Shamanism, Anarchy, and the End of the World

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This article originally appeared in Fifth Estate.

 

After twenty years of teaching shamanic practices to small groups in several circles in Washington and California, I found the results to be mixed. In the groups in which I participated, there were many moving visionary experiences, but the flabby jargon of the human potential movement left important messages missed amid incessant psychobabble.

Contemporary shamanism, which grew out of the human potential movement of the Big Sur-based Esalen Institute, rapidly became subsumed into the New Age culture as the latest fad/religion. In two or three decades, aided by workshop leaders, it has become lost into the pop culture. While the permutations were endless, pervasive alienation remained a constant. As always, money, sex, and power ruled.

That shamanism has been compromised is not to say that altered states and working in trance cannot offer us a personal healing direction. I know from experience that lives can be changed through shamanic work. A deep trance, engendered in a variety of ways and entered with intention, can be transforming.

The value of shamanism as taught in the contemporary culture may be that it provides some level of psychotherapy, some level of energetic balance, some palliative response to stress along with feelings of community and slightly less alienation. In some cases, shamanic practice may provide actual healing of disease or easing of struggles with death.

My own struggle with shamanism centered on skepticism and the understanding that we can fool ourselves into believing almost anything. My training was in agriculture and science. I was not one to accept much on faith. I continued to bounce between shamanic visions as projections of the psyche and as visitations from a separate spiritual world.

By the time I stopped teaching a few years ago, I had come to understand that the distinction probably didn't matter. My work and studies since have convinced me that contemporary religious and psychological shamanism represent part of a catastrophic human error which took place at the beginning of history, and that contrary to the notion that it has been around for tens of thousands of years, indigenous shamanism is more likely a transitional phase between the consciousness of hunter gatherers and the alienation of contemporary state religions.

 

Lives as numb wage slaves

Faith healing comes in many costumes, and shamanism is one of them. We can wear skins or robes. We can beat drums or play pipe organs, burn sage or incense, sing to the element of water, or submerge ourselves in the river. Both the "laying on" of hands and sleight of hand can be efficacious. We can sing to our bear or sing to Jesus, whirl like a dervish, whip ourselves until we bleed, play with rattlesnakes, dance in the sun for four days, or starve ourselves in caves. Take your pick. Each can make less painful our lives as numb wage slaves.

If we can ignore that tiny voice crying for real freedom and calling us back to the circle, our economic and religious subservience will help us pretend to be something more than the imprisoned domestic animals we are.

A large problem remains. Shamanism, or any of the other religious choices as currently practiced, will not turn us from the global abyss. To believe shamanism and religion can bring about some form of planetary healing is much like the notion that more technology will solve our environmental problems. Transference, sexual abuse, misinterpretation of serious pathologies, and lack of ethics, all typical of the human potential movement, combine to further alienate and separate.

Benign attempts at healing by unskilled and uninformed devotees, while perhaps not causing serious harm, can impede solid, long-term movement toward better health. To put it plainly, shamanism draws some seriously crazy folks, and many leaders are happy to look the other way as long as the fees are paid.

 

Contemporary shamanism teaches vertical, hierarchical religion

For those of us arrogant enough to assume we have mastered this reality enough to explore another, our shamanic practice should pull us toward radical anarchistic action. We've been hearing from, and paying huge workshop fees to shamanic leaders for decades about "connecting to spirit," but their message sidesteps industrial capitalism, the religions to which it is connected, and open, public, radical changes flowing from our spiritual work. The reason for this omission is clear. Contemporary shamanism teaches vertical, hierarchical religion. The focus is on what Mircea Eliade, in Shamanism, Archaic Techniques of Ecstasy, described as the "journey," rather than presence in this biological world.

Agriculture, religion and government have not brought us a better life. The price we have paid for these abstractions is far too high. The amusing charm of a small transistor radio hanging from a tree in an upper Amazon village belies the toxicity of the poisonous little gadget.

Writings of Morris Berman, Paul Shepard, Joel Kovel, Stanley Diamond, John Zerzan, David Watson, Derrick Jensen, Lewis Mumford, and others have led me to conclude that we should not be attaching religious symbolism and meaning to shamanic experience, but instead should seek a practice which takes us to the awareness that preceded the alienating beginning of agriculture and religion.

We should attempt a return to what Berman calls paradox, free of time and language. Even brief experiences of integration might help us build decentralized communities centered on our insight.

 

Return to "primitive wisdom"

An intentional use of altered states can obliterate the duality that has led to the domination and destruction of our world, an experience of unity, what Sigmund Freud called the regressive "oceanic experience," what Jung called a progressive return to "primitive wisdom," and what Morris Berman, in Wandering God, termed the "paradox" of hunter-gatherer consciousness, "a diffuse or peripheral awareness," and in his earlier book The Re-enchantment of the World, called "participatory consciousness" in which "the sacred, such as it is, simply is the world."

Unfortunately, shamanic practice as taught imbeds us in pathological constructs. Linear, vertical thinking has brought us to disaster. If we leave religion behind, trance practice can lead us to an egalitarian culture of biological integration. We must reject the religious rituals and notions of upper and lower worlds. We must cease our efforts to ascend and return to living completely here, in ourselves, on this earth, as integrated beings.

The dominant power structures under which we exist are only too happy to have us live in the illusory and impotent condition of duality, and most humans will sit and do nothing during this time of inexorable unraveling. Only a few will work to recover our history as integrated, wild beings.

Our hunter-gatherer ancestors are still close. Wiser and healthier than we, they are calling us back from a technological and religious cliff. Small, egalitarian, tribal circles of paradox can return us to the awareness of our ancestors of 10,000 years ago, before they unwittingly brought us religion and planted the seeds of our destruction.

We can reject the linear, oppressive, hierarchical, and alienating forms of religions that have swept our world and begin to live in an archaic, anarchistic, sustained way that begins to heal our planetary home.

 

We must be done with leaders

We need not travel to other realms. We must learn to step through a barrier and arrive here. Trance brings us home. School is in the garden, the forest, the prairies, the rivers. The teaching we need will not come from priests, gurus, shamans, or scientists. Our circles must be egalitarian and built on a solid mistrust of all power.

We must be done with leaders and their overwhelming lusts for money, sex, and power, impulses so integral to our culture they routinely go unnoticed. We must find ways to explore our way home without the intervention of individuals and organizations that propose equality on the surface but simply duplicate the power and alienation they've learned in the academic and capitalistic culture.

A Taoist nun once said, "There is no practice." I think she was right, for those who have already merged with the living world around them. For the rest of us, if we sing, dance, eat our plant helpers, and there are spirits who care enough to help us return, they will. If we don't impose our notions of sacred, goodness, power, and importance on our visions, ourselves, and the other beings we encounter, we may be able finally to rest.

The rapture is not a naked ascent into heaven. It is a naked return through a diaphanous membrane to our wild, natural, biological home.

 

Image by Monsiuer Haze, courtesy of Creative Commons license.

 

 

Comments

Gebser.

Good article. I've read Derrick Jensen's stuff, and I've seen him speak. You're work here reminds me very much of his Anarcho-Primitivism. An idea that is interesting for sure, but I am more of a Gebser follower in the sense of transformation. Reform and return will not work. While progress is not the correct term for what we need to survive and thrive as a species of "full" humans, mutation perhaps is.

I have great trouble with this idea that we need to return to some idealized past that is 10,000 years in reverse. Politically and economically (from wholly rational-ego-based standpoints) I am in full favor of some form of Anarcho-communist or Anarcho-collectivist movement, but the cynical and jaded American in me doesn't see any of that happening without some kind of painful and bloody struggle. A struggle, honestly, I'm not sure I could involve myself with in good conscious.

Jensen's work on violence is convincing, but every time violence is used for change, it always seems to amount to nothing more than a transference of power and material from one group to the next. Not for what I seek.

