Sex, Abundance and Sustainability

This article was written with Gary Wilson.
If you correct your mind, the rest of your life will fall into place.
This is because the mind is the governing aspect of a human life.
Eliminate mental muddiness and obscurity; keep your mind crystal clear.
Quiet your emotions and abide in serenity.
--Hua Hu Ching (collection of Daoist wisdom)
Fed up with the Dow? Try the Dao. Esoteric traditions teach that our thoughts shape our experience of reality. In today's world, where structures that once seemed granite-solid are shattering like falling icicles, what ability could be more welcome than using conscious thoughts to bring about abundance, sanity and sustainability for a change?
In my experience, the concept of conscious creation is valid -- with a few caveats. First, the most significant choice I can make in shaping my reality is whether to follow my impulses or steer for inner equilibrium and clearer perception. Second, the way I manage my sexual energy plays an unsuspected role in my ability to maintain clear perception. Third, although I can definitely use my thoughts to improve my own experience, it takes a critical mass of us to change the course of our collective reality.
Why can't I have what I want?
If our thoughts manifest on the material plane, why don't we get exactly what we wish for? I believe the answer is subtle but simple. It's not just our conscious commands that mold our experience. Powerful gut feelings and the expectations they trigger play an even greater role in shaping our reality.
For example, we weren't visualizing global financial bubbles and economic collapse. So how did we collectively manage such a dismal outcome? It's a reflection of our inner turmoil. Unless we're feeling balanced, safe and whole, what we attract seldom meets our expectations. In fact, the more erratic, selfish, anxious or impulsive we feel, the more chaotic our results. As we'll see, these intense feelings also equate with neurochemical changes occurring deep in a part of the brain common to all mammals.
Think of Aladdin rubbing a magic lamp, except that his lamp takes into account his state of mind as he rubs. Let's say he's feeling irritable and sorry for himself. What he calls forth will automatically incorporate these elements. Maybe he feverishly chants "Ferrari, Ferrari, Ferrari," but his lamp spits out a sleek, swift, ill-tempered camel.
Since we humans are always using our magic lamps (consciously or not), we benefit from tactics that let us do so for the good of all. Sages have proposed various approaches. For example, ninth century Indian mystic Shantideva understood the cause and effect of desires, and therefore counseled selflessness:
All the joy the world contains has come through wishing happiness for others. All the misery the world contains has come through wanting pleasure for oneself.
The Buddhists teach their own strategy. Cravings and aversions create suffering, so we overcome suffering by keeping a steady, calm and attentive state of mind. By watching our thoughts, we gradually keep them from galloping off in impulsive directions to manifest as short-term pleasures and long-term misery.
Still other mystics emphasize the wisdom of aligning our wills with a force beyond our short-sighted human aims. Christians seek this end with the prayer "Thy will be done." Daoists record multiple techniques to align with the Dao (the river of unseen energy that gives life to all of creation). Examples include feng shui, the I Ching (an ancient oracle), ch'i kung, acupuncture, and the cultivation of balanced sexual energy.
Sex's secret gift
The first Daoist book I read on cultivating sexual energy rang a profound bell. Sure, there was the niggling emphasis on avoiding orgasm and making love in a relaxed way (huh?), but at the same time the descriptions of effortless merging sounded so right. I wanted to learn more.
What I learned was not what I expected to learn. After many bruises and breakthroughs, I realized that the Daoists were right. Sex is a mighty tool for centering, balancing and aligning ourselves with the harmonious flow of life (in which our needs are met effortlessly in concert with everyone else's).
My husband and I have been experimenting with this peaceful form of lovemaking for the eight years of our relationship. Both of us are delighted with the harmony between us, which is a far cry from the unsettling dramas of our previous relationships, and the unexpected decrease in sexual frustration. We have also experienced some profound healing and a continued, surprising flow of abundance.
We keep asking ourselves if we're just extraordinarily lucky. Life isn't perfect, of course, but when we stick to this practice, life seems as exhilarating as zipping downstream in a white-water raft. We negotiate its challenges more like skilled rafters, laugh a lot, and feel good about our many accomplishments. Our needs are fewer, even setbacks seem to turn out well, and we also enjoy the times when we can allow the current to carry us while we relax.
