I am not frightened of passion, and so am not ashamed to say I am angry.

I am angry that the utter ruler/souldead idiots that take it upon themselves to destroy communities and the very fabric of life now 'allow' the return of LSD therapy for people already dying?

What am I supposed to do with this news?

Of course I am happy, but this is mixed with utter disgust that we can be dictated to by these idiots in power.

I am a subscribed to MAPS forums and have been discussing how the use of psychedelics is going to be used within the mental illness myth model. I feel this is very important subject. because if it is not addressed, for as we know the State can use LSD, etc for what it knows best, MINDCONTROL!

So it is very important not to now jump around because these fiends throw us some crumbs, but to demand total freedom over our own lives. It is they who are guilty. Generations and generations of oppression. And now very Nature is threatened. Inevitable!

Collect the Flour and Make Bread.

Seriously, "the government/military/etc" tried their hand at LSD mind control and truth serums way back yonder. You cannot stand in one place. flap your arms and hope to fly. Place one foot in front of the other.

This is good news because it is a step and one giant leap that spans 35 years.

It's crumbling, it's crumbling, so stop your mumbling.

LSD is now a drop in the ocean.

An ocean of many other ways.

Like anything else, this news is both frightening and encouraging, full of both possibilities and implications for further oppression. The institution of psychiatry is transparently in bed with the pharmacutical industry to make sure that those individuals going through the crises that arise when one realizes that one is not free are dealt with. The institutions will want to use LSD probably in much the same way that they did in San Francisco in the 60s - to control and stifle resistance. However, within the institution of psychiatry are individuals who often truly care about people. And the introduction of a new paradigm into the pharmaceutical model of pyschology/psychiatry is a welcome one. It is also intriguing to think of the psychic ways in which pure acid could be used by a patient to fight, or possibly even accept, integrate and transcend their cancer or illness. Of course, the paranoic part of me wonders just what institutionally-supplied "pure LSD" would be composed of...

Propaganda Anonymous Acid Dreams is a great book that illustrates how The CIA tried to use LSD as a brainwashing tool on possible spies.

This book also goes into how LSD was a horrible tool for brainwashing. That LSD can brainwash people seems like hogwash to me. This study appears to me to be the extension of the research that Stanislav Grof did in the 60's at Spring Grove Hospital in Maryland. Check any of his books, they are all amazing reads.

One book that speaks of his work with terminally ill cancer patients is called 'The Human Encounter with Death' On the idea that LSD is a man made substance seems like faulty logic to me as well.

What about the last meal you ate? Unless one eats a purely pure diet then that food is also 'man-made'

In fact very little today is totally 'Pure'.

From my own experiences with psychedelics (LSD, Mushrooms, Ayahuasca) All seem beneficial and healing to me when done in the right context.

There is of evidence in history of Ayahuasca trying to be used for 'Mind Control' purposes as well.

 

It is our human interaction with these substances that are just as important I think it would prove worthwhile if we remember that.

While aware of your skepticism and rationale for it, I too can't help but think this is incredible news. I have had only brief experiences with LSD and have come to the conclusion that it's not quite for me, but Gene Ohm summed it up nice by stating: "within the institution of psychiatry are individuals who often truly care about people. And the introduction of a new paradigm into the pharmaceutical model of pyschology/psychiatry is a welcome one." This is where the difference lies. Now scientists will be free to examine the role this drug might have on mankind without fearing the government being in control. Rather than using LSD to brainwash/control the people, I believe scientists working with these patients will discover the radical healing capabilities of this drug and how best it might be used to remove problems within the populace/individual's perspectives of the world. All bridges can be rebuilt.

For those of us that were there when the psychedelic wave hit, i wrote a poetic novel to tell the story of those days, i well say that again and again, because, back then it was a moment of transition, the tumult of the times, the music and the actual people that were part of the psychedelic counter culture.I had a lot of school buddies that i tripped with, most of those people became like most people, got back into the rat race, and did the consumer shuffle, and what ever happened to the early hipsters that wanted to live alternate life styles, and the communes that lasted for a brief moment.