In terms of religion and spirituality - I love what you had to say. It would be lovely for us to learn to integrate the Spiritual World with the Material World a la Steiner. Perhaps that's part of the Integral Consciousness Structure that Gebser discussed. I do hope I'll be around to see.

Pain

"A struggle, honestly, I'm not sure I could involve myself with in good conscious."  

 

Do you see how this culture lives right now?  This isn't exactly non-violence-ville.  As a matter of fact it's quite the opposite.  A wholesale slaughtering of human, plant, and animal life is happening.  Right now.  What is this culture moving towards?  Right now.  And we are all involved on some level.  The only hope is that we can begin to get on with the healing.  As the slaughter goes on, ever increasing, ever expanding, ever more violent and bloody.

 

I hear a lot about the "understanding that all things are connected" and "love for the planet and human life" and "I would never perpetuate violent, karmic cycles etc."  Come on.... No really, come.

Yes, as a matter of fact,

Yes, as a matter of fact, I'm quite aware of how self-destructive, violent, and acquiescent *this* culture is. I take it that you mean Western Civilization for the most part, because therein one finds the most developed instance of the rational-ego structure of consciousness with its adherence to patriarchy, domination, and subjugation.

I'm not quite sure what led you to believe that I think this is "non-violence-ville" as my entire post was discussing how I find it difficult to agree with any counter-ideology or counter-hegemony that would use violence as a primary means of transformation.

I'm really not sure what you're criticizing that I said.

Mmmm

Indeed, I misinterpreted/represented your words.  I made a vacuum and filled it, not intentionally I assure you, for what that's worth.  Appologies.  What is the gist of the schema for a transformation that Gebser painted?  Im not read up much outside of the "Anarcho-Primitivism."  Im not even sure that I'd called it anarcho-primitivism im interested in.  Although I lean towards Jensen I believe putting "ism" on anything holds it static, freezing it's ability to mutate as organisms and their representations (cultures) need to do.  Anytime we assume a fixed abstraction we run the risk of illusionary security in an ever changing reality.  Illusionary security inevitably leads to inexcusable violence.  Perhaps calling Jensens indigenous based vision something to the effect of "sentient hyperstructurism" would be more suitable.  In any event, sorry again for my misunderstanding.

No worries, amigo.  Such

No worries, amigo.  Such is the nature of the digital message board - you miss one verb, noun, or conjunction, and wham-o, the pacifist becomes the fascist. :)

 

Anyways, I just started reading Jean Gebser's The Ever-Present Origin a few weeks ago.  It was written in the 1950s, and I swear it could have been written yesterday.  The book (all 6 or 700 some odd pages of it) is really phenomenal.  Its one of those books that's giving me wonderful new lenses through which to see the world (the same way that 2012, A Secret History of Consciousness, Food of the Gods, End Game, and The Secret History of the World all did for me over the past couple of year - just to mention a few), but its just a spot different.  Why?  Because its brutally dense, no-punches pulled, straight up out of the academy style writing.  Its essentially a book on esoteric philosophy that is so well researched, reasoned, and argued that it takes a long while to really pace yourself through it.

 Okay, enough with the superficiality.  The book is really about what Gebser calls mutations in the structure of consciousness that have occurred over the course of human development.  You know how the Christian's claim the world is only 4,000 years old or something?  After reading the first hundred pages of Gebser's work, you start to understand what they might be talking about.  He discusses that man has gone through several mutations in the structure of consciousness with which s/he approaches the world.  He terms them in several different ways:

  1. Pre-perspectival
  2. Un-perspectival
  3. Perspectival (Where we are now.)
  4. (And soon to be?) Aperspectival

Also:

  1. Magical
  2. Mythical
  3. Mental (Where we are now with our hubristic clinging to the rational-ego mindset)
  4. Integral

There are other ways, and if you're interested I'll pull the book out and list 'em out for you.  Just let me know.  Anyways, the whole beginning of the book is an exposition that attempts, through the use of evidentiary art, literature, and mythological discussions, to, in a guarded way, empirically justify this theory.  It is quite illuminating, and several times I had to put the book down for a second, because I realized I was going through a profound transformation of what I thought was the real history of the world.  

 I certainly can't do justice to Gebser in this post, but he discusses how over the course of the last several thousand years (wo)man has gone through several profound mutations in the structure of consciousness.  From magic (wo)man who didn't so much possess an ego, was at one with the rhythms of nature, communicated telepathically and operated through a sort of group mind.  Then came mythical (wo)man, who while still part of the natural cycles of gaia, began to individuate her/himself and understood the world through the dictations and muses of the Gods and other sentient mythical beings.

 Then, I think over the course of time from around 600BC to 1400AD (culminating with Da Vinci's brilliance) man's consciousness mutated into the Mental Structure.  The real ego appeared and man lost touch (consciously, but never wholly - because, remember - the origin is ever-present - kind of like in a Be Here Now Ram Dass kind of way) with nature, and began to see the world as something to conquer.

 All of this history of consciousness structure is laid down to set the stage for what Gebser terms as the burgeoning new structure of consciousness that appears to have been in its initatory birth-pangs in the early 1900s, and, quite obviously, is emerging today at a more ready pace.  He discusses concepts of diaphaenity and the "concretion of time".  Essentially, with each new structural mutation in consciousness, (wo)man begins to reorient her/himself to a new dimensionality.  For the coming integral consciousness, Gebser believes in a sense we will begin to understand time as an everpresent dimension like the 3 dimensions of space, and lesser as a one-way river.

  I hope that's a decent introduction.  I'm not wholly done with the book, but if you're at all interested - I really can't recommend it enough.

Oh my

No need to continue, I'm heading to the library tomorrow.  I have a book queue a mile long, but this just jumped up to the top.  It seems to be along the lines but greater in scope then my next in queue  "The origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind" by Julian Jaynes.  Thanks for the low down!

Excellent.

Yes, yes, yes.  I heard about Gebser and Jaynes in the same book by Gary Lachman, The Secret History of Consciousness.  That was three years ago, and I'm just now onto Gebser.

You won't be dissapointed!

Integral Consciousness

If you are interested in Gebser, may I recommend Ken Wilber. Particularly the book Sex, Ecology, and Spirituality. He attempts to bring together Gebser's work with the work of countless other researchers in psychology, anthropology, biology, and spirituality, and to demonstrate that the integral level of consciousness has already arisen, albeit in less than 2% of the current population.

I know I pimp him a lot on this site; I certainly don't agree with everything the man says...but Wilber most definitely has points that *must* be taken into account for any 'truly integral' model of reality.

As Wilber himself says, "A good theory is one that lasts long enough to get you to a better one."

 

"You must *be* the change you wish to see in the world." Mahatma Gandhi

Nifty.

Thanks for the recommendation Chibi.  I read Wilber's No Boundary, and I enjoyed it.  I'll have to look into Sex, Ecology, and Spirituality when I'm done with The Everpresent Origin.  

I think that the whole 2% number makes some sense, and its probably growing daily.  I'm fairly sure in Gebser's day, he saw it beginning to bud in some individuals as well.