After an inadvertent orgasm, however, we generally have the sense that our raft is hung up on unseen rocks and tree roots, or that no matter how hard we paddle we are being diverted out of the main channel into backwater, or even that we've flipped over in the rapids. Uneventful periods feel more like doldrums than opportunities to reenergize. Struggles arise, and the harmony between us is a bit strained.
Mind you, these very different impressions never seem to have a connection with our sex life, but after years of experimentation, the correlation is evident. Coming into alignment with the Dao appears to be a function of inner equilibrium, the very opposite of intense stimulation followed by a slow return to balance. (More on that in a moment.)
To understand our results, it helps to begin where the Daoists did. Sex can be used two different ways: for short-term pleasure and fertilization or for creating deep, lingering feelings of wholeness and serenity. One term for the latter approach is "angelic dual cultivation."
"Where ordinary intercourse is effortful, angelic cultivation [also called "the tai chi of sexual intercourse"] is calm, relaxed, quiet, and natural. Where ordinary intercourse unites sex organs with sex organs, angelic cultivation unites spirit with spirit, mind with mind, and every cell of one body with every cell of the other body. Culminating not in dissolution but in integration, it is an opportunity for a man and woman to mutually transform and uplift each other into the realm of bliss and wholeness."[i]
Imagine the wonders we humans could create if enough of us were in this tranquil, fulfilled state of mind? Also, notice how this description differs from most recipes for sexual tantra (or even modern Daoist teachings). With some exceptions,[ii] tantra tends to employ sex as a potent drug, a means of gaining an intense altered state prior to orgasm.
The hidden passion cycle
Despite its glorious pleasures, orgasm whips up inner turbulence -- without our awareness. As one Daoist text of ancient teachings explains, ordinary intercourse places all emphasis upon the sexual organs, and whatever physical energy is accumulated is summarily discharged. The subtle energies are also dissipated and disordered. "It is a great backward leap."[iii]
Whoa! Orgasm...causes problems? This claim struck me as bizarre when I first came across it -- especially because I read it in a book written by men.[iv] I've since learned that new lovers always react just as I did, because for them a temporary dose of honeymoon neurochemistry masks the evidence of the subtle, flickering changes that follow orgasm. Nevertheless, modern research is starting to confirm that orgasm indeed dissipates and disorders our subtle energies-because it's the peak of a longer cycle.[v]
Deep in a primitive part of the brain known as the reward circuitry, orgasm equates with a mighty surge of a neurochemical called dopamine. It's the "I've gotta have it" neurochemical. It drives mammals to do things that furthered their ancestors' survival, whether on not those things are in their individual best interests. In mankind's case these things include the tendency to gorge on high-calorie food, take risks with little attention to long-term consequences, and above all, gratify our sexual desire. In other words, it is not the job of these primitive impulses to move us toward lasting harmony, happiness, or heightened spiritual awareness. Nor toward abundance and sustainability. Bummer.
When dopamine surges during sexual arousal we feel as invincible as a hedge fund mogul unfettered by regulation, foresight, or concern for others. Indeed a Dutch scientist reported that brain scans of people having orgasm resemble those of people shooting heroin.[vi] However, just like a drug high, this temporary infusion of feel-good neurochemicals at climax does not last. Dopamine drops after orgasm, and other neurochemical shifts can make dopamine levels bounce around for days.
Without dopamine at its ideal levels during the recovery period, our feelings and even our perception of the world can vacillate. In a recent experiment, subjects whose dopamine was artificially lowered had difficulty resisting short-term rewards despite long-term negative consequences.[vii]
This neurochemical roller coaster ride (or "passion cycle") typically creates unnecessary turbulence for up to two weeks -- although most of us certainly will not connect any wobbles in perception with the great sex that caused them. At most we realize that we, or more likely, our partner, seems irritable, over-sensitive, defensive, unforgiving, apathetic, unloving, clingy, hyperactive, or whatever.
Often we have a sense that something isn't right. Something is missing (adequate dopamine). Maybe we're bored. We definitely feel as if our needs aren't being met. Sadly, such feelings can paradoxically increase sexual frustration while making us less enthusiastic about emotional closeness. When dopamine drops, a lover may suddenly look like cold pizza, causing us to wonder if we picked the wrong person. This hidden mammalian program urges us toward new love interests (which always offer a dopamine rush of anticipation). Yet we pair-bonding humans tend to be the big losers when we pull away from our best source of feelings of wholeness and balance: affectionate contact with a close, trusted mate.
