A Spill That's Not an Accident?

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Why are Obama and BP CEO Tony Hayward taking vacations while 25,000 to 30,000 barrels of oil a day continue to flood the Gulf of Mexico?  Is it just dumb luck that Halliburton bought Boots & Coots, a company whose job it is to control oil well explosions, just days before the disaster?  Why are BP Contractors and the US Coast Guard blocking state and local clean-up efforts?

What is the real reason that the US government has refused help from 13 countries who have the know-how and technology to stop the oil spill?  Is it a mere coincidence that Goldman Sachs sold $250 million in BP stocks right before the spill? Or that BP CEO Tony Hayward sold millions as well?  And what does this all have to do with the BP lobbied carbon tax?

Based on these few compelling questions, Paul Joseph Watson of PrisonPlanet.com is urging states to launch a criminal investigation into BP and the US goverment's role in the oil spill and botched clean-up efforts.

 

Story suggested by Camron Wiltshire. 

Images: 'Oil Spill Spreads 'and 'BP Oil Spill Is Global' by Mike Licht, NotionsCapital.com on Flickr, courtesty of Creative Commons

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Wake up!!

I would consider the "spill" a timely event to push the ever tightening band around humanity's head to finally snap... now more than any other time in recent (5000 years) history, those who would wish to submit to evil intent in order to control food (consequently humanity), have at their disposal a veritable arsenal of ideas, memes, images and unimaginable cultural weapons (TV, movies, internet) to further encase the globe in a blizzard of lies, disinformation and jingoisms lending credence to the horrible story they wish to see made real. JUST WHAT IS THIS STORY????? Please keep asking this seminal question over and over until you can glimpse the answer, then throw off the chains of logos, damn the greyfaces and continue to seek out the other stories being lived on the planet at this time, here and now. Evil and good are both calling loudly now...aren't they? P.S. for a good read see Naomi Klein's "Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism"

theory2...


"Extraordinary claims and SUGGESTIONS require extraordinary evidence."

 

Agreed. So how about that whole bs climate change situation? Definitely some Extraordinary claims being bandied about there.  Not so much extraordinary evidence I must say.

 

So anyway to stay somewhat on topic.

 

"And a third possibility is that Halliburton's analysts looked at how ill-managed or badly constructed certain oil rigs were -- BP certainly KNEW" 

 

They most certainly would know not just because of financial analysis of profiting from inevitable disaster, but because they were actually working on the platform 20 HOURS BEFORE IT CRACKED!!! (using your all cap technique, hope you don't mind)

 http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/greenspace/2010/04/gulf-oil-spill-the-halliburton-connection.html

Investigators delving into the possible cause of the massive gulf oil spill are focusing on the role of Houston-based Halliburton Co., the giant energy services company, which was responsible for cementing the drill into place below the water. The company acknowledged Friday that it had completed the final cementing of the oil well and pipe just 20 hours before the blowout last week.   

Just a bit too coincidental for me.  Call me a conspiracy theorist (rather than imagining that those in power would ever conspire to stay in power) but in an age where steel framed structures collapse at free fall speeds without being struck by planes (Building 7) The Pentagon can be struck by a "plane" witnessed by over 80 CCTV cameras and the only released footage looks nothing like an airliner and leaves no evidence of a plane ever striking the building, and 2 elections can be stolen outright in the Land of the free and mainstream media doesn't bat an eye. I would say it would be less likely that this is an accident giving all of the surrounding information and no matter what that it requires a real investigation and criminal prosecution for those responsible. 

 

 

But feel free to continue offering apologia for the powers that be regardless of how scandalous, painful, or completely misguided their actions are. 

 

I'm sorry I just don't have as much compassion for Rapist War Profiteers as you do.

 

 

 

  

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"An Elephant Never Forgets...."

Red Herrings and Diversionary Tactics

What is in fact extraordinary, is the cognitive dissonance you display, and your ability to compartmentalize certain facts (the ones which work for maintaining your paradigm) while dismissing outright those which challenge it.

For example.

You will try to hone in on the potentially weakest argument (as you see it)  while not answering questions which bring all of your assumptions into a different light or larger context.

I will start with 9/11.