Good DIalogue

Sam Michael

TO return to the garden or to slash and burn our way further through the jungle, that is the quesetion? Interesting Article, Dave Hanson I have some mixed feelings about the perspective of the article, that shamanism and shamanic journey is vertical and hierarchical, obviously it might be in an improperly run workshop, but the notion of the power of the individual to make this tremendous cosmic journey by him or her self is a redemptively egalitarian notion for any religion in my book. You obviously are concerned with exposing the degradation in quality of shamanic practice, as in all praxis, from my own experience in martial arts and yoga as well much could be said on the need for genuine practice. It is on us to restore and maintain these traditions to the extent they continue to be of value. In your article you make a clear distinction between shamanism (Which you argue to be a production of cultural disruption), wherein much emphasis is put on trance state, and a more primal spiritually manifest dreamtime or communal everpresent sacred now. Now these are both tremendously interesting phenomenon. Let us argue that shamans are only necessary when the shit hits the fan, then do pre-shamanic people have a need to take intrepid journeys, did Adam traverse through heaven and hell while in the garden of eden? Was shamanic healing necessary before time began? There are answers to this question- Animals have extensive pharmakopeia- Gorillas and apes certainly are acquainted with many more plants than the average city-dweller. What do they learn from these plants, and are not many shamanic traditions based in the lore of shamanic animals, bear, deer, etc? Shamanism is a loosely defined reification of of activities that are defintely pre-human and I don't think it is valid to claim it was initially conceived through cultural disruption when many shamans to this day literally retell how they were taught this or that plants existence by the bear or the elk. A true shaman uses trance states as a tool but never leaves the sacred life out of time, They climb up and down the world tree but return to the ever-present omphalos navel of the world.

Ah

Derrick Jensen. He's got some heroic stuff in "Endgame Vol 1 & 2." Really validating and empowering, he still guides my words. Tackling Gandhi's and Martin Luther King's rhetoric is not for the faint of heart and I think he did a phenomenal job in relieving the pacifists as the sole heirs to the Ivory Palace of resistance, all you caped crusading pacifists be warned! Oh, by the way, as he states in Volume 2 of Endgame, Violence does in fact have an excellent track record when applied in the abuser/abused scenario like we see here in the USA. Fighting an abuser (we call them bullies also) is statistically the best way to ensure your continued existence, he states how the "Vietnamese outfought, out died and outlasted the invaders" and also brings up the Jewish revolts in Nazi concentration camps which lead to LESS violence/deaths in the long run. ;) Jensen's work lead me to Jeremy Rifkin's "Entropy - A new world view." Although it's been more then 20 years since release and the data is out dated the premise of examining sociology/ecology/psychology and most of life's other various workings from the base of the law of entropy is spot on, a must read for anyone looking to pull together a valid defense to the environmental naysayers. One thing is certain, the people responsible for the perpetual atrocities against humanity and the planet are vigilant, resourceful, calculating and thoroughly insane to the core, working round the clock to make top dollar at the expense of everything. While it would be obnoxious to have to count to 100 every night before turning in. 100 is the number of species, plant/animal, gone extinct every day as a result of our completely inexcusable ignorance. As uncomfortable as that is to know I imagine it's more uncomfortable to be the last of your species. There's no way around the governing laws of our planet. Humans can accomplish a lot with dreams. But we can not create or destroy matter with love, hope and joy. Very soon the planets cries for help will be so loud that no one can ignore reality any longer.

Fascinating article!

I enjoyed this article so much, that time went very quickly. And I was hoping as I scrolled down it would be longer ;)

That means I was really into it!

I really think what is being encouraged here is

U R G E N T to know. To feel at home in Earth. To get away from this need to contact 'higher planes' and 'entities'.

Who is the usual 'leader' for the psychedelic thinking person's movement...now? Terrence McKenna? I see him mentioned a lot anyhow.

I shook hands with Terrence once, in late 1990s at his book signing for Real Hallucinations, after he gave an interesting talk. And he was/is a remarkable character. But things he says really piss me the fuck off.

For example, a recent video I heard, where he suggests via comedy-to-be-traken-seriously, that the 'best' 'heroic' forms of psychedelic experience are mega doses where you lie in a totally blacked-out room, in silence, with intention of contacting 'entities'. Isn't such as that exactly what that article warns us about?! This need, urge, peer pressure, myth of 'contacting the 'upper worlds'?  When surely really urgently what we need to do is FEEL our ways deep into the actual natural world of trees, streams, rivers, animals, clouds, air, insects, other people, and so on.So as to experience this Web of Life in its potential depths as only you can when inspired with psychedelics, and then integrate this deep bonding experience.............!

Because we have lost our sensual interelationship (The Spell of the Sensuous, Abram) with the Web of Life. With the tree, and the voice and touch of the tree, and brook, and breeze, and bird, and moth..., that we need ways to revive it. To dissolve the bars of the matrix cage which alienates us from body, Nature, and spirit. Not like the film of that name -The Matrix - to become 'superman/person' (ubermensch)'superior' version of ourselves, but so we can live revitalized with nature and not seek to escape, or put-it-right.

For ages I have been trying to find a talk given by Albert Hofmann at--I believe his 100th birthday LSD Symposium where he emphasizes the need to take LSD in the countryside. (If anyone knows a video link, or transcript of what he said, I would be really grateful). This is extremely personl for me also, because it was my early experience with LSD as a young teen that helped me dissolve the harm the matrix had done to me in that short space of time from young boy to young teen. Experiencing Nature with LSD regained for me that lost deep magical sensual wonder of Nature which had been brutalized out of me via schooling, mass media and peer pressure.

Dave, I hope you read my reply, and if you do you will continue with your important theme. When I first read some of John Zerzan's articles some years back, I was excited because he was bold enough to seriously question shamanism itself. I have often thought how sad it is that one man or woman is supposed to be only one who can access spiritual dimensions. And all the authority and room for corruption with that power.

I was to read a really interesting book by Ward Rutherford, Shamanism: The Foundations of Magic, where he suggests that generally male shamanic cultures feared women's Goddess spirituality, especially communal forms of ecstatic trance/possession. That many of their main spiritual enemies were female, who lived under the ground, the sea,  and that they mostly feared the Descent trance.

Because , you see, if the female was feared as he says, this would explain reluctance to 'descend' as this is meaning 'engulfment' in the unconscious, the Underworld, Otherworld. Whatever you wanna call it. Chaos? So surely there one can see the seeds of patriarchal religious idealism where the male seeks 'ascent' /escape from the 'Mess'. The emotional labyrinthe, all gooey, and suckey. Nature. Where the authoritarian shaman would meet his other side, he might fear.

 

I really want to explore this deep. 

Radical Non-duality

Great discussion, I would just like to add that if you exclude anything from a mature exploration of reality, such as entities. upper/ lower worlds, etc, then you turn a blinds eye on a phenomena that is availabel to our probing awareness. For me, I needed to radically transcend this world, and see it from that hyper dimensional space above the matrix, in order to wake up to humanities brutal assaults on the natural order. Vertical ascencion/ descent I believe are necessary to ultimately break away from our modern rational and linear perspectives that happen to be raping this planet. The other point is that yeah, most male based religions (and most macho minded guys) fear the free and sensual sexuality of the Earth based Goddess religions that descend into the wet underworlds of the dark....cavernous womb of primal creation.....so much so that the labels of hell and evil condeming women and any other pagan worshipping of the Earth Spirits.....My sense is that both are required: transcending spacetime to know who you realy are behind all from, And descending the deep roots of our tree of life to connect and heal the all too material body of our planet and our selves. Only in that radical non-duality are we free ....

Radical Non-duality

Overall, I agree strongly; with the caveat that, after surfing that wave for a while, you begin to realize that all these waves are all part of one ocean. And it's the ocean that is truly real, and that really matters.

 

Up.....and down.....

and, in the end, its only round and round...

 

When you have reached the core of your awareness, and you turn that awareness finally and totally upon itself, you find that nothing is anything but you -- and you are nothing but everything else.

 

"You must *be* the change you wish to see in the world." Mahatma Gandhi

Ditto Zest

maybe it's come time to look at psychic/mystical/spiritual attempts as better saved for AFTER the physical world is tended to. There's hundreds of millions of folks who will die this year who agree on this one. And billions and billions upon billions of organisms that do as well.

I'm curious

I'm curious what folks thoughts are on advancing, or not, technological research at this point, technology in the present sense, machines and the like. It would be nice to rest securely in the hope that a major shift will occur in a few years, but for the sake of reason lets assume a cosmic shift in consciousness will not occur, the masses don't awaken. Can we make it happen? A sustainable (which is a misnomer if we're considering our understanding of the governing laws of the physics) energy source. Have we really got the time? Have we really got the minerals? The water? The inertia? The resources in general? My stance is simple. I can't see a silver lining in the machine paradigm. But im curious what others think. Is this possible right now?

