Mayan Elder Insists 2012 Isn't End of the World

http://www.straight.com/article-260279/your-horoscope-october-1-8-2009

I like to think of it as a Golden Dark Age. I believe we should--- Listen to the Elders.

 

As well, there should be music to usher this era in. 

here's a decent site for anyone interested.. http://www.greatdreams.com/2012.htm

I'm sure there plenty of other doomsday theories just waiting their turn.

 

http://www.beyond-karma.com

While I think it's truly wonderful that folks are looking forward to some kind of massive transformation of consciousness, maybe it's time to consider that 2012 is likely to be another Harmonic Convergence in terms of explicit effect on human existence. While the sheer absence of critical thinking around these issues is vexing, perhaps there is a net gain in terms of getting folks to ponder their own personal development in a way they might not of before.

None of us really knows what's going to happen, but due to the lack of any historical precedent, I'm not expecting much more than another apocalyptic prediction gone bust.

Why do we need any predictions to tell us that what is happening? We know society is Polarizing. No middle path. The rich, and the poor. Forget every prediction about the END. We don't need predictions to see each and everyone of us has a responsibility to end the polarization in society. The Haves and the Have nots. At some point these two ends of the spectrum will meet. How will we treat each other? I went walking to my favourite place over the last three days. What I saw broke my heart. Flocks of Mercedes, BMW's, Audi's, Land Rover's, Lexus, etc. etc. There was enough money in one parking lot to feed the entire population of the city's mentally ill homeless addicted unemployed ever growing population. I walked all the way to Jericho Beach to find the one place I felt at ease. A football field full of crows, and not one of them flew away or looking at me like I didn't belong. We don't need the stars to tell us that we need to start to Love each other, Love heals and Hate kills. It is so easy to resent and live in anger, I know I am as guilty as the next person but I feel paralyzed and powerless. I believe instead of reading the stars looking for the end, we all need to listen to our Hearts which is telling us something is missing. Instead of worrying about things we have no control over: astrological dates etc., we need to begin to deal with things we can solve, like providing the basic needs to all the members of the Human family.

The same article that quotes a Mayan elder on the need to stay calm fails to mention the actual calendar date supported by the Mayan elders. The 2012 date popularized by John Major Jenkins and Jose Arguelles is wrong, plain and simple. Anyone who does more than a superficial investigation of the astronomical predictions of 2012 will find the same (I won't list the flaws here, check out any good skeptic's analysis).

The correct end date of the Mayan calendar is October 28, 2011. This is based on the actual inscriptions at Palenque concerning the evolution of the World Tree--NOT on astronomical observations that Westerners have projected on to the calendar. The interpretation of the Mayan calendar by Carl Johan Calleman and Ian Xel Lungold desperately need to start reaching public consciousness. 2012 is bunk if not disinformation.

I urge readers to check out Calleman's site, for example the article "The Risks of Believing That The Mayan Calendar Ends December 21, 2012". Also check out this interview with Mayan elder Don Alejandro. Both are linked to below. The elegance of this model, which is about the evolution of Time and Consciousness rather than doomsday, should resonate with everyone who hasn't invested too much of their ego in 2012.

http://www.calleman.com/content/articles/risk_of_2012.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_MKHqVsAlQ

Calleman has already written a great article for Reality Sandwich:

http://www.realitysandwich.com/rebirth_celebration_may_911_2009

Also check out this wonderful message to the world from the same Guatemalan elder:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHR9tZvb4l4&feature=relate

 

I definitely think something interesting is going to happen between the dates of October 28, 2011 as the beginning, with December 21, 2012 as some sort of mid-point, and March 28, 2013 (another key date that I have read about) when it will become more clear what to expect. I hope this is a period of transformation and renewal.

However, I think that a lot of people who walk around unaware and in a daze will become the playthings of the Universe and those of us who are aware something is going to happen around this time may have a better chance of surviving what may come, for good or bad.

There is an old saying, "Bad news is good news to the prepared."

Thank you John from the Temple for posting the Calleman article and Alejandro video. The article was great. I just finished watching the Drunvalo 14 pt seris on youtube that Pinchbeck recommended. Drunvalo says many times that Don Alejandro agrees with the 2012 date, but Calleman does not. It seems that the more information I try to gather about any of this the more confusion it brings. I guess my question is why would Don Alejandro tell different people different things?

That'd be great. It's called the Maya of Eternal Time.

They came from an exploding star called 'Hope'...They came to Earth in 1054..

They were the first kachinas..spirit beings who taught star dances...

The Hopi from Hope have danced these star dances for Earth..and the Hopi say 'the end of {time} is coming'....

 

 

from the Eye of the Centaur-Hand Clow

It seems that a lot of people have forgotten their history. The 2012 theories were, always have been, and will remain BUNK for some time.

How many times was the end of the world prophesied by Christians, only for it to not come true? It was going to happen in 2000, and computers were also supposed to crash - didn't happen. And it looks like Apophis won't be hitting anytime soon either. Astrophysicists - NB: physics (that means science!) and not astrology - have pointed out, repeatedly, that the kind of star that we orbit will cease fusing hydrogen when the hydrogen content of our sun will be depleted and begin fusing helium, which will cause it to burn at a different temperature but also expand to point of engulfing the Earth, along with Mercury, Venus, and likely Mars. (If it doesn't, it will hardly matter - nothing will live there anyway.) This will occur in about a billion years, give or take. And if that doesn't do the trick - the Andromeda galaxy is on a collision course with our own. And if that STILL doesn't take the trick, there is that whole universal heat death thing to contend with. It turns out that we have some very fine people in universities (institutions of higher learning) that have been going over this stuff for a really long time - and have a pretty good track record with it. There's the end of the world for ya.