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Salvia Divinorum: Intensification

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The following is excerpted from Salvia Divinorum: Doorway to Thought-Free Awareness, available from Inner Traditions.

 

It was in my first year of experimentation that my experiences with Salvia Divinorum began to take on an increasing sense of realness that was both alarming and exhilarating. I was beginning to feel that I was becoming connected to a genuine "place" that entailed both psychological and physical dimensions.

During this period, I was also becoming increasingly familiar with this state and the inhabitants that were becoming the focus of these events. The fact that I would encounter these personages on a consistent basis was beginning to define the nature of the experience itself. I was feeling more of an emotional connection that was slowly, but decidedly, coming into focus. The vignettes that presented themselves were of a more personal nature than before, with more interaction from my companions. What had once manifested as a meaningless cacophony was gradually becoming transformed into a coherent, approachable phenomenon. Although the entire course of the event was alien and uncontrollable, there still remained an increasing interest in the connectedness that was gradually unfolding.

In order to remember as much as possible about the experiences I was undergoing, I began to keep an occasional journal detailing some of the more salient events. At the time, I had mixed feelings about committing my experiences to paper. I thought that it might, on some level, be antithetical to the genuine alien nature of these experiences, which, by their very nature, could barely be recalled, much less described accurately in words. It was as if I was afraid I might jeopardize the flow of interaction I was experiencing by focusing my ordinary awareness on the state. I thought that, perhaps, I should simply experience these events and not look back.

I also had no reason to believe that the successive trials would entail any dramatic progression beyond what I was already witnessing. To have a journal of consecutive incidents seemed an amusing, but arbitrary, waste of time. The radical nature of the experiences I was having, coupled with my wish to recount, as completely as possible, the nature of these experiences with a few close friends, however, overcame my reticence. Generally I would record my passages on the day following the event, but after a period of time, I began my recounting within an hour of returning to my normal state. This tended to facilitate a more complete retelling of the events, as well as to augment my memory with the still lingering flavor of the excursion.

One particular event during this initial period was especially vivid and can serve to illustrate the general tenor of my experiences at the time. From my notes:

 

One bowl 5X Mazatecan:

After smoking one bowl, the effects were instantaneous. Immediately, I saw a symmetrical flower, perhaps eight pointed, which opened into the other world, as I sensed the presence of beings, simultaneously. The immediacy of the change was startling. There was quite a bit of disorientation. I sensed that there was someone there. Suddenly, I encountered a male about forty or fifty years old with a black mustache. He appeared to be Mexican. It occurred to me that he might somehow be connected with the salvia I had just smoked -- possibly a farmer or some sort of guardian of the plants. He was laughing good naturedly at my growing predicament -- I could not remember who I was or from where I'd come.* I knew that I had another life somewhere but couldn't remember anything about it. I couldn't remember whether I was an adult or a child and was quite disoriented.

Suddenly, a very raucous parade, complete with marching band, flags, and a bass drum engulfed me. This was also so bizarrely out of context that I felt even more bewildered. The parade came from my right. After a moment of horrifying confusion, I realized that the parade was a prank performed by an old man who also appeared off to my right. He was older than the first and very thin. He had evidently concocted the parade as a way of teasing me about my amnesic predicament.

Just then, two young girls entered the scene. They were about eleven years old, possibly twins, and were evidently daughters of the Mexican. They had black hair pulled back into buns and were wearing skirts and black shoes. They were also laughing, aware of my situation, and teasing me. One of them, as a way of describing my inability to remember where I was from, began joking. She said something, which on some level I found precise and hilarious, and I attempted to repeat what she had said. When I began to speak, I was unable to form the words. At the same time, I realized that it was a language that I couldn't speak. Evidently, to demonstrate my anxiety about my loss of memory, she leaped down and put her foot into a crevice in the floor -- which was not flat, but looked organic, like a living being. I noticed that I was standing, perhaps ankle deep in this crevice, which was not unlike a huge vagina. This somehow was meant to demonstrate my predicament. They were all laughing good-naturedly at me, including the old man, who apparently was the uncle of the girls.

Shortly after this, the scene began to lose its intensity and slowly began to slip away. There was an image of a cloth slowly descending -- as when someone is making a bed and the airborne sheet slowly comes to rest on the mattress. It was at this point that I began to remember who I was, along with some of the details of my other life.