A problem of design. One solution.

Waiting for some technological magic bullet to save the day is an element of our cultural programming. There are things we can do now to reduce our dependency on Centralized Solutions.

One Example.
After HVAC, refrigerators use the most electricity in the house. However, they're not designed very well. I've hacked a chest freezer to work as my fridge and it uses as much electricity as a 100 watt light bulb that's left on all day. Here's some info.

http://mtbest.net/chest_fridge.html

Here's the thermostat I use:
http://www.amazon.com/A19AAT-2C-Freezer-Temperature-Controller/dp/B0002E...

Most of the machines that we're dependent on were designed when resources like oil and coal were cheap, plentiful and we were living in a dream world.

Redesigning or learning how to live without many of our machines is something we can do now.

Decentalized Power

The technology for us to be independent from coal is already here. Nanosolar is a company that has developed solar power to be as cheap as coal.

It's great tech and I hope someday we'll see these on everyone's roof... But... I think it may be too disruptive to ever see the light of day ;-). From my perspective the current fossil fuel / utility infrastructure is too closely tied to the ruling elite.

If there was real tech (and there is!) that gave you and I true energy independence the impact to our current social order would be immense.

I remember Rushkoff saying somewhere that the tech is here we just don't have an economic model. We live in a commodities / scarcity based model. Solar energy is abundant and can be free. We just aren't currently living in an economic or social model that's congruent with that tech.

Thank you, Dave

Thank you, Dave. This "great return" to the Earth is inevitable, I feel, in order to solidify our existence in greater consciousness. And every person will feel this, and they will have to, in order for this balance to continue.

If a shift does not happen in the next few years, then we might have to wait a long time before the opportunity arises again. Yet, if we listen to Nature, and the Earth, will it not guide us in ways that expedite our return?

Right now, with so much fact and structure ruling our culture, it would do many good to begin communicating with their intuition, trusting that, perhaps, they are always where they need to be.

At the turn of such great happenings, the unprepared masses will feel like a massive two-by-four just whacked them across their head, and probably wake up with a headache. But they will feel it, nonetheless.

Has anybody picked up Novalis' "The Novices of Sais?" It could be one of the most important perspectives of nature ever written, and it was so over two hundred years ago. Too complex to be put into detail, it simply carries a devout listener's energy, of one who took the time to engage, question, and exist within his atmosphere and the nature of all life around him. I was exhausted after reading it through in one sitting. I highly recommend it to anyone with an interest in this direciton.

crazy people shaman

Was i crazy? did i think i could make myself a shaman? by making myself a poet.Did i have to make my myself crazy so i could pass the test? In those days you did not hear of all these yuppie shaman "new age" type groups, of course i had heard of sensitivity awareness groups that were an off shoot of Esalen, and Gestalt groups, but that was for people with real lives, and jobs and educations, i had none of those.I was living in a in a cottage with my musician friend from high school, he had a college grant, and was in a local band.I was just taking classes at the jr college and washing dishes in the cafeteria to feed myself.I took alternative classes and some art class, an English class, a class called "poems of Death" I wanted to be an artist, but i was reading books of poetry, and reading about American Indians.The draft was hanging over my head like the coyote acme anvil.I was a Santa Cruz hippie, but i really no longer knew what that was, i was just reading Alan Watts and Ram Das, and Jerry Rubin's 'Steal this Book'.

So why did i make myself crazy? Was it because i was very effected by the Book i was reading about Crazy Horse's life? I don't know, i was hanging out with some crazy people on the street and in the Catalyst the college student /hippie hang out, we all were crazy together, my muscian friend had his own friends, mostly the people he played music with and college students.I on the other hand was now hanging out with a crazy surfer from LA that had had shock treatment, because his scientist father had made him get it, he was taking gobs of LSD and was too wild.My surfer friend was a writer/poet.So, crazy was in the air now, it had replaced the magic in the air of the late 60's and all the psychedelics that were now everywhere. So, i entered the theater of madmen, the Santa Cruz streets were full of crazy people, a lot of them had been let out of the state mental institutions by the California Governor, that had declared war on Berkeley demonstrators.So crazy i would be, but i had no idea how crazy is crazy.All the time i was going through the changes i never really thought i was crazy crazy, i mean i was told i was schizo because i did not want to train to kill people in Southeast Asia. But, there came a day that i knew i had passed through some kind of portal, Santa Cruz was a Vortex after all, and i was walking around inside of it.

And things just got more and more strange, and all the time i was seeing it all through the eyes of a poet, a kind of shamanic poet, that just seemed to run into phenomenon.

Yes, but

The real phenomenon that has come to be called shamanism remains; it's just that it's the province of the few, not the many; it is, as always, a calling and not a self-selected commodity; it is a difficult path of service to others, not entertainment, diversion or self-gratification, even under the guise of self-treatment.

Oh you Gurus...

We already have all the knowledge inside of us. If you are trying to be like your Guru you will never get there.

Spiritual life, unlike material-world life is yours and only you live it. Are we just trying to imitate what our Ego sees as a beneficial behavior and not truly try to ask ourselves the only question you will ever need to get to a spiritual epiphany: "Who am I?" This is when the eyes truly start opening, bringing down the tower of cards that is our Ego.

The Guru is you.

yeah yeah i heard all that before

can you guys tell me anything, interesting?

see if you don't tote the line

and say the right kinda things, all the pseudo-shamans come out of the woodwork, and give you the standard brand rap, i have seen it so so many times on other web sites, that are called shaman this and shaman that, and you wanna guess how many so called- know-what shaman is, people wanna tell you the psudo-holy-then -thou standard brand rap? All the all know, they just got to sound all self rightous, cuz you know that proves it, you know. Just look at what just happened here, i wrote like i write, like a poet, like being a poet, and a toss in the word shamanic, and wam! i immediatly get not one but two, standard brand raps, i'm setting up shop, i want to see how many standard brand shaman raps there are out there, you know those clipt phrases, like "we all ready have the knowledge inside us" or what was the other one, oh yeah,"The real phenomena" you know its like coke, the real thing, the real shaman, and if you are not him well, heck you can just find some yuppie shaman group and learn how to clean the steps of the temple. i wonder if all those people on those other sites that will just jump through hoops to tell you what the "real phenomena" is, you know not those Castaneda wanna be guys, now that he is gone, and those internet guru shaman guys, that will tell you about their real experiences.I can't wait.Yummy, actually i think this is what this article was trying to get at, that we have used up all the guru shaman raps, they have played themselves out.

oh sorry i don't fit the standard brand internet shaman rap. Oh you can remove the word shaman out of my previous post, i will galdly settle for crazy coyote poet.Or Anarcho-surrealist-crazy-coyote-that-years-ago-traveled into-the-underworld,-because-he- was -called -crazy, because-he-did-not-want-to-kill-people-in-Southeast-Asia-poet

 

and remember" if it's not already inside of you" well, its got to be around somewhere (<O>)

RE~~Radical Non-duality

Hi GeneAll, an interesting post.

I feel the danger of focussing on 'contacting higher dimensions' is evidenced by what is overtly and covertly going on all around us; the 'New Age'.

I very much recommend the reading of Monica Sjoo---Here is link to a relevant article from Monica Sjoo's site, about the danger of the, so-called, New Age:

Sinister New Age Channelings: Who or What is Speaking http://www.monicasjoo.org/artic/channelbrief/sinisterchannelings1.htm

I am well aware of spirits (or 'entities' met in non ordinary experiences), as I have met some, intimately, in a very powerful 'OBE', and have had experiences when psychedelically inspired.

