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What makes a religion a religion? This question was posed to me by a professor at Swarthmore college in Philadelphia this past November. I was visiting a classroom of undergraduate Philosophy and Religion students talking about ayahuasca shamanism. Another question that was posed to me was, “Is ayahuasca a new religious movement?”

I said, “yes.”

She asked, “Why? What makes something a religious movement?”

Wow,
I thought to myself, I’m playing with the big boys and girls now. A PhD professor at the nation’s first Philadelphian Quaker school is asking me a question about what constitutes a religion. I had better come up with something brilliant to say!

I tried to think of something from William James or Mircea Eliade, from Joseph Campbell or Carl Jung, maybe even Robert Anton Wilson. All BS. If Ayahuasca had taught me anything, it was to realize where my energy was heading, and my energy was heading straight toward a contrived answer not based in my own personal experience. In short, this is exactly what bad religion is all about. So I took it from there.

“Religions,” I said, “are built to contain or maintain a personal or communal connection to the divine. They are like tools or technologies. At best, religions aid in our connection to the numinous or the divine, and they foster a sense of community and unity. I think they are a good thing. Religions help us deal with suffering and they help us to create meaning and pleasure. However, on a more troubling note, I think what defines most religions is a discomfort with pain and suffering, or loneliness and isolation. Most religions take the reality of suffering as a fundamental truth, as well as the ability to transcend that suffering and move closer to bliss and happiness through various ecstatic rituals, purification rites, or beliefs about the nature of suffering itself. Religions are built around these fundamental truth-claims regarding suffering and the practices that emerge from them. Religion, at its worst, is too concerned with trying to answer questions about suffering rather than living these questions through to their natural completion and letting go of the need for ultimate answers.

What I went on to say became the first formulation of something that has been brewing within me during the ten years since my exodus from evangelical Christianity, through my initiation with Ayahuasca shamanism in the Amazon, and into my current adult situation. My answer was not an attempt to reduce or rid myself of religion, it was an attempt to locate myself within and exorcise myself from bad religion. I can’t say how strange, yet liberating it felt to speak on this subject.

Specifically, I was asked to talk about how the “New Age” fit my (just then proclaimed) definition of religion. I was also asked whether or not I believe that the appearance of this “New” religion is a positive thing. Here’s what I said:

 


The New Age Teaching About Separation

Separation is an illusion that we need to liberate ourselves from. This is the most fundamental truth-claim of the New Age movement. It is largely abstract, illogical, and it is no different than the Christian claim that man’s internal condition is fallen and sinful. The idea at the core of the New Age is that “separation consciousness” is a real phenomenon and the baseline condition of human, “dualistic” consciousness that is responsible for the evils, woes, unconsciousness, greed, and problems of both individuals and the world at large. The truth, if you just believe it, is that you are not inherently separate from anything or anyone else. It’s all “one.” It’s all “unified.” Do yoga and you will see. Drink ayahuasca and you will see. Watch "What the Bleep?" or read "The Power of Now," and you'll be delivered.

Compare this to the Christian idea that “sin” (which in the old language means ‘to miss the mark’) is a real phenomenon and the baseline condition of human consciousness that is responsible for the evils and struggles in both individuals and the world at large. The truth, if you just believe it, is that you are at one with God if you just accept Jesus into your heart. Just say a prayer, just join the church. If you do so then you return to a state of grace and communion with God by the living Christ.

People have been pointing out this relationship between Christianity and this idea of unity comsciousness for a long time (it's just been warped by the church over thousands of years). Three years ago I was so excited to find that accepting Jesus into your heart was really no different, could in fact be the equivalent OF, accepting unity consciousness into my life. At first I wanted to vindicate Christianity because I felt like I had found the "heart" of what I had always already believed  within the religion I was raised in.

Now, as I’ve watched the same old hypocrisies, judgments, and self-castigations appear in each and every New Age community I’ve participated in, I’ve come to a conclusion—the New Age movement is just as subtly and psychically violent or obsessed with trying to answer the problem of suffering as any Christian church I ever belonged to; it’s just a different costume. I'm not sure it's a good thing that the New Age and Christianity are so similar afterall.