 

During this time, similar vignettes would present themselves. I would find myself in circumstances that were at once foreign yet familiar. In all of these instances, I would be at a total loss as to who I was, how old I was, or from where I'd come. On some level, I was aware that I'd initiated some sort of action that had led me to that circumstance, but could not remember that it had been to smoke a hallucinogenic substance, or that I began the journey sitting in a chair in a small workshop. Although to focus on this amnesic state could lead to increasing panic, one could just as easily let go and simply perceive what was unfolding.

Indeed, it seems that this is one of the salient features of salvia -- it allows one, in some sense even instructs one -- to gradually, and without fear, abandon the framework of reason that's based on a cumbersome conceptual reference, and that is never called into question throughout the course of one's life. It's been my experience that salvia can lead to a unique state that one might characterize as "thoughtless awareness." This state, although on the surface seemingly paradoxical, is actually strangely and reassuringly familiar. It's as if, with repeated trances, one develops this skill gradually and effortlessly, leading to a genuine, what might be termed "functional awareness" that seems inherently essential for this type of ­exploration.

It was during this time that a particular episode occurred that, in retrospect, I hold significant, although at the time, I regarded as inconsequential. After smoking, I experienced the usual onset of images. Within a few moments, the state focused somewhat, and I found myself in the presence of an older woman. She was of slight build and seemed to be either Haitian or perhaps East Indian. She was wearing a long skirt and headscarf and seemed to be performing an odd action with her hands, as if she were drawing something apart or perhaps kneading and pulling an imaginary doughlike substance -- it seemed reminiscent of playing the "cat's cradle" string game, only without the string. She had a bored demeanor and said, almost off handedly, "You're accepted." On some level, it was implied that this was connected with a type of proficiency at "letting go,"although these feelings were very vague. It was as if she, personally, couldn't care less about the information she was relaying -- it seemed as though she was merely fulfilling a task. Within moments, the scene faded and I found myself returning to a normal state.

The next morning, I was initially hesitant to relate the story to E., since it would sound so pompous, while at the same time the experience itself had little or no emotional impact. I thought it was just another scene that was part of the flood of random images that I was encountering and thought no more about it. I didn't bother writing the ­experience down.

About a week later, I decided to smoke again. I followed my usual routine. This time, however, something was different. Even now, years later, it is difficult to pinpoint exactly what this difference entailed. Somehow, on some level, the state had stabilized. I was now returning to the same place, although this place did not necessarily entail location, in the normal sense. It was rather a state or feeling that had gained some sort of perceptual and emotional solidity. Although all the various external features of the visions were different, there was something that I was returning to -- something was becoming familiar. In subsequent experiences, there would open up an entire range of feelings that was always somehow rooted in this abstract stable place.

 

Comments

The Salvia Realm

"It's been my experience that salvia can lead to a unique state that one might characterize as "thoughtless awareness." This state, although on the surface seemingly paradoxical, is actually strangely and reassuringly familiar." I can relate to this. My last few trips into the salvia realm, although by far the most abstract and difficult to describe, instilled upon me a sense of 'normalcy,' or a return to a state/awareness that was once commonplace. It is as if there was a method to the madness of salvia, and although I cannot begin to describe the process, it was successful in re-introducing and re-familiarizing my consciousness with the infinite realms and time surrounding and coursing through me.

First thanks for this post.

First thanks for this post. it got me interested in reading this book. i never smoked the extract. A friend of mine told me that it is a very interesting experience, the only negative to it that it lasts only aproximately 5 minutes. I would like to know if  if there is already a method found by which you can prolong the experience. I understand that MOA inhibitors don't work(at least that was the general conclusion so far), but is there already found another compound that does do the trick?Thanks for your attention

I've had many trips that

I've had many trips that last about 20 minutes, but it is a rather short timespan. I don't know if you have tried other hallucinogenic drugs, but often time can seem very drug out because of the intensity of experience you're undergoing. I am not sure if I would want to have a daylong salvia trip, nor can I tell you a surefire way on how to do so. Perhaps if you used the extract and then began chewing the leaves if would prolong the comedown somewhat?

