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Life as Art: The Legacy of Lynn Margulis

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Richard Dawkins, formidable commander of both the Queen's English and a veritable worldwide army of devoted reductionists, once referred to the late Lynn Margulis as the "high priestess of symbiosis". Was this a warm colourful accolade or a shrewd slight? Given that Dawkins has spent decades steadfastly clinging to his beloved selfish gene paradigm and has even spoken of selfish cooperation when dealing with the symbiotic side of life that Margulis championed, I suspect his sentiment was not entirely benign. Although Dawkins openly admired Margulis for persevering with the theory that various cell organelles evolved through a process of endosymbiosis, and while aware, like any biologist, that the web of life evinces all manner of symbiotic relationships, he always seemed distinctly rattled by the social connotations that symbiosis invariably evokes. After all, unlike the notion of selfish genes, mutually beneficial cooperation sounds nice. Two or more organisms working together in an integrated and coherent way? Why, symbiosis has an almost ‘lovey-dovey' and ‘new-agey' air to it! Goddess forbid that we should draw any social lessons from such intimate biological arrangements! Best, then, to employ a cunning linguistic trick and make this embarrassingly alluring aspect of life disappear. Or at least shove it out of the way. Hence Dawkins use of the clumsy term ‘selfish cooperation' (as opposed to speaking of, say, emergent higher order selves, or even unconscious cooperation).

According to Dawkins, we might be impressed by two living systems working in some sort of mutually beneficial accord but in reality it is nothing more than a convoluted extension of selfishness. Don't be too moved by the astonishing sight of a pollen dusted humming bird feeding on a symbiotic nectar rich bloom! Don't let exotic symbiotic corals (that are a union of an animal and an alga) blow your mind! Don't gloat too long over a picture of a bobtail squid packed full of symbiotic bioluminescent bacteria! Move on people, this symbiosis business is all smoke and mirrors. Life is, at heart, no more than inert bits of digital DNA code that know nothing of cooperation and harmonious coexistence but only the competitive drive to replicate. If their phenotypic expression is involved in some exquisite symbiotic arrangement or another, then this is really beside the point.

Such was the kind of paradigmatic resistance that Margulis was up against. It is probably no coincidence that it was a woman who came to the fore promoting the significance of symbiosis in the evolution of life -- and not just the symbiotic origins of mitochondria and chloroplasts or the symbiosis evinced by corals or flowering plants and their pollinators, but even the emergence of new species through the process of symbiogenesis (this is still a contentious issue -- but examples continue to emerge). Is there something deeply feminine about cooperation? Is the drive for co-existence somehow more active in the female psyche than in the male psyche? In any case, legend tells us that Margulis had a really hard time convincing her academic male superiors that certain organelles within mammalian cells were once free living bacteria. It's one thing to note the symbiotic alliance of, say, cleaner fish with their bigger fish customers (who could easily gobble up the diminutive cleaners if they wanted), but when you realise that mitochondria (the energy engines of animals) and chloroplasts (the energy engines of plants) were once separate living micro-organisms that are now symbiotically woven inside animals and plants, symbiosis emerges as a kind of advanced technique learned by life, so sophisticated and subtle in deployment that we may be blind to it. If, however, we acknowledge the important role symbiosis has played in life's evolution, the way we perceive life begins to change. Life is no longer seen to be wholly red in tooth and claw -- but rather symbiotic in embrace and interchange (at least where possible).