 


The New Age Teaching About Ecstatic Experience

If you level the criticisms I've just made at a strong-minded New Ager they will likely respond with two general (and mostly insincere) responses. First, they will tell you that you are free to believe and be whoever you want to be; that it’s all included in Unity Consciousness, so no pressure to be anything! This insincere double standard is the reason this group has a hard time organizing itself and making substantive changes on the societal level. Behind your back this same person will most likely think or say, “We just have to hold space for this person’s evolutionary process. They will have to muck about in separation and ego until they get the picture. We unconditionally hold a space of love for that person.”

The second thing a slightly bolder New Ager will tell you is that your consciousness is actually wrong, it’s based in separation, which is MORE painful than unity consciousness and hence less desirable. They will then testify to this truth based on their personal experience in higher states of consciousness through means such as eye gazing, yoga, or ayahuasca (to name a few).

Compare these two defenses to the Christian evangelical strategies. One; a more liberal Christian will tell you that there is no pressure to believe anything. That God loves everyone, and that you are free to be whoever you want to be. Behind your back that same Christian will then pray for you and the conversation among believers will go similarly: “We can’t pressure people. Each person comes to God and Jesus on their own terms. They have to spend their time carrying that load until they realize Jesus can take it for them.”

The slightly bolder, slightly edgier Christian will say that you are in danger of the flames of hell, a place that they’ve learned to transcend through their personal connection to God. They will tell you about the times they’ve spoken in tongues, lost themselves in worship, gotten drunk in the spirit, or even prophesized and had visions!

On both accounts, I’ve watched the same old problems melt people down. The attachment to the form of worship and the ecstatic experience develops like any other drug or intoxicant. The psychic judgment of others cloaked in unconditional love consumes and devours self and other together, and the old wheel of suffering continues to turn as people continue to obsess over it.

 


The Congregation and the Sangha


New Age people think it’s a new idea to proclaim the advent of the next Buddha as a collective. Christians have been proclaiming the same messianic idea for 2,000 years. People think that large New Age festivals are innovative and capable of raising the vibration. Christians have been packing out sports stadiums and convention centers for decades with "prayer warriors" trying to do the exact same thing.

What do we find at our local New Age communities? We find preachers in the garbs of shamans. We find evangelism movements in the form of bus tours and meditation flash mobs. We find character clothing as predictable as white Texans at a church picnic. We find clichés like “Aho” flying through the air as regularly as “Praise Jesus.” We find the elevation of sacraments like psychedelics as pompous and reticent as Catholics and wafers; gay porn preachers and sex-scandal charlatan shamans. The list goes on. We’ve got megalomaniacal eye gazing, obsessive compulsive past-life story tellers, and born again whackos with old shit barns filled with sin and “now I’ve found the light” redemption stories. We’ve also got refined Burning Man scholars who are doing something to actually change the separation world, and we’ve got the local born again high school teacher that feeds the poor and visits the dying without explicating his true inner convictions. We hold the conviction that separation is real (if we’re a Christian), or that it’s a real illusion (if we're a New Ager), and we hold it with dignity and intelligence and silent pride. We’re the liberal elite believers now!

As a group, en mass, despite our imperfections, despite all of it, we’re the 99% and you had better believe that change is a’coming. Aho! As the body of Christ, we are the believers and Jesus is a’coming back, Lordy Lord!  Praise Jesus!

What Good Amidst These? Oh Me, Oh Life?

But let's face it, I'd be a real asshole if condemned religion or Christianity, or the New Age movement. I’d be a jerk if I tried to say that I don’t see suffering in myself or in the world, and I’d be insincere if I didn’t say that I have built religious technologies into my daily life in order to cope with suffering. I still drink Ayahuasca with a regular group. I study Astrology and practice the esoteric art full-time. I try to study the text of my life in symbols and synchronicities. I try not to project. I try to be a good human being. I try to make a difference. I try not to get pissed off when a New Ager tells me there is no such thing as “try.”

One thing that I know up to this point is that it seems impossible to escape irony, subtle self-implication, laughter, and pain. I try not to worry. Astrology has taught me one thing about the advent of this new Age of Aquarius—we need to start thinking outside of the box, that’s what Aquarius and its ruling planet Uranus is all about. Think ahead of what you think you already know. Find the divinity in the opposite truth of the ones you hold to be the most true, deepest down, most fundamental, even most progressive.

