The Roswell Rock
Tristan Gulliford
The Roswell Daily Record reports that a strange rock recently discovered outside Roswell, New Mexico may be an alien artifact. The small brownish rock, measuring less than two inches across, was found in September 2004 by a local businessman named Robert Ridge who discovered it while deer hunting in Cedar Hill, 17 miles away from the spot where a UFO supposedly crash landed near Roswell over sixty years ago.
The rocks odd shape, intricate carvings, and strange magnetic properites has sparked interest in scientists, anthropologists, ufologists, and even the town mayor of Roswell. The design on the rock appears to have been made with no discernible marks of drilling or cutting, which has caused anthropologists to be perplexed as to its possible origins. The image looks similar to some designs found in crop circles, with interlocking shapes of sun and moon that some have speculated may be showing lunar cycles and some kind of eclipse or astrological event. Some ufologists have pointed out a similarity between the design and certain crop circles which appeared at Liddington Castle hill, England in 1996.
According to the Roswell Daily Record, one anthropologist compared the rock to a lodestone—special rocks which are believed by some to have special magical properties. Some Native American tribes have historically used lodestones to heal illnesses such as headaches and snakebites, and are thought to be special protection against snakes. While scientists and anthropologists are unsure of the terrestrial or extraterrestrial origins of this uniquely crafted and magnetized rock, many of them agree that they've “never seen anything like it”.
Tristan Gulliford is a writer, dreamer, and aspiring myth-keeper who makes electronic music under the name "Dreamcode". He is currently attending the University of Colorado at Boulder.
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roswell rock exact match to Aug. '96 crop circle
As reported on Earthfiles.com the rock inscription is exactly the same as a spectacular 120 feet long crop circle that appeared below the Liddington Castle hill fort in Chisledon, near Swindon, Oxfordshire, on August 2, 1996.
“The glyph itself was one of the best floor patterns I have had the pleasure to witness in many years, very fluid in its form, with counter rotational flows evident in many parts of the design.” - Stuart Dike, Cropcircleconnector.com.
There is also an interview included on site with Robert Ridge who found the rock in 2004 but was reluctant then to share his discovery.
Liddington Castle crop circle
Here is the crop circle image from Earthfiles. You're right, they are *exactly* the same design.
http://www.earthfiles.com/Images/news/U/UKChisledon082006SAlo.jpg
So do you guys think this
So do you guys think this is for real? Unless I read of a verified scientific analysis of the rock I am going to assume it was simply carved using some sort of lathe. Seems like a hoax to me.
"The lips of wisdom are closed, except to the ears of Understanding" -- The Kybalion.
if you read the article
Re: "if you read the article" by cj
To sleep, perchance to dream . . . that a more contradictory and perfunctory multiple-double entendre joke could be dreamed up in so few words . . . If I didn't have more self control, and had the intelligence to appreciate the humor, I might **** my pants laughing at this one! I will be very surprised if this isn't quoted someday by another Heinlein. What the ****?!?
God! I wish I had written that sentence! Maybe someday, I will. (A tribute to Whistler as an insult to Wilde.) No insult intended here, though. Genius. Pure genius.
It is a gnostic lesson in the golden ratio and harmonic damping
I measured the geometry of the rock in the picture and found that the circles are all related through the golden ratio in size, tangency or intersection. In the image below, a few of them are indicated with the red-green bars. The design appears to be a way of introducing the golden ratio that occurs naturally between the Vesica Piscis (largest circles in phase-quadrature) and a third ring balanced between them. The smaller circles are then sized at golden sections to balance between the three large circles, producing a perfectly balanced damping function between all of the rings. In short, the rock and crop circle both appear to be a lesson in the anti-harmonic principles enabling emergence of harmonics in a standing wave. To the Pythagoreans, this would have related to the Underworld of inner awareness or the "inmost chamber."
Very Interesting
Thanks for this compelling comment, Richard. Can you recommend any further reading on harmonic damping?
