Mystery X-Shaped Space Object
The Hubble telescope has been tracking a UFO in the solar system's asteroid belt since early January. The object - dubbed “P/2010 A2” after it was discovered by the Lincoln Near-Earth Asteroid Research program sky survey - has traits similar to a comet, but the x-shape appears disconnected from the tail. NASA says that the strange object may be the product of the collision between two asteroids.
The object is the latest addition to the list of strange sightings in the sky over the past couple of months.
Image courtesy of Nasa.gov
- 2-5-10
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just cosmic tic-tac-toe
A derelict spacecraft?
spheres around the sun
Images of seemingly solid spheres have also been seen around the sun lately
http://gazbom.blogspot.com/2010/01/nasa-images-earth-sized-spherical.htm...
http://www.colinandrews.net/SolarSpheres-02.html
More about them torward the end of this article from Richard Hoagland - http://www.enterprisemission.com/Norway-Message3.htm
i have to say
Disclosure?
I wonder if NASA has decided on a policy of slow disclosure. I'm sure it would be easy to remove the objects from the images or go on a disinfo campaign, calling them 'graphic artifacts' etc.NASA saying that they dont know what these ( the 'X' and the 'spheres') are is also unusual. They usually rush to rubbish any mention of anomalous activity or objects. Interesting! Also check out
http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/
for a whole pandoras box of Martian anomalies.
http://www.redicecreations.com/
Nassim Haramein
Some years ago Nassim Haramein gave a lecture in which he suggested that Earth sized ufos could be using the sun as a kind of star gate. He said he studied footage of spherical objects entering the sun which NASA said were comets but they did not have the tails associated with comets.
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/37955/Earth_sized_Ufo_s_using_th...
Recently he gave an interview on coast to coast radio suggesting that the recent spheres seen around the sun could be ships, although he added that it is difficult to distinguish genuine unexplainable objects from dust specks or whatever interfering with the camera lenses.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvT89nh4jKM&feature=related
Personally I find these ideas difficult to believe but hopefully we'll be able to get better images in the future, in a few days the new Solar Dynamics Observatory will be launched by NASA to study the sun with better cameras.
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2010/05feb_sdo.htm
Thank you for these links!
I'm actually working on a longer piece about Nassim Haremein's ideas! I don't use the word genius lightly but for him it applies! (as does visionary)
I have thought for over a year that there is something huge happening in our skies that corresponds to the shift in consciousness taking place person to person.
"As above, so below."
Peace,
jp
NaHa...
Why will it be an enlightening experience?
Hi,
From the tone of your comment am I right to assume you think these physicists will disagree with Haramein's work? If so, this would not come as a surprise. Nassim himself is quite open about his outsider status in the physics community.
That said, it seems Nassim's work is striking a chord. A panel of "11 peer reviewers" selected his paper, "The Schwarzchild Proton" as the best contribution in the field of “Physics, Quantum Mechanics, Relativity, Field Theory, and Gravitation" during the 9th International Conference CASYS'09 (Computing Anticipatory Systems) in Liege, Belgium this past summer.
I have a strong intuitive feeling that Nassim is on to something big. New ideas--especially those that present a radical shift from the current reality paradigm--are rarely immediately welcomed into the world by the established scientific community. Keep in mind that Galileo, the father of modern physics, was convicted of heresy for his Copernicanism, i.e., the belief that the Earth is not the center of the universe.
Peace,
jp
NaHa2...
Yes, I think they will disagree with Haramein's work; in fact, they may not even want to give you their time to bother with it. If this happens, if would be a pity -- some scientists need to learn what happens when they ignore such things.
As to the ``best paper'' prize: That coference is not one focused on elementary particle physics. It is some sort of computing-and-complex-systems conference, and as such before you accept Haramein's claims that this was a great accolade, you should first check: 1) Who were the panelists who awarded him this prize?; 2) How many other papers were there in the category he won it for?; 3) What does the physics community as a whole (or even a well-chosen random sample) think?
Another thing to keep in mind is that sometimes erroneous or fraudlent research gets accepted by even top journals (Haramein doesn't even have papers in top journals, though maybe he has some in third-rate, barely reviewed journals -- you should check this!). For example, check out the recent retraction of the Lancet article on MMR vaccines.
As to the comment ``I have a strong intuitive feeling...''. Reporting the news accurately requires setting your intuitive feelings (see the psychologist and philosopher William James' `system 1') aside and checking facts and logic (exercising system 2). Far too often we listen to our gut instincts (e.g. George Bush), with disasterous consequences. Since you are a ``news editor'', I trust you will do the right thing and do some serious fact-checking, including what I have written here, if you decide to use it as a source.
Yes, Gallileo was convicted... but who convicted him? Was it the ``scientific establishment''?
Finally, let me direct you to an essay by Isaac Asimov titled ``The relativity of wrong''. After a Google search for it, I found the following link:
http://chem.tufts.edu/AnswersInScience/RelativityofWrong.htm
I'm not writing a news piece
Hi Again,
You tend to make a lot of assumptions, E.Sam, including that when I say I'm working on a piece about NA that it is a news piece, which it is not.
You also assume that I haven't done my homework, which I have.