In any event, the lower the low (that is, the more intense the initial high), the more it tends to impair our concentration and agitate us. We're now primed for any hint of relief -- that is, anything that will raise our dopamine and make us feel good again.
Why wait out the discomfort until we come back into balance naturally? If we just take a risk, or pursue a high (or a novel partner), our dopamine will instantly soar above normal levels and we'll feel like Superman again. Of course a spike of dopamine also tends to make us self-absorbed and single-minded about pursuing our chosen cure. This can make us do things we would not even consider doing if we were in balance.
So it is that we unwittingly train ourselves to bounce from penthouse to basement and back again -- while losing touch with life in the center. Worse yet, too much stimulation actually desensitizes us. We get less and less bang for our buck, and must seek novel, or more extreme, stimulation to find relief. Could it be that the latest financial crash is a signal that humanity reached a tipping point where the good feelings of the highs could no longer mask the lows they inevitably produce? Think bubbles and bursting bubbles.
As we'll see in a moment, sex could help sustain inner equilibrium. Yet the typical passion cycle is an example of how the body-mind connection can set us on an erratic course of highs and lows when instincts alone pilot us. Climax innocently shifts our neurochemistry, our feelings fluctuate, our perceptions temporarily become clouded, and even our values and priorities may waver -- all without our conscious awareness. The passion cycle built into fertilization-driven sex can thus naturally give rise not only to the good feelings of orgasm, but also to the emotional extremes, angst and impulsive, self-centered behavior that the sages warn against.
Sex: problem and solution
Ancient Daoist sages taught that sex is like fire or water. Fire and water, they noted, could aid a man...or kill him. The Daoists mastered a way to use sex without mood swings. They observed that intercourse itself is beneficial to both lovers, an effective tool for creating deep feelings of lingering wholeness. Sure enough, recent research supports the idea that affectionate contact between partners reduces stress, speeds healing, improves immunity, and strengthens emotional bonds.[viii]
By making love without intense neurochemical highs (orgasm, or the edge of orgasm), ancient Daoists not only escaped subsequent lows, but recorded heavenly feelings of profound inner peace. Their sex manuals, such as Secrets of the Jade Chamber and The Dangers and Benefits of Intercourse with Women, actually refer to the phenomenon of man and woman achieving immortality together through conservation of sexual energy. (You'd definitely want a solid 401(k) retirement fund in this event!)
Dangers and Benefits says this profound state is achieved through a combination of deep penetration, low arousal, and visualizations of energy moving through the body.[ix] Exposition of Cultivating the True Essence explains that lovers can only tap this hidden potential in sex when the unstable male sexual energy (1) is aroused without "bursting out," (2) welcomes the more stable yin energy, and (3) fuses with it.[x]
Whatever its ultimate potential, sex may be one of the most accessible fulcrums for shifting our collective mindset from recklessness and scarcity to abundance and sustainability. At present when we make love we unthinkingly hop onto the roller coaster of highs and lows (subtle or pronounced). Yet with some practice we could be using sex to move beyond the self-generated dissatisfaction that leads us to clutch at each new temptation. With stable feelings of wholeness and inner peace, it's easier to make inspired choices that serve our collective best interest.
"Those in future generations who study and practice the truth of these teachings will be blessed. They will acquire the subtle light of wisdom, the mighty sword of clarity that cuts through all obstruction, and the mystical pearl of understanding that envelops the entire universe. They will attain the insight necessary to perceive the integral truth of the Dao. Following this truth with unabashed sincerity, they will become it: whole, courageous, indestructible, unnamable."[xi] --Daoist master, Laozi (Lao Tzu)
[i] Hua Hu Ching, trans. Brian Walker, (HarperSanFrancisco: 1992): Section 69, p. 88.
[ii] Diana Richardson, The Heart of Tantric Sex, (Australia: O Books, 2003).
[iii] Hua Hu Ching: Section 69, p. 88.
[iv] Mantak Chia (and Michael Winn), Taoist Secrets of Love: Cultivating Male Sexual Energy (NY: Aurora Press, 1984).
[v] Marnia Robinson, Cupid's Poisoned Arrow: From Habit to Harmony in Sexual Relationships (Berkeley: North Atlantic Books, 2009): chapter 5.