On harmonic damping
Perhaps the best explanation of damping is summarized from the 1930 papers by Lev Landau at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landau_damping
In this blurb, they speak of a region of stability in wave interference known as the "parameter area." This is where energy is shared between waves that intersect or nearly intersect. The special case involving harmonics occurs in a standing wave where all wave partials are whole number multiples. In this case, the center of the parameter area is a golden section of the overall Gaussian distribution of wave interference and the parameter area is defined by the Fibonacci series beginning at the proportion 13:8 and converging towards phi. From this point, Fibonacci proportions damp out or kill fractional or enharmonic wave partials as the ratios approach 1.618033(...), leaving only whole number harmonic ratios and their multiples taken from the range {1..12}.
Unfortunately, the only book I know that explains damping in this way is the one I am about to publish entitled "Interference - A Grand Scientific Musical Theory." I will be happy to send you a copy if you send your email address to me through the RS contact form.
It seems the separation of music and Pythagorean harmonic philosophy from natural science (due primarily to Galileo, but also Newton and Descartes) during the early Enlightenment has kept much of the early knowledge of how resonance and damping works fragmented into different fields. I have found no comprehensive theory that explains how organic nature emerges from this interplay, which is why I did the research myself and wrote this book. I was surprised to find how many things it explains (such as music perception) and also that this knowledge was once the "theory of everything," translated to the masses using mythological archetypes. This is only now being rediscovered in bits and pieces, though only at the front edge of quantum physics and genetics.
Golden Mean
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Allow me to sound completely ridiculous.
Is there any possible way that this could be some kind extraterrestrial blueprint? The directions for building something using the applied golden ratios?
This is a completely uninformed shot-in-the-dark idea.
Does anyone have the mind to see this thing in three discernible dimensions in which the outcome would be some kind of mechanism or machine?
Not Good Enough
Not good enough at all, actually.
My problem is that the material shown in the photo looks exactly like a resin casting, and any competent craftsperson could replicate those markings.
This one has hoax written all over it. I can hardly believe the play given to it here.
www.farrfeed.com
haha
i can't believe people don't read the article, but moving right along, imagine those pesky aliens making something that has magnetic force in it, actually looking like some silly humans could even have made something that, with "innermost chamber" ratio and all that kinda pyramid building stuff.Maybe that is why it seemed "pulled" from the rock.
"the artifacts image seems to be literally "pulled" from the surface of the red iron ore rock"
hmm, what an odd thing to say, i wonder how they got that impression...odd indeed.
Probably not a resin cast
Actually John, according to the information I've read, and an interview on Earthfiles.com with Robert Ridge who found the rock, he says that he has shown it to competent craftspeople and they have said they would have no way of physically reproducing the rock, with a cast or otherwise. The rock is also magnetized in an odd way, something that I imagine would be difficult for a craftsperson to replicate.
Crafts-people's challenge
Well, I don't know about that. While is impressive that in Howell's interview with James Constantopoulos, Ph.D, the artifact could 'pass muster' or appear to be a genuine rock.
He is a relevant expert in genuine rocks and crystals, but not necessarily a master of the arts of fakery.
In terms of the genuine article, or genuinely native stone, there are perhaps methods of taking such stone and intermixing them with various forms of the plastic arts or molded bodies. With a proper understanding of chemistry and vulconology, it isn't beyond the possibility of producing a "stone" that is no stone at all, but a product of plastic-art or artificiality.
It would not be necessary to melt quartz to produce such a "stone". The presence of crystalized quartz evidences this. A "fake" sandstone is not beyond methods currently extant by "earthlings".
Here is some relevant information: from:http://www.rocksandminerals.com/finder/H3.HTM
"Sandstone Sandstones are beds of sand that have been consolidated into rock masses. The grains are usually rounded and waterworn but may be more or less angular. The primary mineral of sandstones is quartz. If it contains significant amounts of feldspar, it is termed arkose. The grains are often bound together by silica, a carbonate (usually calcite), and iron oxide ( hematite or goethite), or fine-grained argillaceous material. The color depends largely on the cementing material. Those that contain iron oxide are red to reddish brown. Those containing silica or calcite as the binding material will be light in color, usually a pale yellow, buff or white to gray."
Here is a link that is relevant, too, because it pertains to the use of hydrofluoric acid, an "etchant" that can dissolve glass and quartz, and enable the expert artizan who might want to fake something, creat a composition that comports with the "stone" at hand:
Sandstone "dissolver": http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2006/0054325.html
At this point, I'm not so much interested in the "alienness" of this artifact, as the creation of it, and why the particular conformation of it is different from that of the crop circle noted by Howe and others.
