Shattering Subconscious Isolation: Inception, Lucid Dreaming and the Collective Unconscious

The upcoming sci-fi movie thriller by Christopher Nolan, Inception, raises many fascinating questions that experienced lucid dreamers (those who become consciously aware of dreaming while in the dream state) have wrestled with for decades:
- If you become consciously aware of dreaming, can you lucidly enter another's dream, or bring them into your dream?
- If they share unknown information with you, would this provide evidence for a shared or mutual dream?
- And if that information proves to be valid, what does that say about the nature of reality?
- Do dreaming minds have access to an individual or collective unconscious where they share information?
The plot of Inception portrays a talented lucid dreamer, who brings unsuspecting dreamers into a mutual dream environment and then "extracts" information from his or her subconscious. The lucid dreamers in Inception rely on a special machine, PASIV and a special drug, Somnacin, to achieve a stable lucid dream realm and enact their underhanded (or under-minded) deeds.
Inception's basic premise resonates with many experienced lucid dreamers who have empirically investigated these questions of gathering information and interacting in an apparent shared or mutual dream. Though complex, the simple answer to the above questions appears to be "Yes. Lucid dreamers have provided numerous instances of acquiring unknown information while consciously aware in the dream state."
In the movie's dialogue, Cobb (played by Leonardo DiCaprio) explains the three stage approach to ensnaring another's subconscious information while lucid dreaming. "We create the world of the dream," Cobb tells his understudy. After creating a stable lucid dream, "We bring the subject into the dream." Next comes the finale, "And they fill it with their secrets."
Nolan's cinematic version of shared dreaming offers a glimpse of what actually happens, according to some experienced lucid dreamers, possibly because Nolan appears familiar with lucid dreams. In an April 4, 10 LA Times interview with Geoff Boucher, Nolan comments on the reality of the lucid dream state.
"You can look around and examine the details and pick up a handful of sand on the beach," Nolan said. "I never particularly found a limit to that; that is to say, that while in that state your brain can fill in all that reality." As to the plot of Inception, he adds, "I tried to work that idea of manipulation and management of a conscious dream being a skill that these people have. Really the script is based on those common, very basic experiences and concepts, and where can those take you? And the only outlandish idea that the film presents, really, is the existence of a technology that allows you to enter and share the same dream as someone else."
Nolan correctly observes that nothing keeps a lucid dreamer from trying to interact with other dreamers in the dream state, and obtain information. In fact, many lucid dreamers have tried this, and some achieved stunning results. Let me share a few examples from my book, Lucid Dreaming: Gateway to the Inner Self, in which lucid dreamers "extract" secret information while consciously aware in the dream state.
A talented lucid dreamer and university student, Ian Koslow, wrote me in 2006 to ask if I truly believed a lucid dreamer could obtain verifiable, unknown information when lucid dreaming? I suggested that he should devise an experiment that will prove or disprove the ability to get unknown, verifiable information in the lucid dream state -- and then try it in his next lucid dream.
A month later, Ian surprised me by submitting a lucid dream in which he did just that. He writes, "I was talking to a girl in my dorm about lucid dreaming, and we were discussing whether or not the people you see in the dream are actually real, or just imaginations. To test this out, we decided to do a little experiment."
The young woman told Ian that she had "an awkward looking freckle" on her back, and she invited Ian to locate her strange freckle in the lucid dream state. Within a week, Ian had two lucid dreams, and recalled the task. In the first lucid dream, he could not make it to her room due to distracting dream figures. But in the second lucid dream, he consciously requested that the woman come to him, and suddenly she entered his room. He recalls, "I finally found her in my lucid dream and searched her back until I saw a dark freckle on her lower back, dead center, right above her ass. I remember thinking during the lucid dream that there was no way this could be the right spot, because I thought I remembered her hinting to me that it was on the side of her back."
Waking with this lucidly sought information, he went down to her dorm room and told her of his discovery. "I went up to her back and pointed my finger at the spot that I saw it in the dream, and to both of our surprise, she lifted up her shirt and my finger was directly covering her freckle. Now, I have no idea what this means, but I don't think it's just a coincidence that I happened to guess exactly where the lone freckle on her back was. All I could think is that the power of lucid dreaming might be more then I imagined."