Ever since the publication of Darwin's The Origin of Species, the general trend has been for biologists and evolutionists (traditionally men) to ‘big up' the role of competition, fighting and bloodshed within life's web. Dog eat dog. Predator and prey. The biological arms race. Survival of the fittest. War and attrition. Head-banging ruts. Leonine infanticide. Parasitic wasps. Army ants. Strangler figs. The battle for resources. In the wake of Margulis's work however, it is clear that relentless competition is not the sole theme of life. Far from it. Then again, we surely know this deep down. When we walk through a pristine ecosystem, we don't emerge traumatized and tearful at all the violence and aggravated competitiveness on display. True, competition is evident if our senses are keen. Maybe we observed some birds fighting over a territorial branch. Or the skeletal remains of a mouse eaten by some predator. Or two different species of ant in combat. Or maybe we were bitten by some insectile critter oblivious to our protestations. But such competition was not the whole of the picture was it? If we were really astute we would be aware that about three quarters of all the plant species in the forest had symbiotic fungi attached to their roots -- some so intimately entwined that the fungi actually penetrate the membrane of plant cells in order to swap precious living materials. Along with this invisible underground alliance, we would also be wise to the various bacteria that engage in recycling and thereby foster a kind of eco-systemic symbiosis that aids the forest's sustainability. We would be aware of all the insect species that pollinate the plants. We would also know that the gene complexes inside insects that foster nectar seeking only make sense in the context of the gene complexes inside plants that make nectar (and pollen) bearing flowers. We would likewise realise that the patches of lichen on any rocks we chanced across were composed of tightly cooperative amalgams of fungi and algae. We would be aware of the symbiotic cellulose dining gut bacteria at work inside any ruminants we chanced across (like deer). We might also divine the symbiotic exchange of gases between the plant kingdom and the animal kingdom. Symbiosis is everywhere. Regardless of its alluringly warm connotations, cooperation and synergistic networking are a major feature of life on Earth, a real kind of naturally selected wisdom that makes multicellular life as we know it possible.

The emotional connotations conveyed by certain words and concepts probably also explains why Gaia theory -- also avidly promoted by Margulis -- found such an icy reception when it first went mainstream back in 1979 after the publication of James Lovelock's first Gaia book. Gaia has obvious associations with mothers and mythical feminine beings. Gaia suggests nurturing and even maternal love. It is also captures an immense concept -- all of life on Earth along with the atmosphere, oceans and soil interconnected into one totality. How at odds with reductionism is such a concept? Exemplified by Dawkins's rhetoric, there has been an all out attempt by mainstream biology to reduce the artistry of life (and we can all admit that evolving life is exceedingly artistic in terms of organic creativity) to mindless bits and pieces. Like genes. Genes are small and readily quantifiable. Compare this to an entire cell whose contextual configuration will determine what happens within its bounded domain. Also consider large collections of cells and the extensive self-organizing structures that zillions of cells and zillions of genes are involved in making. Unlike immobile stretches of DNA, this vast flowing network of biological relationships is far harder to get one's head around. Gaia is not simply symbiosis as seen from space as Margulis asserted, but emergent holism with a vengeance. Indeed, symbiosis itself is emergent holism in action. Not everything can be understood by parts alone -- some phenomena require a broader vision to perceive. Life is a result of both bottom-up gene oriented processes and top-down contextual processes.

As it stands, if we describe the intricacies of life with terms like ‘dumb', ‘blind' and ‘selfish', then eyebrows tend not to raise. Yet these terms are pejorative. What, one wonders, is our obsession with pejorative terminology when describing the essence of life and its evolution? For the plain truth is that evolving life is the most astonishing process we know of. Organisms are such fabulous systems of self-generating bio-logic and organized complexity that hosts of biology students annually gain PhDs and increase their intelligence and insight by studying and documenting them. As for the genetic code (a code!), it is, as Watson and Crick rightly admitted, ingenious. Yet at the end of the day many influential scientists still insist on reducing the craftsmanship of life to selfish bits. We would never deconstruct an acclaimed classic painting or an acclaimed classic piece of music in this kind of way. Worse, if you try and describe life (or bio-logic) as a kind of natural technology or a natural intelligence (albeit unconscious), this is considered heresy of the highest order. And this is despite the fact that life has, over millions of years, learned the canny art of living and being-perhaps the most refined art of all (and despite also the fact that life has learned how to engineer the conscious human cortex with its ability, if it so wishes, to be stubbornly reductionistic!).