[vi] Gert Holstege, et al., "Brain Activation during Human Male Ejaculation," The Journal of Neuroscience, (October, 2003) 23(27): 9185-9193; and "Orgasm Akin to a Shot of Heroin." Holstege's comments in the Dutch press in 2003: http://www.reuniting.info/science/orgasm_akin_to_heroin_shot.
[vii] Lieuwe de Haan, et al, "Subjective Experiences During Dopamine Depletion," Am J Psychiatry (September, 2005) 162:1755.
[viii] Robinson, Cupid's Poisoned Arrow: chapters 7 and 8.
[ix] Douglas Wile, The Art of the Bedchamber (New York: State University of New York Press, 1992): 45, 48.
[x] Ibid: 8, 50.
[xi] Hua Hu Ching: Section 79, p. 103.
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Tantra for Traders
I was under the impression that alot of similar techniques had to do with transforming & deepening the orgasm into a more expansive & embodied, more enrichening, sensation (and seperating ejaculation from orgasm for men)... but your angle seems to be (I say seems because you don't actually give any practical methods or detailed descriptions of what you're alluding to) a complete cessation of orgasm in favour of a more meditative, gentle-motioned, deep joining enjoyment of each other... but without ever working to the crest of orgasm? just one long beautiful electric protraction?
Now, I can see the benefit of this as a practise, it tends to happen naturally every now & then for us anyway & is beautiful & welcomed...
But to do this to the exclusion of orgasm, as opposed to sort of mixing them up a bit, seems a bit extreme... unless you're the sort of person who orgasm really destabilises maybe...
and also, seeing as you seem to be aiming this tantra at traders (way of the dow?) perhaps they should first look at all the other less healthy ways they spike their dopamine - like junk food, cocaine & trading itself..!
anyway, all this talk of orgasm has me a bit tense, I'm off to rub my magic lamp...
interesting
High after orgasm
Some things stated as inevitably in this article, like that the high of orgasm will always be followed by a low afterwards, are in contradiction with my own experience. By applying yogic/tantric knowledge consequently on the mind energy and body level I achieve orgasms that leave me energized and uplifted for 1 to 3 days, with an impressing boost especially on the creative level. What is needed for that is to maintain the energy at a really, really high level for long enough (say at least half an hour constant stimulation, better a full hour or more), slipping just a millimeter before orgasm often enough, applying mulabhanda (PC muscle) often and especially after orgasm, and most important,
most important,
most important,
keep a good dharana (koncentration) on a suitable object (e.g. partner, body, mantra, yantra, chakra, energyflow, projection, whatever) so that I avoid feeding the demons, spirits, komplexes, downwardspirals, pictures, fixations, fetishes ov my mind with the sexual energy created.
Especially during orgasm.
Hatha Yoga Pradipika
Sloka 87
"The semen that is about to fall into the yoni ov the women should be moved with practice upwards. If the semen falls out the semen (bindu) and the fluid ov the women (rajas) should be preserved by beeing sucked upwards."
(Applying Mulabhanda, the rootlock, tightening the PC-muscle and anus.
As Swami Satyananda explains further, the bodily fluids are not as important as the energy movements normaly accompaning their expulsion)
Love and Light
hmmmm....
Are you sure you don't mean the avoidance of ejaculation as opposed to avoiding orgasm? Avoiding orgasm smells like puritanism couched as Taoist wisdom. If one is present to the ecstasy of love-making, then orgasm is something that happens naturally. As long as there is some disclipline in the process of love-making, orgasm is a great gift. I feel consistently fed and nourished by my orgasms. Of course- I don't just let them the go the first second I feel that I want to cum. I build myself up and prolong the energy, open up the microcosmic circuit to feed the brain, store some of the energy in my lower dan tien or navel chakra. And I am talking masturbation here since I don't have a partner.
Avoiding orgasm seems like telling a kid, "Here- have this lollipop- but don't enjoy it too much- just a little bit." Egyptian tantra is ALL about orgasm. They didn't even really care what you did to get to orgasm. But they had a very strict application for what to do during orgasm so that it would feed your energy field and higher centers in the brain. This is obviously too much to get into for the purposes of this response. But another thing I wanted to mention is that I don't feel like we should be encouraging the avoidance of intense emotions in the most intense chaotic time the world has ever seen. Or else we feed the robot paradigm.
