Lucid Dreaming and Mental Illness

I got the weirdest phone call last week. The editor of Gawker, A.J. Daulerio, contacted me, requesting information on lucid dreaming. (Lucid dreaming is knowing you're dreaming while firmly in the dreamstate). He said he's doing a new piece on lucid dreaming and Jared Loughner, who was sentenced yesterday with life in prison without parole for his deadly rampage in Tuscon, AZ in January 2011.
Turns out, Gawker had got a hold of some emails from Jared Loughner, and Daulerio has been going through them looking for new insights in the horrendous mass shooting that left six dead and wounded 14, including U.S. Representative Gabrielle Giffords. It got weird when Daulerio asked, "So, you talked to Jared, right?"
"Nope, never spoke with him," I replied.
"But you emailed with him, right?"
"No, never did. Uh...why?"
"Because we have an email from him to you."
That's when my nervous laughter began. Good to know that I laugh when I'm freaking out, it must be my Irish heritage. "Um, do you have a reply from me?" I asked, cringing.
No reply, he says... but maybe I have it?
I have no recollection so I tell him I'll get back to him. I got home and did a search for Loughner in my email database. Ping. With an increasingly icky feeling, I saw that not only had he emailed me, but I had responded.
Time stamp: February 2009. A full 23 months before the shooting.
I reread Loughner's email to me and instantly understood why I didn't remember it: it was very, very forgettable. By any reasonable standard, it was a polite inquiry about dreams, like the kind I get each and every day. No weirdness. No nonsensical queries. Even with the typo, it was a totally normal request, and I sent him a reply back a few days later and forgot about it.
Below you can read Loughner's email to me and my reply. I'm attaching the emails as screenshots, and have blurred out only our email addresses.
A couple of points about this exchange:
- The "knol" Loughner is referring to is an article on lucid dreaming I wrote for the now-defunct Google Knol project.
- But the history of lucid dreaming section of that knol is available here.
- In my response, I hesitate to recommend melatonin. That stuff is not candy, y'all. Supplements alone are not a healthy approach to lucid dreaming. And melatonin is a crappy supplement for lucid dreaming anyways.
- I invited Loughner to feel free to submit me some examples of his own lucid dreams, which he never did. Maybe that's a good thing.
- The lucid nightmare data set I mention in the email was presented in June of 2009 in Chicago at the annual conference for the International Association for the Study of Dreams. Ominously enough considering the present discussion, it was titled, "Lucid Nightmares:the Dark Side of Self-Awareness in Dreams."
Lucid Dreaming and Mental Illness
It's sobering to know that a man who later became a convicted mass-murderer was reading my blog and corresponding with me in 2009. As I suggested to the editor of Gawker, as an online educator, all I can do is hope that my work helps people.
It's especially sobering as I provide educational material about lucid dreaming, which will probably, once again, get some media buzz as being a "cause" to Loughner's descent into schizophrenia.
This correlation simply does not hold water.
As I discuss in this article on the supposed dangers of lucid dreaming, there's no evidence that lucid dreaming can bring on mental illness. From my dangers piece:
"In fact, lucid dreaming has recently been linked to resilience, the ability to maintain stability during and after traumatic events. Lucid dreaming is used clinically to help cope with nightmares, and is considered by many psychologists to promote psychological growth and encourage problem solving."
The real connection of mental illness and lucid dreaming: people who suffer with mental illness often also have arousal disorders, which can increase the likelihood of hallucinations at sleep onset, and may increase the chance to have a lucid dream due to increased awakenings throughout the night.
But millions of healthy people have lucid dreams every night. And millions more experience sleep onset hallucinations that seem extraordinarily vivid, which coincidentally is a central theme of Oliver Sack's new book Hallucinations.
Sacks' point: hallucinations are not just the mark of psychosis. More commonly, they are the mark of being sleep deprived, stressed, drugged or physically exhausted. People with narcolepsy and partial blindness and also experience hallucinations without losing their mind.
Anyhow, Loughner didn't become a murderer because he was a lucid dreamer, no more than he did because he smoked copious amounts of ganja. He was sick, he needed help, and the saddest part of this case is that the people in his community knew it but seemed powerless to help him.
The Secret Sufferers
One more thing: it's not weird to me that I corresponded with someone who turned out to be mentally ill. This probably happens more than I am aware - and that's true for all of us. Those suffering with mental illness routinely hide their illness, and most do it pretty well.