All other sub-discussions aside, I think the math and physics that Merrick discusses much more interesting than whether or not this is a "sign" from outer-space people. We can know this: it is an artificial thing. No manner of manipulation of random chance will result in such a thing. It was made by someone with an awareness of both craft and mathematics or geometry. It is "man(kind) made.
Try and find old issues of "The Minerologist", and in its volumes, you will read of many of the arts and scientific knowledge that could easily have resulted in production of such a thing by us stupid earthlings. Some stuff in there that isn't even broadly known today by "experts". Easily passed over, because it was a journal of amateurs and hobbyists.
but of course
Doesn't matter where it came from
The knowledge represented by this geometry is certainly not a hoax, no matter who made it. It indicates that someone is trying to explain basic principles of nature to a world whose science avoids this information. We don't need an alien origin to the rock or crop circle to appreciate the intrinsic meaning of the pattern and embrace it as part of a larger natural philosophy.
As for it being a blueprint for a machine - it certainly is. But not some alien stargate or anti-gravity device. It is the machine inside nature that holds atoms together. It is a geometrical representation of the damping proportions present in any standing wave (such as a musical tone, laser light or a given electron). If you roll these rings out along a horizontal line you will find they form waves that intersect and overlap one another at special dead points in the space between harmonics. These dead points are the proportions which keep fractional waves from forming and allow whole number harmonics to form. All material structure (including life) resonates from coinciding combinations of harmonic waves while the anti-harmonic proportions suggested by the above geometry suppress and even contains this resonance. Without a containing force, standing waves would not form and everything would simply fall apart.
It is this interplay between resonance and damping that shapes life, creating flexible muscle and tissue where the harmonic proportions combine and bone, crevices (and yes holes) where the harmonic proportions are damped down. You'd think this would be pretty important information to share at school, but you won't find it there.
Many different areas of science support this explanation, including Landau-Zener theory, the QCD Lattice and holonomic theory. In fact, the infinite golden ratio is the perfect damping function used in acoustical design because waves cannot reflect or fold back upon themselves in this proportion. Similarly, it is the ratio giving rise to coherence of all kinds in quantum mechanics, such as Bose-Einstein condensate.
However, because of the compartmentalization of science and its complicity with western religion, the use of pagan ideas like harmonic resonance and damping to explain nature remains virtually unknown to this day. Waking up to how nature really works is the unavoidable lesson of all such Gnostic geometries regardless of who made them.
Robert, Robert, Robert.
Two things.
First, thank you so very much for introducing me to these concepts and providing some topical points from which to learn more. This is probably the most balanced and informative comment I've read on rs.com in a long time. Thanks again.
Second, Damnit Robert; I have enough to learn about already. You are a cruel taskmaster, sir, a cruel one indeed. This is going to keep me busy for a while. :P
-Furi
It seems you have managed
It seems you have managed to translate Drew Hempel's work into English, and for that I applaud you. I'd love to see your book too.
www.martialdevelopment.com
how will we use this information?
All material structure (including life) resonates from coinciding combinations of harmonic waves while the anti-harmonic proportions suggested by the above geometry suppress and even contains this resonance. Without a containing force, standing waves would not form and everything would simply fall apart.
Richard,
This is a beautiful description that reflects what I understand about the Kabbalistic idea of genesis and the Adam Kadmon. I can only wonder how this geometry will inform evolved human technology?
Thanks for your input here.
John
Harmonic principles as a guiding philosophy
Your point about similarities with the Kabbalah are correct. The Kabbalah is based on the harmonic science of numbers descended from Hebrew Gnosticism which itself came from Pythagoreanism that combined the Egyptian, Babylonian Chaldean and Indian Brahman mystery schools. Those people felt it was very useful to understand nature and how we are a part of it through geometry and numbers.
For instance, they would have found it both meaningful and useful to know that the Moon and Earth originated from a universal system of balance like that on the Roswell rock.