You never answered any of my previous posts regarding the forensic science which is being amassed by thousands of non-partisan independent scholars. 

Scholars who have risked their careers to speak out on what is the crime of the century and the precedence for the complete erosion of constitutional law and protection for US Sovereigns. Not to mention the murder of 1million plus innocent Iraqi and Afghani citizens.  (*And every time I bring up courageous action you mock it, this is again is very telling of your attitude towards brave souls who answer conscience and not politics for their guide)

This is because you don't care to look yourself.  This is because you don't want to know the truth and are fighting to stay asleep.  You are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.  The facts have been laid out clearly here.   http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8182697765360042032#

Entertain the reality of False Flag attacks,  of government's willfully manipulating their populations to achieve the ends of war-profiteers and the military industrial complex.  And then ask yourself is it really much of a stretch to imagine that BP/Halliburton/US Gov't.  May have had some complicity in this ecological disaster?  Or that there should be at least a Criminal Investigation??  Also it is very noteworthy that in Obama's oval office broadcast  who used this crisis as a way to try to usher in the "green econonmy" initiative even though along the lines of The Shock Doctrine it is already proving to be a death sentence for any economies which attempt this conversion (spain has 20% unemployment, losing 2.2 jobs for every green job created)

So after you have taken the time to watch this.  Would you therefore label the Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth Conspiracy Theorists?

"And yes, I DO call people such as yourself ``conspiracy theorists'', because that's what you are." 

Is this how you deal with anyone who disagrees with you?  Rather than actually logically considering whatever is presented you continually turn into a one man spin machine and attempt to muddy up the waters of whatever conversation is taking place. (Anyone who doesn't believe me just look at his posting record)  

 

All that is happening here is people are asking questions (Freedom of Speech) and deciding what must be done with the facts emerging.  Also you supplying BP and Halliburton press releases (damage control) does not really satisfy the questions or concerns of those who have had their lives permanently altered and may be developing the seeds of cancer while having their lifestyles destroyed by these entities.  I appreciate different perspectives and don't mind devil's advocacy.  Yet you take it a step further in your need to slander anyone you disagree with all without being willing to look at what is actually being presented. 

 

Now you brought up the "Birther Conspiracy" as a way to insinuate anyone who actually does research into this must be "crazy".

Hawaii elections clerk: Obama not born here

Official who oversaw ballots in 2008 race says hospital birth certificate non-existent

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=165041

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMUiLjBRIao

 

Here are 2 small snippets of information.  Can you refute any of these? Are you an elections official?  Are you Obama's Grandmother who says she say Obama being born in Kenya?  These are serious questions and bringing up Holocaust denial again as a way to insinuate some relationship to Obama not being a registered US. Citizen is very telling of your diversionary tactics.  Next you will be labeling me a racist or an anti-semite.  Is Alan Keyes rascist for questioning the legitimacy of Obama's presidency?  http://loyaltoliberty.blogspot.com/2009/02/obama-threatens-keyes-and-other.html

You can't answer most of what is brought up so you choose the one issue which is most likely to cause a knee jerk reaction of dismissal.  A knee jerk reaction that is based on emotional response, not research and not logic.

And here is another piece of information that is not allowed into "polite conversation" or the mainstream media. http://theblogprof.blogspot.com/2010/03/chicago-law-school-faculty-hated...

The difference is people like Alex Jone's will create a space for all conversations to be heard.  He will bring on detractors so that he can question them one on one.  When do you ever see this in mainstream media?  There is a reason they don't allow Alex on mainstream tv. Because he sees the emperor is ass naked and is brave enough to speak of it.  (yes I know you will type an all caps dismissal of how brave he is, I attended grade school before, your tactics are identified)

I've already given you plenty of information to chew on.  Take your time, let it digest and decide if what you bring up as derision is actually more evidence for presenting the reality of the brave new world we inhabit now.

Also if you want more respect you may want to stop e-yelling (just because you say it's for emphasis doesn't mean it isn't yelling). People will be much more likely to her you if you are more polite to them.

