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Six Degrees to Disaster

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In December 2009, the United Nations will meet for the Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen for what could be the "last chance" to stabilize climate temperature. The world's leaders hope to thwart what could be a catastrophic rise in temperature. Scientists are now saying that we are fast approaching a 6°C rise in temperature, surpassing the two degree rise that was predicted would disastrously alter our society.

With the rise in China's industrial production overtaking the US as the world's biggest carbon emitter, especially in the last decade, scientists have for the first time "detected a failure of the Earth's natural ability to absorb man-made carbon dioxide released into the air." A six degree rise "would catapult the planet into an extreme greenhouse state not seen for nearly 100 million years…it would cause a mass extinction of almost all life and probably reduce humanity to a few struggling groups of embattled survivors clinging to life near the poles." 

It is clear that our climate is indeed changing, and at a rate faster than originally thought, marking the pending conference on Climate Change as a historical milestone, and an opportunity to become a true global community--working hand-in-hand to create new ways of relationing towards the Earth.

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Tax On Breathing

The only sensible thing to do is to obviously put a tax on breathing... http://www.theemotionmachine.com

Disasterbation

I cant believe I am reading this crap. Anyone reading this propaganda needs to google 'Climategate'.

 

" When lies pay better than truth, expect lies."

                        Val Valerian 

yeah, I googled it. So what

yeah, I googled it. So what about it? So far I can't see anything but climate skeptics, probably right-wing nuts, trying to undermine the general scientific consensus on anthropogenic climate change. It is far from convincing and as far as I can see, having read a bit about it, their efforts do nothing to detract from climate science. And simply telling us to "google 'Climategate'" does absolutely nothing to negate what is put forth in the above article. It's very easy to say "google Climategate", what is your argument?

How could it not be?

I'll be the first to admit that I'm no expert on climate change, but what I don't understand is how skeptics can can simply ignore the implications of our impact on the planet. There are almost 7 billion of us worldwide. How can one even begin to accept the notion that our irresponsible consumption will not have a drastic effect on the environment?

Currently in New Jersey, it is...

December 3rd, 6:50AM, and 64 degrees!!!

Relaaaaax

Temperatures like that in early December in New Jersey are not that unusual, just check the historical record.

 

The evidence for global warming and the human contribution to it is very solid. What I have very little patience for is this popular dichotomy that there are 2 camps: one that claims global warming is real and is going to be disastrous if we don't drastically reduce emissions in an economically impoverishing amount of time, and one that claims global warming is a hoax perpetuated for [put your conspiracy theory here]. Most climatologists fall somewhere in the middle.

 

The evidence for catastrophic global warming is sketchy at best. There are very big questions that need to be effectively addressed beyond a shadow of a doubt before we start going around pointing guns at people, telling them to "Cut carbon emissions! Or else!" Also, don't know if any of you are familiar with a climatologist by the name of Wallace Broecker, but he has an idea for machines that would take carbon out of the atmosphere. It would be an extremely expensive pursuit, but it would ultimately be a cheaper, and far less economically disastrous option than cutting emissions to the extent called for by Kyoto et al.

Just went up 10 degrees since last night!

Beat that global warming! But in all seriousness - I don't deny that humans have an impact on their world. But so much of the global warming propaganda is scare tactics and sensationalism. Not to mention so many are willing to take scientific CONSENSUS (not the science itself, which is not anywhere near conclusive) as dogma. It is one thing to talk about pollution and helping to create a clean environment. It is another to use this rhetoric to try to get others to sacrifice their will to the state. John Stossel recently called it the "Climate-Industrial Complex" ...I think he is right on. http://www.theemotionmachine.com

Global warming? Don't wait up!

 This is a great program about the global warming hoax

 http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2009/12dec/RIR-091201-tball.mp3

Ecofascism is still Fascism.

Namaste. 

http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/143573

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1231694/The-inconvenient-truth...

http://www.infowars.com/bombshell-un-documents-outline-plan-to-use-clima...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1231673/Global-warming-Dont-wa...

" When lies pay better than truth, expect lies."

                         Val Valerian 

Seriously

Two things...(1) It is overwhelmingly obvious that the #1 factor that determines the overall temperature of the planet is our sun. I don't need to explain that fact. So, until the sun decides to fire back up and send some charged plasma our way its gonna stay a bit cold. (2) The planet is going to be just fine. We may alter conditions, and make our existence here an impossibility, but the earth will heal. When we become a threat to this planet, it will rid itself of us. One cannot control climate of a planet. Who is going to decide at what level CO2 should be found in our atmosphere? If there is an uptick in volcanos during a particular year, should we further reduce our CO2 output to combat the influx of additional CO2? It is a bit foolish to think we are destroying the earth. In a worst case scenario the earth, or an outside force, will remove the human existence. The earth will recover, move on, and create more life. It's our own butts we're trying to save.

