Comprehensive 9/11 Resource and Research List

I've done tons of research on this subject! It's extremely important *not* to automatically jump to the "9/11 was an inside job" slogan. It would be naive to do so, as the "truth" seems a bit more nuanced than that. As Daniel said on AAR's Clout show, "The evidence is confusing." This is the proper tack to take: There's definite evidence that elements of the military-industrial-financial complex, as well as well-placed/high-level rogue elements within the U.S. *and other* governments were involved to a degree (Israel, Pakistan, etc.). There's evidence that elements within the private sector, both domestic & multi-national, were also involved. And, there's even evidence that terrorism is involved. This is why I say that 9/11 was an "I/O job" rather than an "inside job." I don't want to see the truther mantras spreading to this site. If I want them I'll go to 9/11 Blogger or something. The "truth" movement has been perpetually plagued with failure to offer an alternative working narrative. Furthermore, there's a lot of disinfo out there about "space rays," holograms, pods, etc. In the confusion, people resort to "let it happen" or "made it happen," because it simplifies things. If simplification is a necessity, then I offer this to the uninitiated: "helped it happen." Most of the seasoned researchers have settled around this idea, since 9/11 is more aptly described a perfect mess than a perfect conspiracy. WTC 7 is a good place to start one's research. PS - DP did a nice job on Clout, adding the soft touch that the whole debate really needs! It was surprising to hear from him on this topic.

With relief, with humiliation, with terror, he understood that he too was a mere appearance, dreamt by another. - Jorge Luis Borges, The Circular Ruins

thanks to reality sandwich and charles for posting these resources. 911 truth finally seems to be entering the main stream, and this will definitely help spread the word. it's hard to deny at this point...

to johnnymonicker,

yes, there is a very aggressive reinvestigation campaign headed by 911truth.  have you all heard about the hunger strike of blair gabsby for 911 truth? check it out www.911truth.org

9/11 truth was an eye-opener for me, I think for the most part because the evidence (of controlled demolition especially) is so convincing, it forces you to acknowledge a reality very different from the one you know.

We all are partially deluded (some more than others), and those of us who maintain they are not are the most deluded of all. I think the American Public needs a smack in the face, to bring us out of our glib, decadent, binging. 9/11 Truth is already doing this for a lot of people.

If Pinchbeck is correct that a new investigation would be futile because it would require a vast secret government (which isn't necessarily true), then we are better off doing it anyway, forcing the government to play it's hand. The sooner that we confront this situation, and stop lying to ourselves, the better off we will be. The jews who rebelled in the Warsaw Ghetto had a higher rate of survival.

However if Pinchbeck is incorrect (partially), and there are factions warring secretly in our own government over this, and it it more the likely case that any inside job was perpetrated by a small group of the most criminal elements in this government, then the good people (or maybe just self-interested, or whatever) working in public positions and the military desperately need the help of the public- who are not restricted by orders and need-to-know. We are dealing with a power that cannot thrive in the open, and there are many potentially good things that can happen if the public was fully aware of the facts, or even aware that the government refuses to confront the facts. I think it's our best chance of seeing the Bush/Cheneys and other minions put to trial. And I would urge any New Yorkers to support the 9/11 truth ballot initiative going on right now.

9/11 Truth, and the efforts of Alex Jones and the Patriot movement who are largely responsible for it coming into the mainstream, is intimately connected to what this website is trying to accomplish. When I woke up to 9/11 I also woke up to the real world of banking and monetary reform, which I now believe is an even more essential issue than 9/11 Truth. It was completely outside my consciousness that the simple act of using fiat currency can silently enslave me in ways I can't even imagine. Now I'm sickened at the open fraud thats been eating away at us for the past century. It also makes me extremely hopeful because I know how much we've been held back. And for anyone who believes that the present economic crisis and specter of the destruction of the dollar is a dying gasp of our secret Nazi government, you need to consider the alternate possibility that it is also a "controlled demolition" in the banking world, as it has been decided by the world banking cartel that our currency has served it's usefulness and now needs to be replaced (preferably by the "Amero").

This links up with the memes circulating on this website, whether we know it or not. Everyone has a feeling deep down that our problems are related to money. It's like we are all parts of one big brain, where the accurate perception of reality doesn't exist in any one element (or individual) but rather in the connection between those elements and the play involved in their different assessments of reality. Even our delusions might serve a function in that larger brain. And the more we learn to be merely connections in that brain, rather than sole egos, the more we might be correct even while simultaneously being wrong.