Is separation a bad thing? No. And we should stop thinking it is. We should stop building a story around the move from separation consciousness to Unity consciousness. It’s just an inversion of the same old linear Christian story. If we want to do that, then let’s at least be honest with ourselves about what our dogma looks like and the fact that, ultimately, like any other dogma, it is just a temporal truth claim that cannot be validated beyond the faith that we put into it.
I admit that the story I am telling right now is perhaps another form of dogma. It is perhaps based in yet another kind of faith. Perhaps a more agnostic faith or perhaps a more cynical faith. And because I know this irony to be true, I have refused to fully let go of my New Age practices, and my New Age friends, and my Aho. This is why I also refuse to stop wearing the cross around my neck, praying to God, and believing in angels and spirits and higher states of consciousness. This is why I refuse to believe that the Occupy Wall Street movement or the evangelical efforts of any of our nation's Christian churches aren't trying just as hard as they can to eliminate suffering and create a truly better, truly more unified group consciousness. I refuse to believe these efforts can be reduced to the most crass of their groping caricatures. There is no sin in the word "try."

I want the world to know that despite all of this, I still believe. From time to time I find myself believing in something, at other times everything, and from time to time I find myself believing in nothing. I hope my process never looks like a costume because, mostly, I just want to be me and I’m so thankful for the opportunity to do so.

I didn’t say all of that last paragraph to the class of college students that day, but I said most of the rest of what is written in this article. The students were only around 19 or 20 years old, but most of them seemed to get what I was saying. As we walked across campus toward the train station the religion professor said to me, “I’m curious to hear what they thought of your point of view, but more than that, Adam, I’m curious to hear what they thought about you and what kind of cultural meme you represent to them.” She winked at me.

Aho! And Praise Jesus!

 

Comments

Yoga and non-duality

Drew,

You said that "for yoga to work is has to be based on non-dual philosophy." As an instructor of comparative religion, I feel compelled to point out that this is not necessarily true.

The classical Yoga of Patanjali
, one of the six darshanas--"views" or "schools" of orthodox Hindu philosophy--has its origins in the Samkhya school, which was noted for its strong philosophical dualism between prakriti (matter) and purusha (person/mind/spirit). In fact, for many, the most salient distinction between the two schools was that Yoga included the notion of a God, whereas Samkhya did not.

Since Vedanta became the dominant form of Hindu philosophy, and supplanted Samkhya, the philosophy and practice of Yoga became more amendable to non-dualistic metaphysical teachings (like that of Advaita Vedanta) but it is good to remember that there are dualistic understandings of Vedanata too.

Sorry for the pedantry. I guess it comes with the whole instructor territory...

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Religions are different ways

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Generalized Universality

"Familiarity breeds contempt" ... "new-agers", "Christians", "psycho-naughts", " hippies" ... anything and everything other than individual person-hood ...

Am I a "who" ... or a "what" ... a belief system or a personality.

Anything that re-establishes allegiance is religion ... like the term yoga, it is a very open and expansive {all encompassing} term. Universal in it's application ... like "the religion of having no religion" ... the "yoga of not doing" ... the belief in disbelief ...

As if perpetually each others "nemesis muse" ... as if to limit language itself to our mere supposition{s}

In this world of overgeneralized mass communication is there anything to be found beyond the stereotypical ?

Can one ever simply know beyond comparison, interpretation ... judgement.

Is there such a thing as a conscious being who does not already know whatever  they have potential to actually understand.

As it 'tis only the questioning itself that is the perpetuation of all misnomer.

 

"Wonder is what Mystery would do if it was conscious" ...

"Wandering is for every other possibility"

Pippalayana Muni r

Right on

I think this is right on brother, it's so easy to forget that separation is part of reality, part of the divine, and the lens through which we perceive and interact from. We need to acknowledge our own separation and isolation and be vigilant to how this force operates within us...Who do we see as being outside of God? Republicans? the Illumanati? What parts of ourselves do we see as being outside of God? Our animal nature? Our anger? All live within and through God and it is through the illusion of separation that we can come home. Anyways well said and I always appreciate what you bring in your writing!

mmmmm

i just don't know

The ouroboros continues its meal

These conversations are great to read. Opening up these criticisms are opening up the pandora's box. Everything we see seems to has something wrong with it except the words that come out of our own mouths... until we reread them later. These days, it seems the search for truth is obsession, one I enjoy reading on this website and its comments. Such high standards we set for ourselves and the world. The only truth I could possibly communicate is in my eyes, not in the words on these screens. Oh, if only I could give it over, hold it plainly in my open hand. But if I could, i would give it to the people I love, not strangers on the internet who I will never know and are less real to me than television characters. I see why people write such long comments to these things. This is a lot of fun.

