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Lessons for an Entity Incarnating as a Mammal

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The following first appeared on Zap Oracle.

 

Recently I was able to recall a Socratic teaching dialogue I had with a spirit guide while I was between incarnations. My questions -- which have the embarrassing naiveté so typical of the disincarnate -- are italicized.

Spirit gide: Another mammal is not an organ of your body.  Your body has all its own parts. Another mammal is not you, or another side of you. Your psyche has all its own parts.

Sounds pretty obvious, how could I get that mixed up?

By choosing to incarnate as a mammal, you are choosing to allow many veils to obscure your awareness. Being in a specific mammal body creates many of these veils.  This body will act as a filter or lens through which you will receive most of the perceptions of your incarnation.  The lens will magnify and distort some aspects, and many other aspects will be outside its field of view. This is why we have a saying that to incarnate as a mammal is to, "Look through a glass darkly."

So my vision won't be perfect, but how could that make me confused that I am another person?

A dark glass is partly transparent and partly reflective, and it is often very hard to know whether you are looking through the dark glass at something outside of you, or if you are actually looking at a highly distorted reflection of yourself that you only think is outside.  Since another person will have the same vague outline that you will, they are the easiest cases to confuse inside and outside.  Even more confusing is that quite often, perhaps most of the time, what you see through the dark glass is some of both; it is partly another person and partly a reflection of you, and neither is seen clearly.

I still don't get it. If I'm looking at another person through the dark glass, won't I be able to tell they are another person by their independent movements?

Not necessarily.  For one thing, when you are in a mammal body, you may actually want to be confused, you may have an overwhelming desire for another person to be part of you, and may not wish to acknowledge that this is another person, even when you notice independent movement.  The distortion of wanting onto what is seen through the dark glass is so powerful that some mammals will fly into a rage if they notice the other person making too much independent, unpredictable movement, and they may lash out at them or even kill them.

But that's horrible!  How could someone be so deluded?

When you choose to incarnate as a mammal, you also choose to be in a particular body.  Almost all of these bodies are what we call "gendered." Some bodies are male, and have one type of genitalia; other bodies are female, and have another type of genitalia.  These bodies will all be imperfect, they will all age fairly rapidly, and at certain phases will be filled with intoxicating hormones that cause intense cravings for contact with other bodies.  Most mammals will experience their bodies as incomplete, and especially under the influence of these powerful hormones, will believe that they need one or more other bodies to be whole.  Most often they will have wild, often uncontrollable desires for someone who has the other kind of genitals, while a significant, but smaller group will crave those with the same kind of genitals, and others may crave both types.

But if you crave something outside you, doesn't that force you to be aware that it is outside and apart from you?

Not necessarily.  Remember that most mammals are what we call "social mammals," which means that they are encoded to incarnate within a network of other mammals known as "the social matrix."  If you choose a mammalian incarnation, you will enter the incarnation through another mammal's body, and the first nine months or so of incarnation will be spent actually inside the body of another mammal.  When you exit this body, what is called "birth," you will be in a helpless, dependent state called "infancy," and the mammal whose body you incarnated in will, in most cases, be your food source for a substantial period of time.  Since you came from inside this mammal's body (always a female mammal called a "mother"),  and since you are unformed and dependent, you will believe that the mother is a part of your body, a part of you.  So your very first experience of the mammalian network or social matrix will be a maximal case of confusion between where you leave off and where another mammal begins.  This confusion is essential to the formation of a mammalian network, and to be a socialized member of the network, to merge with the social matrix, you must not be too distinctly aware of yourself as separate from it.  If a mammal does not have this merging instinct to the expected degree, they will be viewed as defective by the network, and labeled "autistic."

But once I am no longer in the body of the mother, and no longer in infancy, and know that the mother is not me, wouldn't I outgrow the confusion of thinking another mammal is part of me?

Not necessarily. The confusion will continue in many cases.  For example, when your body starts to produce more of the intoxicating hormones, you will feel an intense desire to get physical nourishment again from other mammals.  The types of mammals you crave for nourishment are sometimes called "Hotties." The Hotties will light up in your perception as all-attractive and all-desirable.

Why are they called "Hotties?"

When you perceive a Hottie, so much of your energy will pour out of you toward the Hottie that you will feel a heating sensation, but because of the confusion of inner and outer, you will tend to think that this internal heating is caused by the Hottie. This creates the illusion that the particular person-or object-is the source of the heat, rather than your own internal, physiological heating.