Oral vs smoked

Benno, You are right in assuming that straight ingestion is not the way you want to go. I am not sure if it the MOAs directly or not, but in any event the Salvinorin A degrades much too quickly in the stomach to taken up by the system, not to mention the first pass metabolism in the liver and the rapid normal metabolism of the compound would likely prevent an experience if ingested. However, one is able to absorb the active compounds through the mucous membranes in the mouth. There are two main ways this can be achieved, either by chewing rehydrated leaves for about half an hour without spitting or swallowing the juices, or by purchasing or preparing a tincture in high-proof ethanol. This allows you to hold a small amount of concentrated liquid under the tongue. People are often advised to dilute the tincture with warm water or tea to mitigate the harshness of the alcohol, again holding the mixture for about half an hour at which point all of the desired chemicals would be absorbed into the body. Personally I have no experience with either of these methods, only experimenting with dried extract in the past. These oral methods are reported to have a more prolonged onset and extended duration depending on the dosage. I have been told that the experience is not quite as sudden and totally disorienting as smoking, but as for particulars I cannot help. Make sure you use this medicine respectfully and under the watch of a trusted sitter. It is very difficult to plan how the mind/body will react to the onslaught of foreign ideas and visions, so prepare accordingly.

Sub-lingual extract

I have tried both smoking and sub-lingual ingestion. Smoke is very fast. I experienced a deep experience that has forever changed my comprehension of reality. I would never recommend it to anyone: going there must be a personal decision and should not be glamorized or promoted or taken lightly. I understood for the first time what Terrence McKenna meant when he said "Boy, I really did it this time." With sub-lingual, the intensity is much easier to control. It is still possible to have the intensity with a large amount. For further information, I would recommend watching this McKenna video

Excellent

Great insights and thank you. I had the sense, with Salvia, of returning to a former nostalgia, like a dream from childhood or something. That sense of "return to normalcy" you mention was definitely there, but I also had this sense that it was the normalcy I've lost in the wake of the "loss of innocence" of adulthood. Perhaps it's the gnosis of being "like that of a child" as the Christ and other spiritual figures taught. Either way, you're on the money that the experience isn't as coherent as other trips and therefore harder to describe other than with just a general description of the feeling or state of mind.

Sagewise and Otherwise

Skin erupts crystalline, frozen flesh made teeth

space block fractures, fault-lines grinding light

void dragging, pulling turgid tipping labyrinths

a focal remnant; the axis of rotational notation.

 

I saw them, they saw me; in infinite moment

howling by through long fractal night, until

clambered giggled gasp crosses event horizon

shedding wonderous tears, at first breath of æon

The Parade

Thank you for this fascinating post. I have also experienced a bizarre parade while on a salvia journey. I was floating over a strange city inhabited by robotic gnome-like beings. They were having a parade, complete with drums, brass and flags. They were waving and shouting at me, beckoning me to come and join them. I tried, but as I descended, I went right through their "street". From below, I could here their disappointed moans as I moved through their underworld and back to my own reality.

Deja-Vu???

This sense of nostalgia that you speak about, is it a deja-vu like experience? I have this almost every time with LSD. While hesitant to read too much into it for fear of self-delusion, it does seem interesting that this feeling is universal with psychedelics...maybe fear is unfounded in this respect? "With the aid of the perishable phenomenon, get at the Imperishable Noumenon" - Shri Ramakrishna

