A Light from the Dark

I can appreciate that. However I think what Nassim is trying to get across does a better job of expressing spirtual notions of consciousness/infinite potentiality than "dark matter." His understanding of "the vacuum" as a highly structured geometry and source of infinite energy, the wellspring of all creation, does away with all the abstracted, mysterious dark matter theorizing.

If I recall his presentation correctly, this is where scientists are befuddled -- in not recognizing that the vacuum itself accounts for this incredible amount of "unseen" energy, and instead assuming there's something else "out there" they haven't developed the tech to calculate.

Food for thought...

"...either way aren't we trying to make concrete something that is beyond that kind of form? Even saying a "vacuum itself" seems to me like saying that there is a "thing" that you cannot see that creates things you can see."

Too true, too true.  

This is also the message (the one of there being something you can't see that makes the things you can) of virtually every mystical and religious tradition.  The parallel is quite striking, and I think speaks to the truth of the idea.  Something so univerally realized must have some kind of structural basis, it seems to me.  

For the other point (the one about trying to make concrete something that is beyond our conception of form), man could I not agree more.  In fact, I almost think it is too dangerous to attempt to talk about That-Something-That-Is-No-Thing, because no finite statement is ever going to do anything but hide the infinite from you, like the little Moon hiding the glory of the Sun purely by the power of perspective.

It can be a slippery slope down to religious or mythological fundamentalism. 

But I'm hoping the spiky shoes of knowledge of this fact, combined with an inspired humbleness, can stop us from sliding 'down'..and allow us to keep on moving 'up'.  =) 

I mean, the sign might not be the destination...but its sure nice to have something pointing the way there!  ^_~

"You must *be* the change you wish to see in the world." Mahatma Gandhi

Actually very close to Haramein's information.  He sees everything in existence (from the sub-atomic to the Galactic supercluster level) to be following the same basic fractal geometry:  A singularity (a nice way of saying something we can't explain but is there nonetheless) at the center of a vortex of matter, which appears to try to get as close as possible to the singularity itself...and yet, from that very center, new information/matter seems to arise.

One Haramein's major ideas, as I see it, is that Black Holes and White Holes (obviously, the opposite of a Black Hole) are more or less one and the same.  They share the same event horizon. 

There are the occasional Black Holes that are 'formed' when their resident Something gains too much mass (I assume, from interactions with other Somethings, from which it takes more mass than it gives (probably dealing with mass)), and is forced to slough it off, in the form of Supernovas and such. 

We say that the 'star died' and 'gave birth to a black hole', but it is entirely probable that this is a simplification. 

Perhaps, at the center of all matter, is a singularity that holds it all together.  This information is highly reinforced by Haramein's math and formulations.

There is an implicit otherworld of contraction to match this world of expansion, in his theories.  This 'realm of contraction' appears to lay at the center of every 'thing', just as you say. 

The similarities are even more informative than the differences....this tends to be the case, overall, in every situation.

"You must *be* the change you wish to see in the world." Mahatma Gandhi

I am still skeptical on all of this crop-circle business.  As I said, I don't believe it isn't true...and I don't believe it is, either.  It is Mystery to me, right now.  A superposition of being simultaneously true and false.  

Don't get me wrong:  I am all for getting a little extraterrestrial/dimensional help...we could certainly use it!

There is a definite phenomenon going on, and people with ropes and boards, I agree, falls short of explaining it all. 

However, you must acknowledge that the double-triangle, spirals, etc, have been a part of Sacred Geometry for a long time.  I agree with Hoagland and Haramein's idea that this is because they have a basis in the actual fundamental structure of the Universe itself; but the fact remains that all of this could have been thought up by people.  All of the information was already there, all one has to do is a bit of reading and study.  

Indeed, Haramein came up with much of his information alone, and became interested in crop-circles after they appeared to be agreeing with what he was already thinking of.

I'm all for persons studying crop-circles for potential messages, because at least some of them very likely are.   I always thought it was irrational that aliens would do such a thing...but I have to agree with Haramein's point (or, at least, that's where I first heard it) that they very likely are using that medium so that the message can be studied by all the world, instead of being locked in some vault a mile below the Pentagon.  And that is a definite point in their favor!

The reason this all makes me a bit nervous is that I am afraid too many people will just sit and watch the world go to Hell because they expect aliens, or whatnot, to come and save us. 

What if they don't?  What if the crop-circles are being created by malicious entities that want us to do that very thing?  Or what if they do come, and save us, but then become our Overlords as they make us their slaves in return for their help?

These are all worse-case scenarios, I know, but I think the point holds up:  We shouldn't rely on them.  We have no idea who they are, or of their true intentions.  When they have made themselves more plainly known, a more educated decision can be made.  But I believe caution should be our watchword. 

Not paranoia, not outright fear and avoidance, just caution.  Just like you would if you met a stranger in the wilderness.  Together, you can survive better.  So you team up...but the first week or so, you probably keep a careful eye on the new guy...he could just as easily take all of your stuff and leave you stranded and alone. You would take considerable time trying to get a good read on him. 

How much more so if the fate of our species, and perhaps planet, lies in the equation?

I mean, shoot, for all we know the elite have some kind of satellite that they can beam concentrated microwaves, or some other craziness, that makes all these shapes so that they can control us.  Very unlikely, but it can't be proven wrong at this point any more than the fact they are made by aliens can be proven right. 

We just don't know, and we need to acknowledge that fact, and act accordingly.

If we can find useful information, something that helps us help ourselves, in these circles, then we most certainly should do so, and be grateful for the information.

But I think we need to be very sure that isn't all we are doing.  

"You must *be* the change you wish to see in the world." Mahatma Gandhi

Red Collie,

In order to post a photo to this page along with your blog, you need to click the green "plus" (+) sign under the comment box.  I am really very intrigued by this photo that was sent to you.  Hope you can make it work!

"If it is natural for the immature to cause harm to others, then it is wrong to get angry with them, like resenting fire for burning."