I am also aware of Curanderos like Maria Sabina, after having taken sacred mushrooms, the spirits informing her where healing plants are for certain benefits. And faeries, Nature spirits. So I am not being some kind of super-materialist when I say to bond with Nature. I am meaning 'Nature' in the deepest sense, which involves a spiral understanding of reality more so than a vertical (in the book Shamanism, by Ward Rutherford, he shows a 'confusion' of imagery and symbolism between 'Descent' and 'Ascent' : "Ascent and Descent: When one sifts through the enormous body of information now available, the one clear point is that while experiences are regarded in some societes as characteterizing the ascent-trance, in others they occur in those of descent. For example, among the Teleuts, the shaman may be waylaid on his upward journey by a woman who tempts him with food.If wise, he does not succumb, for the food, besides binding him to the place, will also obliterate all memory of his past life.

The same motif is, of course, found in Greek myth as in that of Demeter, mother of Persephone, who is unable to liberate her daughter permanently from the Kingdom of Hades because she has imprudently eaten the seeds of the pomegranite" (page 101). Implying it is how we interpret spiritual experience)

I am exploring that when the 'contact with higher dimensions', or 'Ascent', is emphasized, and ritualized into a kind of religious dogmatic practice and interpretation, that this can alienate from actual sensual contact with the Land, and earthy and bodily sensual experience. Its a becoming getting-lost-in-the-headism, in a 'glorified' dramatic way. Lost in 'other worlds', where maybe you begin to feel more akin to than this one 'down here'. More 'godlike'.

You may begin to give up your unique interpretation, and ongoing exploration of your sensual experience in the natural world, for some 'entity' you assume must be more powerful than you and speaks through you. And you may begin to identify with. And you might wanna become 'its' slave, and do 'its' bidding.

Rene Decartes is supposed to have had a dream where he meakes contact with n 'angel':

"Jacques Maritain, The Dream of Descartes, says that Descartes had a vision of an angel who told him to embark on a science that would improve mankind."

http://members.aol.com/histrhet/RHET0120.html

And what happened?! He introduces the 'scientific justification' for torturing and murdering animals who he believes are 'automata'. And that awful horrific influence carries on to this day as 'animal vivisection'. And of course includes people and children also!

If you care to read that link to Monica Sjoo's article, you'll read more about the utmost dangers of such an enterprise. And should see how its influenced some of the worst horrors of this world, and continues to do so.The Nazis and their 'ascended masters',for example.

For if your hip to the behind the scenes of the ruling elite you will know that myths and occultist rituals such as that continue. And their symbolism is in plain site.

The Nazis were funded by Wbush's grandaddy; Operation Paperclip brought many Nazi war criminals into the bosom of U.S. infrastructure and secret projects, and three generations, grandfather, father, and junior, of the Bush family, are members of the Nazi-symbol Skull and Bones club, as are many other politicians, etc! And there exist other secret societies involved in occultism, and contributing to all forms of sadism, violence, crime, and the destruction of the Web of Life!

As you know, in our times some people claim that there are entities known as 'reptilian aliens'. So see how what is being talked about here is kinda mainstream--if you will. The idea that 'higher entities' inform power elites. And even reality itself is believed by them to be fashioned by these beings. This disenfranshising one's experience of actual reality!!?

I encourage us to LOOK and feel DIRECTLY at what is happening to animals, all species, and Nature, and many many peoples, children, and Planet Earth, and ourselves, NOW! Urgently.

Dave Hanson's Nightmare

I believe that Dave Hanson has been such a big part in the profit of Shamanism that he has lost his way with what Shamanism is truly about in the end. I have come to see that Shamanism is the only healthy way left to reconnect us into the whole person that we truly are.

Shamanism and courses and money… I don’t buy it… I just don’t get it and in a way I believe Dave ends up discarding Shamanism and embracing the monk life of Buddhism with as much noise as one wants to make -- that there be no teachers and that nirvana will just simply appear without a thought, or right action, except for picking berries and hunting rabbit… In this way of thinking Dave has loses all quiet and health of the Spirit and has embraced Mumockbeeism.

The roles we must play in the tribal way must just come and will come by just being who we were all meant to be. But he has ruled out the complexity of the being human mixed with the simplicity of the Spirit of Life. People are all so different that it wouldn’t take long for someone in Dave’s world to begin abusing the system he speaks of because of power, sex, money etc… Contemporary Shamanism does not teach vertical, hierarchical, religion. Contemporary Shamanism teaches freedom from those things if done correctly and with the purpose of showing us that the sacred, such as it is, simply is the world and that the Spirit of Life, the Great Spirit, The Holy Spirit, The Spirit that connects us all connects us for a deeper meaning to unfold our full potential to better those that will come after us. It is living in uncertainty and understanding that all is coincidence.

I never took a course in Shaminism but I call myself one. I often wonder who taught the first Shaman to be a Shaman. My calling came to me in a series of dreams, this was last March, and then it was given to me on what journey I must take in this biological world. My totem is the bear and through the bear I am beginning to totally comprehend my direct connection to everything living. And through coincidence, which I find is given through the Spirit, I have come to further practice and understand Shamanism. It is good and does bring healing and does bring people together in a healthy way. It gives them awe in the sacredness of life.

It is good when those you touch begin reaching out to touch others. Mr. Hanson’s conclusion to finding utopia is, as he writes, “If we don't impose our notions of sacred, goodness, power, and importance on our visions, ourselves, and the other beings we encounter, we may be able finally to rest.” I find his conclusion funny because I can look out my window now and see homes where people have become so lonely and mentally screwed because our notions of sacred, goodness, power, and importance on our visions, ourselves, and other beings are not being imposed on our neighbors, our friends, or our loved ones. They are resting in quicksand because the Shaman has not taken an active role in the community, circle of friends, or family.

Those who have been awakened to the calling of Shamanism must now move forward into the life of people searching for a human touch of Spirit and healing. If you don't teach them sacredness someone else will... Our biggest teacher today, and the shame of it all, has become the television and that is an illusion of what real scredness is.

Shamanism is not a money maker. Take as many courses as you want. When your called you are called and when you’re not you are not. Can we begin to envision communities where there is a Shaman that lives in the neighborhood and people go to him or her to heal… and the wounds to be healed in this day of age are complex and sometimes and it takes much time and relationship to figure some things out… it takes a journey with people who have lost the ability to create.  Many people today have become mumuckbees.

Who was the one that taught the first Shaman his or her practice? I believe it came to him or her as a dream of a better way of life that had become so insane with envy and jealousy and materialism and abusive group power being controlled by an unseen few. And the first Shaman knew that his hands, the power to reach out and touch, and feel, and rub, and hold was beginning of all healing. And this dream came into being because the notions of the sacred, goodness, non-abusive power, and importance on our visions, ourselves, and the other beings we encounter were not being used and people had become Mumuckbees.

And what is a Mumuckbee? Someone that has forgotten about his or her own Spirit of Life, and they walk through life only gathering berries and hunting rabbit and think “That’s it… now what should I watch for the next five hours tonight on this spiritless screen because my mind needs numbing out of this total consuming hell I call paradise.” Mumuckbees have forgotten their connection to the sacred and to each other and to the Spirit and to the earth. Their hands do not touch the sacred as they must, and when touched by a sacred thought, or hand, they flinch as if it hurts.

We are living in Dave’s Hanson’s dream… just look around at all the people talking about the sacredness of their lives and then watch them as they flinch or pull back or fall asleep watching the evening news. 

Peter,

Peter,

I think this was a great rebuttal, and that you really fleshed out some of the negatives that Dave seems to be working through.

One thing though:

You write, "I find his conclusion funny because I can look out my window now and see homes where people have become so lonely and mentally screwed because our notions of sacred, goodness, power, and importance on our visions, ourselves, and other beings are not being imposed on our neighbors, our friends, or our loved ones. They are resting in quicksand because the Shaman has not taken an active role in the community, circle of friends, or family." I have trouble with this only because of the semantics of the word impose or imposition.