These are the first comments

These are the first comments I've run across that touch on the feeling of nostalgia during a Salvia experience. It very exciting to know that others have had similar experiences. I wrote this in my journal after my first break-though experience: In the moment it takes to lean back against the pillows I am gone. Completely. My identity as John, my awareness of being a distinct sentient life form, even, has melted away. The fabric of the universe appears to be emerging out of and then folding back into a rotating kaleidoscopic pinwheel of shiny bright surfaces, each of which looks like the sleek, futuristic tail lights and fins of the 1960 Chevy Impala. The distinction between sound and spatial dimension dissolves and re-emerges. Ideas, concepts and intellectual constructs are indistinguishable from concrete visual and auditory phenomena. The universe is bright and sunny and clean. Gradually, awareness of myself as a discrete and separate entity grows until I am overcome with worry and feel massive confusion. I sense that I have forgotten something important, dropped the ball somehow, but I don't know what to do. I decide to just surrender to my confusion, relax and wait for whatever will come next. I am vaguely worried that I am going to be scolded for something. At some point I am seeing what I can only describe as the visual representation of the quiet background noise of old 60's television shows that I used to watch as a child whenever I was sick and stayed home from school. Hazel, The Farmer's Daughter, Perry Mason, Hawaiian Eye, Krazy Kat. The sound/vision is comforting in its familiarity. And then something is coalescing out of the sound, a face. For a long time it is utterly incomprehensible. And then, the thrill of recognition hits me as I realize that I am looking at Alicia. She is sitting on the floor next to me, smiling. I am lying on the floor in my bedroom. I start laughing. I am giddy with mirth and joy. I look at her smiling face and say "That... was the coolest thing. Ever."

So Many Similarities

"I sense that I have forgotten something important, dropped the ball somehow"  &  "I am vaguely worried that I am going to be scolded for something"  These two statements are EXACTLY the same realizations that I go thru when coming off a heavy extract dose. For me the "dropping of the ball" seemed to mean I(including us/all of humanity) dropped it for all of humanity(I/us), on a HUGE scale, like I(us/humanity) had a chance do fix it all, but failed. Accompanying this is the revelation the I(us/humainty)have had many previous chances and always failed, then the feeling that there are not many more chances left. As for the "being scolded part" that for me is feeling like a child who got into the locked room that his father told him never to enter, and knowing you are gonna be caught. Not that the room is a bad, horrible, or scary place but more like by entering I'm seeing behind the curtain, seeing the divine workings of the universe and God, and it isn't as though I'm not allowed to know, it fact quite the contrary. When in the room you know you've alwasy known, but it's like the timing is wrong, especially as pieces of your current earthly existence start to penetrate the experience. Hence the feeling of a pending scolding for "jumping back and forth" from different realities and "seeing behind the curtain" of their workings. I really find it beyond coincidence that there are so many similar experiences. In fact I was lucky I didn't get hurt my first time with extract and a torch lighter. Before that I had only smoked small hits witha bad light and had minimal effect(less then pot). But when I used the torch and took 2 huge hits it was much more then I had bargained for. It was as I was holding in the 2nd hit when an Invisible Wall pressed up against me so hard that in mid speech my words slurred and I began rolling with the now turning invisible wall. I sensed a different world and entitys around myself. I swear I heard one/them say "We got another one stuck" I remember saying/thinking "No I'm good I am about out of this, I just want to go back and play with my brother" soon I was back to earthly reality. But it was so much of a shock I went right for a bowl of pot to calm down. I was at a park with a friend who thought I was faking at first, when I said I don't recomend that. I am 39 years old and haven't "played with my brother" in about 30 years, I had read nothing on Salvia before that and since have read so many similar experiences.

similar experience..

very odd reading your report. i too have encountered mexican people standing over me, laughing at my predicament at the beginning of the experience. i also recall school girls laughing at me as well, skipping and pointing.... this generally occurs a the start of the experience and almost always involves mexican people. sometimes a whole bunch of them standing over me, sometimes only one or two. they are generally laughing at me or pointing the finger and saying 'you shouldn't of done that, you've really gone too far now'... what it means? who knows.

Similarities

Great reading your comment--the same "feel" as the things I've encountered. I always find it interesting when similarities like this occur. These types of experiences are baffling. The fact they they can be widespread and consistent is even more baffling. 

The interesting thing is that my experiences were by no means unique. The fact that many people encounter people, references to the dead, scenarios of beckoning, etc. when smoking salvia is fascinating as well as incomprehensible. 

Hm


To say that salvia will do anything at all in particular is assuming a lot. my own opinion: NEVER AGAIN EVER. Also, just going to point out in a respectful though internet-comment way that the opening paragraph of this article made me say "woo woo" aloud.

My take on its familiarity

      Sally D, when taken as a tincture under my tongue, will give me a three to four hour experience, at the height of which alters my perception of time similar to my Holotropic Breathwork experience of Unity Consciousness where  time ceased to exist. But with Sally, before time ceases to exist, it runs backward for a while (soft music like XM Radio's Spa channel helps a lot). It's at once an overwhelming feeling for a time-bound creature to experience, yet it is also quite familiar. I understand it to be a taste of the forgotten environment in the between-life.