So what do mammals want to do when they perceive a Hottie?

They will want to merge with them, to intentionally confuse and penetrate the boundary between them, and in so doing obtain physical nourishment from the Hottie. For example, they may seek to engage the Hottie with the same sort of sucking behaviors that gave them nourishment as an infant. They may also want to be partly inside the body of the Hottie, as they were once inside the mother, and may even attempt to insert parts of their bodies into the very same kind of organ they were born out of.  They may want to feel enclosed and protected by the Hottie, as they were by their mother. In other cases, they may want to fully control the Hottie, and will want the Hottie to be their exclusive source of nourishment. They may even fight or kill other mammals who may want the same Hottie.

In general, the cravings for the Hottie may be so strong that mammals will feel a return of some of the same feelings of helplessness and dependence they had as an infant.  This can cause them to blur the perception of separateness with the Hottie, and they may falsely believe that what they want is what the Hottie wants, and they may also become as helpless and dependent on the Hottie as they once were with their mother, or they may overcompensate for the helpless, dependent feelings and seek to dominate the Hottie.  They may want the Hottie to be a part of their body, or for their body to be a part of the Hottie, or they may even seek to deposit fluids from their body into the body of the Hottie, or to draw fluids from the body of the Hottie by sucking behaviors and so forth.

So all this confusion about being another person has to do with hormones and with the Hottie?

Not entirely. The Hottie situation is only the most classic example, but there are many others.  For example, the mother, who once had this other mammal living inside of her for nine months, may continue to believe that the new mammal is part of her even after the new mammal has exited her body and grown up to full size.  This is only one of many, many possible cases.  When you choose to incarnate in a mammal body, you are also going to experience the incompleteness of that mammalian body, both psychologically and physically.  You will seek to become whole by merging with other mammals, and they will not always be Hotties, but they may be mammals who possess other attributes, or whom you think possess attributes, that you feel are lacking in yourself. This can result in the same kind of blurred boundaries and the same kind of tendencies toward helpless dependence and domination as are so typical of Hottie relations.

But this sounds so gross and disempowering.  Why would I, or anyone, choose a mammalian incarnation and all these deluded dependencies?

There may be many reasons.  Some entities enjoy the intensity of these dependency dramas.  Remember how you came to be an entity in the first place. Once you, and all of us, were part of the Oneness.  We were all undifferentiated parts of this Oneness, and there was no separation. But after a while, this got boring. There were no subjects or objects, and with no separation there were no dramas, no cycles of incarnation, no one outside the Oneness to do anything with or be done unto by, and this got really, really boring.  Eventually, we got so frustrated and bored by being the Oneness that we exploded, what the mammals call in their primitive style, the "Big Bang." After the Big Bang, there were subjects and objects, and besides Oneness there was now also Eachness and individuality, and that's how you came to be your own entity.  Being an entity is all about the interplay between Oneness and Eachness.

Sometimes it is interesting to descend all the way into Eachness, even to the extent of incarnating into a single, imperfect, mortal mammalian body, and entirely forgetting that you were, and are, an entity.  After birth and separation from the mother, the descent into Eachness becomes ever more intense, and you start to become more complex, more differentiated and individuated.  This can be so interesting and dramatic compared to the endless boredom of Oneness.  But this path of extreme Eachness includes the intense vulnerability and incompleteness of being in a rapidly aging mammal body, and this can be painful and exhausting, so inevitably you will tend to crave Oneness again.

Most entities are sensible enough not to want to go back to the other extreme, the endless boredom of Oneness, but some do; they are sick and tired of Eachness, and want to go back to Oneness forever.  Mammals call such an anti-Eachness mammal a "Buddhist."  A Buddhist actually prefers, or thinks they prefer, the boredom of Oneness. They feel it was a mistake, or some sort of self-imposed hardship, to incarnate.  Rather than engage in the dramas of Eachness, they seek Oneness, and will actually sit still for long periods of time, sometimes saying a certain word, what they call a "mantra," over and over and over again.

Just sitting and saying one word over and over again?  But that sounds so boring.

Exactly. But it is supposed to be boring, remember that a Buddhist mammal is mad at Eachness and incarnation, and actually wants to return to the boredom of Oneness for all eternity.

I don't get it. If that's what they want, then why would they choose to incarnate as mammals, which is a path that has so much eachness to it?

