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Squaring the Circle

Kal Cobalt
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In late July, a startlingly large crop formation was discovered near Wayland Smithy. The formation contains more circles than any discovered in the past seven years -- 73 main circles and 168 "grapeshot." The 241 circles form an unusually square formation which lends itself to a number of interpretations.

The Mayan interpretation in particular seems quite strong, leading mathematic researcher Chris Thomson to request "anyone with knowledge in this field to take my findings and try to relate them to the Maya and their mythology and mathematics."

Thomson's initial findings can be found in Crop Circle Connector's coverage (under "comments").

Image courtesy of Steve Alexander/Temporary Temples.

Comments

Could be atoms or subatomic particles

Submitted by scovert on Wed, 08/06/2008 - 19:51.
I'd dearly love to know if this arrangement of circles can be interpreted as a collection of atoms forming some kind of important molecule - or perhaps it's electrons, protons, neutrons, etc. - which would still amount to a multi-atomic (molecular) arrangement of some kind.

I'd also dearly love to know if any of the circle-fakers have been able to duplicate the inter-weaving patterns, weaves going one way on top of weaves going another way, bending without breaking, heat nodes etc.

2008 looks like a good season so far

Submitted by Student of Sophia on Thu, 08/07/2008 - 11:05.
I've been having weird dreams. In late July I had a dream that was so bizarre I can't describe it, incredible patterns and symbols flashing across the sky...and at the end they all came together to form a mandala and a mask. I got a very strong Mayan impression, and there was a voice. I wonder if it was around the same time this circle was made?

how to make a crop circle

Submitted by Daniel Pinchbeck on Sun, 08/10/2008 - 00:07.

 According to a somewhat belligerant circlemake, they are all made by people, and this is how.

 

"Will the transformation."-Rilke

hmm

Submitted by Kal Cobalt on Sun, 08/10/2008 - 03:31.

The frustrating thing about this guy is that he actually is presenting some reasonable information, albeit in an extremely abrasive manner. I remain wholly unconvinced that all formations can be explained via his method (for all the various reasons explored previously on RS), but he's got some fair points here.

I just wish that some people would understand that being belligerant isn't exactly the best way to win people over. That was very unpleasant to watch.

Shit vs Shinola

Submitted by Mr Mysterio on Mon, 08/11/2008 - 17:26.

 

Daniel Pinchbeck wrote:
According to a somewhat belligerant circlemake, they are all made by people, 

 

Fortunately, as I wrote on the DMT thread when discussing objective vs. subjective "experiences," one CAN tell the *difference* between shit and shinola, as Terance McKenna so eloquently put it some time ago.

 

If the hoaxer in the video were to be correct - not to say HIS crop formations are indeed FAKE and not made by supernatural means, just like there are others methinks that are really supernatural - then according to his logic, and as someone else pointed out on another website:

"If these crop formation instances weren’t genuine, then, following that logic there are hundreds of people involved including land surveyors, aerial observers (such as balloonists or microlite pilots), site organizers, logistics experts, vehicle operators and supports people. Plus LOTS of time to engage in this. All with the collusion of the farmers who are in on the hoax and who let the pranksters use their property to perpetrate the fraud on the public and the world."

Hmm. There are really none more blind (and deluded) than those who REFUSE to see.

Imagine though theTYPE of person one would have to BE to engaged in such a HOAX (making fake crop circles) and then claiming that supernatural phenomena (responsible for the real complex and intelligent designs) is not real! Wow. What a sorry ass "human" being this is... 

I am SURE this guy, if not a cointelpro agent, the he MUST be an Organic Portal.(No and's, if's, or but's in this instance fer sure). I mean, if it quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck, I can assure you it ain't no elephant...

"And because they cannot experience them, they deny their existence for everyone, including for those who are capable of “seeing” what the Organic Portal is incapable of seeing. In a materialistic world, where Organic Portals are in their Natural Element, and Souled Beings are NOT, with Organic Portal science drawing the boundary between what is true and what is false, there is no place for the Higher realms. It is “false” compared with the self-evident “truth” of materialism as experienced at all levels by the OP.