In any case, we are already in this sh*triver too deep, and we are not going to cross to the other side without swimming through a lot of sh*t.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that the people who have power to print money, start wars with synthetic terror events, and cause depressions won't give it up without exercising that power first, and who knows what else. But perhaps if we spread the meme of monetary reform far and wide, we can be ready and waiting with novel barter and currency systems, which any depression or crisis in fiat currency is fertile ground for. A lot of people are going to get hurt one way or another, and the sooner we remove this tick, the faster we start to recover.

I posted about this awhile back on here, but it deserves recounting...

My favorite piece of "evidence" for gov't complicity in 9/11 comes from an unusual source: Alex Grey. Look closely at his 1989 painting "Gaia" -- it currently hangs in the Chapel of Sacred Mirrors in NYC, and was featured in the liner notes of the Beastie Boys' Ill Communication. The piece portrays the spirit of the earth as a broad-trunked tree, sharply dividing scenes of idyllic natural paradise on the left, and industrial hell-on-earth on the right.

Depicted in the lower right-hand scene, in a smog-filled sky, are two jet airplanes flying above the twin towers of the World Trade Center. Although it is hard to make out unless viewing the piece in person, standing abreast the tree in this scene is a business suited politician-type bearing more than a slight resemblance to GWB, with his arm around the shoulders of a brown-skinnned, bearded, machine-gun-toting terrorist. Alongside them, overseeing the fiery destruction of the planet, is a man-sized phallus with insectile pincers -- perhaps we can call him "Dick."

Amazingly, Grey didn't make the connection between this prophetic painting and 9/11 until an observant fan contacted him about it by email. As a truly visionary artist, Grey "downloads" the imagery of his work from a higher source -- in my mind, this is confirmation on a divine level. If this intrigues, I recommend a pilgrimage to CoSM to view it up-close...  

wonderful ST!! I've not heard this before - a nice refreshment after all this...

 "You've never done anything for humanity, Daniel."

"..his books have helped lots of people in different ways. But that was a passive result of his writing them."

 OUCH CHARLES!

In some cases it's negative to be positive, in other cases it's positive to be negative. For instance, if you have a health problem, maybe a little pain in your liver or something, but you don't really want to think about it. It would be too "negative". Why live your life in fear about every little ache and pain? I could affix some kind of grotesque end to that story of course. Or maybe it's just a little muscle spasm and no problem. The point there is not that there is one right answer (what you should do), but rather a continuum in which one side leans towards right and the other towards a wrong.

In any case, I have the tendency to view those who dwell incessantly on the "positive"  (whatever that is) sort of like animals that have a biological glich so they feel no pain. Now I hate pain as much as the next guy, but I'm still thankful for it (mostly) and wouldn't have my body be any other way. Same goes for fear. Fear is the anticipation of a future negative outcome. If that outcome turns out to be real, and fear averts it or softens the blow, then fear becomes a willing towards positivity and turns out to be hope. Conversely, hope can be fear.

Furthermore, Love is the mother of fear. I think that the greater part of the fears I have are for those I love, especially the woman I love. That might include the occasional pang of jealousy, but mostly just concerns for her in general. Sometimes I even think that I can learn from my fears about what exactly it is that I love. So to say that life is a choice between fear and love, to me, just makes no sense. I don't see fear and love as two American Gladiators duking it out. Yet at the same time it makes a lot of sense for some other reason. And I don't really have an answer for that, but my guess is that more complexities are involved.

Yeah, COMPLEX. When you read that word, does it make you uncomfortable? I know it makes me uncomfortable. Do you want to make make it... SIMPLE? Like a battle between two universal "Forces"? Like in that movie? Don't you just want the ANSWER? So you feel like you're in CONTROL? I just want it so bad that I get those dirty feelings (keeping it clean for the kiddies). Wonder why.

But at the risk of being viewed as dwelling on the negative, let me share with everyone that one thing, that one answer, that one guiding light I have found.

(drumroll)

TRUTH.

Yes indeed, I find that rather than dwelling on the negative or positive outcomes of events, it serves me better to focus my energies on truth as a virtue no matter how negative it makes me feel. And I think for most people the truth train stops in Negativeland.  

That being said, don't think I'm stupid enough to say I know the TRUTH about WHAT TRUTH IS. All I can say is that in my mind TRUTH is highly connected to DOUBT, the way I think of my grandmother whenever I smell lasagna. The whole 9/11 thing has a lot to do with that...

Thanks for reading my post this far. I really do appreciate it. Really. But please don't take my advice. I realize I'm stupid, pathetic, cretinous, lazy as well, but I want to learn. I even realize that my petty sarcasm is just a vain attempt to veil my animalistic power cravings. Maybe it's because I have so much negativity poisoning me that my consciousness is being held back like in that game MYST I used to play where I just wandered around this island and never found squat. And then in 2012 when Jesus comes back, I'll still be stuck at the lower level and then I'll be royally fracked over and over again for eternity in a lake of fire.