I certainly can't speak for people en mass, but, for me anyhow, anyone that tries to impose their beliefs, feelings, practices, ideologies, dogmas, well-intentioned advice, etc. is a complete and immediate turn-off and tune-out. I have to agree that those individuals that have discovered their own spiritual paths are currently elusive in our societies, and that we, as a searching spiritual community (those of us that seek and perhaps some on that cusp of that search) could use more guidance.

However, it is the individual that must seek that help, and hopefully s/he can find it through the compassion of a willing shamanic friend. I am of the bent that every one of us has our own path to follow, our own route to blaze, and while the presence shamanic (or any other trailblazing assistance) help would probably make this transition to the integration of spirit, matter, space, and time somewhat *easier* (for lack of a better term), it is only the individual that can come to the conclusion that that is a path worth seeking out.

So, imposing, impose, and imposition seem, in a real way, as sort of an autocratic, authoritarian, or despotic means to show people that light. A means, I think, that would like do nothing but backfire. And while I doubt that this is what you meant when you replied to Dave, I felt the need to address this little semantic foray.

Folks are going to need to find their own way, but along that way surely we will all need to cooperate, share wisdom, and exchange advise. Viva l'open source spirituality.

Confucius say...

Do not impose on others what you yourself do not desire. — Confucius

Remember...

It is important to distinguish between a Shaman and a Healer. Case in point; a close friend of mind recently had a conversation with some Lakota folks he has done training with. He explained about a situation in his life that he thought would require a shaman. They said "oh no you need a Medicine Man Healer...a Shaman is someone you would call in only in the last resort. They are crazy and will eat all your food..."

Tell Your Friend...

To tell the Lakota that I'm trying my best to learn. And then tell your friend to ask the Lakota this riddle...

"A man stands at a window all day and all night. When he tires he turns out the light and goes to sleep. Upon waking the next morning, he turns on the radio, and hers the news of a ship crashing of the coast and over four hundred people dead. He feels so so so guilty that he dies because he did not do his job through good times or bad... Why does he feel guilty?"

And then ask your friend to ask them this... Imagine that a man no matter his race, nationality, or age had a series of dreams. Now imagine this man's first dream was he dressed as a bear running up a mountain and when he reached the top, a spear went thru his chest, and he then awoke knowing that dream was telling him something special about himself. Now imagine this same man who may be a Lakota, or not, had another dream in which he was in a room with warriors of every nationality and he was being pushed and bumped around for not being American Indian enough by the American Indian Warriors. And imagine still in this dream that a American Indian Shaman walked up to this man and blessed him with the biggest hawk feather one has ever seen.

Now imagine in a third dream this man saw a totom pole and carved on the bottom of this totom pole was a bear and then nothing carved on the pole three or four levels above the bear but on the very top was the face of a what the man only knew to be a Shaman....

Now imagine that this man also heals at times too. Ask your friend to ask them how without ever meeting a Lakota they would help this man discover his true identity which he should then label himself. Is he a medicine man or Shaman?

And you tell your friend to tell the Lakota if they didn't get the riddle... here's a hint... the ships are coming in. What shall we awaken too? Ask them what tribe is manning the lighthouse.

shaman/healer

ok, my vision as becoming a poet, was to become some kind of visionary, i had no idea how to become this visionary, so upon reading about Crazy Horse, things began making me crazy, it prolly had something to do with the healer/shaman deal, in order to become a visionary i had to undergo the shamanic journey, or in this case , my own allowing for the journey to happen, i did this on some level that resonated with what i had to experience at that time.I have since seen this journey as a kind of time warp experience, in that it all plays backwards as in Alice in the looking glass, so to illustrate, years later i was reading Nietzsche, i came upon an notion, about Nietzsche's co-called madness at the tail end of his life, i had this vision of Nietzsche seeing himself reflected in a Horse's eye(Crazy Horse) he was seeing the whole Eternal Return of the Same, he was seeing himself going backwards through all of his theories, his art , his musings, his Zarathustra, seeing it all go back to the beginning, thus his madness ran backwards, not forwards, so i see him as being like a shaman to the human all too human, he allowed himself to dance with the star, his vision, his experience, his experiment, were all put into the final brush stroke to his colossal painting the Twilight of the Idols.Like a seed planted in the future of humankind. Others will then, do what they have been doing, will write books about his books, will make theories of his theories, will sing his "YES" or shout anathema NO, they will condemn him in absentia, they will look like characters in a Bosch painting and eyes smoldering with hate, will point a million fingers at his " God is Dead" And Nietzsche in that moment of reverse enlightenment, entered the Crazy Horses's eye.

So, i too, entered the Horse's eye, through some fluke of time and space, i too looked into the seething Abyss, and saw something looking back.And i would have chosen healer, yet, this time around it was like being dropped from a Mothership and counting backwards to 2012, 1979, 76, 75, 74 , 73, 72, 71, and feel i can see something that Crazy Horse saw, its like a huge orange colored cloud sitting on the black hills of Dakota, it is whirling around so fast and yet it is stationary, in that cloud he sees a great warrior on a horse the sky around the cloud is going from day to night in rapid sucession, the horse and rider figure is changing too, it is like a window in the shape of the figure, behind that window is something like petroglyphs telling the story, a rainbow of signs bleeding from the buried heart at Wounded Knee.

I wake in a start and look down at the piece of paper and see the few words i had scralled, i look at the calender, and its 1971 the poem i had written:

it says: I am writing this poem from the future

i fell from grace from some place i cannot remember

my fall like the leaves of golden fire from the top

of the universe tree...I was standing on the street corner

talking to el stranger...oh sweet chariot...i'm fallin so low

voices of angels i cannot tell..i hear a horn playin in the

distance...a lil Satchmo... oh when the saints, oh when the

saints...i wanna be in that number...to see it coming that

the crucified image becomes the story opening in two

pieces...a pair of hands fly away like two released doves...

end of time...the Cosmos song...playin, marchin in,

i wanna be in that magic number...500...a train whistle

blowin somewhere...off to the left...a river...i am a

metaphysical river the flux and the flow my eyes are

watering as they rush over the small round stones...snakin

snakin...a long age from the birth of time...cave tree branches reachin like veins of silver....

 

...midnights that gallop in star mountains of mystery

that tumble toward the great churning events in...

gushing-glyph whirling dimension-diamond wave mirrors...i wanna be in that...book of the coming forth...

cipher...when the gypsy saints go walkin in...St. James

visions marchin in the New Orleans twilight...a hard antique rain, cryin, cryin, down down, fallen, fallen...

...those preachers.. forget the crimes of war in those those not so chosen times, fallen, harder, harder, a sea of tears,

eat the body...and drink the river of blood...flood of my song, if the river was whiskey,

kickin the gone buddha gong around a few gulpa kulpas,

of sything cycles, feathers fallen from on high... forgot yesterday, today, and tomorrow...crazy, crazy as a 8

i wanna be in that poetic howling number...

 

the cheap pushbutton pen falls from the poet's numb fingers...it's late.

 

return to Earth home -- how? (shaman capitalism?)

This matches my experience/intuition that real shamanism is a deeper type of experience associated with the totality of one's experiences and intentions -- a depth of fidelity and experience that can not be rendered merely from a retreat or class on shamanism (which is not to say such retreats/classes are not informative, mind-opening or therapeutic; but that transcending is a progressive occurence whose depth can be anticipated to par with one's total lifework). On how we return to our Earth home in durable fashion, I wonder: - can we do it without vestiges of contemporary life and culture? - can we get there without an Aikido-like leveraging of tools or elements of contemporary life and culture (which we might call: shaman capitalism)? (related previous comment at http://preview.tinyurl.com/5h8qn7 ) Reed Burkhart (merely "one reed" among many :-)

The warrior

Archetypical madness,what we see yesterday, labrythinian dreams,what we see tomorrow, mercurial oceans with crashing waves left suspended in thick death laden currents of unbreathable air, what we see right now.  