Notice how the freckle doesn't appear on the side of her back where he thought she hinted it might be; instead, he found it deep down on her lower center back. Notice, too, how in the lucid dream he thinks, "there was no way this could be the right spot" because it runs counter to the suspected hint that he already considered. Thankfully, when he visits the young woman, he points to the exact place indicated in his lucid dream. He follows the lucid dream information faithfully. (pg 177-8)
Another talented lucid dreamer, Clare Johnson, consciously sought telepathic information while competing in the annual Dream Telepathy Contest conducted at the International Association for the Study of Dreams (IASD) conference. This educational event is an outgrowth of the scientific investigation into dream telepathy, conducted by Montague Ullman, MD, Stanley Krippner, Ph.D., and Alan Vaughan in the 1960's and ‘70's. Their book, Dream Telepathy: Experiments in Nocturnal ESP, summarizes the fascinating findings in support of dream telepathy.
On the night of the Dream Telepathy Contest, Clare became aware that she was dreaming and sought to find the "telepathic sender" who was telepathically transmitting an image (earlier in the evening, the "sender" had selected one sealed envelope with an image from a group of four sealed envelopes, and retreated to her room to open the envelope and transmit the image to contest participants). Before falling asleep, Clare incubates the desire to get in touch with the telepathic sender and discover the target image.
In
her dream, Clare notes, "I am wandering around with IASD members, commenting on
the greenness. In the distance, a woman's voice is shouting 'Tree! Tree!' as if
she has just discovered the answer to some fundamental question....Later [in the
dream], we are all at the conference site in a high-ceilinged room, discussing
the dream telepathy contest. I see Beverly [the telepathic sender] across the
room
and know that I'm dreaming this. Beverly looks cheerful but I think
she's got to be tired since she must be having a sleepless night trying to
transmit the image. I ask her how she is feeling. She flings her arms out,
grinning, and says, "I've just been shouting the word inside my
head!"
"That's interesting," I say, "because in my last dream, people
were shouting about trees." I want to ask her outright if tree is the
image she is projecting, but think this might be cheating. A woman across the
room says excitedly, "I've been getting that, too. Tree shouting." We
get into a discussion about the nature of greenness. Is green a positive or
negative colour? We agree that it is both dark and light. Deep and beautiful.
.... Then, very slowly, I wake up. I am smiling in the dark. 'The telepathy
picture really might be a tree,' I think."
Upon waking, Clare finally visits the Dream Telepathy Contest table, where all four images are revealed; however, only one is the "target image." She comments, "When I get to Registration with the slip of paper upon which I scribbled down my dream, there are three images which don't resonate with me at all, and on the end is a picture of the tree I tried to draw in my dream." Clare selects this image and includes her dream report.
A few days later, Clare discovers that she won the Dream Telepathy Contest. Moreover, "I was intrigued to learn that Beverly did actually shout about trees inside her head while attempting to communicate the image. This experience has given me food for thought concerning receptiveness in lucid dreams." (pg 179-80)
The next real-life example touches on the plot twist of Inception, where Cobb must go beyond merely extracting information from another while lucid dreaming - he must "implant" an idea into another's subconscious without them being aware of it. If Cobb can do this "implanting" successfully, he will win his freedom.
In this personal example, I manage to "implant" an idea into another dreamer's subconscious, which she then showed me in the waking world. My lucid dream from November 24, 1998, begins as I lucidly observe the inside of a restaurant, "...when I see my friend, Moe, come inside. She's wearing a white t shirt and black pants. I ask her if she realizes this is a dream. She seems just a little bit alert, so I walk her around a bit. Then I decide to hold her and levitate (to convince her we dream). I keep saying, ‘See, we're floating! This is a dream.'"
Trying to make some impact on her, I get the idea to make a peace sign with my fingers. Putting them in front of her face, I say, "Look, Moe, do you see this peace sign? Every time you see it, it can make you become lucid -- you'll know you're dreaming." Again, I put the peace sign right in front of her face." I wake.