SASS (Sex Abundance Sensual Sustainability)
GREAT! Thankyou for a wonderful post.
Please write a book, go on talk shows, give interviews, make documentaries and get this information out there! It is essential.
The dopamine bit is excellent. For the moment there was only the energetic explanation. This goes beyond empiric, suits our materialistic paradigme.
You might want to check out Dr. Rudolf Von Urban. He was one of Freud's favored disciples. His research led him to postulate what he called bio-magnetic potential and how the exchange of it in a couple was what created an exalted, successful relationship. Not orgasm, which disappated the charge and created insatisfaction (three days worth a pop). I read his book 35 years ago and have been have been trying to spread the word since. The dopamine aspect sure adds power to the concept.
Kudos!
Thanks for your comments
It's my hope that people will do whatever they like with this information in terms of actual practice. We recommend that if a couple wants to play with the ideas, they try daily soothing affection and gentle intercourse ending in relaxation instead of orgasm for at least three weeks...and then return to conventional sex with orgasm and watch the quality of the interaction between them over the next two weeks.
The type of experiment recommended above should make the hidden cycle of orgasm apparent, although if you're like me, you will need to make the experiment a number of times before you really integrate what you are learning.
By the way, couples who find structure comforting may wish to experiment using the three weeks of "Ecstatic Exchanges" in the back of Cupid's Poisoned Arrow: From Habit to Harmony in Sexual Relationships. The book also has a lot more details about the effects of sex on the brain, and lots of practical tips about what actually strengthens emotional bonds between couples - useful for those who desire long-term relationships.
My husband and I enjoy the increased harmony between us, and in our lives, so much that we no longer "go for" orgasm. However, it still happens now and then, which allows us to see the cycle again. Incidentally, I, too, have experienced highs that last for several days after orgasm, so that may not be uncommon in women. However, I (and other women) have also noticed unwelcome mood swings thereafter - if not sooner. My husband's pattern is generally to feel the effects of orgasm most in the first week, and to feel unusually horny for about two weeks. But no two cycles are exactly identical.
Even after years of experience, it still fascinates us that these subtle mood changes are part of the orgasm cycle...and at work in all our lives at a subconscious level.
Sacred Orgasm
Non-Sexual
In some of the more esoteric "Vedic" literatures, they mention how the "dopamine" and/or other "chemical pleasures" are actually there only to insure we continue to procreate.
In other words when sexual fluids are releaeed there is actually great trauma caused by the body ... great loss ...
It takes a pound of blood to produce a drop of semen. It can take the body up to 45 days to fully replace the continence of just one seminal ejaculation.
If we were not "coated over" with chemical pleasure responses, we might just for-go such "sacrifice" of our very "inherency" ...
Yet to create another life such is required.
Another point is that if this sexual fluid is retained, and not exhausted, it leads to finer subtle evolutions of thought and feeling.
"Sukriti" is a Sanskrit word that refers to this state of refined intelligence.... A deeper "ideological mellow" does evolve....
This is why certain "Tantric" practices promote the retention of sexual fluids, while "enticing" the mellows of the lower to higher progressive chakra's without allowing the "karmic culmination" to "overtake" the actual process of ongoing yoga.
The sacrifice of semen was only sanctioned for the production of life.
There was one Hare Krsna fellow, a Guru who died some years back at age 70. At age 50 he retired from family life and became a monk.
However even in his family life he was so trained up in this "Vedic Science" that while he was married he only "passed semen" 7 times ... and he had 7 children.
There are whole "yajna's" or sacrificial sciences of how to engage our will in sesxual activity, above and beyond the emotional-chemical complex ... if in fact one cares to understand and/or practise such art.
Talk about population control. Imagine a planet with zero contraception ... zero lust.
One can actually, through all kinds of subtle foreplay enjoy all the mellows of exchange without full blown release.
The peak of any experience is the very "seed of loss" ... it being our going through the "cycle" of associated thoughts and feelings that determine our life's "dharma" ... not the the relative "karma's" of eaxh categorical plateau {whether good or bad}
Like seasonal changes, as one gets older and wiser it is the very cycle of life itself that deepens ones understanding ... not the birth of Spring .. or Summers peak.
Yet such peak experiences, just like actual "loss" ... do indeed have their place ... in balancing out ones complacency with ongoing inertia.