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Ayahuasca and Religious freedom

In my religious studies education it was very interesting to see how professors deal with stuff like the ayahuasca worship. Some professors are interested and want to know more, and others are too afraid of the social stigma to want to touch it.

In terms of definitions I would say that only the modern syncretic form of ayahuasca worship should be considered either a new religious movement or New Age. Churches like the Santo Daime definitely should be considered as new religious movements, as they blend Christianity with the traditional ceremonies. But the older traditions that never incorporated Christianity at all, and do not pander to ayahuasca tourism should not be considered New Age, or new religious movements. Those traditions are thousands of years old.

Another interesting question to consider, is how should we think about the religious context of when a Western person takes ayahuasca in a Western setting with their own personal views on how to do it. This context can be completely different from the syncretic or traditional practices.

The point that I find extremely significant is that if the latter type of practice can indeed be considered religious worship (and I believe it should be) then ayahuasca as a substance should be 100% legal for Westerners as a means of religious freedom. Just because we were not born into a shamanic tradition doesn't mean that we can't have a spiritual experience with shamanic plants. I feel that if the psychedelic community had it's collective shit together we would all be lobbying for personal ayahuasca use to be legal under our religious freedom protection in the Bill of Rights.

Ayahuasca Religion

Hey Tristan, I agree with your last point about the freedom to use Ayahuasca as a religiously protected/shamanic substance. This is just my opinion, but I believe most existing ayahuasca communities, although not united by "institutional" or "bureaucratic" parameters like the DAIME or UDV, are still religions. To me what defines a religion is a commonly held set of dogmas and a set of accompanying (though more variable from community to community) doctrines. I feel like we can readily identify most Ayahuasca dogmas and also many doctrines (at least groups that feature western guests/tourism/etc), and I feel that these dogmas and doctrines are mostly the same as what I would also call the "New Age" religion, new age movement. They all seem to share the belief that the "separation illusion" is a natural condition that most people suffer from. My point in this article is to suggest that this fundamentalist belief at the core of most of these aya communities and New age groups, this "dogma," is literally just an inversion or reconceptualizing of the Christian belief in original sin. Most existing Mestizo shamans were influenced by Catholicism at one point or another--prior to this, I still believe that the problem of suffering and the core beliefs around this "problem" are what define most organized shamanic rituals. I don't think it's a bad thing, but to the extent that we all cling on to a particular, exclusive version of truth with regard to the problem of suffering I think we are participating in religion. I agree that, classically, the syncretic groups like the DAIME and UDV are more in line with our images of a religion, but my experience with many other groups, traveling shamans and their cliques, etc, etc, is exactly the same. They remind me of the loan wolf preachers in the Evangelical world who start their own churches out of old commercial spaces or gymnasiums. Their intention is very much to build a community around a sacrament, belief, practice, set of teachings, etc. The problems in community and practitioners are so similar its striking to me! The older traditions you are speaking of that do not pander to tourism, etc, I completely agree. Not what I was trying to play with in this article--but it's an important point so thanks for bringing it up. I wonder how many of those still exist? Adam Elenbaas

For Christs Sake!

The word Christ/Christos, has it's root in the Greek kristos, krsta, which can also be traced back to the Sanskrit {mother of all languages} Krsna or the phonetic krishna ... referring to the "father in heaven" and not the "son on earth"

The "I" in christ is originally soft like in "christening the boat" ... the "e" jesus is also soft like Jeshua.

The Jesuits have an archaic phrase "jesus de christ" ... both vowels pronounced soft ... meaning nothing but "son of the father" ... equivalent to the Buddhist more impersonal "enlightened by the void"

The general descriptions most give to the English "Christ" is "the anointed one" .. or "he who anoints all with blessings" ... again, in reference to the father/source ... hence the christening of the boat ... the anointing ritual of virtually anything becomes auspicious with the verbal invoking of the "father" .. source of all manifest creation"

Jeshua as "he who has been anointed by the father himself" ... offering blessings after having been so blessed etc etc.

In Sanskrit, the likely root of it all, the first syllable Krs means "to attract" ... and "na" means to give pleasure, or reside in an ecstatic state of pleasure ..

So Krsna, the supreme being / father in heaven etc, attracts all and gives pleasure to all .. or ... all attraction and pleasure reside within him.