Four months later, I'm traveling on business on the West Coast and call Moe to see about having lunch. We make plans to meet. Arriving early, I wait outside the restaurant, and at last, I see Moe coming down the sidewalk. As she walks up to me, she gives me a curious look -- then suddenly, she reaches up and puts a big peace sign right in front of my face!
I feel completely stunned! I had recalled the lucid dream earlier in the day, but had never mentioned it to her. Shocked, I muttered, "Why did you do that?" I asked. She shrugged her shoulders and said nonchalantly, "I don't know. Just felt like it." Over lunch, I told her about my lucid dream of meeting her and showing her the peace sign and how shocking it felt to see her mimic my lucid dream behavior in the waking world.
Moe's mirroring of my lucid dream action seems impossible to discount as mere coincidence. Not only had a "sign" been exchanged in the lucid dream, but my dream action appeared to influence Moe's waking action. Suddenly, the two worlds of dreaming and waking didn't seem so separate. For a moment on a sunny suburban street corner, lucid dreaming merged with lucid waking. (pg 182-3)
So does lucid dreaming allow us access to another person's mind, as Inception suggests? Or do we all connect subconsciously in a meta-web, mind-grid of a Collective Unconscious, which our ego blithely ignores as illusory dream fantasies? Could we use lucid dreaming to provide scientific evidence of a mental realm or shared inner dimension?
Lucid dreaming offers us a new and revolutionary psychological tool to investigate such questions. Using advanced and experienced lucid dreamers, scientists could develop experiments that consciously explore the mysteries of what psychological researchers are now calling a "hybrid state of consciousness" with features of both waking and dreaming awareness. The dream theories of Carl Jung, often criticized for lacking an experimental basis, could be re-examined through lucid dreaming. From my experience, lucid dreaming points convincingly to a kind of collective unconscious or inner communication system.
Christopher Nolan correctly realizes that "the only outlandish idea that the film presents, really, is the existence of a technology that allows you to enter and share the same dream as someone else." However, he need not worry about technology or lucid dream machines. Talented lucid dreamers have already provided anecdotal evidence of obtaining unknown information while lucidly aware in dreams. This fact alone should wake up science to the potential of lucid dreaming to explore deeper aspects of consciousness - an Inception that many physicists, lucid dreamers and others have long imagined.
Robert Waggoner ©2010
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Great article and coincidental in timing for myself
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Great first lucid dream! It's interesting that so many people report a "voice in my head" which goes on to make an important observation. Reminds me of the "dream emissary" mentioned in Castaneda's Art of Dreamng -- the inner aspect that would always answer truthfully.
You're right about lucid dreams. When that moment happens and your mind does a 180, there's nothing like it. Everything that a moment ago seemed so real, you now recognize as a "creation of the dreaming."
Dreams do "seem real" when we are in them....but lucid, they seem like "creations." It's interesting to note that the original meaning of the Sanskrit term, maya, actually means "creative transformation" -- which seems very similar to what a dream appears to be, once we become lucid -- the dream is a creative transformation of mental, emotional and subconscious energy.
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ah ha!
author of Lucid Dreaming:
author of Lucid Dreaming: Gateway to the Inner Self
http://www.lucidadvice.com
Shattering [the idea of] subconscious isolation is a potential outgrowth of lucid dreaming explorations and scientific testing. In the examples cited, lucid dreamers apparently obtained valid information, while consciously aware in the subconscious. They did it simply through intent.
Experienced dreamers and lucid dreamers (even Freud and Jung for that matter) often voice a belief in support of telepathy and dream telepathy, after numerous incidents of apparent mind to mind communication.
Lucid dreaming allows for a new means of scientific testing, and a new way to explore the subconscious mind.
today's dream
author of Lucid Dreaming:
author of Lucid Dreaming: Gateway to the Inner Self
http://www.lucidadvice.com
Being consciously aware of the process allows for greater analysis and detail in reporting. Lucid dreamers independently report trying to enter another's dream, or in some cases, calling someone into their dream, and the descriptions sound eerily familiar.
When entering another's dream, the lucid dreamer normally reports creating the intent, then going through a period of darkness, followed by stepping through a 'slit-like' opening (as if you cut a movie screen) and being in another's dream. Conversely, when lucid dreamers have called someone into their dream, they often report the other stepping through a slit like opening into the dreamspace.