There are few willing bodies capable, few willing minds, many willing spirits, and many is... many, I've seen this.  

There are few who will ride into the belly of the great breast.  There are few whose feet will leave the ground and fly high enough to reach its mind.  Many brave spirits, though, many.

When my body dies I go to the land of the spirits.  My work is forever healing as spirits do, forever but there is no burden.

When my mind dies I go to the world of stories.  My honor will carry my deeds for endless nights on the tongues of my tribe.

When my spirit...

When bodies die, they are gone.  Minds die, gone.  Spirits do not die, but renew by their very nature.

It is not so easy to battle when there is something to loose.  That's where a warrior comes in.  Peace

~BeTween uS~& ears~

High Psi ~ .... with my little 'I' ... something makin me wana die, ohh mymy ... i cry .... ohh my .. .............   ...... .. ........ 'If' you're ever updown uphere ... in mutation zone .. you'll know .... real well,,, we 'can't' 'just' . ,,,, hang up the phone ,,, y'll 'know', we 'never' can ... and just 'be' 'alone' ... at rest ... at home .... no intercomb .... safe locked in 'our' little mental dome .... call it 'your own' .. ahh ahh . . hell can wait ..... cuz.. you'll be late .... for your 'none' fate .. .. ........ .... ....... . Perception is ... as perception does. .... extrazensorry? ... wot? ... you feel a 'buzz' .. 'fuzz! ... & you know it's .. be-cuz! .. fuzzyfuzz.... . dis-lodge-ic is .. . as dislogic does... ...... ... .. . . ...... . Bang yer drum .... . till a trance'll come..., articulate voice message. .. from their discarnate mum . .... & pray yourself free of the nastyspiritscum ... ohh well done.. . well done... ..........  .. . .. .. . Hang that flat iron ... from your chest .... & 'you' .... can do so in your vest, .. . passing every mundane test.. .. you're the best. way ahead .... of all the rest,... woh!.. i'm impressed .. you've been so blessed..    .... ...... ...... ... ..........     Bend the spoon ..... & Wowww! ... ... flick the page,... . p.k. the saltpot, ... across the stage, .. all the rage .. you mustbe really ... some kinda 'mage'.. . . or sage.. .. earn your wage .. . tying angels down.. in your twisted .. steelbar-reled . head cage ... . ...... Eventually ... 'maybe', you'll ... come of age.. . unrequested & unpleasant help... to fix that faulty gauge .. yha swallowed all the gilded page.. ..... ... ... ..... ....,,,,,,.... ... ~Big Time Sur-chasm~

Big Sur

the first time i was there, or maybe the second, we were all piled in a flowered painted Volkswagon bus, we were on our way to the eternal Summer of Love, we jumped out of the magic bus, and walked down that winding trail with mossy ferns and fairy lights down to the ancient future beach, my eyes made love to everything i saw, the multi-colored pebbles on the shimmering sand, the mystic cliffs rising up behind me the rolling emerald waves crashing on the forever shore.We meditated on the kaleidoscope sun just above the deep blue sea watched it melt its crystal tears into the unfathomable horizon.I tried to take a permanent picture with my mind's eye, tried to make a place for a memory that would not fade over time, to see everything with that vision, even as i knew this moment was fleeting...that 1968 would be a beautiful jewel in the thousand petaled lotus...and years later when i returned to the Sur on a fire fighting crew and i was on them mars like burned slopes, i could look over and see in the direction where i had drawn that eternal memory in the sand next to the ocean that would wipe it away with the next wave.I had placed my magic wish there.

Your prose

in this passage is particularly beautiful. The description glows. 

 

Mutation

While the “brief experiences of integration” stimulated by shamans, and other forms of spiritual practice may help consensus consciousness to nudge this civilization into the future, I agree with Furinoa that mutation is “the correct term for what we need to survive”. There’s simply no time left for ‘nudges’ to do the trick.

Not only is there no time, but there are no existing or proposed ‘normal’ ideas profound enough to fit within the time remaining. What of the paranormal?

My take on paranormal instances occurring with greater frequency today is that the veil that separates us from alternate realities is progressively thinning. Popular instances of these breakthroughs are like weeping leaks in meta-reality, dripping their droplets of reality into our own. I don’t have to name them all (Crop Formations, UFO’s, etc.). You can name all of your personal favorites.

Only one gaping puncture, in only one area, is all it’ll take to shift consciousness on a global scale. After JUST ONE of these punctures, there will be an unstoppable influence of altered consciousness flooding humanity, and an immediate fundamental mutation will occur within us all.

Let me give just one possible example (You can afterward choose your own pet leak). I’m currently reading a scholarly publication entitled Twenty Cases Suggestive of Reincarnation - second edition revised and enlarged, by Ian Stevenson, M.D. What if this particular leak (Past Life Memories) exploded into a flood and we all simultaneously remembered our most recent past life? This “Mutation” would immediately and permanently alter our perception of reality. We would all immediately recognize our connectedness in an undeniable way. What had once been only a suspicion, would now be patently REAL! In one brief birth of seeming madness we would all pop our heads out of our individualistic womb and KNOW!

“Hey, I know you! We used to hunt buffalo together before the European invasion of America!"

I can’t say which leak in the fabric of our narrowly defined reality connecting ours to another's will breakthrough first, and it really doesn’t matter. Once we have absorbed the shock of the first birthing, other breaches will follow at a pace most of us can psychologically and emotionally survive.

This, I believe, is a possible "breakthrough"; one possible source of the necessary mutation phase of our human evolution.

This, I believe, is the type of mutation Furinoa was thinking about.

 

 

"everything means something"

nudges are not enough

Hi Don,

Yes it seems as though the veils are getting pretty thin in places....what with all the phenomena.

Spontaneous,simultaneous remembering of all past and future lives as the mutation....that would be something to experience...and was one of the reasons I liked the Bene Gesserit of Dune so much.

The way to remembering past lives as it is now is a slow and arduous process.The induction part of it bores me to tears....and doesnt always work successfully....and if it does then its the regression itself which can be quite arduous.....I have a couple of regressions I've been avoiding doing because of that.

Still....there are good reasons for slow and steady....I think it would be too traumatising for a complete remembering of pastlives to occur for the unready.So maybe it'd be better just for those who are.

And something else for the others.

Slow and steady

Hi Monkeyblood,

In my own personal experience, the student inside was always prepared when the teacher arrived, though I suspect--looking at all the psychological wreckage around me--that some people are not always ready. I wonder if a mutation will follow the same pattern, and not all will successfully adapt?

 My hope is that the mutation will be a bite digestible enough for the ready and willing among us. Maybe, just one past life memory to start things off?

 

Also, after reading many futurist books, I'm convinced that there's just not enough time left for slow and steady. So many crises... so little time to neutralize them.

 

Thirdly, I'm searching for a means of evolution for humanity, which doesn't sent us back into primitive ways of life or blindly slaughter millions, but projects us forward in synchrony with past evolutionary developments.

 

Fourthly, I'm looking for an evolutionary mutation, which takes into account the murky end-times prophesies of all known civilizations, and which, when it is all behind us, can be seen as a fulfillment in the context of out present (future) perspective.

 

I believe that many of the fundamentals for any evolution are already at work within the entity that is evolving, and so, since the veil between our reality and others is already so porous, and we seem--as a tribe consisting of suitable and numerous enough individuals--psychologically ready, this qualifies as a great place to look for an evolutionary mutation.

 

People laugh, or scoff, at the mind-expanding sixties perhaps not realizing that some of it might have been a dress rehearsal.

 

Thanks for commenting on my post, monkeyblood. It helps to know I’m not alone in my insanity!