Climategate?!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climatic_Research_Unit_e-mail_hacking_incid...

 

 

This is seriously disturbing to say the least! Who can we trust anymore about anything? Why the coverup by the mainstream? 

Why the coverup by the mainstream?

 Because the controlling elite hope to use the GW hoax to lay the foundation of a global government. This is what the Copnhagen so-called 'Agreement' is all about. Don't take my word for it, check it out. these plans were laid back in the early seventies by the Club of Rome. Their own published documents confirm this. A Global Government might not be a bad idea if it were not run by a load of fascist creeps who propose eugenics and forced population control as ways of dealing with humanity. Reichfurher Kissingers 'Report from Iron Mountain' is also worth a read, detailing as it does the elites plans to reduce the number of 'useless eaters', to use Kissingers own words.

The elite have got to keep it out of the media at least until Copenhagen. But I wonder if it will make any difference anyway to judge by some of the hysterical mind controlled comments at the top of this page. The so-called Left is just as mind controlled as the Right wing zombies.  Now  they have bought the GW fairy tale brought to them by the Brothers Grim, Fat Al Gore and Ken Lay (thats right 'Kenny Boy' of Enron fame was one of the architects of this scam) nothing, not even REAL scientific facts do not seem to mean anything to them.

Chris Kaplan you should be ashamed of yourself for spouting this spurious nonsense especially in light of the 'Climategate' revelations.  

Namaste 

 

" When lies pay better than truth, expect lies."

                       Val Valerian 

Stewards of the Gaia Consciousness

Since the dawn of agriculture and individual property, society has always been controlled by a priestly elite standing over the masses. The Gaia system has been evolving far longer than us, and we have evolved as a function of that system. When our ideologies split, and the Western industrial society spawned to life, and swept in its own spiralling evolution, unprecedented side-effects did occur, we saw ourselves seperate from the system of life that we came from, able to conquer nature and consistently take and produce from materials of the Earth, blind to the causes it will have in the future. Though this change in our natural way of life may seem like degradation, in truth it was a necessary step in our evolution as human beings. Western society has created the capabilities of harnassing a global culture that is aimed at sustaining our home, the Earth, not the ambitions of juvenile man that is clinging to a train of thought that is fastly becoming archaic in the eyes of the world.

"The Earth has not evolved solely for our benefit, and any changes we make to it are at our own risk. This way of thinking makes clear that we have no special human rights; we are merely one of the partner species in the great enterprise of Gaia. We are creatures of Darwinian evolution, a transient species with a limited lifespan, as were all our numerous distant ancestors. But, unlike almost everything before we emerged on the planet, we are also intelligent, social animals with the possibility of evolving to become a wiser and more intelligent animal, one that might have a greater potential as a partner for the rest of life on Earth" (Lovelock 9:2009; The Vanishing Face of Gaia).

The spiritual crisis we face, and the rapid propulsion caused by the 60's, is due to our consumerism of the Earth, and with thinking that we have no harmful effects on that system. We are learning this, and being shepherd to this by a large system of consciousness that we evolved as a part. Our functions in a greater role with the system that governs us as natural products of the Earth, are not the artificial systems of man and will exceed beyond those insuffiecient constructs. 

Societies large and small have become devesated throughout time by stripping the Earth bare and not responding to make the necessary adjustments to their behavior. One can read numerous examples of this in Jared Diamond's Collapse, through the vanished culture of Easter Island to the Greenland Norse, and how "for the first time in history, we face the risk of a global decline...globilization makes it impossible for modern societies to collapse in isolation" (Diamond 23: 2005). Whether you like it or not, this problem effects every human being, and denying it as a problem out of fear of a "New World Order" will only allow our fears from our past to govern our present. Elite control has always been a problem, and through the control of information. But now information, via the internet, is globally accessible, and near impossible to truly hide from the masses, which also stresses the importance of not putting prohibitions on the internet. But this digresses from the point I am trying to make. 

The problem around climate information is that it is coming from separate specialists from isolated regions in the field of science. When dealing with an intricate issue such as "climate change," or our impact of our consumer culture on an organic being, must be looked at from every possible angle, making a consensus extremely hard to reach. The problems we face are a complete cause-and-effect from every possible angle, and stems from our Western ideology, which has corroded our behavior with the Earth. 

"Every culture tends to reinforce different patterns of egoic processing. Our culture seems to have inflated 'distinction making' until it dominates not only Ego but our entire consciousness as well. Thus we could say that our consciousness is split from Mind and that the conscious experience of this phenomenon is one of separation, though in fact we continue to be immersed in nature! The experience of separation is an essential context for domination; domination is the root of exploitation. And thus we destroy our habitat, the versy basis of our survival as a species" (Robert Greenway 131:1995; Ecopsychology: The Wilderness Effect and Ecopsychology)

As human beings, I believe a great many of us have learned that we are apart of an intricate system of consciousness, and we have been thirstly absorbing information from indiginous ideologies that stress a harmonious balance with the Earth, in which we were created. The bottom line is we have to strive to better ourselves, to evolve our stale ideology and prove that we can be the stewards of the Earth, putting aside our political allegiances to our creator, the Gaian Concsiousness.