Peace in the Middle East

 -Nano (The Nano Thermitic Pink Elephant) Google Nano Thermite 911

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

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E Same Tactics

 and a few other ``debunker'' websites.  I have studied some of the arguments on both sides, but this is not what I would call a ``thorough investigation''.  There are only so many hours in a day... and I can only read so fast, and watch so many videos. (Blueprint for Truth is 2 hours long)  And you seem to be red-hot with almost religious fervor about the issue.  Be advised that I will look into it in due course... and when I do, I will not hesitate to rip you a new asshole if you go around parading false claims.  (Um ok dude, guess you will actually have to watch the video first huh?  The rest is just your E-courage speaking loudly, flailing as though drowning in your own excuses.  The video is right there for you anytime. Here let me make it easier for you so you really have no excuse.  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8182697765360042032#.  
There ya go.  Take your time with it.  You don't have to watch or understand it all in one sitting.  

I will make it real real easy for you ESam. I know that is how you want your world to keep tumbling along.  No big worries.  You can continue to masturbate publicly with your transparent tactics or you can actually sit down and produce some actual evidence.

I didn't say Loose Change did I.  (It is a good intro point though)

I said the forensic science of "Blueprint for Truth"  anytime you want to debunk that you just let me know.  Also you are welcome to make the conference call and speak directly with any of the brave men and women working for them anytime you like. (They have one a week)

Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth
2342 Shattuck Ave., Suite 189
Berkeley, CA 94704
Phone: (510) 292-4710 

And saying you are going to debunk something is very different than doing it.  I posted refutals of your diversionary tactics and you haven't answered one.  So stop crowing and start showing.

You can even start with what you saw as a red herring (Birther Movement) I will give you the best shot first.  Good luck.  Here is the thing (and I know you won't do this) you actually have to let the information sink in.  You have to actually consider what the other side is saying and refute it based on evidence.  Not hearsay and not slander (your favorite projectile tactic)

The # is right there for you buddy.  You are welcome to step up and debate any expert you like. No one is hiding.

 You can also call Alex Jone's and bring to his attention or any of his expert guests your perspective.  It's rather easy to get on the show.

And of course you could take any number of steps if you really want to know what the "other" side is saying.

 And of course you will be occupied so take your time and just know I will be waiting to call out any lies or deception I see you peddling.

You have run away from every significant challenge anyone has brought to your doorstep on every blog you have commented on here.  Other people here have called you out and presented counter evidence (Especially on 9/11 and you simply dismiss any threat to your perspective as "conspiracy theory" or you just don't do the research.

for example someone supplied you with a link to debunking 911 debunkers and you had zero response again.   

I challenge you to actually walk your talk and debate an expert since you know so much.  You give AE911Truth Architect or Engineer  a call, or why not write a counter proposal to any of the immense data collected, analyzed, peer reviewed and available for the whole world to see??

 

Also if you are in Atlanta anytime soon you can meet Dr. Bob Bowman and ask him personally any questions you like about 9/11 Truth.

He will be there July 14th to kick off his US Tour. I would be more than happy to supply you with the address and times. 

 

A little Bio on Dr. Bowman

Robert M. Bowman (born 1934) is a former Director of Advanced Space Programs Development (STAR WARS) for the U.S. Air Force in the Ford and Carter administrations, and a former United States Air Force Lieutenant Colonel with 101 combat missions. He holds a Ph.D. in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering from the California Institute of Technology.
Bowman, the father of Robert M. Bowman, Jr., is the founder and Presiding Archbishop of the United Catholic Church, an "independent Catholic fellowship" created in 1996 and held to be connected throughapostolic succession to the Old Catholic Church.[1] Additionally, he is Executive Director of Christian Support Ministries.[2] Bowman is a prominent figure in the 9/11 Truth Movement.[3] 

So again if you care to know (your behavior says otherwise) you can find the time to meet Dr. Bowman personally as he is on tour of the US just so that he can reach out to his fellow countrymen and women with the real state of affairs from his insider perspective.

Now if you try to diminish this man's pedigree or resume (which I suspect you will) (It's always easier to slander than think) It will just let everyone know that you most likely are a narc (I wrote a very thorough explanation why I suspected as much in a different blog post).