I've researched Nassim's findings and while I'm not a physicist, I think there's a wealth of knowledge and ideas worth exploring in his ideas. As I already pointed out, I'm aware of his outsider status and that he's not in any major journals.
I really don't know what George Bush (senior or junior) has to do with my intuition about Nassim but on the Galileo point you are right--the scientific community didn't condemn him, they merely played the lap dog to the religious establishment by continuing to uphold their outdated insistance that man is the center of the universe.
I appreciate your rampant fact-checking across the site but question the presumptious tone that you often seem to take. No one here is perfect--we're all learning and exploring together.
Peace,
jp
NaHA3...
Ok, this is my last posting to this thread. I will give you the last word (if you wish).
As to your not reporting the news, when you say that you are ``planning on doing a longer piece'' about Haramein, given that this thread is a ``news item'' (`Mystery X-Shaped Object'), from context is reasonable to assume it will at least be a news item or a feature (which is usually also fact-checked) [to me, anything in a newspaper or some magazines is considered `news' -- though I guess this isn't quite right, and that are many categories, like feature, opinion, etc. -- I have just now educated myself on what some of these are termed] that will be posted here on RS. If, however, it will not be posted to RS, then forgive me for misunderstanding.
I really appreciate RS, and have no misconceptions about what it is. I think it is awesome, and has many very interesting people that contribute. And, I really appreciate Daniel Pinchbeck for setting it up (I have been scanning his book on 2012 the few times I go to the bookstore-- I will probably buy it next time).
As to the Galileo comments, let me add one more piece of information: I would argue that the ``scientific establishment'' didn't really exist until the founding of the Royal Society. Sure, there were people who had a scientific frame of mind centuries before, and there were even antecedents way back in ancient Greece; but generally speaking they were not scientists in the modern sense.
As to the ``nobody's perfect'': Indeed, nobody's blaming anyone for making mistakes ;), but we should always try not to make them in the first place. Honestly, newspapers seem to be _really_ bad about mistakes, and some blogs and social networking sites probably report the news just as accurately -- I am always finding factual errors in newspapers, some of which are never corrected. I have a friend who routinely contacts the ombudsman of a major newspaper (I would rather not say which one) every time they make a scientific mistake, and sometimes they outright refuse to admit them!
scientific establish-ment-
Who is Nassim Haramein?
Haramein is a self-trained 'scientist'. He was born in Switzerland. He is known for his theories and sometimes unconventional thinking in regards to space/hyperspace/and so on. He is also well known for founding and working as Director of Research with the Resonance Project, a non-profit scientific unification organization.
He claims to have developed a unified field theory based on the origin of spin/angular momentum defined as a "spacetime torque" which is integral to his "Holofractographic Universe".
Unlike the 'establish'-ed scientists...Haramein has a visionary 'Sense of Divinity' associated with his theories...he is a Futurist and Evolutionary Mind.
He is (one) Scientific Shaman of the 21st Century...
- any further news on Haramein is exciting!
I share E. Sam's sense;
And, closer to home -- Physicists at the UW should work just as well.
There are local science gatherings in Seattle that meet about once a month, and at them, local scientists answer general questions from the public.
Time(+) Locks...
Some incredible information here....What if the spherical objects are UFO's?
This would change everything we (thought we knew) about the Sun!...wouldn't it? The Sun as a Stargate??...Nassim is certainly a visionary.
Time(+)Locks are opening....
Is The Sun Cold?
Over one hundred years ago ... the eminent astronomer Sir William Herschel suggested that the Sun may be inhabited and that the inhabitants may no more suffer from the intense heat than those who live in the tropical regions of Earth! He believed the Sun to be cool body, not a hot, flaming gas ball." —Dr. George Hunt Williamson.*
Sir William Herschel (1738-1822) was a German-born English astronomer who constructed powerful telescopes to systematically explore the heavens. He discovered Uranus, in 1781... two satellites of Saturn, and cataloged many double stars and nebulae.
"Since it has been been shown that the satellite planets are -magnetic- in nature, it is only right to assume that the governing body , the Sun, that rules those planets is also magnetic in nature. So, we might say that the Sun is the magnetic "brain" or ganglion of our entire Solar System. Its forces are the directing intelligence of all the functions of our System. It is from this great central, nuclear body that the planets draw their magnetic energy so that they, too, may generate forces.
Scientists today state that the Sun is a gigantic atomic furnace radiating a tremendous amount of heat to the satellite planets each second. The temperature at its surface is said to be thousands of degrees, and the internal temperature is supposedly in the millions of degrees. However, it is unexplainable how superheated gases can act magnetically. For it is an elementary fact of physics that a substance loses its magnetism when heated! Since astronomers have definitely recorded magnetic effects upon the Sun, we have a direct conflict between the Sun's true nature and the suggested temperature. This conflict only indicates that the Sun is..(possibly).. not the superheated mass of gases that scientists think it is, but rather a cool body as Herschel said it was. "
Other Tongues, Other Flesh..By Dr George Hunt Williamson
~Estructura Oculta Del Sol~
The ancients have said that the true color of the Sun was Blue, and it is interesting to note that the musical note of blue is Sol, a name for the Sun itself.