Now, my heart goes out to the survivors of the Tuscon tragedy, and to the shattered families who are picking up the pieces. But calling people suffering from schizophrenia "crazies" is not going to help. They are not "them." "They" are us. Bouts of clinical depression, schizophrenia and other personality disorders and psychoses can come and go. Many people heal, picking up where they left off - at least that's true for those who have community support. Others stabilize their condition, living out productive lives, working jobs in every sector of the economy, including higher education and government. Elyn Saks eloquently describes what this looks like from the inside in this TED talk.
Society, and especially media, has a way of othering those with sicknesses that we don't understand. Even though people with mental illness may commit more violent crime (under stressed conditions) than those without, this doesn't mean that all schizophrenics and other folks with personality disorders are murderers-to-be, waiting to blow up like a greasy stick of dynamite. This is another logical fallacy.
In fact, those with substance abuse problems (including alcoholics) are more likely to be violent than schizophrenics, but as a culture -- and perhaps it's part of human nature -- we are much more scared of the sensational and seemingly random acts of violence than the systematic violence that happens around us every day.
And it is far more likely that people with a serious mental illness will be the victim of violence, not the perp.
Our mental health facilities are less funded than they have been since the 1970s. This problem will continue to get worse until we start supporting the mental ill amongst us again.
The grain of truth: Lucid dreaming is powerful medicine
Under all the misplaced fear about the dark side of lucid dreaming, there is a small grain of truth: the practice of lucid dreaming can, over time, bring up disturbing imagery and challenging situations for the dreamer. It's not all fluffy bunnies and celebrity fantasies in the dreamworld. Sooner or later, you have to face your fears.
This is why I take lucid dreaming seriously: it's powerful medicine. It shakes up your ego defenses by design. As Leonard Cohen says, "There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
In my view, and the view of many lucid dreaming scholars, establishing a secure container is essential to a healthy lucid dreaming practice: by this I mean having a social support network, a healthy home life, and the time to go deeper into process. These are just a few of the prerequisites to success, and can also prevent the occurrence of nightmares and scary "false awakening" type dreams along the way.
These dreams won't make you schizophrenic, but without proper support, they can agitate your mental state and possibly re-strengthen the fears that came up in the dreams.
Unwanted lucid dreams is a real problem for some people too; in these cases, it's best to treat too many vivid and nightmarish dreams as a red flag, find ways to relax and ground yourself, and seek professional help if it's disrupting your life. The same advice goes for a run-away meditation practice or an out-of-control kundalini awakening: psychospiritual practices can be disruptive, so be prepared, and know where you can reach out for community support.
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History of mental health treatment
Thanks for providing such a good perspective on mental health issues.
You wrote: "Our mental health facilities are less funded than they have been since the 1970s. This problem will continue to get worse until we start supporting the mental ill amongst us again."
I agree. Here's a little history that many readers probably do not know.
I'm most familiar with Ohio's history of mental health institutions and in particular I studied the one in Athens Ohio where I attended college (there were five around the state).
The earliest attempts at treating mental health issues as medical problems go back to Dr. Charles Kirkbride (a quaker) and Frederick Law Olmstead, the famous landscape architect who designed Central Park. Before Kirkbride, people with severe illnesses either ended up in church almshouses (where they were treated as if they were possessed by demons), or prison (where they weren't treated at all).
Kirkbride designed the first institutions and realized that it was crucial to be able to differentiate between gradations of illness. The central administration towers of his designs were flanked by men's and women's wards on either side. As you went out from the center the patients got gradually more and more disturbed. It was recognized that people who were only mildly distressed could be made worse through contact with the most seriously ill. Early on they had little else available for treatment except to segregate, and that was probably the right place to start.
There was a belief around this time that cities were a primary cause of illness, and the initial treatment involved building these pastoral facilities where people would be given farm work to occupy themselves. This model was nice because the institutions became virtually self-sufficient and didn't need to rely on taxes except for staff salaries and a few things that couldn't be produced on site, like coal for power generation. The institution in Athens had chickens, pigs, cows, orchards, vineyards, greenhouses, tin shops, wood shops, etc. When an inmate died the other inmates cut down the trees, milled the lumber and made the caskets, dug the grave, and found the marker for it.
There were allegations that the really good workers were so valued that they would become permanent inmates, even if they were actually not so ill as to require hospitalization. If we go back to this model we have to prevent that from ever happening.