They have a few explanations for that.  One is that they think they are flawed and prone to huge mistakes.  They call such mistakes "Karma," and they believe these mistakes bind them into endless incarnations.  By sitting and going really deeply into the boredom of Oneness, they hope to wake up from their mistakes and become what they call "enlightened."  According to Buddhist mammals, an enlightened entity is one that believes that the endless boredom of Oneness is better than Eachness, and such an entity seeks to return to the Oneness, and be done with Eachness forever.  In some cases, they believe that an enlightened entity may feel sorry for other entities who have chosen the path of Eachness and mammalian incarnation, which they think is a big mistake, and such an entity will choose to incarnate as a mammal again, even though they don't really want to.  They believe that they choose the Eachness they don't want so as to help other mammals become enlightened with their program of anti-Eachness. Such mammals are called "Bodhisattva," and are thought to be unsatisfied until all entities have joined them into the boredom of Oneness.

Buddhists call the whole realm of Eachness "Maya," and they consider it to be an entrapping realm of illusion.  An interesting fact is that the original Buddhist, who is now known simply as "the Buddha," had a mother who died when he exited her body, and her name was "Maya." This may be an example of how the circumstances of a mammalian incarnation can change your view of yourself as an entity, and where you stand with Eachness and Oneness.

So an entity that chooses mammalian incarnation and Eachness, but doesn't want it, is called a Buddhist. But are there entities on the other extreme, those who want only Eachness, and never want to go back to the boredom of Oneness?

Yes there are. There are many more of them than Buddhists, and unlike the Buddhists, who are usually very peaceful, they can be quite violent and dangerous in all sorts of ways.  These mammals are called the "egoists," and what they believe in is called "fundamentalist materialism."  They believe that Eachness and mortal mammalian incarnation is all there is to existence, and have gone to such an extreme with Eachness that they engage in a war of conquest with all other entities and all the other individualized parts of the original Oneness.  They don't see a world of Oneness at all, but only a world of separated objects.  They will refer to marked-off parts of the planet everyone incarnated on as "real estate," and will refer to other types of mammals as "livestock."  In their own words they are, "Out for number one."  They believe that they came out of a mother not to experience any form of dependence or interdependence, but to fight a battle of conquest with everything in the phenomenal world. These entities are very upset when their mortal mammalian body is endangered, when it ages, and especially when it dies.  They fear the merging with Oneness aspects of death, and may actually cling to the mortal realm even when their mammal body is gone, still trying to fulfill their insatiable desire to conquer a world of objects.  The Buddhists call such clinging entities "pretas" or "hungry ghosts."

So every entity chooses where they stand in terms of Eachness and Oneness, but how does this affect their view of the Hottie and the issue of blurred boundaries?

Indeed, the stance on Eachness and Oneness affects the view of the Hottie in all sorts of ways.  Looking at the extremes, the Buddhists view Hotties with great wariness; they see them as personifications of Maya, as tempters, and temptresses, who would lure you with the appeal of merging with Oneness, while actually binding you deeper into Eachness.  The egoists view the Hotties as objects to be conquered. Rather than merging with the Hottie, they want to own and control and dispose of Hotties at will.

Other entities undergoing mammalian incarnation are not at the extremes, but rather at various places on the spectrum of Eachness and Oneness, and their view of the Hottie will reflect these positions.  They will tend to want to merge psychologically, as well as physically, with the Hottie, and want merging with the Hottie to be their paramount experience of Oneness and relief from the painful separations of Eachness.  The whole process of trying to fulfill that can be torturous at times, ecstatic at others, and all the interesting variations are one of the main attractions of mammalian incarnation.  Many entities revel in the momentary explosions of Eachness into Oneness, which are called "orgasms." Orgasms are like mini reversals of the Big Bang; they are like little bangs where Eachness explodes into Oneness for a moment. Some may find a healthy balance between Eachness and Oneness through the process, while very often Eachness and Oneness get entangled and confused, and the desire to experience Oneness through a Hottie causes blindness to the Eachness of the Hottie.

Another interesting variation is that a physical Hottie is not necessary for experiencing orgasms.  Through a process called "auto-eroticism" or "masturbation," a mammal may stimulate itself while reaching into the Oneness to create the eachness of a Hottie of their own creation.  They generate Eachness out of Oneness, and use it to create an orgasm, a mini explosion of Eachness into Oneness.  Properly understood, this practice can reveal the illusions of Eachness and Oneness that obscure contact with Hotties and the understanding of oneself as an entity, as the interplay of Eachness and Oneness.