The Organic Portal in his role of scientists is bound to come to a materialistic explanation for the workings of the universe because that is all they know and are able to see.

This is very clear when we look at the question of consciousness itself. The answers are very revealing. (SNIP)

More: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_organic
portals02.htm

 

“The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance. It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge.” - Stephen Hawking

For Daniel

Submitted by Student of Sophia on Sun, 08/10/2008 - 01:32.
Here is a series of interviews with known circle-makers. As you will see, they are just as baffled as anyone else. The line between "hoax" and "genuine" is blurred. part 1: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-113360734554500603&ei=iFOcSJrrM... part2: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=183065277124868587&ei=iFOcSJrrMo... Many circlemakers are interviewed. Watch for commonalities in their testimonies.

I think all of us here

Submitted by sampmusical on Thu, 08/14/2008 - 03:41.
Presume some circles are fake, some are made by things that we do not know. But here is a "crop circle" that came to my head after reading Pinchbeck's book 2012. Don't know how it came to but it did and I spent over a week, 2 hours a day drawing it freehand. Its a large square, with a circle inside of it, with circles covering every empty bit of space, with a square inside the circle, and it keeps doing the same thing spiraling in to the center.

Another block

Submitted by RogerscottQ on Mon, 08/18/2008 - 00:08.

Potentially an imporant topic for deeper discussion, but at least one refers to something not everyone can see. So, without an ability to 'watch' or view video, comment becomes relegated to other comments.

Fine. I'm very much impressed by the drawing by sampmusical's 'drawing'. I'm also thinking that Daniel's comment here might have been intentionally 'sarcastic' and perhaps intended to convey 'as if!'

Again. I don't know, and can't know with the equipment I have.

I do know a little about geometry and the difficulties involved in producing pattern from just use of a straight-edge and a compass.

C'mon people! There are professionals out there who make a living just telling property-owners how to know a right-angle from a property-line screw in their side-walk! The deviation can mean huge differences between one party and another in civil courts and that thing called 'immenant domain' or 'ownership based on use'.

What I find amazing about these patterns is that assumption that some professionals or simply talented individuals in geometry would devote time away from more profitable adventures just to make us think 'aliens' are out and about.

It is much more likely that these things are part of a kind of disinformation campaign by people with too much money being wasted on them. And that is entirely a matter of political control.

Yet, I grant it possible that at least one of these patterns is really a manifestation from 'yonder' worlds, and I even have doubts about that: the 'yantra' in Eastern Oregon. Possibly 'channeled',possibly made by ambitious pranksters born right here on earth. Yet from people I've talked to: difficult to do with the stoney earth in which it is scratched. Also: the least discussed 'circle', 'square' and 'triangle' made thus far. The substrate is hard-pan, not wheat. Observed first by the National Guard, and no 'track' to the phenomenon was seen. This 'circle' is the least commented upon, and yet poses greater questions. I was impressed.

We once saw footage provided by 'Sightings', produced by "Fonzi" from "Happy Days", that showed lights floating over a field and an instantaneous development of 'circles'. And after that: nothing. That, alone, is odd.

Information appears and disappears on the internet. But some of us have memory that includes sources more lasting: people. And some of them wont talk in this 'medium'. Why? Too liable to extraneous editing. To liable to being made into a lie. I'm not even sure what I write here will be con

whoops

Submitted by max.dragon on Sat, 09/13/2008 - 20:42.
whoops

spinning out

Submitted by max.dragon on Sat, 09/13/2008 - 20:36.
Somewhere, I remember seeing a photo of a crop circle rotating or spinning . The moment I saw this pattern I thought "what would it look like spinning ?Does anyone have the ability to show us that ? MAXD I'm not completely insane ,parts of me are still missing!