Perhaps a modern astrophysicist would find it useful to know the Earth and Moon share proportions with such things as the Vesica Piscis, a hen's egg, the Great Pyramid and a musical perfect fourth. Why? Because it can lead a scientist to dig deeper into plasma cosmology and discover how plasma whirlpools resonated just like a musical string into galaxies, solar systems and planetary systems. It could even lead to an understanding of how our sun might be electrically powered by the galaxy rather than internal fusion or how gravity might actually be the effect of atomic expansion rather than an imaginary graviton particle. It could be very useful in guiding research away from incorrect scientific models that make no sense and do not explain things at the most fundamental level.
It might lead science to explain why crystals brought back from the moon were recently found to contain water. Understanding the Earth-Moon system as once being a spiraling glob of colliding plasma waves which condensed into a shared egg-like pool of hydrogen, oxygen and other Earthly elements would explain this. Currently, the astrophysicists studying this think a huge meteor hit the Earth and splashed water on the Moon. No joke.
There are countless applications of this natural philosophy, but science has to be reinvented for any of this to be accepted, funded and ultimately applied to solve the serious problems confronting us.
Back to Aether
Some of your observations are highly intriguing in reference to alternative models of planet evolution that evidently today are fully in the periphery of consideration.
It sounds a little like you are more of the Alfven school of cosmology than the big-bangists.
This makes sense to me, too, if so. How does that statement go? ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny.
Ontogeny (embryonic development) and phylogeny (biological evolution) are said to be in "resonance".
It seems possible to also speculate that ontogeny recapitulates cosmogeny or differentiation and development of the galaxies, stars and planets.
A principle that can be, perhaps, carried too far, but also perhaps possessing probity by predictive accuracy or reflecting reality more closely than current popular models (the one or two given space in journals).
It seems possible to see in the distances of the planets and the idea of sound-waves or any form of waves originating from the sun and the calculated of the different stars from the galactic center a means for developing some ideas about space and the "ultimate" or "penultimate" medium(s) from which and through which stars are born and move.
The idea that the sun's energy values and varying temperatures are fully accounted for on purely intrinsic atomic activities doesn't seem to follow. At least, I don't understand the currently held conclusions. It does seem possible that the sun is transducing energy from outside sources.
The above concept of recapitulation also suggests a variant of the idea of the nebular hypothesis, in which a globular plasma can give birth to other orbs rather than from some putative concretion from a "disk". We can see from our neighbor Saturn, that such concretion doesn't seem to be taking place, and I can find no evidence from any model as to why a thin disk should at any time become discretized into orbs or planets or planetoids. We do see separations in axial form or differentiation of rings, but no tendancy to discrete orbular bodies. Thank you for some very interesting observations.
wombs within wombs
what you say, Rogerscott, makes a lot of sense as a fract[ic]al matter, too.
Exciting!
- Hearts & The Golden Ratio -
I recently learned from a lecture by the genius inventor Dr. Patrick Flanagan that the Golden Ratio has been empirically demonstrated as the harmonic structure of a loving heart's electromagnetic signature. For the same reasons that this phi ratio prevents any kind of harmonic cluttering, it also seems to support the healthiest amount of "noise" or "randomness" in heartbeat intervals (when the heart begins to beat too evenly, it trips over itself, basically a short-circuit or seizure, called fibrillation).
What MORE, this EM signature will ENTRAIN other hearts into the same pattern. Flanagan did this in the lab - he thought lovingly of his wife, and she (attached to identical equipment, but hundreds of miles away!) began to evince the same phi pattern in her heartbeat. Whatever is going on here, it's two things:
1) Generative of the precise balance between order and chaos necessary to support life and health;
2) Operative via some nonlocal quantum mechanism that allows it work irrespective of distance.
The real kicker for me was when Dr. Flanagan pointed out that since, if your heartbeat is in this healthy mode, it cascades into all kinds of other health benefits in the body - and the body and mind are connected, so the healthier your heart the better your mood.
He was proposing to have collected empirical support for Jesus Christ's "love thy enemy" tenet, because if you love your enemies their hearts, and if you entrain their hearts they feel good (and on a more or less conscious level may even recognize the feeling as associated with you), and if they feel good, they're less likely to harbor animosity. (How hard is it to hate someone when you are feeling great?)
Of course, the reverse, "black magic" side of this is also true: You can apparently entrain someone else's heart with deleterious frequency patterns - but of course only by entering them yourself. So in order to destroy your enemy, you too must be destroyed.