The sexual revolution ... leading to anonymous "feel-up booths" at Burning Man" is sometimes justified relative to the undue collective sexual repressions of previous centuries. {fair enough}
Yet if all pasr karmic cycles are preparing for a "cosmic rebooting" around 2012 .. then all these relative momentums will be ... are ... finishing up.
Free to only do whatever I feel/want ... free to never have to only do what I feel/want ...
What will the wisdom of the age be treaching us.
I don't agree
I can't agree with this, simply because I don't experience orgasm or ejaculation in this way, nor do many people in the gay culture I live in.
I worry about this analysis and its scientistic, heteronormative lense.I'd like to say more soon, but until then, I ask you to consider other possibilities than the man-woman orgasm and not to generalize on The Function of the Orgasm from that.
C
Perspective and practice...
Vexing
I think this material is especially difficult to accept for people, like me, who come from backgrounds of compulsion, addiction, fundamentalism, etc. Why? Because no orgasm sex really works wonders. And what works, for people healing from addiction and fundamentalism, etc, is easily made into another "thing" to get hooked on. It's easy. The love making, even if it's avoiding orgasm, can produce similar, perhaps subtler, effects as orgasm if it is clung onto as the "answer of all answers." It creates another kind of imbalance that can feed into the love-making and create more frustration or addiction.
So, in other words, for those people hooked on orgasm this style of love-making may not make for an easy or smooth transition. It's not a quick fix. It takes time, patience, experimenting, optimism, and the ability to be honest and reflect while giving the practice a serious "Go" over the long haul.
I personally think this practice is more suited for monogamy because of the fact that it doesn't seem accessible very "quickly." My partner and I have tried, then failed, then tried, then failed, over 9 months, and are just now starting to begin to understand what the orgasm cycle does to the body/mind/energy systems.
All the talk about "tantra," to me, is possible, but I think it's a pretty advanced practice for most people. And often I think the "tantra" card is played, intellectually, in order to avoid really trying a non-orgasm sexual practice.
It's interesting to note that ayahuasca shamans, for example, are not allowed to orgasm during most of their apprenticeship. It's considered incredibly dangerous.Even afterward, from what I've seen in the jungle, ayahuasca shamans are wary of orgasms.
Anyway you slice it, doesn't our world need a little more love for love's sake, rather than love for the sake of orgasm? Just thinking out loud...
Adam Elenbaas
a dangerous path...
Why are we assigning a grand "purpose" to orgasm and sex, and why, especially, is that purpose to keep heterosexual relationships balanced and functioning?
I find the whole thing a bit distasteful, to be frank.
It seems too much like a negation of the possibilities of orgasm - of which there are many not presented in this article (nor the earlier article in RS about "orgasm addiction").
The Eastern conception that may be inappropriate for other cultures or and the heteronormative conception that may be inappropriate for gay and lesbian cultures.
This is part of a larger problem which filters down into homophobia even in so-thought-of "peaceful" Eastern religious structures which are often just as fascistic as Western ones.
Beyond what smacks me as a narrow cultural lens, I think there's something problematic about the quick switch happening here between a possible spiritual function and a perceived moral value.
The prescriptive model of religious value goes like this: Orgasm causes highs and lows. No orgasm brings harmony. Don't have orgasms.
- And so it goes until ONE aspect of function becomes dogma.
Instead, why not value the highs and the lows? Why not, also, see that harmony in relationship is not the only way to live. (And, of course, see that there are plenty of relationships in which orgasm does NOT hinder the relationship; that orgasm does not, in fact, function the same way in all relatrionships - even according to Taoists sexual practice).
This is a dangerous way of thinking that risks becoming body-negating and fascist - it strikes me as even more dangerous when applied to bodies, to sexuality.
There are, to be sure spiritual functions and meanings behind physical actions - but a healthy spiritual outlook does not moralize based on these functions and and meanings.
C
Smacks?
I don't think anybody is assigning a grand purpose to orgasm. I think what's being suggested is that people often think of sex as something that happens en route to blowing your load. I think that people who, for example, see a good looking super model in a bathing suit (male, female, straight, gay, or whatever else), and contemplate intimacy are few and far between.
I think most people who see supermodels and are excited contemplate getting off.