If Margulis's work is to fruit, I strongly believe that we have to acknowledge symbiosis as a key operating principle of life on Earth and, moreover, attempt to install that operating principle within our culture. This would be in line with the burgeoning biomimicry movement whose guiding premise is that we can learn from Nature and mimic life's long tested technology for our own ends. After all, our current way of life is beleaguering the health and integrity of the whole biosphere, so we would do well to maximize the lessons we learn from life. We hear talk of sustainability everywhere, from both government and industry. But we often forget that sustainability is not something we invented -- life got there first. Think about the fact that a rainforest can sustain itself for millions of years. How come it does not drown in its own waste, or suffer death by relentless internal conflicts, or exhaust its resources? How come a rainforest just keeps going and keeps clean, vibrant and biodiverse without any help from ecosystem managers or ecosystem stewards? Indeed, how did the entire web of life sustain itself for over 3.5 billion years? Clearly life must be doing something right. There must be, as intimated, operating principles of some specific kind. Chief among these is assuredly symbiosis for, as Margulis attested, various forms of symbiosis permeate the web of life. Which means that if seven billion of us wish to sustain our existence then we have no choice but to become an extension of life's already established modus operandi. Given that we are life -- or at last a recently evolved expression of life -- this means that we have to play by the same rules and the same symbiotic logic that much of life abides by. Yet human history abounds in overtly parasitic behaviour towards the biosphere (and even towards one another). We have pretty much run amok and done as we pleased, plundering every possible biospherical resource with no thought of a sustainable morrow, rather like belligerent children running amok in a sophisticated playground and clueless about the various smart life principles that underlie their daily existence.

As I have attempted to show in my book Darwin's Unfinished Business, life is an interconnected, ever-evolving, ever-learning ‘onestuff'. Conscious human intelligence is part of this smart onestuff and can take life to new levels of networked coherency not yet dreamed of. But we don't realize this yet -- we know not what we are and the true nature of that of which we are embedded parts. Until we do, until we realize fully that we are a conscious expansion of life on Earth's ancient acumen, we shall remain an immature species and fail to become symbiotically integrated with the rest of life's great web. We are not stewards or caretakers of the biosphere, but rather apprentices -- for we can learn from the wisdom already accumulated by the biosphere and embodied in its deeply interconnected ecosystems. The sooner we acknowledge symbiosis as a crucial operating principle of life and find ways of creating some kind of symbiotic culture, the sooner we can regenerate the bountiful organic paradise that we first encountered all those millennia ago and whose memory still lingers in the dim recesses of our minds. Like it or not, as individuals, as cultural citizens and as planetary beings, we have no choice but to become symbiotic every which way possible. Strength lies not simply in numbers but in their integration and cooperation. Gaia is both tough bitch and wise teacher as Margulis knew full well. Her legacy must continue to ramify.

 

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Someone water that fucking plant

Someone water that fucking plant, hummingbird needs nectar dammit!

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When it rains it pours. The deserts get soaked and the tombs and catacombs swell and contort, their walls climb with liana's and vines, sprouting multicoloured flowers; lady bugs and birds appear to coax the process along suckling nectar produced from the symbiotic interaction of living protein synsthesis mechanisms given to us by nature and time. The spiralling torsion melodies of the double helix as it weaves a tapestry of quantum harmony. What enigmatic electromagnetic wonders have we failed to contemplate amidst the grand drought of our souls. Microspatial geometric toradors of torrential potential motion made kinetic by the unseen energetics of anomalous fluxuation being our sphere of awareness and comprehension. Inside the mind of nature we find the blind watchmaker fractal entity without thought or self, a perpetual process of reanimation and decay for the sake of purposes we can only dream of understanding, wishing to inscribe eternal truths on the temples and effigy's to our formed likenesses of abstracted selves. Simplicity of design was the continual expression of intuitive principles set forth by nature and inherent in our creation and that of all life's processes. Star weather anomalies provide a provision for deep incision into the void cast vacant ship chasm for mystic journeymen without abode, have chose to drift in the abyss.

 

 

Seeking the strange sensation of unknown knowledge from the periphery of consciousness, the thoughts and images of cultures not yet created in times spiral emanation. The solidification in stone of a peoples; stealing from their souls the spirit of being endless nameless of the infinite oneness with the creation which bears them bodies and consciousness. Their in residing the treacherous self who takes it cast iron upon civilizations, to remake the perfected process into an abhorrent inferior replica. Made complacent to the persistent illusions instilled in us from birth, an unretrievable sense of collective innocence and truth lost to the behest of self informed power hungry post-simians. Elevated priest casts manipulate the masses to form the constructs of future enslavement 10,000 years past. The honourific jungle existence savanah alpine desert environments of lowland high mountain tundras reduced to chasms of black blood ancestral extraction and seaways filled with smokestacks, and drainage pipes spewing the run off and detritus of all the plastic crap fit to distract one for a minute or too much time wasted in synthetic spaces. Is a compulsive mind a prerequisite for civilizations mass hypnotic fantastic laser light disaster? Plants are the teachers, we are the product of symbiotic interaction between psychedelic tryptamine indole alkaloids; molecules found in the foods of our forebearers. These molecules evoked and initiated the evoluationary neuroplasticity of our archaic brains and through biochemical means transformed us from humble earth beings to the ravenous hordes or consumers and digital junkies we see all around us.