      At the end of my excursion, and sometimes for a day or more afterward, I feel an uplifting emotional afterglow similar to LSD and Mescaline.

      Despite my positive experiences however, I treat Sally with the utmost respect, and consider infrequent use, and the importance of set-and-setting as a way to honor her extraordinary beauty.

 

Interesting to read all the

Interesting to read all the experiences people here have had with Salvia. I've tried it myself using the smoking method, and I can say that nothing at all extraordinary happened...nothing at all. While smoking it, I did get an immediate disoriented feeling, and it was anything but pleasurable. I felt "emotionally queasy" if that makes sense and I couldn't wait for the feeling to end. I had no visual hallucinations, I didn't float above my house, I didn't receive any "visitors" as some here have claimed, and there was no feeling of euphoria associated with it. Overall, it was a very unpleasant, and thankfully shortlived experience. Never again. I'll stick with mushrooms.

thank you guys for your

thank you guys for your information.

For ConsciousObserver

When smoking it needs to be taken in a large dose, all at once, a bowl won't cut it, think bigger. Thank you JD my own experiences have been incredible, but scattered. I felt like I was living in a flip book the first time. The second time gave me the incredible unfolding experience of life that I believe to be the only time I actually "felt" how life really works. Your experiences have made me yearn for the next time.

RotateLexicon

Why the change in title?


Reading Peopled Darkness inspired me to write a drone which attempts to capture the essence of my experience with salvia. http://cortexelation.com/mp3/cortexelation-10-rotatelexicon.mp3 It begins with strings, sitar, and guitar in sweet meditation. I start audio recording. I bubble up. The transformation of reality takes place quickly. The instruments anthropomorphise, grab me, and rip me out of the subjective universe. I find myself in an Aztec-like world, with pyramids, surrounded by shamans. I am a shaman, in trance. I realize my old life was a drug-induced hallucination (the irony). I attempt to communicate to my friends in the old universe, speaking is a struggle, there is a delay between the will to speak and the perception of having spoken. I am a kaleidoscope. "I'm having some of my emotions as..." (sounds in the song are from the real experience) My friends laugh, the sounds are bizarre and encircle me. "I gotta get back.." 

I jettison the universe find myself in the Honeycomb -- the multiverse geometric tessellation of infinitely fractaling subjective self universes. I see tens of thousands of copies of my first-person perspective, each in a slightly altered parallel universe. "I'm a whole bunch of people.." I am flying high above all the universes. Universes as far as I can see. I do not dare turn around to gaze at the immensity of this structure. I am petrified of dying of astonishment. I realize I can fly back into any subjective-universe I want. The feeling is like looking into a kaleidoscope, seeing the direct real view in the center, seeing all the reflections of that view patterned outward, and then somehow having the ability to change which reflection is the real one, and being able to zoom in on it and adopt that point of view.

The drone returns but is dissonant. I end up in a parallel universe which was not the one I came from. I return to reality. I have no idea who I am. I feel tense. My body feels like a glove that is too tight. As if my soul was trying to jam itself back in, but didn't quite fit. My friends ask me questions, and reintroduce me to who I am. I'm astonished, and amused, and feel like I lucked out with this universe, because I'm awesome, and I can play guitar pretty well. I feel like my soul is really old, that I've been traveling from subjective-self-universe to subjective-self-universe for eons. I feel like I had gotten this universe in a marketplace, and got a good deal.

I become comfortable, and trust that my feelings will return to normal within an hour, and that my ego and memory will reintegrate. I see this as neither a good nor bad thing. I promptly find isolation in the kitchen and start writing in my journal. There's a big WELCOME mat in the kitchen, and I find this endlessly hilarious. Throughout the next week and beyond I try to work out what happened, and rethink my entire philosophy on the nature of subjective experience. As the saying goes, one does not appreciate something until it is obliterated from him. Life has never been perceived quite the same since. I have this new sense of metaawareness. And the constant amusement of how I and everyone have not a clue what is. The persistent unanswerable "wtf?". Endless inspiration, it is. I subsequently seek to express this in all forms of creativity, from music to art to philosophy to lifestyle to internet comments. Happily ever after. The End. It's been a few years since something like that; I kind of want to do it again.