You can find out when he will be coming to your town here.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=122464337785296&ref=mf 

Why not go there, shoot a video of you questioning him and then upload it for everyone to see?  I'm sure no one in the movement minds being questioned.  That is what the establishment does, shoot down anyone who asks pointed questions, demonize them, ignore them. 

For example

You essentially employ the same tactics on every issue you pretend to debate.

 

So just tell me how does Building 7 fall into it's own footprint at freefall speeds?  Without being struck by a plane?  From office fires??  Just start there ESam.

And you can say whatever you want about me I don't care.  You don't know me and you are just avoiding sticking to the facts of the matter. You want this to become an emotional exchange rather than a rational one because you know in a logical discussion you will not prosper.

 

And one more tidbit in regards to something becoming NEWS because a big corporation says so.

Few people are aware of how concentrated the ownership of mainstream US media is. With just five mega-corporations controlling virtually the entire media world, it is likely that many Americans can go an entire week and not encounter a book, magazine, newspaper, song, movie, greeting card, video game, radio program or TV show that did not issue from one of those five corporations. It is possible for people to believe they have been exposed to a broad range of ideas, since they read, watch and listen to what seems to be a wide variety of sources. They may never notice the ideas that are missing — the topics which will never appear in a movie at the multiplex, or in a major daily newspaper. There is the appearance of diversity masking actual uniformity.  http://911blogger.com/node/23045 

Good luck debunking Richard Gage and The Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth.  Just so you know name calling will probably not get you far. You will have to produce scientific refutation and vet your information with the established laws of physics.

 

-Nano (Google NanoThermite 911) 

 

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"Extraordinary claims and

"Extraordinary claims and SUGGESTIONS require extraordinary evidence."

To suggest that Haliburton, BP, or any other corporate / government bureaucracy  would willfully conspire to increase profit, power and control is NOT an extraordinary claim at all. Maybe for you it is. But for many of us, we see it as par for the course these days. False flag operations have been employed for centuries in order to gain and economic leverage. It's nothing new.

I'm not saying that I fully subscribe to the idea that this is the case with the leak. But I'd be more surprised to find out that this is just an accident than I would be to find out that it was in fact a coordinated effort .

peak oil proactivity

cause a disaster, make oil more scarce and harder to drill for and what does this equation produce? a premeditated, premature peak petroleum price! presto, all the world is a stage. take a look at the magicians, they are laughing at you through the tube. "in order for there to be order... there must first be disorder"

Why

Hi Marisa, I find the tone of this piece unnecessarily strident. I would have made it more in the line of, "a number of conspiracy theories on the oil spill are currently gaining traction around the Internet," then mentioned them (including the weird Expolitics view that the spill is meant to prevent disclosure!). I think this piece as it stands forfeits credibility. There are always extenuating circumstances. BP is a huge company- I imagine their stock is often bought and sold in large blocks. Etc. When we don't really know, we should tread a bit carefully, and provide the tools for people to consider alternatives without becoming tabloidy and sensationalist ourselves. How do you know that Prison Planet isn't purveying disinformation designed to put people into a panic and assist an Anti-government, anti-Obama far right libertarian agenda? That's what I get from them and I don't consider PP a credible source.

"Will the transformation."-Rilke

 

RE: Why

Dear Daniel,

I would appreciate if you and others who are of the opinion that prison planet is not a reputable news source would provide some evidence to back up these assertions.  Can you imagine if I were to make the same accusation of RS? I imagine you would want me to have some evidence to support my claims or I would be seen as simply slandering the good work that is done in good conscience here.


I have heard Charles Shaw as well on RS claim that he believed Alex Jones was a C.I.A disinformation agent.  I appreciate Charles' writing but when I asked for clarification for his accusations beyond anectdotal opinon no evidence or response was forthcoming.

I also take issue with suggesting that prison planet is "purveying disinformation designed to put people into a panic and assist an Anti-government, anti-Obama far right libertarian agenda?That's what I get from them and I don't consider PP a credible source."

Again I find it interesting that a conspiracy must be brought up to explain your personal opinion of what infowars.com or prisonplanet's intentions are as a whole. 