The Hare Krsna's take it step further and say that there are six categories of attraction {krs} Strength, Beauty, Wealth, Fame, Knowledge, Renunciation ... which also give pleasure {na}

Basically where ever one finds attraction and pleasure it's source is in Krsna ... which to them is embodied in sound primarily ... beyond dogma or belief ... directly incarnate in mantra ..

Hare Krsna Hare Krsna Krsna Krsna Hare Hare

Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare

Like certain combinations of musical notes can evoke similar emotions in large numbers of listeners, being a sonic science of sorts, mantra yoga also has such mystic potential apparently locked within ... proper pronunciation being all that is essential.

Whatever is said and or understood in relation to Jesus Christ, it will always be in deference {and not reference} to the God of all ... Father of all sons etc etc

... Jesus 'but being a particularly blessed one.

The original "gimmick of hypocrisy" was to say "Jesus was God himself incarnate" .{Jesus "the" Christ} and not merely "of " Christ}.. how else to command absolute submission?

No need to mythologize hypocrisy however as the religious and secular both seem to apply such with vigor whenever they can get away with it ...a most common "sin" that anyone can fall victim to.

"Wonder is what Mystery would do if it was conscious" ...

"Wandering is for every other possibility"

Pippalayana Mu

Kicking out the money changers from the temple

Words have lost meaning, the names of things are not the things themselves, only the past taking shape in our minds eye

Modern religion is allot like modern athletics

http://www.onnit.com/shroomtech-sport/

It makes sense to see plants and the earth not only as ally's but as the very reason for our being. Protecting the temple earth is our purpose, its not to destroy ourselves under the spell of the christian ego complex. This is only recent history relative to the length of our species appearance on the earth. We have vast future beyond now, it is our purpose to explore and experience and gain knowledge of the cosmos, to exchange knowledge, to explore strange new worlds. To seek out new life and new civilizations. To boldly go where no one has gone before.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6NPq_kPSUM

From Thomas Gospel: Jesus said to his disciples, "Compare me to something and tell me what I am like." Simon Peter said to him, "You are like a just messenger." Matthew said to him, "You are like a wise philosopher." Thomas said to him, "Teacher, my mouth is utterly unable to say what you are like." Jesus said, "I am not your teacher. Because you have drunk, you have become intoxicated from the bubbling spring that I have tended." And he took him (Thomas), and withdrew, and spoke three sayings to him. When Thomas came back to his friends they asked him, "What did Jesus say to you?" Thomas said to them, "If I tell you one of the sayings he spoke to me, you will pick up rocks and stone me, and fire will come from the rocks and devour you."

'Intoxicated from the bubbling spring that I have tended.'

Biblical Entheogens: a Speculative Hypothesis 'The ideas entertained here were primarily based on the fact that in the arid areas of the Sinai peninsula and Southern Israel there grow two plants containing the same psychoactive molecules found in the plants from which the powerful Amazonian hallucinogenic brew Ayahuasca is prepared. The two plants are species of Acacia tree and the bush Peganum harmala. The hypothesis is corroborated by comparative experiential-phenomenological observations, linguistic considerations, exegesis of old Jewish texts and other ancient Mideastern traditions, anthropological lore, and ethnobotanical data.'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2IJdfxWtPM

jesus christ

JESUS CHRIST (Woody Guthrie) Jesus Christ was a man who traveled through the land

Hard working man and brave

He said to the rich, "Give your goods to the poor."

So they laid Jesus Christ in his grave.

Jesus was a man, a carpenter by hand

His followers true and brave One dirty little coward called Judas Iscariot

Has laid Jesus Christ in his grave

He went to the sick, he went to the poor,

And he went to the hungry and the lame;

Said that the poor would one day win this world,

And so they laid Jesus Christ in his grave.

He went to the preacher, he went to the sheriff,

Told them all the same; Sell all of your jewelry and give it to the Poor,

But they laid Jesus Christ in his grave.

When Jesus came to town, the working folks around,

Believed what he did say;

The bankers and the preachers they nailed him on a cross,

And they laid Jesus Christ in his grave.

Poor working people, they follered him around,

Sung and shouted gay;

Cops and the soldiers, they nailed him in the air,

And they nailed Jesus Christ in his grave.

Well the people held their breath when they heard about his death,

And everybody wondered why; It was the landlord and the soldiers that he hired.

That nailed Jesus Christ in the sky.

When the love of the poor shall one day turn to hate.