If I incarnate as a mammal and remember this lesson, wouldn't I avoid the entanglement and confusion of blurred boundaries, and find a healthy balance between Eachness and Oneness?

Not necessarily. The likelihood is that you will still experience entanglement and confusion.  Since we are both conversing outside of linear time, you know that you will remember this lesson, and that one day you will even write it out word for word to share with the mammalian network through the ingenious network of thinking machines called the "World Wide Web" which will be built in the middle of your incarnation.  For you who remember the lesson, and for other mammals who may read it, there will still be confusion and entanglement.  The intensity of cravings for the Hottie, and all the distortions of the dark glass of mammalian perception are still going to generate blurred boundaries and confusions of Eachness and Oneness.  The lesson is there to help, but you may still need to engage the scenarios of mammalian incarnation and learn from many different confusing dramas. If you choose to incarnate as a mammal, The Hottie, and many other blurred boundary situations you will encounter, will provide you with many difficult lessons about your life as an entity and your relationship to Eachness and Oneness.

 

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Comments

Raja do you have your own

Raja do you have your own words or do you just cite the works of others in an authoritarian way? Its okay I do that too... I'm just wondering if you can generate your own thoughts or just refer to others who have done that?

I agree I am satisfied with

I agree I am satisfied with my foregone conclusions.

 

Beware psychic entanglement with cephalopods

Yes because I am your dejected self reflection I am actually out for aggrandizement of my self so that I can claim much praise and ackolades. Like yourself I am a bottom feeding social climber who cares only for profit and noteriety by people, and in this way my worth as a human being is known to me. Otherwise I would have no value, I would just be, free from prying eyes and pointing fingers of the ignorant here to measure and number the walls and corners of the tombs they have erected. Thats where you live, I must live there as well right? Really what Im looking for, like you, is someone to say your the best at being the greatest! And wow everyone cheers and applauses, and in the back is a small man, he waits and observes, his contempt and resentful jealousy swells, he can no longer remember why he is so obsessed, he only knows that someone else isn't 'better' than him, he is the best at being best. Anyone who 'knows' something he doesn't is in fact a charlatan and a liar, a distorted and deranged person who feeds on the belief of the confused and ignorant. Empty vessels searching in vain for themselves in all the wrong ways, and when they realize thats as far as they can go, they will turn to anger and hatred for their self empowerment. The cowards shout the loudest and with spiteful accusations. <p>

 Truely you have discovered my heinous nature and *gasp! everyone will know of my decietful treachery! How I have profited from my lies and manipulation! Observe all I have gained *gestures to ashvault. <p>

A small man of medium stature here to reduce others to your limitations so you can quell your anxieties and fears about your own failings to cultivate yourself, Instead of developing yourself, you choose to tear others down to your failed level. You settled in some low place and figured if you bolster your ego enough it might compensate for everything you wont ever know. Your interference has gone on long enough. The question is my friend do you believe in magic? If you answer no one to many times and persist drudging the deep waters looking for something you might just find it... <p>

 I show you my back, and like a coward you jump at it, like an overstimulated adolescent monkey. In your self assured near-panic and child like excitement you fail to realize we had switched positions in a breathe. The harder you swim, the thicker the water got; The further you analyze the more confused you become. The illusory image of Pride and arrogance, I painted the canvas on a whim, psychic defense against persecution by those who think they know. Knock down a straw man, but the owl murders the crows. Confusion is all you will find, persist in this and I can only speculate what things might come your way. Everyday normal guy.<p>

I turn my back.

Sorry Fat Kid, wont be holding your hand anytime soon

You interfered enough with my shit what with your spycraft and subterfuge, creeping voyeur http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8aRmMPelw8 Youtube heros, Fall to your ass champion. porra iniciante. <p>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-CXwgifA4U Joseph Goebels and Dr. Mengele go for a ride... <p>

porra iniciante.

Inside joke.

Inside joke.

Quelling the elements

Meditation is often difficult. There is so much mental pollution to wade through. The times we live in beget a radical standard with which to access deeper states of awareness. Meditation is to Banisteriopsis Caapi in a sensory deprivation tank; As walking is to taking a cab to the airport.