 

 

The golden age before the fall of our species. Humans had larger brains before farming was invented, smaller groups of peoples could survive and prosper better in jungle environment hunting and foraging then they could through mass propagation of the species due to farming. Indeed the anatomical and archaeological record indicates that human beings grew in numbers but diminished in quality. Fresh fruit with ideal potassium to sodium ratios, antioxidants, herbs and root plants with curative effects, fresh forest meat free from modern toxins. This is an ideal diet to survive and prosper. Tribes building mounds, placing stones to reflect the movements of the sun and stars, noting the patterns and regularity of things. Time emerged, religion, culture, civilization emerged here, back when the world was still dark at night and the sky was free of pollutant haze; they could envision the nature of all creation and behold its eternal granderous splendor. Language and abstraction of thought, dance and symbolic movement emergent with the use of psychedelic compounds found in heart of the jungle. 200,000 years ago in South Africa we came destined nascence into time through our realization of its existence. The appearance of our species as conscious and aware entities has long puzzled scientists and is indeed the basis of religions and what it is they attempt to explain. For some reason Gardens of Eden, good and evil being as such, we set upon a great duality of our minds and allowed our intuitions about nature and our symbiotic relationships to it to be concealed in a false process of religious dogmatic control machinations. Its unfortunate that hierarchical power structures emerged and implemented farming techniques after discovery of an easier method to maintain food security. Its important to understand that the first human settlements were not based around farming, they were based around an intuitive understanding of the place of human beings in nature, they were based around primitive religion and observances of the natural world. One of the oldest religious sites known is called Gobekli Tepe in Turkey. There is evidence that it was constructed before agriculture was discovered, later evidence shows signs of conflict and emergence of hierarchy due to agriculture.

 

 

When their is abundance it creates need to allocate and control, their is a myth about economics dealing with scarcity. Really it is about controlling a population through the excess produced. This translates to modern culture where our desires are manufactured for us and sold back to us by a constant stream of mental pollution in the form of televised advertisements and product placements, consumer zombies manufactured babies with barcodes to streamline their individuality into pre-packaged acceptable modes of operational fecundity. Cycling through our illusory lives searching for something, the airports, train stations and highways with offramps to nowhere beckon us towards simpler times hidden deep in our minds, the birthright of our existence from knowing first breathe is to be one with pulse of the earth. Somehow we are forced like human cattle by other spokesmonkey's into perpetuation the cycle of deviance from natural law, whilst we are punished for nonessential copyright infringements and parking tickets processed from butchered trees and printed with toxic inks that slowly give us cancer. The amount of mercury in the atmosphere far exceeds any natural level ever before known, its no wonder people are becoming more stupid as we go further down the spiral into the trap of all the authoritative structures which we choose to continue through half conscious involvement. Its just easier that way, to deny our true natures as living sentient beings of the earth and instead construct false identities of ego security to make us good products for consuming our preferred lifestyle program. Identities like Tom the barber, or Steve the compuer programmer and marketing genious founder of apple computers. Either way these are just names and labels, the true experience of being human is more and more cajoled into some stale form and fed back to us like plastic crap in candy and melamine in chinese baby formula. It makes good sense in our times to fuck over others and profit from it, because we are about self interest and not about symbiosis. We are still frightened from that initial shock of realization in the Garden of 'good' and 'evil' where coiled spiralling serpents evoking the patterns of our DNA were eskewed and labeled evil, made taboo, buried and forgotten to the sands of time. We can trust that the priests had the best in mind for us, thats why they hold the gold and what is in abundance, they are the vehicle to knowing the creator; who is of course most human like and is fearful of the plants from which the notion of his existence is created. Fear is good they figure, because it keeps us under control of the thoughts and ideas of other human beings who have been made ignorant by this duality of naturaloriginal knowledge. This ignorance is basic thinking in many religions, deny your human nature replace it with some belief system to suppress and eradicate personal impulse and individuality. Your value comes in conformance, god wants to butcher the earth. How else will the 'christ' return to wisk away the chosen billionaires for the rapture. As they drink champaign and laugh at the agonizing cries of the people they erected their hate forms onto, 'stupid fucking monkeys' they will shout with glee and cheer for the wrathful vehemence of the god to reign down holy terror onto we the cattle formed and fitted for their lives triumph. We ought poison the earth faster and kill it quicker, it is an evil thing after all, it should suffer for the temporary gain of a few, besides when we all die off there will be powerful symbols of our having been here, towers of glass and steel, a testament to our triumphs of linear engineering and abstract finance which helps fuck over our whole planet in a few hundred years. Really what else could you imagine being as terrific as an engineered apocalypse by psychotic billionaire executives and democratically elected dictators? Good thing I come from the numb generation of vacant digital consumers, all I want is more stimulation to distract me from my spiritual impoverishment for a few more minutes of time. Just a few more minutes of time.