Also, this happens in relationships, straight, gay, and otherwise. Couples get hooked on sex, and while making love are having private experiences, private fantasies, while using each other's bodies to get off. Each to their own, but I think this kind of love making is harmful to the mind and body and planet.
Maybe you find the argument distasteful because it's pressing some kind of button? If I'm honest, essays that push my buttons are usually good ones, even if I hate what they have to say. Hate, and distaste, and passionate responses, are all indications of, well, passion!
I don't know about this being "dangerous," though. That seems pretty extreme. Instead of telling us that the article negates the possibilities of orgasm, why don't you share what the possibilities are? If somebody is missing something, then make it happen.
Really, homophobia? Lame. I am friends with a number of homosexuals who have found no-orgasm sex to be a wonderful practice for their partnerships as well.
I like how you broke things down so simply. This philosophy is this, this this, it equals dogmatism (kind of dogmatic in and of itself, really).
However, what I think you miss out on is the joy of defining your terms. What do you mean by orgasm? What do you mean by highs and lows? What do you mean by harmony?
Everybodies answers to those questions will probably be different. The important thing is not to make the assumption that because an argument is present, the terms of that argument are being universally defined. It's easy to get threatened when you assume that confrontation (or having to hash out terms of an argument) will be rocky. It doesn't have to be that way.
To me, and I'm sure I wouldn't feel this way if we met and had some tea or something, you sound dogmatic, not this philosophy of love making and not Marnia's postion (no pun intended). People are dogmatic, right? Not concepts.
You say, "why not value highs and lows; why not see that harmony in relationship is not the only way to live?"
I say, it sounds like you feel good about who you are and what you're practicing. So why not explain the "joy" of chaos. Explain the value of dischordancy and the highs and lows you apparently love so much.
I'd be more curious to hear what you have to say about that than I would to hear you blast something it doesn't sound like you've taken the time to get to know (but, then, maybe you have, in which case your personal experience would still be better than your response).
Finally, you say, "a healthy spiritual outlook does not moralize based on these functions and meanings." Again, what do you mean by functions and meanings? And, lastly, would you consider this last view of yours to be a moralized position, or just you blowing off some steam?
I used to have orgasms to blow off steam; you know what I mean?
Thanks for this good grit to grind against. Good talk. I'll be excited to hear your response (I hope I get a good rebuttle!)
peace,
Adam Elenbaas
Thank you Conner
....for your perspective....fascism,dogma springs eternal in all things....and particularly with sexuality....which so many people have deep unconscious hangups about....also anything to do with sex can never be a 'one size fits all'.....we all have different constitutional strengths and weakness....first thing a person really has to find out is 'what is my essential sexual temperament.'
Interface mechanisms of bliss...
How far does it go?
What Is Orgasm?
Well
Marnia, Trés interesting and counter to just about everything I've learned. Thank you so much; this will form hours of thought. I was really enjoying the comments, including all of you wondering if I'm including you, but after Adam's well structured and fulfilling rebuttle I was unfulfilled to see that M. Habib hadn't added anything in touché. M. Habib, please understand that I found your questions provocative and reflective of my own questions. I only write because of how typical this repartee seemed to conclude: with no gd satisfaction.
Jacob
interested, but not convinced
This is all very interesting, and I certainly agree that most of us are deeply habit-bound around sex. Working with those habits has been a part of my yoga/meditation practice for a long time, and now I finally have a partner who is willing to experiment with me--yipee!
I am willing to experiment with the method Marina describes, but I admit to a certain amount of skepticism, as I have consistently found that I am calmer, have more consistent mood and greater capacity for joy and intimacy when I allow my sexual/creative energy to flow as strongly and abundantly as it wants to. This can mean spending doing ecstatic dance, or singing and praying at the river as well as expressing myself in more traditionally "sexual" ways--but often it includes multiple orgasms...Whether I am partnered or not, I do best when I have a regular sexual practice with myself as part of my asana/pranayama practice. I guess some folks who have commented here would conclude that I am just an addict who's bitchy if she can't get her fix, and like most of us, I have my addictive tendencies and my deeply rooted karmic habits. But I don't think that's the end of the story.
Most of the ancient literature on this subject I've read seems to be written by and for males. Even among the commenters on this website, many of whom are clearly more deeply informed than I am, most seem to be talking about the benefits to males of abstaining from orgasm--or perhaps only ejaculation. I remain unconvinced that these pertain to females to the same extent. With all due respect to Mantauk Chia, I think we are still waiting for a rediscovery--or perhaps reinvention--of ancient wisdom regarding the appropriate cultivation and use of female sexual energy.