If you would be willing to provide the evidence for your perspective I and many others woudl appreciate this type of investigative journalism in place of labeling their work as "disinformation or conspiracy"

I think this would make for an excellent blog post from you or anyone on RS and instead of finding fault and pointing out or differences, what if we actually foster communication between these to revolutionary and evolutionary portals.

I think it is high time we actually hear what each other is saying and bridge our worlds.

As far as being "Anti-Government or Anti-Obama"

Bascially the issue is one of Freedom.  Does the government or any other authoritarian body have the right to deny you or any other soverign human being the rights afforded to them by god, the bill or rights or the constitution?  

Does the Government or any employees of the government such as Obama have the right do scuttle the constitution at will and avoid checks and balances by invoking Executive privilege?

It would seem obvious to me that the intention of the framers of the constitution was to limit the power of government and ensure that they were simply a means of enabling the will of the people. This is precisely what most libertarians (the real one's) desire and are fighting for.

The mainstream media is doing everything in their power to stymie dissent, marginalize any challenges to the status quo and demonize anyone who invokes the rule of law via the bill of rights and the Constitution.  They are using the tried and true method of slave owners throughout time.  Divide and conquer.  They want us to fight amongst ourselves and not understand who is really running the show or how behind the curtain.

To this effect Alex Jones has done so much incredible work to open the eyes of the world to the reality of our "governance" "govern ment" (Govern = Control Ment(al) = Mind)  Elitist and secret societies are now out in the open because of his work.  The reality of false flag attacks as admitted by our government (Operation Northwoods) are now finally becoming part of the average American's consciousness.  The truth of the inner workings of the Federal Reserve foreign bank cartel's stranglehold on American independence as well as the covetous desire for "Cap and Trade" to be enacted regardless of the "merit" of the science it is based on are all issues brought to the light by Alex Jone's and prison planet.

I think they deserve a fair shake considering they have risked so much to discuss what mainstream media (most alternative/progressive forms as well) won't touch.

I challenge you and anyone else from RS to spend the time researching the material brought forth by Alex Jones and if you are able to uncover the "conspiracies or disinformation" you allude too then I will surely respect your willingness to produce a more scientific refutation beyond personal opinion.  If you are willing to engage directly in a dialog with anyone whose research you take issue with that of course would be most optimum for all parties getting closer to the truth.

 A few key topics to consider for this are

9/11 Truth and False Flag attacks.

The Federal Reserve System

"Climate Change & Cap and Trade"

The Left/Right Paradigm duopoly party system. 

etc.

Thank you for creating RS.  I thouroughly enjoy the site and the opportunity for these types of conversations to take place.

I appreciate your work and know you are in earnest.  Yet there comes a time when we all most revisit our perspective of self and other and be willing to question what we think we know to be true.

Best wishes always

 

-Nano (The Nano Thermitic Pink Elephant) 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: What do you think?

 "Daniel is far too busy to waste his time on such nonsense. What we really need here is a Michiko Kakutani"http://www.slate.com/id/2139452

Why don't you let Daniel speak for himself and remove your nose from his ass?

"The late Susan Sontag complained, "Her criticisms of my books are stupid and shallow and not to the point." Salman Rushdie referred to her as "a weird woman who seems to feel the need to alternately praise and spank." Most notoriously, last year Norman Mailer called Kakutani, who is of Japanese descent, a "one-woman kamikaze" and a "token" minority hire."

Obviously this is who you would want to review anyone.  Did you even read this link before you posted it?  It makes her out to be a shill..

 

Now you brought up the "Birther Conspiracy" as a way to insinuate anyone who actually does research into this must be "crazy".

Hawaii elections clerk: Obama not born here

Official who oversaw ballots in 2008 race says hospital birth certificate non-existent

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=165041

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMUiLjBRIao

 

Here are 2 small snippets of information.  Can you refute any of these? Are you an elections official?  Are you Obama's Grandmother who says she say Obama being born in Kenya?  These are serious questions and bringing up Holocaust denial again as a way to insinuate some relationship to Obama not being a registered US. Citizen is very telling of your diversionary tactics.  Next you will be labeling me a racist or an anti-semite.  Is Alan Keyes rascist for questioning the legitimacy of Obama's presidency?  http://loyaltoliberty.blogspot.com/2009/02/obama-threatens-keyes-and-other.html

You can't answer most of what is brought up so you choose the one issue which is most likely to cause a knee jerk reaction of dismissal.  A knee jerk reaction that is based on emotional response, not research and not logic.