The one time I used a sensory deprivation tank however It was a deep experience of realization, but not in the meditative sense, like I have had from hours of psilocin enhanced intensive yoga. No it felt like an abyss of endless potentiality mired by my presence inside of my own body. I just drifted there for 2 and half hours, bouncing my head off one side of the tank and slowly drifting 15 inches or so until my feet bounced off the other side, then back again. It took a good 30 seconds to drift that slow distance, and everytime I felt as I was liberated in some cosmic river; until I hit the wall again.

I felt the powerful state of relaxation mixed with some inner tension that I could not relieve. Like a sea snake moving through the ocean, I imagined its spine tied into a knot. This knot, the point of tension which could never be released. As long as I had a physical form, I would know this tension. *Save for the miraculous and dangerous effects of opiates*. And so I drifted back and forth, realizing myself as a manifest of chaotic phenomenon and eternal creative processes, here in this tank, in total darkness, slowly drifting through my conscious experience, shedding my clinging emotions and habitual mental dispositions. Liberation was here, was available, except for knot.

Even in pure stillness I could feel the tension somewhere concealed, it would subside and disperse but always come back. In my thoughts, a creeping tension, in my nerves the currents primed for firing. The nerves commanded the rest of my body after all, they have a certain disposition about things, a way of wanting constant stimulation and action. Even when I slept my dreams were often punctuated with primitive mammalian fear scenerios. I realized that though I had practiced meditation and yoga for many years I had pursued an alternative path and methodology, without guidance. Indeed I had forced myself into a place without knowing, but my curiosity was too great not to feed, and I was young and naive, an indolent but tenacious dreamer. Opening the box on schrodinger's cat was something that I did all too often. Only to reveal the further enigmatic mysteries of the electrodynamics of the living human nervous system and its nascent phenomena.

My mind drifted and veered into these strange places in total dark abyss with no sensory input. I came to realize that I would never be 'enlightened' I would never know peace, I would never know a pure bliss state. Not as long as I occupied a body, not as long as I was living, there would always be some type of 'suffering' not in the sense of starvation and hunger and horrific torturous tumultuous pain, but in the sense that to be truly 'enlightened' to have attained a state of transcendent awareness was to be in a state of equilibrium, where the body and its surroundings are one, there is no tension, only process and breathe. I realized I would never know this state of expansion and bliss in its totality outside of my own death. Death wasn't to be feared, it was the closing of the process and the submission of the body to it.

Though I have had and continue to have many enlightening experiences, I know that death is the true completion of true understanding, and that until I am dead there will always remain this tension, this manifest creative energy this fire inside of my body and my mind, pulsing streams of ionic information animating the organic machinations of my manifest soul stuff. Floating there in darkness, I imaged my self as a point of tension in an otherwise smooth placid infinite space. My conditioned existence like martian storm fronts, cycling through the processes of day to day existence, searching for meaning in a world estranged from itself, so close to dying.

Suspended animation there alone in the dark, I was the knot in the chaos, the obstruction to my own totality. This tension that would never cease; limitations of the body, the ceaseless mind, the clinging emotions. All of these things were meaningless in the face of such endless perfected existence of pure potentiality. I was nothing here, I was so small, I wanted to be one with it, I wanted to know that emptiness and feel the liberation of totality wash over and drown me in its waves of bliss. But inside something else was present. It would never rest, it would never allow me to know peace.

I wonder about volcanic vents at the bottom of deep ocean trenches that are a possible origin of life on our planet. The vents channel hot gasses from the center of the earth where molten iron and nickel rotate to the tune of geomagnetic constants that harmonize with the sun and the planets, that resonate with the center of the galaxy and the great void of which all these things manifest. The heat from the center of the earth becomes the source of life in an otherwise cold and endless expanse. In space, the ocean, or a tank.

Drifting through the aether space, I realize I have a body, I am a mammal, a hominid, a homo sapien. I live on the earth. But these are relative things, relative to what we know day to day type of stuff, but relative to the absolute I am just a fragment of temporal probability here to complete whatever I choose to make my purpose. Really though floating there in the abyss, I know myself deeper than I otherwise could. I know I am the cosmos, I am the earth, I am the sky, and ocean, and the ionic fire that pulses through my nerves and animates life itself in all its forms.

Amidst the realization of my limitations to grasp deeper understandings without actually going through the process of death; I recognize my own reflection, its true nature staring back at me. The knot could never be cut in life, the tension would remain, the contraction of self was necessary to act as the volitional agent of this living body. The ego as it were.