 

 

"everything means something"

The clock is ticking

....no,we're not alone,Don,....its you,me and a couple of billion Hindus,Buddhists and assorted others...laugh.

The great value of past life exploration is that it shakes up the box that is mundane reality and also gives a greater understanding of self-all those habits,predelictions and relationships.

I agree with you about the possibility of a mutation,and the necessity for it.I dont think many people are unaware of an increasing build up of tension on many fronts and the need for change.

On a personal level if that mutation was a spontaneous awakening of all lives I'd be very happy.

Its been a goal of mine for many years-I remember reading of Pythagora's experience where he recognized a shield of his,when he was Euphorbus of Troy,and when they turned the shield over the name was inscribed there....I thought, 'I want that ability to remember'....it was a very strong desire which I've followed with some success....but I think it is as Brian George wrote, 'Deep memory will be opened by an inner clock'.

Maybe the clock is near to striking.

1 size fits all

Just 'one' dream ..can split the seam... prepared show the whole of life to gleen ..... just a partial mind ......your's,,, you'll find.... full of aspects of creator kind ..... . just a passing phase remind .... ... .how really .. we'er kept deaf & blind ..... just 'one' world each ..you'll see,, like me, reality & perception..... neither random nore free................... ~Became The Story~

Thanks

Thanks to all of you who have responded to my essay. I appreciate your thoughtful and stimulating comments. Your thoughts lead me to more of my own. Comments about anarcho-primitivism are especially relevant. It is one thing to sit on the earth as part of it and another to envision how we can get from here to there as a community. I believe we must somehow make that journey. Each of us can work to merge into our biological/spiritual home. In that process we may be shown the way. Or, maybe not. Thanks again, Dave Hanson

i just wanted to add

that when i became a surrealist poet, it sounds odd even saying that, i became anything rather then nothing be that as it is in order to write form a place of authentic will to art, i have to say that surrealism is a lot like shamanic technique, in that i understood from the beginning that this was a hard kind of knowledge, that bring up images from the unconscious and learning to manifest them to the light of day from that dark of night, is like putting on a mask of a black bird, it is like putting on this mask of birds and walking down the street naked.Except you are doing it on an invisible level, you are making conscious that which, is written between the lines of history, and taking on a frightful aspect, to say and think the things that others never even let cross their minds least they go mad, yet this aspect is what confronts us everyday, the grotesque head of religion and politics, and the world at large that perpetuate the terrible illusion that this is normal sane reality.That killing machines and confession booths go hand in hand, and the profane and the arcane also go hand in hand, we are living in a world that has lost its sense of direction, that ships that once navigated by the stars also held that the edge of the earth was just beyond thier imaginations , and at the place where was called "here be dragons" and once again we are at that edge, but now its not dragons, it is the unidentified flying object of our next transition as a human consciousness, to go where none has gone before.Now shake your rattle and rattle your shake, and call on all your alies and animal totems and let the planets roll.There be anarchy out there.

and as SunRa always say: Space is the place.

The mask thing... Thanks for the reminder Mr. Moore

Four weeks from today, on September 14th, 2008, I will be dancing the Bear Trample Dance on Main Street in Cincinnati, Ohio at or around 11:00. I will be celebrating life, as it will be the first anniversary of when I reentered life from death.

Nobody has ever danced the Bear Trample Dance before... ever! How can you help me? I need the mask or head of a bear to bring his medicine to others as I trample into dust all the addictions, worries, and problems (in the form of sand) tossed in a dancing circle of drummers before I dance them into dust.

If anyone can help me with the mask or head or if you would like to send me a box of your addictions, worries, or problems -- I'll make sure it gets into the center of the circle.

The bear head or mask will be worn with dignity... as he crushes the addictions, problems, and worries of all.  It will be good medicine.

Send to: Peter "Sunturtle" Deane
6331 Cambridge Ave. #3
Cincinnati, Ohio 45230

P.S. If you have any questions you can email me at peterdeane@zoomtown.com.

All are welcome to attend... Thanks, and hope to see you there.  You can also dance, if you like.

Sorry, if the post is a little off subject Mr. Hanson but just felt this was a good place and time to ask.

some months ago

i had my old iMac and there was an image that got stuck as my page, that came up the google one, it was an image of a bear, an a native American bear figurine, so for a few months it just was there, i did not remove it, so the bear is a powerful healing image,some years ago when i use to dream more lucid, more of the time, i had a image come and it was i was told that my totem was the shark.I understand this as the shark being the misunderstood hunter of the deep.I see this as a shamanic-type-poet that when we enter the deep unconscious, or superconscious, or the imagination, we must go deep and hunt for the images that others cannot see, but being shark like must be misunderstood, and be seen as the predator, must take on that mask, it if often that the surrealist warrior must wear the goats horns, or the mysterious one that has no face only eyes, or becomes like a dear in the forest, a white buffalo, a prophetic birth, a jellyfish, a mollusc, a eagle, a hawk, a crow, a creek running through the underground, a stone, a mineral.Must dance when the drums play slow, make like a flapping,make like crazy cat, become ghost like, must sing the cosmos song.Caw Caw Caw, put on grin and bear hug it.

Pretty rad.

I would certainly run with that as a good enough example of mutation.  What I was referencing was mainly Gebser's idea of the emergence of the "integral" consciousness structure through what he terms a "mutation."  I think what you discuss, Don, is something akin to Man realizing that Time is not unidirectional, but rather ever-present in our experience. 

 While currently we only "know" time as a uni-directional river, if we could begin to understand it like one of our spacial dimensions - we would be able to navigate it in similar ways, access to past-lives memories, etc.  The whole idea of the 4-dimensional consciousness presents us, with our strictly 3 dimensions/time model as having many contradictions, but, I think, this is due to the fact that much like examples in Flatworld, we simply cannot understand it before we begin to experience it.

 I'd also like to say this is no reason to just sit around and wait - the world still burns, and we must do our best to put out the fires no matter what our current state of consciousness is.

Sorry...

Sorry, I ass-umed that you were thinking what I was thinking.

My appreciation of many thoughts that are related here in RS comments is limited to what I've read lately. I've only recently escaped from a thirty-year enslavment to a mind-numbing sect, but I'm catching up rapidly.

 

I'm going to order the Jean Gebser book you mentioned because the relationship between consciousness and time is of great interest to me.

 

Yes, mass memories of past lives would have the effect of altering our fundamental concept of time. Especially if some of our memories were from a FUTURE past-life.

 

More immediately helpful would be the sudden realization of intimacy among us. If it's possible that my neighbors child is the most recent incarnation of my mom, and she can prove it by historical and anecdotal evidence, then in an immediately recognizable and emotionally demonstrable way I am connected to this person. Therefter relationship becomes a mystery of wonderfully interconnected posibilities. In that environment, how could we kill, or injure, or abuse someone else? Instantly, everyone becomes a possible relative!

 

The time/consciousness facit of such a reality would be a fascinating, but somewhat esoteric curiosity by comparison to its immediatly practical effect on humanity. 

 

 

"everything means something"

Hey now

 

"Especially if some of our memories were from a FUTURE past-life."

 

That's absolutely beautiful

No need for apologies.

"Sorry, I ass-umed that you were thinking what I was thinking."

And in many ways you were correct.  I love the way you see the possibility of reincarnational rememberance playing itself out.  It's givin' me a great deal to ponder over the last couple of days.

 

we've got it simple

Dave, I see it simple; words can't stop us now. I can feel your intelligence and I follow the path of every word you write. I guess my whole thing is I take two steps back before I look too hard. Shamans. Warriors. Kids. Questions always need to be asked, answers to words will never be given. There is an army of urban shamans who continue to progress exponentially with time speeding up. Training? Ritual? Not today, no time. Words need to be simplified. Energy needs to take a vocal stance. To simplify the scope is to leave frustration. The only criteria is an open mind. the music