefully...
“In the final analysis” – In the concluding examination of separate specific pieces of data
“I don’t know” – the prolonged suspension of belief
“is not a sustainable position” – cannot last indefinitely
If I’m close to the gist of Charles’ statement, I accept it as written because synthesis is a complementary tendency of human nature to analysis. Having read The Ascent with great enthusiasm, I respect the judicious suspension of belief that Charles needed to maintain until the sheer weight of his conclusions synthesized into the writing of his book. (Same goes for Ken Wilber) To Charles, and many other gifted artists, the prolonged suspension of belief cannot last indefinitely. The book, the song, the portrait, the dance, the play, the object must eventually be composed.
Your reaction (and my initial reaction):
“I don’t know” – The judicious suspension of belief
“is the most honest and inspiring position” – leads to continued honest evaluation.
If I’m close to the gist of your statement, I accept it as written because further analysis may lead to deeper truths than those revealed by others, and this continuing adventure is the essence of satisfying our particular curiosity.
An evolving intelligence carefully analyzes all data within the scope and focus if its curiosity, till it collapses into a genuine, and acceptable personal theory. Then, its focus shifts to another horizon, and the journey continues. I, for one, am trying to learn to balance myself on the shoulders of others, encouraging them to their tippy-toes. And one way I’ve found to accomplish this is to compliment, and encourage them. The taller they stand, the farther I can see.
"If only I could remember the future"
re: holding back
Many thanks for your reponse, Charles. You wrote:
We are meaning-makers: in addition to the "fresh, clear experiences of the present moment" we incorporate those experiences into narratives, into stories, and through them we create our world.
Yes, we create stories and meaning. Curiously, we sometimes forget that these stories are our own creation. We may start to believe that the stories we tell ourselves about the world are a substantial, external Truth.
Then sometimes we remember: Aha! That's just a story I've chosen to believe in!
Stuart
http://stuart-randomthoughts.blogspot.com/
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