And here is another piece of information that is not allowed into "polite conversation" or the mainstream media.http://theblogprof.blogspot.com/2010/03/chicago-law-school-faculty-hated... 

 Here is an idea.  Just because a mainstream blog or magazine doesn't carry a story does not mean the story isn't official.  That is pre web thinking.  I suggest you upgrade your specs.

 

-Nano (The Nano Thermitic Pink Elephant)

 

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"An Elephant Never Forgets...."

Prison Planet

Although it's off topic from the article, I would like to answer your question about Prison Planet. I teach Media Literacy, which means I teach people how to identify qualities that lend credibility to media. This is a critical skill in our time!

The first question in determining media credibility is the "who." Prison Planet is purchased and copyrighted by Alex Jones. A little research reveals that he has his own radio show, he once ran for office as a Republican in Texas and he is not college educated. Also that he is thought of as a conpsiracy theorist by his peers.

The other part of "who" is to examine the "friends" of the site - you can tell a lot about a person by the folks he or she hangs out with, right?  So who supports the site with their advertising budget?  Alex Jones' own show has a strong showing, as you would expect. DVD producers for shows like "The Fall of America" and "Obama Deception" are advertising on the sides, along with T-shirts and items from infowars.com. Links are all to infowars, as well. Infowars seems to be another Alex Jones site, with slightly more inflammatory material on it, and lesser known writers. 

Besides this, there are no other sites on the links button. Take what you will from this; I might assume that others are not associated with Alex Jones, or don't want to be. If prisonplanet were a person, I'd assume he was a loner - didn't have many friends.

The next part of media literacy is the "why" factor. Why does the site exist? Media makers don't make media to amuse themselves; all media is constructed for a reason - to sell you something. So what is Prisonplanet trying to sell? Prison planet contains a collective of information from a variety of sources - some of them mainstream media (Washington Post, CNN), some of them by opinion writers or the site's own writers. Scanning the titles, it would seem the site's overall purpose is a political agenda, since the subject of the articles leans toward the political. A credible website will usually have an "About" section, with information as to the purpose, but not always. We can assume that the creators of this media have a political agenda in mind,  and that is the primary purpose for creating it. If this is true, then decide from the content of the articles themselves what slant of politics the site is selling. If you agree with it, you will keep coming back.

If we don't learn to analyze media before placing much credence in its validity, we are allowing ourselves to be manipulated. Media Literacy was first realized after the fall of Hitler, when the Germans decided not to be fooled again. The U.S. could sure use some media literacy now.

So, pinkelephant, to answer your question, the way to judge a website is to step back and take a look at it carefully. Who created it? Who is that person or group? What is their purpose and what are they selling? What company is it keeping?

After having taken an objective look at the site, do you really place a lot of credibility in it? Or does it offer opinions that you like? 

I really don't have an interest in what you think of the site; I'm simply offering an answer to your question. Some evidence that the site isn't that credible would be that professional or even other independent news organizations are not affiliated with it, that the author of the site has no educational background, and seems to have a reputation for being a conspiracy theorist. His own writers seem to have a political slant that is aligned with his. The articles on the site are not balanced articles; most slant distinctly in one direction. The site seems to be selling a fearful political slant.

You asked for evidence; there it is. Take it or leave it.

And to anyone who takes the time to read my ranting about media literacy, take time to determine the credibility of any site you find on the internet; what's right for some of us isn't for others; make a conscious, informed choice before buying anyone else' ideas. Clearly, pinkelephant likes what Prison Planet is selling; others do not. Buy what you want, believe what you want, but do so mindfully.

Uh..

How is asking questions being "tabloidy" and sensationalist? Whether or not you consider Prison Planet to be a reliable source of information, Goldman Sachs and BP CEO Tony Hayward DID sell off a ton of their stock before the spill and Haliburton DID make an unlikely purchase of a clean up company before the spill. Alex Jones is not pulling this out of his ass. I'm not saying he's right all the time but if you watch his oil spill presentation and source what he's saying, you'll find that it is far from "disinformation". Considering the surreal amount of corruption in our government these days, I think these are legitimate questions worth investigating.