 

they come of the earth~they come of the machines

 

 

symbiosis and competition

Evolution is not necessarily a zero-sum game. That is Margulis' contribution to our collective knowledge, and is not really debated by serious people any longer. The choice of religious terminology - "Gaia" theory - to encompass the still-hypothetical aspects of Margolis' legacy is - in my opinion - a confuser. The term has a lot of baggage linked to politics, feminism, and theology. The risk is that dogmatic opponents of symbiosis as an (the?) essential evolutionary principle will exploit these un-necessary links to discredit a giant of modern biology. Is it too late to un-link Margolis' brilliant scientific work from speculation in the social domains? After all, social Darwinism was all the rage in Victorian times, but has been fully discredited, without diminishing our respect for Darwin's scientific discoveries.

key operating principle

Much appreciated Simon. Your article made my day. The ramifications of Dawkin's selfish gene have been profound and negative. Flavius x speaks of social Darwinism being all the rage in Victorian times. To my mind social 'Dawkinism' has ruled the social and economic mind-set for some time. A new meme is imperative if we are not to destroy the life-ground on which we depend and are embedded. (See John McMurtry for a meta-analysis on what he calls 'money-based sequence' versus life. His prose is tortuous but it's worth persevering) The reductionist, mechanistic language and imagery that shapes our attitude towards nature does indeed seem to unfold from the male psyche. This self-adopted authority is misplaced in my opnion. Thankfully there are an increasing number of scientists espousing and articulating the necessary counterbalancing perspective. Sheldrake, for one as well as Stephen L. Talbott (http://netfuture.org/2011/Nov1011_183.html) He says "The claim that we find meaninglessness and randomness at the heart of evolution turns out to be as blatantly unjustified an invention as we might ever expect to see in science." When we women (and the anima within men) speak of Mother Earth, sacredness, nature spirit, even natural intelligence, we are dismissed by the scientific orthodoxy of today. Simon's concept of symbiosis as a crucial operating principle together with the revelations by Talbott of an emerging non-mechanistic language by current geneticists and micro-biologists is welcome and exciting. Somehow these new perspectives have to be integrated into our culture. 

@Idelle

Thank you for the wonderful link; this bears excerpting: "Most biologists, I suspect, will happily own up to the fact that they think of the organism as engaged in strikingly directed and meaningful activity. The lion stalking the gazelle, the bird building a nest, the larva spinning a cocoon, the rose flowering, the cell dividing and differentiating, the organism maintaining its own way of being amid the perturbations of its environment — they all reflect a kind of intentional pursuit we would never attribute to dust, rocks, ocean waves, or clouds. Biologists, that is, will acknowledge that, at molecular and higher levels, they see almost nothing but an effective employment of a thousand interwoven means to achieve a thousand interwoven ends — all in an almost incomprehensibly organized, coordinated, and integrated fashion expressing the striving of the organism as a whole. The organism, they will say, as it develops from embryo to adult — as it socializes, eats, plays, fights, heals its wounds, communicates, and reproduces — is the most concertedly purposeful entity we could possibly imagine. It does not merely exist in accord with the laws of physics and chemistry; rather, it is telling the meaningful story of its own life. And then they will take it all back." It is compelling but does it not beg the question: if not randomness, then what? This vacuum sucks in every weak-thinking, new-aging, incoherent yet oddly dogmatic seeker (witness rant by Liquid State Bionics) and leaves me perplexed. The burden of proof must be upon the one that would postulate a source and mechanism to provide for meaning, purpose, motivation... - no? Are we scientific materialists or do we default to mysticism? faith? worse yet: religion and its' hordes of fanatics? Is there a third way? PS - Mother Earth, Gaia, nature spirits: can we leave fairy tales and mythology out ofthe discussion? I respect your link but politely decline to descend into magical thinking.