I am one of those rare

I am one of those rare people that salvia does not effect very strongly, I have tried working with it in so many diffeent ways over the years that I have really given up. The most I have ever really gotten from it is the feeling of being wrapped up in a warm leaf... which is nice and supportive and comforting... but that has always been the extent of it. We need more reports of people actually doing healing work with these medicines.  http://changaya.blogspot.com

flashing reality

I got to experiment with Salvia too but unfortunately the full extent of my experience was the world in front of me flashing and moving slowly (kind of like a strobe light). The girl in front of me was obviously having quite a different experience and I believe the reason my experience was so weak was because I only took a rather small hit. After that I have always been reluctant to spend any money on such a weak and short-lived experience. My last semester at school, however, I took a Drugs, Alcohol and Behavior Psychology class in which the instructor mentioned Salvia and it's use by Shamans, etc. Everyone, including myself, who dared share their experience to the rest of the class reported the same results. It got me thinking about the people who actually have strong experiences with Salvia, and how it is even considered a sacred plant by Shamans because of its properties. Maybe my rather narrow preconceived idea of its effects made for a weak trip. Maybe my lack of respect for the spirit of the plant did it. Who knows. But after reading this post I am willing to give Salvia another try.

you know one thing is that

you know one thing is that smoking it is not the traditional method... traditionally it was chewed and absorbed sublingualy. I think most people miss out on somthing if they dont try this at least once...

 

 http://changaya.blogspot.com

store-bought Salvia

What I smoked initially was Salvia that you can purchase at a smoke shop.  I don't remember in what form it came but if I remember correctly it resembled a marijuana bud.  Would I still be able to chew or absorb sublingualy in that form?

 

just thought I'd ask :) thanks for the suggestion by the way.

Nostalgia

I only entered the Salvia world once. As fate would have it the date was 9/11/01. I smoked it amid trees outside of Santa Fe with a friend acting as sitter. I was immediately propelled backwards in time into my childhood world of about four years old. I was surrounded by toys and stuffed animals and I could hear my kindergarten teacher talking. I was perceiving my environment through the consciousness of a four-year-old which is something we naturally lose touch with in becoming an adult, The whole event was charged with the most intense feelings of nostalgia.

Ska Maria Pastora

I have been an occasional user of Salvia for the last 4 years. I have used the quid method (leaf chewing) as well as smoking (usually 20x) extract.

The 2 experiences are quite different, smoking is a hard hit, fast acting, intense, sometimes frightening, often indescribable experience, peaking after about 1-2 mins, fading quickly after. Chewing the leaves in a rolled up "quid" is the traditionally favoured method of the Mazatecs. The leaves are foul tasting and bitter, and start to take effect after 15-20 minutes, with the whole experience lasting on average 1-2 hours.

Each time I have taken salvia has been different, each time has been worthwhile. The only advice I will give is that A SOBER 'SITTER' IS ESSENTIAL, as people under the influence of salvia may hurt themselves or others accidentally if they try to move during the experience. Don't all do it at the same time.

The gamut of experiences available is so varied, yet every time there is a familiar "Salvia-ness" which cannot be described. Those who know, know.I have been folded in half, travelled through time, presided over infinity, lived as a woodland creature, become myself as a child, fired energy beams from my fingers, laughed uncontrollably (many times), encountered benign spirits, and had experiences so far from "sanity" it would be foolish to attempt description.

Salvia is rightly a sacred plant, the knowledge she can bestow is unique, and not of this world, sometimes it is incredibly profound. The experience is not for everyone...I know a number of people who have tried it once and vowed never to return. If using salvia, be respectful, reverent and wise. Treat her as you would a living entity, because there is something magical there to behold. There is a wisdom of life, living secrets of reality, available to be accessed from ingesting this magical herb. Every experience provides new knowledge, make sure you're listening.

All users or potential users should read this sensible essential user's guide http://www.sagewisdom.org/usersguide.html

I don't have time to recount my experiences (goto erowid.org for that!) but one I had was very special, akin to the one @Inin-Soi describes above.