The Day the Earth Stood Still

"Why have you come to our planet?"

"Why have I come to your  planet?"

"Yes, this is our planet. Why have you come to our planet?"

"This is not  your planet."

 

So where are the REAL

So where are the REAL scientific facts Naugahyde_Budda? If you think that Al Gore and a couple of others are the only people piping up about global warming than I think you're sadly mistaken. And if the global elite did want to use this as one part of a front to establish the New World Order, why are so many so slow and reluctant to admit to the dangers posed by climate change and to do something about it - which is largely the case in Australia? Perhaps you're one of the conspiracy theorists Robert Anton Wilson talked about at the Disinfo. conference, who believe every chopper they see is the UN scouting out where their troops are going to come in when they invade. I assume you were referring to my comment - as one of the hysterical and mind controlled comments? I am genuinely interested - if I am mind controlled, how do I take back control of my mind? By reading what you read and watching what you watch? I think part of the lure of grand conspiracy theories is that they tie every thing in together and help you to make sense of this mad world. You also get to feel like you're the one who really knows what's going on, and you're ahead of the rest of us. I can tell by the style of your language, very similar to a friend of mine who is currently right into conspiracy theories, that you relish in being "in the know". Accusing people of being mind-controlled, as far I see, attests to your own hysteria. I don't see how people could be literally mind-controlled, as you seem to suggest? Sure, people are effectively made into zombies through corporate media, advertising etc. But it's not the same thing as HAARP manipulating people's brainwaves directly, or however that one goes.

quantum physics and derivatives such as super-string outmoded

 magnecularmagnecular:

 

quantum physics the capstone of modernism peaked in the 20s - Einstein at the latter part of his life calling for new ways of thinking - there was a tendency for the paternalistic culture of the time to focus on this one man's ideas - and more specifically his mathematics ; contrast Hyper-mathematics of Hadron Mechanics which embraces all mathematics past present and future (Vedic etc.) as “information interface” (making Hadron Mechanics accessible) - now we have all kinds of hysterical responses to various anomalies occurring in our whole solar system ; but what’s really exciting ; is this discovery of a 5 th force called the Hadronic Horizon which solves some of the most fundamental things that have been haunting astrophysics based on the study of quantum mechanical derivatives such as ‘string theory’, relating to molecular binding - Hadronic Horizon from Hadron Mechanics - relating, for example to the Hadron Collider, or CERN - it might save everybody unnecessary suffering and heart ache if we could come to a place where we can say the science based on quantum physics outmoded; and actually a tremendous downer when all the excitement of discovery which is what science really about in Hadron Mechanics - all these free energy devices that seem to work but nobody has the science to explain and therefore can’t industrially manufacture, well Hedron Mechanics explains these and many more - but what is very exciting is what Hadron Mechanics is saying about human DNA

MISINFORMATION

where is all this misinformation coming from? for the past 20 years, the largest source of these challenges comes from the washington based conservative think tank, the george c. marshall institute (founded and chaired by frederick seitz). according to them, global warming is “the greatest deception in the history of science” (this is the same institute which claimed there wasn’t enough scientific proof that cigarettes caused chronic degenerative diseases). i won’t go into detail about them, but you’ll surely find a lot of interesting information seeing as they are the “central cog in the denial machine.” climate change is not only real, but anthropogenic. since 1979, there has been consensus among the scientific community that this is true. and while it’s also true that the earth is older than we can comprehend and has undergone many far more drastic climate changes in its history, we can’t forget that we are simply visitors on this giant rock, happening by chance. the planet has its own natural mechanisms to clean itself up. whether we will survive those processes is the issue. so, while the world is so busy arguing over whether climate change is real or not, we’re forgetting the REAL POINT: the price of not acting is far greater than the price of acting! PS. do not ever talk about that bullshit petition against climate change

Negligence to the issue of

Negligence to the issue of climate change might lead us to a disastrous tragedy. I am not threatening you guys but this could really happen so before its to late take all the preventive measure to fight the occurrence of such. The cap and dividend bill might work, but then again it might not. The idea, similar to cap and trade, is that permits for carbon emissions have to purchased by manufacturers and other industries, and that money will be diverted, 30% going to research for reducing global warming (hopefully) by reducing carbon emissions, and the rest will go straight back to the consumers in the form of a dividends check. Now, the idea of everyone getting a couple of payday loans worth per year is nice, but that's going to get eaten up by increased cost of goods and services.