The Visionary Music of Michael Garfield
Golden ratio in the cardiac cycle
This may be a tad off topic, but thought you'd be interested in seeing how a heartbeat aligns in time with a recursive golden ratio series and how that exists in the Mandelbrot set. A heartbeat really is the boundary between order and chaos.
Crop circles are fascinating, but this....
So, I'm fascinated by crop circles and all the cool fractal designs, but this is a bit suspicious.
Call me a skeptic, but here's some rhetorical questions: why would aliens make something from rock, bury or hide it in the middle of the woods, and "encrypt" the message?
If they had something to say, why don't they dumb it down for us humans, and provide a color-coded, large-lettered pictogram-type user's manual, or at least something obvious that even a primitive species like us could understand. Remember Carl Sagan's plaque that went out into the yonder on the Voyager (and Pioneers, now that I checked)? We did better than this rock, that's for sure.
a belated response
to your question, Call me a skeptic, but here's some rhetorical questions: why would aliens make something from rock, bury or hide it in the middle of the woods, and "encrypt" the message?
my first gut reaction to the rock was that it was lost by the aliens or thrown from crashed craft in 1947. It could be a switch device that reacts with magnetic forces in the earth. Just because it was found by a human doesn't necessarily follow that it was meant as some kind of sign or encrypted message for us. This could just be a futuristic artifact whose purpose we don't yet know.
"We did better then this rock"
ah cj I'm so there, and
"Robert Ridge who found the
"Robert Ridge who found the rock, he says that he has shown it to competent craftspeople and they have said they would have no way of physically reproducing the rock, with a cast or otherwise."
Exactly my point, it's not verifiable. If I had created this rock I would also claim that I'd shown it to some experts who were "baffled".
"The lips of wisdom are closed, except to the ears of Understanding" -- The Kybalion.
Richard Merrick
Thanks for your very interesting and insightful comments Richard. As you say the 'rock' may be fake but the math is not. When can we expect your work on harmonics to be available? As a lifetime fan of The Great Pyramid I knew of the relationship between the Earth/Moon and the Great Pyramid. I never knew there was a Pythagorean triangle in there as well. Nice graphics by the way.
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Arthur C Clarke
Thanks for your kind comments
The proportions exhibited by the Great Pyramid is every bit as important as the Egyptians made it out to be. It can be found in everything, including in our physiology. I'm convinced this was what the Vitruvian Man was all about. There was probably much more on this in Da Vinci's notebook, but it went missing with the remaining one-third of his writings. Anyone want to bet we wouldn't find it hidden away in the Vatican library.
Anyway, my book should be published by September. I'll update my profile to mention when it's available and you can contact me about it through the RS contact form. For that matter, I'm happy to discuss any of this individually as time permits. Thanks again for your comments!
Interesting discussion
I agree - could be pure catharsis for someone
Perhaps both the rock and crop circle were personal (and independent) artistic expressions with no intent on communicating anything to anyone. There is certainly plenty of art and music that falls into that category.
The Labyrinth
Hi Richard,
Really appreciated your research.
I think it contains much needed information our culture would do well to incorporate.
Have you done any on The Labyrinth in Egypt mentioned in Herodotus's 'Histories'?
Labyrinth as the serpent underworld
Had not looked closely into that - thanks for suggesting it.
I noticed that it was where the crocodile musuh (or messiah) led by the god Sebek was worshipped. My guess is the labyrinth was a way to represent the slithering movement of a serpent, of which the croc was a more developed version. Serpent worship was very prevalent in tribal worship around the world from the "nagas" in India to the Naga Maya in South America (including Quetzalcoatal). The fact they share the same ancient name should be a clue. In fact, these serpent religions came together in the Pythagorean school, which translates from "Python agoras" in Greek to "Serpent meeting" in English.
Personally, I think the serpent was a symbol used in pagan spiritual ceremonies to represent the spiraling Fibonacci series which performs the function in nature of supporting formation of periodic harmonic structure. I just don't know how to prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt.
when doing the Rites
The Labyrinth
I have read Herodotus's Histories twice and am embarrassed to admit his description of the Labyrinth passed me by....I always was more interested in his stories of the Spartans.