When the patience of the workers gives away

"Would be better for you rich if you never had been born"

So they laid Jesus Christ in his grave.

This song was written in New York City Of rich men,

preachers and slaves Yes,

if Jesus was to preach like he preached in Galillee,

They would lay Jesus Christ in his grave.

Would you adam an' eve it?

Hey Adam, good stuff.

The whole unity/separation thing is literally not worth thinking about, as anyone who's comfortable with the paradoxical nature of being/anything knows... The slabbering pursuit of total union is often a kind of self-violence, spirit at the expense of soul.

Awethenticity brother! 

You 

awed 

to know!

Bravo on calling bullshit where you see it.

I wouldn't say ayahuasca is a religion tho, it is what it is, the religious parts/behaviours come when people can't handle that, for better or worse, and shape it towards what they were already looking for, or can't let go of, and not what they found.

zezt - enjoy reading you - fresh n zesty! - but maybe you're committing a literalisation of your own by stating the '...' is a plant/mushroom, or even an experience of communion? Meanings come alive when we're deep in the Mysteries, but they don't stop dancing when we're done.

We know this, yet it's good to remind oursElves often, intit. ;-)

http://www.fleshprism.com/

getting close to what I'd like to say (edited)

striving to be completely honest, I read this expecting to find something to argue with (edit: talking to Adam here, thinking of an old piece of yours I half remember (so don't quote me for accuracy, i'm meaning with feeling) you seemed to be decrying people bringing 'negativity' to this place with their moaning/by voicing their dissatisfaction/having problems with mainstream religion, it seemed insensitive & short-sighted to me at the time) I don't know whether I've moved on or you have - but I'd guess it's both... tis a long road all the same!-)

I'd've liked to be done with the suffering Christ all together, but last time I drank, despite making peace with the old horned god & spending time with the annointing power/christos, something like the man on the cross appeared aGain, stubbornly eternal in the atomic void... except we weren't nailed to a murdered tree, i was sat under a living one looking into us, & we were the dynamic cross of ourselves held in tension, like atlas keeping heaven from earth except holding it together, it's a different kind of suffering, it hurts but it's not pain...

called being human me finks.

odd bless!

Raja's the christ

I pulled this from the hivemind of the Zurich archives supercomputer interwebs for you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-RTE6N-ty4 <p>

 

/Watch?

Raja 'the Christ' doesn't like that...

Raja is jealous of my spam credentials, his god will come to smite me. Small god for a small man. <p>

4:20  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFMcwrhpepk - Jesus

 

 

 

Aye, zezt, eye get ur meme!ng

 

I'll joyin you in this exploratory riffing...

 

we are touched in the touching

imagination is imagining us

just as much as we imagine

(...)

the earth is mother

but mother isn't all,

ambivalent destroyer

as much as homely womb,

the idea, as you say, is to

SEE THROUGH

& not exclude

- contraries &

fairies, common

sense & unsensed

rarities -

as a flower

blooms far beyond

the meaning of the word,

winged as the buzzing

bee witch visits it,

sweet as the honey

witch visits us,

- there is no projection -

just partial views

of an incomprehensible

totality / saved by mystery

- for death is fixity!

/ only the massive

ness of an infinite

-faced jewel

(a world being

rotated by the feet

that walk it)

turning to our I

akNew at every point

of our spIral joURney...

I wRite poetry

beCause

p0etry can never be literal

& yet, literally, it is!

we speak in paradoxes

so the bondaged

can keep on

breathing

!

 

(bi the way:

I'd've thought

a huge phallic sky god

might tickle a gay man

just right? ;-)

just kidding!

I struggled

for years with

sexuality, &

only felt comfortable

when I let it be as open

as it is, not straight

not gay, not even both!

Ever beyond

& never quite there! &

So the point is made 

aGain & agAin,

as dry as the sun

& as wet as rain

 

I bow to you,

we bloom

like hearts

of roses

in the spaces

between

the things

we mean

.

.

.

be

beyONd

& be

blesssed!

 

InJoy

UR prism

of flesh

Good one

Thanks for the funny and informative post. Christianity and New Age-ism are pretty similar. I guess what I'm hearing is don't judge the Christians so harshly, and beware of the allegedly neutral New Spiritualists.

Trungpa talked about Spiritual Materialism. Doing all this spiritual stuff and living a certain way to convince yourself or the world that you are a spiritual person. That can be superficial.