A spark, gently drifting, an inner tension which will not subside. Floating there in darkened emptiness;

A killer in the void.

Beautiful

Thanks for sharing

Embrace the Tension

Jonathan Zap of zaporacle.com Penetratingly envisioned and expressed Daruma. So many want the release of the tension, the release of the pressure, they want to blow it all out with opiate, orgasm, a narcissistic burst of expression or whatever, but the tension is life. For a long time I have called this tension "alchemical tautness." The level of tension is dynamic and needs to be. Loosen it too much and you have the myriad grey masses of slackers and couch potatoes. Tighten it, tighten it and the psyche may snap, but every so often you may get a Dostoevsky or a Nietzche. I did sessions in a flotation room for a couple of years. Much more spacious than a tank. It was a beautiful facility, but also, in retrospect, a premature nirvana, a technological way back to the amniotic sack. And it was never the perfection it seemed to promise. There was always some little scrape or cut where I could feel the salts stinging. I did get one OBE out of it, but the spontaneous OBEs I've had throughout my life have been more powerful, and have made me realize the sort of aliveness possible when we cross the event horizon of death. Meanwhile I embrace the tension of being an entity in mammalian form, here with so many fellow entities incarnating in the Babylon Matrix.

huh

The interaction between entities of similar vibrational frequencies on an etheric/ physical level that were once an androgynous singularity is far more thrilling than the "hotties" you allude to. I am sorry, but your lack of recognizing the power of an alchemical twin flame of unifying polarities between masculine and feminine tends to confuse me (not really, just jesting) more than what I recognize through the experiential knowledge of Love. While in the majority of cases the physical attraction of most incarnated animal divinities takes precedent over the truer recognition of a twin flame or "soul mate" it goes without saying that a transcendental relationship between the foolish masculine and the trickster feminine can be achieved through proper spiritual processes. Through mutual conquering of reptilian energies within the sacral powers, reflections of the clearest mirror, not darkest glass, can ascend and join in a healthy and unifying way. This path is rare but more than probable, and very illuminating. For solitude is worth one incarnation as is the true convergence of the once androgynous being of universal oneness that two separate genders can reclaim in another incarnation by finding each other in this all too largely finite plane of existence. While this article has extremely valid and useful information regarding the nature of being "in-carnate" or "as animal" it lacks the balance to discern between the difference of a purely carnal physical attraction and a spiritual union between two equally imperfect yet complimenting opposite energy beings. Through Love we can be between oneness and eachness, instead becoming bothness (ha, see what I did there<-;]), be content with sharing an androgynous consciousness of exploratory and healing navigation through the forever enfolding frequency domain of Mind. Namaste fellow traveler... "in order for there to be order... there must first be disorder"

So my modality won't be

So my modality won't be perfect, but how could that excrete me disorganised that I am another somebody? I works don't get it. If I'm looking at another mortal through the sullen solid, won't I be healthy to narrate they are another human by their autarkic movements? But formerly I am no somebody in the embody of the care, and no mortal in babyhood, and know that the fuss is not me, wouldn't I grow the mistake of mentation other mammal is voice of me? Travel planning

Can't Remember

Jonathan Zap of zaporacle.com Hey Zezst, I can't remember any non mammalian incarnations. I think that's part of being stuck in the dark glass. I've just gotten so wrapped up in the whole mammalian scene going on here, the whole blooming, buzzing, in-your-faceness of it that I can't think of anything else. But the guide seemed to be aware of alternatives, and by implication I do as well as I can see the arbitrariness of so many of the mammal matrix default parameters. And I know what it's like to separate from the flesh for an OBE and that is incredibly exhilirating.

Androgyny

Jonathan Zap of zaporacle.com Oh, and Japer2012, I've written a lot about androgyny. Here's my most thorough treatment of the topic: http://www.zaporacle.com/casting-precious-into-the-cracks-of-doom-androg...

interesting

Your androgynous analysis is interesting, though two unified andro-beings then create what?