Danny Elfman's Black Beauty theme was playing on the stereo during the experience (smoking, 20x). After smoking, I lied flat on the floor, head on pillow, relax, prepped for an intense salvia ride. But no, what unfolds before me is a scene, extremely mundane, where I am stood with my back to a multi-storey car park in my hometown, looking towards the premises of a removals firm and all of their trucks, it's a balmy spring day, birds and insects and airborne seeds scattered throughout the air, all relatively peaceful, on the edge of the town centre.

However, the "me" in the scene is only approximately 5 years old (I was 32 at the time of the experience). Now, we can all remember being a kid, at least we think we can. But really, we can't, because we are now adults and have had a life in between, full of experiences and knowledge, all of which would taint any attempt to remember being young. The magic of this salvia trip, her true gift to me, was that in this experience I literally WAS myself as a 5 year old child, without any knowledge whatsoever of ever being any older... full innocence, an empty vessel, a sense of wonder and with so many questions about the world, a feeling of being small and dependant, gullible, trusting, pure, young. And for that, to really feel and live for a fleeting moment as an innocent child, I will be forever grateful to the green goddess.

As the escapade came to an end, the lucid scene gradually morphed (as weird as this sounds) into warm butter, and for that transition period as I returned from one world into the "real" world I, and the experience, became "some butter", before warmly, exquisitely and gently sparkling I return to the room, my hands trying to touch the experience as it twinkled and faded into the ether, with the gorgeous magical sounds of Danny Elfman still providing the soundtrack.

& before I go, here's a piece of music I've never finished written about salvia, or Ska Maria Pastora as the natives know her:

http://soundcloud.com/i_o/ska-maria-pastora

Peace & Love

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Splendor of the Real

I know of the fact very well intellectually, but I never cease to be amazed at the consistency of psychedelic experience among individuals! The only truly ego-shattering experience I have had, having partaken of many psychedelics, has been with salvia. Reading all these posts is like reliving that experience, along with a few other milder ones. "Frozen flesh made teeth" - I know exactly what you mean! Amazing. I believe, after a seven year hiatus, I am going to revisit these realms. I have harbored a knee-bending fear of salvia for quite some time, but all that seems to be gone. Hopefully she welcomes me back with open arms. Thanks Cosmos-nauts!

Interesting video experience captured

Alright so I don't know if anyone has come across these video's yet but I figure I would share them to understand the experience a little bit more. http://www.youtube.com/user/tvsuat This individual is the first I've known to be coherent during his salvia experience and is able to communicate with these being's after you break through the barrier into the salvia realm. They are an interesting watch, and like I said he is very coherent and seem's like he is pulling out some useful information that should be shared with the community. Now I havn't come to any conclusion's myself but from the sound's of every experience I have come across or discussed with other's the same theme is always discribed, they very in a sence of being able to explain exactly what is happening, but when it comes to breaking through and communicating with being's in this realm/dimension/ different time/ they all have the same setting. My experience's have been very welcoming but I refused to join them at the moment, them I don't know but are very familiar.. as reality over lapped itself like flipping quickly through the pages of a book I was pulled into another world. I don't remeber much of the communication I had with these enitites but I was unwilling to join what was happening within this place in time as I could see myself in three different location's at once the moment prior and the moment after.. and the present which was the experience of breaking through into a different place in time and viewing it as another entity without thought.. This is only a conclusion and feeling I have that dwelled on after the experience it is hard to recall. Anyway's please check out these video's as I said the most coherent conversation with these entite's to date.

Salvia Salvia Salvia

Great article. It is always good to find someone writing some actual good relevant information and not just the normal garbage. I tried salvia from www.freshsalvia.com, and OH MAN is all I can say.