Both mentalities you talk about, unity and separation seem to be mirror images. yet both are talking about an outside world exterior to oneself. Christians are looking to an outside God, New Agers to an outside universe. Can going within rid us of all these externalities? I don't know. But I like this post because it seems you don't either. And you have Adsense of humor about it. I'm leaving that autocorrect typo.

i don't know means i don't know

I can see how the idea of "I don't know" could appear to be an "I know," but I don't think that's what I was doing in this article, and I don't think that's what this previous post was about either. I think all I was trying to point out is that these two ideas about separation and unity have each other in common more than they are at odds with each other. I struggle with both of them (separation versus unity consciousness) in my spiritual life. I'm not trying to hold an "I don't know" as the ultimate answer either. This is exactly why I wrote, "this could be yet another story I'm telling here, an agnostic or cynical one..etc." 

Your tone in this last part seems a little hostile. "The test is coming." Maybe it is, but--maybe not.  

 

Adam Elenbaas

haha

love the autocorrect typo part Culture..hehe Adam Elenbaas

contactile

hey zest, apologies if I offended at all in my last post (the phallic sky god pun!) - sat up late with a big glass of brandy - tend to say the first thing that comes into my head ;-)

anyway - rare to meet people who seem so completely on the same page, I like to keep contact with such brothers & sisters, have some books I'd like to gift you... if you're up for it send me an email sam at flesh prism dot com.

My thoughts..

The fact of the matter is - or seems to be - that truth is truth despite our limiting beliefs or conceptions of it. I can sit here and preach non - dualism till i'm blue in the face, yet still be the so tightly "knottted" that the slightest disturbance will cause me to overreact. Then again, I could have absolutely know idea what "non - dual" even means, yet still have a perfectly realized state of the "void" nature of things.

My point is, belief is irrelevant. Do the the practice, take the ayahuasca and ask yourself what you experience. Likewise, what is it we are experiencing at this very moment reading these words?

The truth is as truth does despite any action (mental ,physical OR spiritual) we do other wise.

thank you!

This was great Royal--thank you for your offering here! 

I don't know that belief is irrelevant--that seems to me a strong belief in and of itself.  If I examine my experience of your truth claim that belief is irrelevant, my felt truth is..."i don't know about that." :-) 

 

Adam Elenbaas

Hey Adam

When you met buff Jesus, did it make you hard?

Nice

fantastic story. Thanks for sharing.

 I feel like I need to tell one now

When I was too young to really be sexual, I used to pretend I was samus from super metroid, right at the part where her suit explodes leaving her naked to be violated by the monsters. WTF 

going at it as an individual

Adam:Practice hatha yoga regularly, a few times a week at least, eat a healthy diet, fresh air, lots of sleep, peaceful surroundings. Explore Zen and your own dreams, read philosophy, forget about the community of new agers, be a community of yourself. Distance your desire from your practice. Be honest with yourself and accept success and failure as equals.All your issues are within yourself. Life is sorrowful, life is absurd, go with the flow. Enlightment is hard work and luck. Dumb people are not capable of enlightenment, so use your brain. I am being honest, there is no ill will. Best wishes and good luck.

thanks yogi-ami

Thanks Yogi-ami,

 

That's great advice! Thanks for being honest. :-) 

 

Adam Elenbaas

practiSing

Ha! Loving the random stories!

Was thinking more about your (to me slightly cryptic) question zezt: "In Eastern philosophy the sacrifice is renunciation of the 'self' in return for 'oneness'. In the secular it is the literalization of the 'object'. Well...what you think?"

I don't know exactly what you mean but it made me think, & I guess this ties into the whole separation/unity (non)thing, the whole idea of something being an object is a literalisation in itself, an object is denied subjectivity, rendered dead by denial of possibilities, but when you sit on the line where the whole world is alive, each object is a subject that the subject of you is equally objectifying & subject to, the whole universe is one flesh exploring itself in partnership with its parts (that are not apart sss!-) and so really, there is nothing to struggle with unless you enjoy the struggle...

We love to renounce the self, and think about purity & perfection & oneness - ah the violence of self-improvement! but when you & everything around you is ensouled, all those lofty goals are just gnats in the wind <to borrow & recontextualise a line of rumi)...

you don't have to practise if you just want two real eyes...

just be :-)

loved this Flesh

Loved these word strings--super gorgeous! 

 

Adam Elenbaas