Eventually the deinstitutionalization movement gained traction and culminated in the discharge of most patients in the 1970s. There were two things that caused this: 1) There was a belief that separating the mentally ill from society would only increase their illness. There was a movement to outpatient treatment in the cases where it was feasible. 2) There was a precedent (set either by legislatures or courts, I'm not certain) that said the inmates had to be compensated for their labor. The institutions which had previously been nearly self-sufficient could no longer afford to operate on their existing budgets.
Some of the inmates took their own lives when told they were being discharged. While the movement to compensate them for their labor may have aimed to improve their lives, it had the opposite effect. It seems like the old model was not a bad one and we could design a system where we recognize that the patients are being compensated for their labor by the fruits of the labor itself. I.E. We don't pay them to produce their own food, but we also don't charge them to eat, like they would be charged in the outside world.
food for thought
fascinating history, thanks. stands to reason that any community -- with mentally ill or not -- would run better if the people there had access to satisfying work, enough rest, and social flexibility. I think this is also why most teens in the suburbs go anarchist -- they feel trapped in their roles and in their ability to make to change.
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street crazies
Back in the 70's I remember when they let the people out of the mental homes.I was living in Santa Cruz Calif. and a lot of these people ended up on the streets of Santa Cruz.I recall a local university poet who incidentally had been in a mental hospital himself that called Santa Cruz, "a huge out patient clinic" but Santa Cruz at that time was wall to wall students, surfers, and hippies, not to mention a lot of homeless street people, or street people that had a roof over their heads, street poets, freaks, weirdos, and let out mental patients.
Walking down the main street was a little like Haight Ashbury when I first walked down that phenomenal parade of love & peace flower power people.Anyway, I use to hang out on the down town main street, and groove and watch the local street crazies and or homeless people.I got to know who were the most crazy and who who were just normally crazy like me.And i use "crazy" here in the sense that I was exploring the fringes of consciousness from the point of view of a poor hippie that was trying to go to jr. collage that had left southern calif. to get away from that madness.As a teenager I was one of those kids that was swept up in the summer of love psychedelic wave.So I met a crazy surfer acidhead poet that became my mentor.
Days spent walking down the main drag I would get into watching the more crazy people standing on the sidewalk or on the curb.There was this one young woman with stringy long blonde hair what always wore a trench coat, she would stand on the curb and smoke cigarettes but she would stand almost motionless for very long moments staring into the street.I would observe her from the other side of the street, she was very pretty, but she looked like she had gone through a battery of electroshock or some other shocking trauma or both.I would see her on the corner of the curb day after day, wondering if she would ever notice me, one time she looked up at me and her smoldering eyes just shot a hole through my third eye, I was a little in love.Then she took her perpetual cigarette and tossed it into the street like she was blowing up the world with it.One day she was no longer there.
There were many such episodes like this in those days, people standing on the corner raving mumbo jumbo at the passerby.I was in the process of making myself into a poet, so I believed that there was some precious insights to see about these let out mental people, or ones that had not ended up in a mental institution yet, or just people that were not from stable backgrounds, or dysfunctional families.My life at this juncture entered one gigantic lucid dream.
what a snapshot
I spent 7 years in San Francisco and there's just a hint of that spirit alive now. I'm reminded that Spain Rodriguez just passed away the other day -- another of the mad poet/artists. He was close to my parents' social circle in the 70s -- apparently he used to go back to Buffalo NY in the winters because he couldn't stay inspired in sunny CA weather. the sleet, wind and snow took him closer to the edge, I guess.
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evidence
nice Loughneration
You know what spooked me? One of those last dreams of his that Gawker published - clearly a sleep paralysis dream -- but he seemed to have no knowledge of it, as the entry reads that he woke up, and felt held down, and was scared about the aliens. dude had a lot going on that we still really don't know about.
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melatonin and intestinal reactions ...
news to me
I found a naturalnews article with this info, thanks. I anticipate that our generation will see a neuroscience move beyond the brain -- and into the body. it's always surprising to me that the debate of so many consciousness issues is brain versus the supernatural. meanwhile, the belly churns and the heart knows.
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the many benefits of lucid dreaming
thanks
"that what cures also harms." If it didn't, maybe it wouldn't be worth trying.
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Lucidity and Life
we're one third lobodomized
I totally agree. our culture doesn't teach us about dreams. the lucky ones are the ones who survive to adulthood with imagination still intact. it's so easy to nod off into movies and other distractions -- those experiences the culture dreams for us. key is slowing down, cutting up the credit cards, and talking about your dreams with your loved ones. that's what I'm trying to do anyways!
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Mental illness!
I believed I would keep my
This is very risky illness