 

 

Well, not all became 'yuppies'.

Remember this, that the 1960s, and early 1970s,  were a profound time where moderns met Indigenous forms of spirituality via its original meaning, inspired with entheogens.

Then as is natural for us humans, we want to commune. Be aware that the rulers fear this and so trip over themselves trying to divide and rule us? And that is what happened. The 'Hippies'/Freaks/Heads, or whatever you thought of yourself or them, suffered an onslaught of the evil we have ALL come to be aware of post 9/11....? Yeah?

It was then too!

That power structure, and it came down hard on people trying to create different ways of living.

You had theGovernment and their police oppression, and the media demonizing psychedelic experience, and the people who took them and were in favour of them. They carry on doing it.

Only recently I read an article anout the reemergence of psychedelic threapy but the article 'had ' to mention about the Charles Manson Family, which is straightaway a propaganda fear-trigger, right. But didn't Robert Anton Wilson write how Charles Manson, and his victims, mostly used solonaecous drugs, rather than psychedelics? The former are very toxic and true hallucinogens.

He also used Scientology mindcontrol techniques. All of this not mentioned, so readers of that vile event only connect psychedelics with what they did. That is the intention.

But yes, so all that came down on people who really had no --not then--understanding of the long Indigenous relationship with entheogens, and their long history of oppression by the same system persecuting them. And many turned to Eastern mysticism.

Also those times came to influence lots of positive things that are flowering now, like Ecoliteracy, Sustainable living, and Permaculture, etc etc etc!

In my personal experience, I was to take LSD when 15, and it changed my life. The experience, the mind manifestation, brought me back to Nature. because school, and the media and all the semantic plastic reality had dulled me to Nature. LSD blew all that away as only powerful psychedelics can.

 

Besides working as a waiter or waitress at least once in one's life, one ought to be able to experience LSD. I am glad to see the some light through the cracks. As far as the mind control stuff... well they are doing a pretty darn good job of that with the TV. Oddly enough, I live drink/drug free now, but wrote my masters thesis on the book of Job mostly on liquid. I can't help but think that isn't it pretty NORMAL to have anxiety if you have advanced stage cancer? I am not sure what they are trying to gain. "Hurry up and get through this psychotherapy so you can face death w/o fear"? Good stuff none the less. Fly or fall faster.

You people really love revealing your innards so easily...instantly worried about "control" and "them" using something against you because it's too good to be true, ready to jump at the shadow of a flower or a ray from the morning sun...

"EVERYTHING is Ominous and is ready to burn and manipulate you!!!!!" For "progressive" people you sure are doing a good job of demonstrating the extent of emotional-fear-trigger programming...

 

so wounded...

Control yourselves. Your emotions and expectations will have you destroy yourselfs either through frantic panic or paralysis...at this rate you shouldn't be worrying about any mysterious outside aggressors as much as you should be about yourselves!

 

following our Will and Wind, we may just go where no One's been

 

Spiral Out

Yes, I am very much like the guy in the middle of the room...I'm bored with the same responses and reactions of "the entire world is conspiring against us and all that is under the sun is untrustworthy" mentality...jumping at shadows isn't more productive than being "asleep", nor is it much different for that matter...

 

following our Will and Wind, we may just go where no One's been

 

Spiral Out

 

If LSD was a country I'd emigrate there.

Consensual reality is an interesting place for visiting, but I wouldn't want to live here forever.

The symbolism of LSD being legally available again is fantastic.

The point of LSD is not LSD. The point of LSD is the ideological struggle LSD came to symbolize for revealing it clearly at a serendipitous point in time (1943 - ).

Now we can more confidently build that practical landscape of crystal-pure rainbows of love which LSD offers glimpses into, yet is always here, conceiled only by our habits of disproportionally directed attention.