Re: But is it...

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0sQroiCYNc

here ya go buddy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxqP1O1_K4w&feature=related

 

And what happens when you remember the constitution in the sad state of America today. You are arrested.

 

 

 

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Media blackout?

Regardless of what theory you might like to believe, *something* strange is most definitely going on down there.

 

Check out what happens when a tv reporter goes down to interview the workers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZHnStD690U

 

Kinda makes you wonder what they are hiding, that they need such airtight security and absolute secrecy...

perceptions

Our perception of reality will destroy us.

Answer to your questions.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DlTgrMCxPg

 

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Ya know!!!

maybe this isn't the right story to post at but so often I never hear much about the one fucking thing that matters most regardless of which way any of this goes and I agree and disagree with all of you, (deep, very long breath) it's not really a fucking thing though I may be no one but I am slowly remembering who I am and the only thing constant in all this for me is light which for me translates to LOVE, I can't always see it but I know it's there and in the darkest moments of my life of recent times I keep that in mind, I may have nothing to do but sit with it but pain passes, fuck these bastards and stop participating in their game of genocide I don't recall anyone saying this life would be easy, but it is a choice, you can overcome the prison and remember or you can kill yourself in infinite number of ways choose life and walk it, let go let go let go, open, open, open your eyes who am I? Another brother and I struggle with this everyday, phew! night everyone-peace-Chris

Petroleum petroleum, a prophecy (1903)

(the same I wrote on Evolver btw..) An austrian writer, occultist, banker, member of the Golden Dawn London Gustav Meylink wrote in 1903 a short story called Petroleum Petroleum: 'A prophecy' a story that handels about a kinda terrorist attack in the Mexican Gulf. Gigantic oil spills in the sea and in less than 30 weeks all the oceans are covered with a thin layer of oil which results in no water vaporisation and therefor no more rain > huge droughts > crop failure > ... Some of you might be interested reading Gustav Meylink Petroleum Petroleum

Terrence McKenna on conspiracy theory

I think that conspiracy theory is a very disempowering thing...My experience with the corridors of power, if you want to put it that way, is that there are an immense number of clueless people. It's almost like McKenna's Law:  it's that  as you advance in the social hierarchy the percentage of smart people does not increase. - Terrence McKenna, Psychedelic Salon Podcast 203, Appreciating Imagination, Part 3.

I am very puzzled by the popularity of conspiracy theory.  It seems to me it must just indicate a paranoid tendency in the population because what I see is the more you aspire to control, the more frustrated and maddened you must be by the situation....  I think that no one is in charge, and that this is a very good thing because it allows the internal dynamic of the situation to express itself.  Everybody who wants to control the situation is fighting a losing battle and if you bank with chaos, your stock just keeps growing exponentially. - Terrence McKenna, Psychedelic Salon Podcast 203, Appreciating Imagination, Part 3.

RE: Terrence Mckenna and Conspiracy Theory

I think "consipracy theory" is disempowering in our ignorance of it's reality. "I am very puzzled by the popularity of conspiracy theory" Let me ask you. Do you not believe that people in power conspire to stay in power? Regardless of whatever metaphysical systems we ascribe too we are still part of this Earth and it's politics. I think it is high time we become better integrated spiritual warriors. Intellectual arguments which support non-action, non-participation are sadly too frequent here on RS. I wonder often if the community spent as much time in service to others as they sought seeking personal transcendence through various forms of chemical exploration if we would not expedite the shift we desire so much. In equal amounts this may be the chemistry required to unleash the bodhisattva within us all. Yes it is important to transcend and heal one's self to avoid bringing your own pain/confusion into the feedback loop of reality. Yet the work of chopping wood and carrying water is proof that the self healing/knowledge of yourself has set in and that you are going to embody your truth. Transmuting knowledge into wisdom. Translating love/awareness into action. I appreciate the founders of this site for surely enabling these types of philosophic musings to be housed requires tremendous dedication, financing and constant labor. To this I say Thank You, You Are Appreciated. I look forward to working with you all to uncover those who would do us harm and succeed by the degree we ignore (root word of ignorance) their machinations and our place in enabling them via our lack of awareness. We need not look to deep into recent history to see evidence of ignorance allowing horrific actions to take root and play out destructively (Good germans ignoring the build up of the third reich) The notion of "a good German", one who ostensibly was not to blame for allowing Hitler to persecute the Jews and others, and who did not see the Holocaust as it occurred before his eyes. Thematically, the film centers on guilt, and whether it is possible to survive the atrocities while being unaware of and not complicit in them." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Good_German I hope that soon we may be aware of the venomous creatures which inhabit our space. We need not fear them, just identify them and know their techniques, habitats and desires. In becoming aware we are on the path to immunity. Thank you -Nano