Techno-Manipulation
Another version of modern man trying to use technology {Inception} to more "deterministically" manipulate organic-to-cosmic states of consciousness.
As if it was not enough that we are subject to all kinds of subtle messages {misinformation/disinformation} in our waking state of advertising and politics ... that someone has to fantasize taking this a step further into the world of dreams.
We are so thrilled at just being able to prove of the possibility of manipulation above and beyond any actual chance of actual "entrainment" ... experiencing "unplanned" shared states of spontaneous intrigue ... above and beyond the circle / square / triangle / wave "freckle" type "experiments.
As if once we discover such possibilities .. "lets see how we can now manipulate such" ... as if modern man is forever locked into his own mechanistic and deterministic outlook even though he is beginning to experience things beyond such range.
Everything is up for exploitation ... this seems to be the recurring theme. The modern mind is such a misnomer in these regards. As if everything is 'but an experiment in control.
How is sharing reality in the waking state any different from sharing in the dream state? Learning / Sharing ... if you can't do it here .. you won't likely do it there.
Maybe as we wake up spiritually as a collective we will begin to realize that we have been sharing the dream state {all states} all along ... merely dreaming that we were not dreaming together
author of Lucid Dreaming:
author of Lucid Dreaming: Gateway to the Inner Self
http://www.lucidadvice.com
"....merely dreaming that we were not dreaming together."
A beautiful way of saying what we may one day realize.
Thanks.
hmm..
The thinning veil
While reading your book (and others on the subject) I’ve experienced a couple of lucid dreams, probably because of the subliminal influence of the material I was reading.
My take on these books, yours being the best, is that the veil between us is thinning very quickly. I’ve found in my own life as an average awakened person that I become intimately connected to new people much more quickly now. The ability I have to see past the veil hasn’t necessarily improved; I think it’s the veil itself that is thinning
The increasing frequency and intensity of lucid dreaming is but one demonstrable example of this phenomenon. Other examples could be the increase in frequency and comparisons between near death and out of body experiences, increases in the frequency of instances of synchronicities, extra sensory perception, remote viewing, etc. More importantly, there seems to be an increase in the number of “average” people having these extraordinary experiences.
The veil is thinning. I wonder to what end?author of Lucid Dreaming:
author of Lucid Dreaming: Gateway to the Inner Self
http://www.lucidadvice.com
I agree that greater and greater numbers are realizing that "something" is happening. Perhaps on some collective subconscious level, we know that a breakthrough must come to help us reach a new plateau of understanding.
I hope my book and others lead people to their own experiences and broader perceptions. In the "connected universe" we inhabit above and below the surface, those experiences ring out across the continents.
Not Evidence
author of Lucid Dreaming:
author of Lucid Dreaming: Gateway to the Inner Self
http://www.lucidadvice.com
In my book, I have a chapter on lucid dreaming and telepathy, and mutual lucid dreaming, where I go into much greater detail and write about experiments that talented lucid dreamers have tried (with various levels of success).
My hope is that science will investigate this seriously and thoughtfully, since lucid dreaming allows a new approach to searching out information and then waking with it. However, there has to be some discussion of anecdotes like these, in order to gain anyone's attention.
Regarding your proposed test case: most experienced lucid dreamers would tell you that it is hard to learn a long and complex set of numbers, letters, and then wake with it (assuming that they don't have a false awakening, etc.) In effect, you are learning it in one state (the lucid dreaming state) and have to memorize it there, and then try to wake, get oriented to waking and rouse yourself to write a long list of numbers and letters down.
In cases where people have tried this, it seems about 4 digits is all that can be recalled "in order" with any consistency.
To your other point, modulating the emotions when becoming lucid is one of the first lessons (of many) that all of us learn. Best wishes on your lucid journeys.
Person to Person?