Metaphors matter

Flavius X

Thankyou. I appreciate your response. You speak of a  'vacuum' which must be filled and hence "we default to mysticism, faith, worse yet ...  religion."  Perhaps the mechanistic paradigm currently prevailing offers merely half the picture rather than an unassailable truth. The populist spokespeople for this perspective - Dawkins and Dennett - present us with soulless conclusions such as
"The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but blind pitiful indifference. (Dawkins)   and
"An impersonal, unreflective, robotic, mindless little scrap of molecular machinery is the ultimate basis of all the agency, and hence meaning, and hence consciousness, in the universe" ( Dennett).   Even Dennett himself seems to have trouble with his own bleak conclusion - "There is something alien and vaguely repellent about the quasi-agency we discover at this level — all that purposive hustle and bustle, and yet there’s nobody home.”

We, as a species with, I would suggest, a  primal need for meaning and significance in and to our lives, are supposed to put up with such nihilism. This leaves me perplexed and I do indeed look for 'a third way' between Dawkinism and deism. Which is why Powell's ideas interest me so much.
I am sorry if some of my terminology offends you. Actually you misquoted me. I did not mention Gaia. However the Gaia hypothesis developed by both Lovelock and Margulis http://www.mountainman.com.au/gaia_lyn.html is hardly 'magical thinking'
Neither did I speak of nature spirits but of nature spirit. - the spirit of nature. Which is implicated in Powell's 'natural intelligence'.
Plants, he suggests "come to life more under the spell of psilocybin. They are no longer inert bits of greenery but rather they radiate organic intelligence, organic purpose, organic design, and organic sophistication " The word spirit of course has as many meanings as the words love and mother which brings me to the next word you have trouble with - Mother Earth. The word mother here is a literary device - a metaphor conveying the idea of an organic planet out of which we originate and have our being. It is true that Lovelock himself was disappointed in the new age interpretation of his hypothesis, and phrases such as Mother Earth and Tree-hugger are subject to considerable negative association.
As Powell says
"Gaia has obvious associations with mothers and mythical feminine beings. Gaia suggests nurturing and even maternal love. It is also captures an immense concept -- all of life on Earth along with the atmosphere, oceans and soil interconnected into one totality."
You presumably have read all of Simon Powell's article and yet  If I speak of the feminine and the anima you dismiss it as mythological thinking.

Well, who knows, if enough people join this disaffection with the Dawkin's meme, as seems likely, my reply to you - I respect your spirit of inquiry but politely decline to descend into mechanical thinking - may not sound so strange!

PS I have never been a feminist but the predominantly male arrogance and self-righteousness that Dawkins seems to generate in his followers  really riles me!

Dawkins, Dennett and other 'merelyists'...

Idelle - do we know one another? In any case, you will certainly like my new DUB book as alluded to in my article. I take on Dawkins and Dennett properly in a few of the chapters. There is a blind spot in current mainstream thinking, a sort of conceptual myopia. The natural intelligence paradigm lies in a difficult place between, on the one hand, the ID brigade, and, on the other side, hardcore merelyism. The core of the NI paradigm is, I reckon, pretty solid (that life is a natural technology, and that evolution is a naturaly intelligent learning process in which life is making more and more sense of the larger context in which it is embedded), whilst the broader picture (that Nature as a whole is likewise rife with intelligence in terms of its laws and forces) is yet to be fully fleshed out...

'hardcore merelyism'

Simon

No. Although we have a connection through LinkedIn.