The Labyrinth was brought to my attention only two days ago when I found a book by Patrick Geryl.I do not know of his standing in the community but he is certainly passionate about the need for the Labyrinth to be studied.
Herodotus visited this building himself and the descriptions of it are intriguing with its two floors,(one above ground,one under)of 3000 rooms.He was not allowed into the underground chambers by the Egyptians.
He writes 'You would not believe they were made by human hands.The passages connecting the chambers and the winding paths were breathtaking in their colorful variety.'
Apparently,amongst other wonders,it contains 'the circle of gold',a legendary room to which the Book of the Dead refers.It is made of granite and gold and contains the astronomical knowledge of their civilization.
In 1843 an archaeologist Richard Lepsuis,had dug for the labyrinth at Hawara.He only did a few digs and said it had collapsed.
Does it matter if it's alien?
"OK, here's the deal. There's science (boo! boo!), which has nothing really valuable to say about humanity (Yeah! Tell 'em!).
"And then there's me. <wild applause!> I'm going to lie to you, and I'm going to sing sweet songs to you, that'll make your heart melt, and show you new worlds. But it's all going to be all lies, a cover over the depravity of the world as it is, which we dare not look at.
"So pretend like you really really believe, believe really really hard, and find lots of arguments and reasons to believe, or at least find the reason why it doesn't really matter anyways, and the whole experience will be much more enjoyable."
This is the message that comes clear to me.
And it seems to me that -- by denying the importance of the question "What is real?", we are creating an intrinsic message, "The real is depraved, mundane, unfeeling, insensitive," and so on.
The question I care about is: "How do we find a state of consciousness, that is uplifting, creative, imaginative, inspiring, truthful, virtuous, and realistic, that is in complete accord with naturalistic commitments? (No quantum outs taken.)"
If we're not finding an answer to that question, or a question like it, then we are-- we are advancing the notion that reality is bad or undesirable; We're pulling on both sides of the chinese finger-trap.
So I advance a quest for mystical realism.
i wonder
Timely
I think you're right CJ that there are additional lessons to be learned in this pattern and that it is very timely that this particular pattern has reappeared, regardless of its origin. It makes me realize that someone(s) know its importance - enough to take the effort to create a crop circle a few years back and now a rock.
i realize that the rock had been held for awhile
Identical to 1996 crop circle
The Power of Limits
...here's an excellent book with beautfully illustrated examples of the phi ratios presence in organic morphology...check it out, if you haven't already, Richard.
http://www.amazon.com/Power-Limits-Gyorgy-Doczi/dp/0877731934
Thank You
Thank you so much for you insightful perspective Richard. I look forwrd to reading your book.
Anyhoo... i was just wondering if there were more of the 'rocks' OR maybe there are 'rocks' out there that maybe have markings and such similar to other outcroppings.
This is very intresting indeed. ALSO If it did come from perhaps another planet...are the moon(s) supposed to be like theirs or ours??? Is earth being stocked??? haha...jk... sorry about that just thought I should should add a little bit of humor in this discussion, not that it needs it. :]-live♥love♥learn♥laugh
latest formations
its a lucky fishing weight...
Most rocks
First: the crop circle spoken of can be found for free at:
http://www.noufors.com/images/cc022.jpg
The references to Linda M. Howe's site are for 'subscribers', and will give 'access denied' to everyone else.
I have an open mind, but tend to see this as suspiscious. Not the least problem being it was found by a "business man" and promoted by a mayor of a town whose primary business is tourism revolving around a myth of "ufos" and "aliens".
I speculate: take a rock. Add some wax-image on top. Extend cracks in rock into added image. Make a cast of the 'rock-with-image'. Take some adobe, mix with iron, slurry it, pour into mold. Lightly bake, allow to dry. Extract. Bake at high temperature. Take 'brick', polish, age. Present as "rock". Why is the image finely finished, but sub-layer pitted and 'old looking'? Also: take any old rock, and take a strong mini-magnet, and nine times out of ten, the magnet will 'stick' to it.
Iron is common in almost any rock. Alternatively, one can take any appropriately shaped rock, and impose on it an image, leaving the other parts there in 'natural' character.
Sorry. This 'rock' doesn't cut mustard in many ways.
many ways
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