Thoughts and insights inspired by LSD are legal again. Our lovely core of mind is mainstream again. Thinking is free again.

Free the minds while gently holding on to the hearts. Go out and turn all peoples on to heart's disciples. And so on and on and on and on and on... to the country of eternal existence. Love Sun Dawning.

 

Laugh

Sing &

Dance

i just wanted to say, that the first time i dropped LSD, it was a very innocent adventurous fun loving experience, i did it with my friend and we shared that very special magical moment together.IT was perhaps the third time i took Owsley that the trip was guided by an older experienced person, that played music that was picked to bring us to a peak.At the peak i remember he put on this very beautiful harpsichord symphonic music, that just was so uplifting and like a window opened on another dimension, so crystalline clear so like sweet winds of forgiveness and pure consciousness.That was a late 60's moment.The next day Sg. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band came out. And it seemed like the energy of the album was a flash of the experience i had the day before.It was the promice that this held that LSD was supposed to be all about.That's why i had to write about it, i had to go back and remember what was supposed to be impossible to remember.

Ok well what exactly's this going to be used for. Clinical use for psychologically troubled pepople? siMMer

Well, I came upon an interview with this guy. A German man called Torsten Passie, who I have never ever heard of before:

"Torsten Passie is one of the very few scientists in the world who dare to work on the positive effects of hallucinogenic---: • 15 April 2006 • NewScientist.com news service • Susan Blackmore Torsten Passie is one of the very few scientists in the world who dare to work on the positive effects of hallucinogenic drugs. His research centres on the life-enhancing and therapeutic effects of the most powerful mind-altering drugs known to science, including hallucinogens, psychedelics (literally "mind-revealing" drugs) and entactogens (substances that induce a deep change in feelings). These are drugs that can turn your mind inside out, throwing everything into question. An LSD trip can be a terrifying whirlwind of horrific hallucinations, a delightful journey of discovery or even a mystical experience. But while the dangers of hallucinogens are well known, the stigma of their illegality makes it nearly impossible to discuss, let alone research, their positive potential. Could they help the dying, the depressed or the mentally ill? If so, argues Passie, perhaps we should treat them more like dangerous sports - acceptable if treated with caution - rather than ban them and push them underground. Susan Blackmore met him earlier this year at an occasion that could hardly have been more appropriate: a conference in Basel celebrating the 100th birthday of Albert Hofmann, discoverer of LSD.

Why are you willing to put your reputation on the line to work with hallucinogenic drugs?

I have long worked on altered states of consciousness, looking at their philosophical implications, but I'm also interested in temporarily inducing severely altered states. I want to explore these states and make scientific experiments on them, including those induced by using hallucinogens.

Isn't it almost impossible to get grants and licences to use these drugs?

Licences aren't really the problem. I have permission to work with cannabis, ketamine and psilocybin, and it was no big problem to get it, but then I've been in the field more than 20 years and I know all the literature. My head of department has done a lot of work with cannabis before. He did have problems with ethics committees, but now we've got permission for everything we want. If you know what you're doing, they'll give you permission. Grants, however, are nearly impossible to get. Why are you doing this work? My personal interest is because I worked for many years with Hanscarl Leuner, who did pioneering work with LSD in the 1960s and continued research on hallucinogen-assisted psychotherapy until the 1990s. My intention is to rediscover the therapeutic potential and applications of these substances.

What kind of patients can these drugs help?