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"An Elephant Never Forgets...."

Spirited

Thank you to everyone here for this spirited discussion.  I've always apreciated Reality Sandwich as forum for just this - a place where "reality" (what it is, who controls it, why, how, what the??!!) is fair game for personal and colletive interpretation.  Being myself not very fluent in conspiracy theories, I don't have much to contribute to this flow, but I would like to comment to Daniel that your criticism of my news short feels more like a high noon hanging of the messanger than a pinch!  Please remember, Brother - the story, and link to Prison Planet, was suggested by your reader and approved and posted by your editor...

Now, back to my less sensational life...I've got an Evolver Spore on Aliens to host tomorrow, minus any tabloidly influences of course. 

Cheers! 

 

"I'm not going to respond to

"I'm not going to respond to the 9/11 stuff... I'm staying away from that, so as not to (a) waste more time than I have (reading blogs, watching videos, etc.), and (b)  it's too close to politics -- I'm on a politics diet now."

 

How convenient.  I would imagine you can't afford the shock to your psyche.  You don't want to know.  Just be honest.

 

Or if your brave enough for the red pill here it is.

Blue Print For Truth. 

 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8182697765360042032 

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"An Elephant Never Forgets...."

Much like the stock airline

Much like the stock airline sales, insurance ruses, and other iniquitous financial shuffling we saw just prior to 9/11. Consciousness is rising. Very insightful post. Thank you fellow thinkers. For more insight on the guises of the Annunaki and their earth-bound royal demigods, and the contemporary streams of their fascist New World Order realization, please see my website below. Sai Ram. We will get through this. All is Creation unfolding. Jay Van Liere anthrognosis.blogspot.com

and so the cycle goes

as it appears to me, the only conclusive abstraction from this article and discussion is that the Tower is alive and well, and quite possibly starting to sway...

e.sam and pinkelephant with their respective intelligence seem to have come no closer to understanding through this exercise...each has their babble and their sticking to it (and for good reason too!! :)

as I see it, the important question (and lesson) regarding this Oil Spill in the Gulf of Mexico and conspiracy is: How do we prevent the inquiry and activism regarding this most tragic event from taking a similar course as 9/11? It appears to me blatantly obvious that 9/11 truth (as a movement) has been unfortunately marginalized, ineffective, and largely forgotten. Outplayed at every turn so to speak. Truth or not, it seems to me, sadly, to hold no weight in the collective perception.

Perhaps not taking the "conspiracy route" too soon could be a remedy. If there has been some closed door ecocide event planning, the details will continue to seep through the cracks. We should be patient and hesitant to take this route though.

The larger and more important perception shift that the spill can effect is that of our relationship to the earth. In that sense, like other stories on RS and elsewhere have noted, the spill may ultimately be some tough love for humanity, and a facilitator for change.

On the issue of Alex Jones, disinfo or freedom lover, etc...this is really my main complaint. His vision consists only of the negative half. Part of this is no doubt due to his energetic planetary type, but his failure to be cognizant of this hinders his ability to see the whole picture - most notably, the positive implications and possibilities of a New World Order. His perspective is, in my mind, irrelevant simply because it is not large enough, that is, he does not make efforts to integrate the whole of humanity into his vision of freedom, or, if you like, he is a nationalist to a fault. That said, he is also merely playing his role - and he is quite good at it, and I thank him for some of what he has done.