As to sucking sexual energy up the spine, maybe this was an absolutely essential practice for everyone everywhere once upon a time, but I am a healer and I observe that many, if not most, of my clients today suffer deeply from not being able to go down and connect with the earth. Far from being mired in their lower chakras, they seem to be cut off at about the solar plexus! This is especially true of many of my female clients, but I see it many males as well--especially those who are deeply sensitive and repelled by the history of patriarchal violence in which they feel implicated by virtue of their genitals...I don't think more "going up" is called for in these cases. In my own healing journey,I have experienced many benefits from encouraging (via breathing and visualization) my own sexual energy to move through blocked, deeply injured places in my pelvis and hips to my frequently-injured, weak ankles and feet. This has, for instance, dramatically improved my balance--physically and psychically, because of course there is no difference.
So thanks for this interesting grist for the mill, but I remain unconvinced that there is one form of mindful sexual practice which is best for all people at all times, let alone for the planet. Given the current state of affairs, I'm pretty happy to see people experimenting with any and all forms of mindfulness toward sexual energy.
I don't agree with this viewpoint about orgasm at all
I strongly disagree with the idea that orgasm somehow makes us all screwy and disconnected and edgy and such. I find a good one really turbo-charges my mind, brains, creativity, and also makes it easier to access higher states of consciousness for a long time afterwards. I do run my sexual energy in a way I learned over time from mystical experiences and high powered surfing, but I do not hold off orgasm---I find it is extremely beneficial on every level if its a good orgasm and a good sexual connection.
I'd also say orgasm enhances rather than disrupts wholeness. . . this article is 180 degrees opposite my experience.
So, the author must have very different sex and very different orgasms than I do. Mine make me way more, not less, whole.
As for this idea that I can restrain my impulses after having an orgasm is absurd. I am way more centered and content, way less likely to go off on a tangent, way better integrated, and I am happy, content, cenetered and better aligned with my Tao.
To each their own, but I think its kind of questionable to promote this viewpoint as 'The Truth' when so many fokls would say the opposite.
It may be the author's truth, but then it should be stated as such.
As for ancient texts saying this IS the way, you can find an ancient text to support almost anything you want to say.
I wonder why sexual orgasm is so fragmenting for this author . . . I sure know lots of folks that don't feel that way about it at all.
Blessings . . .johngriggsknewtim
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Orgasm - Where does the energy go..
I thought i should throw another perspective into the mix, just to provide some food for thought. It does not belong to me and is not my observation; the following belongs to Richard Rose, an Enlightened farmer from West Virginia (deceased), who experienced Sahaja Samadhi at 30 years of age.
Celibacy has always been right at the centre of every true mystical philosophy, it is one of the core esoteric teachings to be found in all systems of self-realization. Despite the proclamation by Western medicine men that not releasing is harmful, men have been praciticing celibacy for thousands of years and to great success. It is the conscious will to not indulge in ANY sexual release.. it isn't just about non-ejaculation as some "tantra experts" claim, orgasm must not be indulged in either.. for it is that energy that is usually wasted which is needed to propel a person into a spiritual experience. The sublimation of this energy is known as the process of Kundalini.
No one ever asks themselves where that orgasmic energy goes during a release, and it was the belief of Mr Rose that this energy is "tapped" by a class of organism that is beyond our sense of sight. Infact these mental parasites he believed were intimately involved in the sexual reverie of a person, they were essentially responsible for provoking the person into arousal and then release. To the average individual this idea seems absurd.. but when you think about the sheer excess of sexual indulgence by humans compared to other animals you have to wonder. It only takes one encounter, then nine months, to produce another human.. yet people are having sex all the time. Why? We could rationalize many different reasons, human reasons, but it is possible that the energy is being harvested in the same way we milk cows on a farm. This was the belief of Mr Rose.
If you wish to investigate this further i recommend the book "The Sex Connection" by Alan Fitzpatrick, which explores this psychology by Richard Rose. It will challenge the way you think about sex, that much is certain. Here is an interview with the author briefly discussing the book: http://www.richardrosepsychology.com/teach.html
Hope this has given you something to think about :)