How did I arrive at your writings? A fascination and amazement at the wonders and complexities of nature. Appalled by the 'hardcore merelyism' (love that!) on the one side and despairing of creationism on the other. Looked at Intelligent Design.  Then I discovered your concept and feel I've embarked on some kind intellectual cruise ship to sanity. (I know you like compliments!)

So I ordered and read/watched The Psilocybin Solution and Metanoia.  I have ordered Darwin's Unfinished Business but am impatient so have decided to get the Kindle version.

The conceptual myopia you speak of derives in part, I feel,  from the difficulty in accounting for natural phenomena in any other than standard , 'allowed' scientific terminology. Any deviation away from the mechanistic metaphor and we are accused of vitalism, new agism, or magical thinking.

To be an authentic scientist today one has, as you say, to reduce the artistry of life  to mindless bits and pieces. Still there is a trend _ apparently some microbiologists today are actually becoming quite poetic in their microbiology journals _ words like choreograph, orchestrated fugue, sublime performance and meiotic ballet.

How anyone can prefer "An impersonal, unreflective, robotic, mindless little scrap of molecular machinery" is beyond me.

I am thinking around and researching this and trying to articulate it into something worth publishing

Simon Elicits Great Commentary

@ Idelle: We seem to be in overall agreement except in nuance - specifically, as you have said "How anyone can prefer 'An impersonal, unreflective, robotic, mindless little scrap of molecular machinery" is beyond me." I don't feel the freedom to "prefer" one side or the other because preference is akin to wishful thinking. I qote my own review of Simon's prior book, The Psilocybin Solution: "Serious people who cannot fake religion yet also recognize the limits of science can experience despair..." I hope that there is Truth in a third way! @rajajuju: from "The Ego Tunnel" by Metzinger: THE WHO PROBLEM: WHAT IS THE ENTITY THAT HAS CONSCIOUS EXPERIENCE? Consciousness is always bound to an individual first-person perspective; this is part of what makes it so elusive. It is a subjective phenomenon. Someone has it. In a deep and indisputable way, your inner world truly is not just someone's inner world but your inner world—a private realm of experience that only you have direct access to. The conscious mind is not a public object—or such is the orthodox view, which may yet be overthrown by the Consciousness Revolution. In any event, the orthodox view holds that scientific research can be conducted only on objects exhibiting properties that are, at least in principle, observable to all of us. Green No. 24 is not. Neither is the distinct sensory quality of the scent of mixed amber and sandalwood, nor is your empathic experience of understanding the emotions of another human being when you see him in tears. Brain states, on the other hand, are observable. There are receptive fields for the various sensory stimuli. We know where emotional content originates, and we have good candidates for the seat of episodic memory in the brain, and so on. Conscious experience has content, too—phenomenal content— Its phenomenal content is its subjective character—how an experience privately and inwardly feels to you, what it is like to have it. But this particular content, it seems, is accessible only to a single person—you, the experiencing subject. And who is that? To form a successful theory of consciousness, we must match first-person phenomenal content to third-person brain content. We must somehow reconcile the inner perspective of the experiencing self with the outside perspective of science. And there will always be many of us who intuitively think this can never be done.

very interesting

Simon, i'm actually reading your new book and just laughed my ass off at the idea of the "bug" device being presented to artificial intelligence scientists as they baffled in awe and disbelief only to be duped since it was a real bug after all! That was brilliant and punctuates perfectly my feelings towards my own artificial intelligence teachers in ways i can't articulate.

I'm curious what you think about the theory regarding plant/human symbiosis in Tony Wright and Graham Gynns book left in the dark? I wrote a small blog about it here if you haven't looked into it yet. There is a new book project going on at the moment as well   http://www.evolver.net/user/gushtunkinflupped/blog/speceis_wide_neural_r...

 

thanks for the interesting article man

food for thought

Yes, I am aware of Tony Wright's work - but am not really that convinced. For sure diet must play a role in health - but I don't think modern man is 'insane' through a lack of flavinoids or whatever (I am sure studies must have been done looking at diet and psychology - as there are all manner of different cultural food-eating ways of life from fruitarians to vegans to hardcore carnivores etc, so there must be oodles of data out there). The crisis we face is a crisis in consciousness - we lack consciousness of ourselves and others. We are, as Gurdjieff noted, 'asleep' in as much as we operate at a low state of consciousness. Self-knowledge is key - and this is not taught in schools or colleges.