Nearly all kinds of patients with neurotic and psychosomatic diseases can be helped, as shown by the 300 to 400 studies from the 1950s and 1960s. Especially appropriate may be patients with anxiety neuroses, depressive neuroses and post-traumatic stress disorder. How can these drugs help them? It seems that MDMA (ecstasy) and the entactogens can detraumatise people from experiences that have left them in states of heavy tension and friction. To achieve this you first have to prepare a safe and stable therapeutic relationship with the patient so as to have a safe inner setting, and you need a safe external setting too. We found that these ways of experiencing oneself, others and the world are very productive and can promote what is essentially a self-healing process. People can confront their memories in a state not limited by neurotic fear and inner defences - they can really open up. It seems they can mainly self-organise the processing of their experiences to promote their own healing. They can see that it's safe, and that it's nice to be open again. After that they may not go back into a closed state and you can work psychotherapeutically with them in a much more effective way.

You mean you provide the setting, the drug and the support and they do it themselves?

That's right. It activates their self-healing power. This may be problematic for therapists because they are kind of useless then. This is something that people don't realise: that normally therapists are trying to influence somebody in some way. Here you don't have to. You only have to furnish a room nicely, do some background work, and then the process happens without danger and with great potential for a lot of people. The earlier researchers found that you should do therapy in mixed groups, treating people with different kinds of neurosis together. In a scientific design you would use people who all have the same kind of neurosis, but that's counterproductive for therapy. We would like to give them MDMA first because it's easier to handle and then give them LSD a few times.

Are you also interested in how healthy people use drugs for recreation?

I am, because from these people we may learn how you can misuse the drugs or use them in an appropriate manner. When I worked with Hanscarl Leuner he was allowed to do therapy only on severe neurotics who were resistant to treatment, because of all the panic and phobia surrounding LSD in those days. We found that these people can profit from hallucinogens, no question, but the more healthy the people are, the more they can profit, because healthy people have a greater capacity for self-healing.

But why, if these drugs have such great healing potential, aren't they available to use?

There are two reasons. Firstly, any patents on them ran out long ago. No pharmaceutical company will finance a study if it gets nothing out of it. This is a major reason why we can't get money for our studies and especially for clinical studies, which are quite expensive. The second reason is that pharmaceutical companies are not interested in things that patients have to take only once. They're more interested in something like a hair-growing ingredient that people have to take every day and if they don't take it their hair will fall out again. That's what they're looking for. With a depressed patient, the physician may say, "Take this SSRI [selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor] anti-depressant medication and you will be better." Sure, they will be a little better, but they have to take a pill twice a day.

You mean you could heal them once and for all?

As potential therapists, we would give them MDMA perhaps three times and LSD twice. Who could earn money out of it? From five doses? And after psychedelic therapy, the patient may be much better or completely healed, rather than showing slightly improved symptoms and having to take the medication for years. So in a way the pharmaceutical company is our enemy. Are there many others working in this field? I'm really on my own. This is the real problem, that there are so few people who are seriously scientifically interested. It's astonishing because a lot of people try to get information out of you, especially journalists, but they usually only want to have an impression of a special facet of the topic. They don't want to take on the therapeutic applications, or the religious and spiritual potential of these drugs. So normally I don't give interviews and I don't have that many students.

Profile Torsten Passie is assistant professor for consciousness studies at Hanover Medical School, Germany. He has done extensive research on the use of hallucinogenic drugs, altered states of consciousness and shamanic practices in psychotherapy and healing. Susan Blackmore will be talking about the dangers and benefits of LSD at Unhooked Thinking, an international conference on the nature of addiction at the Assembly Rooms in Bath, UK, 19-21 April (www.unhookedthinking.com). Copyright New Scientist Interview: Psychedelic healing http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:zFwilYGxYWsJ:www.beckleyfoundation.or...

Finally some good news! 12 cups full....a cosmic number me thinks.

 In Storming Heaven: LSD and the American Dream, author Jay Stevens states that it was Owsley's contention that "the Divine Force had given mankind LSD to counteract the discovery of nuclear fission."

The dropping of LSD into a mind can release a lot of energy too. Best wishes to all involved in this!

 I love the link to the pics, it looks like the good doctor has a  buzz going just holding the box!

Cheers ; )

"Techqua Ikachi"