 

Also your essay on the WMRL is also interesting, though autoeroticism is unable to unify two beings in a scared and transmutive manner.  you have many great points about how romance has crucified love to an unrealistic ideal, but stories are written by reality that parallel even the most fantastical of love stories.  You tend to have excellent intuitive response to the questions love poses in this plane, but you seem to be undermining a mystery never meant to be solved.  Love is a feeling, an energy, and it is here to teach us, to fool us into finding one within our self and being able to recognize that one in another.  A dualing of snakes, a healing of another, an expression of the light.  Even if it is impermenant, like all things except the eternal imagination, unification with the reflective compliment of a consciousness is a wonderful feeling of love, not some maligned misprojection.  The Tree of life bears fruit to the fool and the trickster through a process of humble interactions manifesting as earthly ego destruction, through the contemplation of individuality within the emergence of consensual union with the most powerful sacrament.  The lock and the key, opening the door of possibility.

 

We all wander, to get lost along the way, but how did we expect to find anything without stepping from the blinding light into the ephemeral darkness?

 

"in order for there to be order... there must first be disorder"

meh

this article, unless I am mistaken, is written from the point of view of pure selfish mysticism and indulgence. WE NEED *EACH* ness to know that EACH EXISTS - and if you think that you could do that all by your self, that you do not need UNION - then I suggest that you might be going down a very dark and lonely path of pure masturbation and are avoiding one of the key transcendent truths.

If you want to prove to yourself that you can turn yourself on without another - then go have a fantasy and jerk off.

Mammals,yes, human beings more importantly - and higher intelligence REFINES rapture and union.

"Boredom of Oneness"?

I don't mean to sound mean Jonathan, so blame the Divine Shakti-in-me for raining on your idea about "boredom of Oneness for all eternity." :)

^^ Our consciousness is both/end the I am of the Soul as well a portal to Universal / Divine Consciousness, that's why it's not possible to ever be "bored", because intelligence and creativity are embedded in the very fabric of who we are at each stage of consciousness. Everyone, in each 'dimension' has access to an infinity of choices.

^^ If interested to see what She/Soul who hears cries of the world does in the subtle/causal dimensions, have a look at "Peer-love-Vibing @ the Speed of Light" Dec/4/09 blog.

^^ If interested why Shakti and Shiva archetypes are "real", have a look @ "Shiva-Shakti Marriage Om Hrim" - August/ 2011

 ^^ Same month, "Sacred Marriage" blog-entry.

 ^^ "Supracosmic Tonglen Duty", from March/2011

 ^^ "Supreme Ecstasy What is it's Purpose", from June/2010

^^ Or, not

shoot!

sorrrry, forgot to include my blog address! www.spiritspeaks-theofilia.blogspot.com

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Social Matrix Source Code Revealed

Jonathan Zap of zaporacle.com There was a golden nugget of key SM source code within the Meh of RV above: "WE NEED *EACH* ness to know that EACH EXISTS - and if you think that you could do that all by your self, that you do not need UNION - then I suggest that you might be going down a very dark and lonely path of pure masturbation and are avoiding one of the key transcendent truths." This statement is true to a degree. We do need the realization of the eachness, of the otherness of the other so that we don't fall into solipsistic traps. We need union in the sense of deep contact with the otherness of the other. Soulful relations with other humans is a core, irreducible value. But there is also a key SM source code of a more questionable sort lurking within this statement. An unexamined premise that turns up in so many cultures including the American school yard, and amongst many religious fundamentalists and that is that auto-eroticism is low status and unfortunate compared to interpersonal sex. This low status evaluation, if not taboo, attitude toward the auto-erotic may unconsciously serve the purpose of sealing off a vulnerability in the SM source code, a point where magic can overrule conditioning. If one is able to create a primal experience out of the oneness without others, and without the imprimatur of any social structure, any external authority, without the approval even of some more creative and individualized subcultures we might belong to, then we have attacked the monolithic power of the Social Matrix. Like the Catholic Church which insists that it must be present to supervise primal events like death, church sanctioned sex must be preceded by its imprimatur and rituals, so too birth, etc. But if one can serve oneself the sacrament of orgasm without the approval of any human agency, not even a single other person, then you are pushing against the forbidden boundaries of the Social Matrix. The SM wants, like the CC, to supervise and be present at sacramental events. It insists that it mediates between you and your own primal energy. For the SM, if you want a high status orgasm it must be with one of our agents, and therefore you must assimilate yourself to our structure to be granted this communion. In this way you are bound to a mamamalian network and are castrated as a magical entity capable of the hieros gamos, the internal union, the marriage of yin and yang energies within. To the socialized, you follow a dark and lonely path, which is their way of saying you enter a portal that their gods forbid them to enter.

huh?