Here's another one that harkens to the idea that we may or may not be in true contact with another person during our dream states. I'm sure that Sigmund Freud would have had a field day with this one. <br>
I am dreaming NON-lucidly, when something clues me in to the fact that I'm dreaming, and I thus attain lucidity. I am in bed with a woman with whom I've had a rather complicated relationship in the past, one that was intensely sensual and (for me at least) fundamentally erotic in nature, although we never had sex, made love, or even so much as kissed. A frustrating relationship to say the least. Anyway, I'm lucid, and now I find myself naked in bed with this woman, and I decide that lucid-dream sex is better than no sex at all. We are making love, ever more aroused, and the moment that I've longed for for so many years is about to come to pass. She's moaning in anticipation, and I'm ecstatic, a mere instant away sliding my throbbing penis inside her vagina, open and absolutely dripping with delectable juices, when she suddenly stops the proceedings. She says that I have no right to do this, that I have no right to have sex with her in my dream world if she has made it clear in the real world that this is simply not going to happen between us, that this would be a fundamental violation of her right to self-determination. <br>
I'm stunned of course. I wake up soon thereafter, or perhaps lose lucidity, I no longer recall which. The thing is that I can totally see her making such an argument, so at one level it seems as though I was actually dealing with her actual personality, rather than an objectified version of her that would merely serve as fodder for fulfilling a long-held fantasy. On the other hand, I know her well enough that my mind is probably easily capable of synthesizing a reasonably accurate mental projection of her. It makes me think back to the book entitled *You Are a Strange Loop*, in which the author argues that our mental models of people we know are actual and literal artifacts of those people, transpersonal memes that have been placed in our minds.<br>
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author of Lucid Dreaming:
author of Lucid Dreaming: Gateway to the Inner Self
http://www.lucidadvice.com
An interesting dream!
Lucid dreamers have wondered if their experience is simply a "mirror world" of mental models and expectation -- and that is why many experienced lucid dreamers have sought out unknown information (telepathic, clairvoyant, precognitive, etc) in order to settle this issue.
It's a complicated issue, much more than most realize, but there seems to be many solid accounts of success in these areas (and interesting failures too).
vivid dreaming
author of Lucid Dreaming:
author of Lucid Dreaming: Gateway to the Inner Self
http://www.lucidadvice.com
I have put up five successful techniques for achieving lucid dreams at www.dreaminglucid.com/fivetechniques.html -- I think that's right, I'm working on memory.
Naropa considered dream yoga, which relies on lucid dreaming, as one of the six paths to enlightenment. So, its investigation can be a deeply spiritual and illuminating path.
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Lucid Dreaming
Great post -- I have lucid dreams all the time and I have lately had some incredible spiritual experiences. I dream I am learning with a teacher to operate on the astral plane and work on abilities like levitation using pure thought. I once had a lucid dream where I was lying back on a yoga mat with a teacher instructing me how to use thought to levitate. I was able to float my self off the mat quite easily. More recently I have had experiences of being "one" with God as a giant pillar of light entered my consciousness from the crown chakra. And an even more recent dream I was standing on a jetty here at my local ocean and began levitating up using the light of God to guide my ascent. It was beautiful. I just found this new blog too which I think you all may be interested in: http://theconsciousconnection.wordpress.com/
Very similiar energy to this site -- good vibes, ya know. At this point its about all of us with similiar energy linking up and creating a wave of unstoppable consciousness that will literally transform our world completely into one of total harmony and peace.
Namaste my friends
author of Lucid Dreaming:
author of Lucid Dreaming: Gateway to the Inner Self
http://www.lucidadvice.com
AC, Thanks for sharing some of your lucid dream experiences. I recently heard from a friend that an article in a Chicago area magazine stated the Dalai Lama cited lucid dreams as bringing some of his most powerful spiritual experiences. When we are consciously aware in the dream state, extraordinary events can occur. I mention in my book about meditating while in a lucid dream. Almost instantaneously you reach a place of complete stillness and feelings of immense one-ness. In your next lucid dream, stop doing and decide to meditate. It's almost indescribable. Best wishes!shifting the world one mutual dream at a time
author of Lucid Dreaming:
author of Lucid Dreaming: Gateway to the Inner Self
http://www.lucidadvice.com
Hopefully articles like this and movies like Inception will power a shift in the worldview to explore this subject more deeply. When consciously aware in the dream, we have an ideal platform to explore the nature of mind, the subconscious, reality creation and more. Lucid dreaming remains our greatest hope for a revolutionary psychological tool to transform our understanding of the psyche and reality itself.