The Salvia Experience

Thank you for writing this story. It was very compelling to read and you iterate the experience well, despite its innate difficulty to put it into words. I have smoked salvia dozens of times, and for a while I using it very regularly (4-5 times in a weeklong period, and many trips followed by immidiately smoking more and tripping again). At the end of this period, I stopped smoking the extract for a while because the "cacaphony" you described disappearing had done just that. It seemed the mysterious alure behind the drug had dulled. This is interesting because I have heard from many people that salvia is one of the only drugs in which your tolerance goes down as you smoke more often, ingest more, and have a larger number of lifetime uses. This has not been the case at all for me. The first trip I had on salvia was, in fact, the most intense, exciting, and complex. I had never tried a hallucinogenic substance before, so perhaps my brain just opened a kind of bottled up consciousness that had gained more intensity by being neglected. I found myself laughing hysterically and unable to speak, having forgotten how to use the muscles in my mouth correctly. Time seemed to be unattainably foreign to my understanding except the immediate moment I was in. The room became fuzzy, and very quickly I began to see vines growing up from below the floor all the way to the ceiling. The vines began to sprout their own entire plants which grew off the walls sideways and from the floor and ceiling. I felt myself sinking through the floor and everything I could perceive seeming to get further away, but at the same time becoming more and more vivid in detail. I realized there was a giant cage that was what had once been the walls of the room, and strange-looking reptillian creatures hanging down from the top of it. Then I felt the air all around me becoming more like a liquid, very much like water flowing swiftly around the obstruction of my body. I began to try and move my extremities but the liquid seemed to be flowing through me independent of my action against it. Then my room mates, who had not yet ingested the drug, began to play a song together on acoustic guitars, which seemed to send off a soundwave that conducted the rhythm and intensity of the air-liquid as if the river's flow was being pulled or manipulated by the music. I surrendered my body and let myself kind of float, staring up at the jungle and letting myself float in this river of peculiarity. I've had many intense trips like this, but none as intense as my first one. Could it be that the increase in normalcy is a result of just subjecting yourself to the experience ove and over again that results in feeling more comfortable and capable of predicting possible feelings or states of being?

Freaky Coincidence???

Having tried Salvia x 20 last year for the 1st time last year I've been interested in others experiences. You mentioned; "Within a few moments, the state focused somewhat, and I found myself in the presence of an older woman. She was of slight build and seemed to be either Haitian or perhaps East Indian. She was wearing a long skirt and headscarf and seemed to be performing an odd action with her hands, as if she were drawing something apart or perhaps kneading and pulling an imaginary doughlike substance -- it seemed reminiscent of playing the "cat's cradle" string game, only without the string. She had a bored demeanor and said, almost off handedly, "You're accepted". Now this is freaky, as soon as I entered the salvia realm this same older brown skinned woman was standing in the corner of my room also wearing headscarf and skirt. She stood there observing me as she made hand gestures perhaps ancient sign language. The walls began curling upon me like an ocean wave as there were a variety of humans and animals imbedded within the walls and the floor reaching out for me to help pull them out. I consider myself a rather experienced psychonaut, but this was way different than anything i've yet experienced this was a 5 dimensional reality and this 1st experience was eerie. I felt as if the walls would engulf me and I needed to get out of the room as quick as possible, I crawled out of the window into the garden outside and the ground below me illuminated into a neon red color with hundreds of souls trying to break free with their faces and hands pressed upwards. I stood outside observing the night sky calmed down a bit and then transported back to an earthly reality. This was an intense 1st experience...others since then has been rather interesting as well but I now know what to expect more or less. Thanks for sharing this...Namaste!

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Mara's Magic Show

I have not read Savia Divinorum, but I have read J.D. Arthur's book A Peopled Darkness, enjoyed it, and agree with it as well. I have probably used salvia as much as J.D. Arthur, and came to my own conclusions and questions, "Are the worlds salvia takes one to real? or are they illusions of mind?" and likewise... "Is the everyday world of life (not on salvia) real? or is everyday life an illusion of the mind?" The idea that the world we live in, (people, things, life) is not real may sound crazy to some, but I believe the world is an illusion actually, no more real than the worlds in salvia space! This IS salvia space, so to speak. The mind becomes entangled with this "illusion of world-existence" from incarnation to incarnation for eons, until it obtains the release into the eternal bliss of formlessness, true reality, a void not to be confused with nothingness, but a void wherein the intellect is fused with the pure seeing mind, The Seer, The All Good, for eternity. Liberation is then obtained and suffering has been extinguished. Salvia points the way. It lifts the curtain of everyday reality, and allows for a brief time only, the mind to see beyone this veil.