Your reply here is, I believe, a little manipulative and certainly rich in paranoia. There are a few fundamental truths about existence that are removed from your summary.

It's not just about sexuality. Sexuality is fundamental to existence, yes - but it's not just that we need any form of *union* to have sex, but we  need each other to even know we exist in the first place. And in this regard, *auto* eroticism is simply a metaphor to express someone refusing union and cutting themselves off from others while deluding themselves as to otherwise.  It's certainly not meant as a way to lower status of masturbation in and of itself, however masturbation involves a fantasy ABOUT union in the first place - it's simply a ritual about desiring union. You are the one that is rasing the fantasy about union ABOVE the union itself.

Simply put...your projecting. 

Your 'Social Matrix' issue is i believe very paranoid. Collective intelligence yes, IS a matrix, and potentially a very old if not eternal one. It exalts itself in WIN WIN, and lowers itself in win lose. Your focusing on the win lose and insisting on a lonely WIN with out others as some sort of arcane method of blowing up the 'Death Star' to use a metaphor.

Our individual and collective transformation is only obtainable  INSIDE of a win win collective intelligent matrix. We cannot WIN without others just as much as we cannot LOSE without others. 

We need each other to know we exist on ALL levels of sentience. Your focus on the *sex* alone I do not think will serve you.

Let us refine our rapture as highly intelligent sentient creatures.

Yes, let us be HOT like all beings of white light.

 


Jonathan Zap of

Jonathan Zap of zaporacle.com To see this way of viewing the autoerotic better explained see the link I gave above: http://www.zaporacle.com/casting-precious-into-the-cracks-of-doom-androg...

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Jonathan Zap of zaporacle.com At least one very well controlled study showed that men who masturbate have a very significantly lower level of prostate cancer than those that don't. So there are health risks associated with not ejaculating regularly. So if you have any well-controlled studies that show health benefits to withholding ejaculations please provide the links.

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Jonathan Zap of zaporacle.com At least one very well controlled study showed that men who masturbate have a very significantly lower level of prostate cancer than those that don't. So there are health risks associated with not ejaculating regularly. So if you have any well-controlled studies that show health benefits to withholding ejaculations please provide the links.

master debater

I can't make heads or tails out of this article, it's perhaps a little too arcane knowledge like for me.As a poet of the absurd, I don't take sides, I just listen to the hubub and the low fi fe fi fo fummery.We all are jerked around, one way or the other.If folks have the time to study arcane subjects and practice some yogic thang, all the power to ya.I do a little Tai Chi but I became more enamored by arcane literature.I read every dang weird thang I could get my grubbly lil hands on.Gurdjeiff was not my little man, I liked that book called 'Creative Imagination in the Sufism of Ibn Arabi' I was reading that along with Nietzsche, I would read a little of one then jump to the other, that helped me to keep reading and enjoying it, even if a lot of it went right by me.I mean how can I ever really grok anything fully? I would have to have ten thousand life times to begin to see what these great thinkers are on about, is this the master debater game?

oh and was that what Lao Tzu was on about the mother of the ten thousand things?

'The nameless is the

'The nameless is the beginning of life.
It is the mother of the ten thousand things.

Remove your desires and you will see the mystery.
Be filled with desire
And you will see only the manifestation.'

ur sprachin

about Lao Tzu, I wonder about the myth of why he wrote the Tao Te Ching down, something about the gate keeper, asking him to.And I also read something years ago, that the Tao Te Ching was like some code thing for generals.I like watching those epic movies about China with all that kung fu you fighting.You never see any movies about those willy Taoists, maybe that's because they were always in a mystic misty foggy valley.And now days a rich dude can go to China and get a certificate in Taoism, I bet the real willy Taoists have some misty mystic tai chi that no money can ever buy.I wonder grasshopper, what Denis Hopper was talking about in Apocalypse Now, to the guy in the bamboo cage, he was reciting some quantum equation along with some line of poetry by T.S Eliot... you should have been a pair of ragged gloves scuttling across the floors of silent seas...

Are you all cereal?

One thing psychedelics have continued in me is a healthy sense of humour. This article, my friends, is SATIRE! But...good luck with the Hotties! CJ Hinke Bangkok

Thanks unblocktheplanet

Jonathan Zap of zaporacle.com I'm glad someone gets that.