...I jest. No really, I have a great deal of respect for all you guys here, Pinchbeck and Shaw especially. Any guy that's been to jail or worse fighting Oppression gets my salute, even if you believe in the tooth fairy, and in my view that's the ultimate act of love. I also think that whether or not Pinchbeck has any street cred, he's perfectly justified in thinking up solutions, and all power to the guy, and for what its worth I love the whole Network based solution he's pushing. If people want to put all their trust in him or anyone else, then they will get what they deserve sooner or later... or on the brighter side, they will just be learning the hard way. To say he shouldn't talk about nonviolence because he hasn't really been there, makes the underlying assumption that we really should be listening to someone with credentials. An expert. Because people are too impressionable and unruly to come to their own decisions, and it's dangerous to have novices leading them. Really, I think we're still taking baby steps regarding the whole leaderless movement thing. It means that not only do leaders not have to be leaders, everyone has to be a leader including the leaders. If that doesn't make sense, then you're on the right track in my opinion.

Anyway, I think I've said enough and I'm signing off. Again thanks for reading.

Mossyfern

Owing to my personal history I hold several differing perspectives simultaneously. Applied to the events of 9/11, this leads in several directions, as there is a necessary conflict in my views on the nature of facts.

There are journalistic facts in the sense used by C.P. Scott when he wrote "comment is free but facts are sacred" in a 1921 essay celebrating the centenary issue of The Manchester Guardian. Regarding 9/11, these are in very short supply, for a number of reasons:

o Fear and intimidation;

o Confusion -- 9/11 was a huge and complex mass event involving thousands of people and a number of huge bureaucracies;

o The massive classification of documents;

o An emotional inability to consider explanations at variance with official explanations;

o A potential reluctance to admit to being an accomplice or accessory after the fact to murder coupled with the related and nearly insurmountable difficulties associated with interviewing actual participants; and

o The changing nature of media and reporting in this Google era such that adequate resources cannot be deployed even as former "quality" newspapers and other news sources parrot accepted explanations.

We are frequently left with nearly impossible-to- verify Internet rumors even as anyone who bothers to wade through endless websites and watch on-line videos can't help but notice incongruities, problems, and odd loose ends associated with the official explanations.

Internet rumors aren't facts in the sense that C.P. Scott used the word, but something is very obviously screwy with the official explanations.

Meanwhile the events of 9/11 are still used to underpin present heinous policies while endless news sources treat the official explanations as factual, those explanations having become thoroughly embedded in the historical narrative.

Scott was no metaphysician; he was long dead before, say, Jane Robert's Seth began dictating his books on the nature of reality, and was not an enthusiast of philosophical thought focusing on the relationship between so called objective reality and the subjective self. He was a newspaperman, and anything touching remotely on the occult or suggesting that reality is not entirely revealed by the physical senses -- beyond his Unitarian religious beliefs -- contradicted his worldview.

Were he alive today, he would likely be disgusted by both the behavior and actions of modern political, industrial, and military leaders and the lack of serious investigations into the events of 9/11.

What's missing are the facts obtained by documents and carefully corroborated information acquired by interviewing participants, this presented in a forceful way by credible media entities.

A Seth enthusiast knows there is no single future (see Exercise 2. at Doorways ).

It's possible to attune to probable futures in which what actually happened on 9/11 is revealed and thoroughly explored in media presentations entitled "How They Did it" without becoming too deeply entangled in the fact that multiple versions of past events exist as surely as multiple future realities, personal and mass.

The exact physical pathways to such futures are unknown -- attuning to them exclusively would, as upthread posters have noted, require someone to be overly in touch with the darker energies of those ego-bound throwback personalities associated with the 9/11 event for comfort.

A range of futures result, from 9/11 remaining a perpetual mystery to particularly nasty versions (in terms of the nature of those responsible and their utter hypocrisy) being revealed in short order or over great lengths of time.

Of course a swift revelation might be disastrous for a country just beginning to feel the effects of its long dependence on oil even as many of it citizens have grown thoroughly disgusted with policies of aggressive militarism, but no country that professes to live by the rule of law can abide mass murder and look the other way for long, particularly when, at a minimum, some degree of collusion of unknown members of its own government looks increasingly plausible.

Waiting for journalistic facts to appear in our primary reality is one approach, supplemented by periodic focusing on this as a desired outcome.

In the meantime, there is a particular discarnate personality very well suited for exploring "what actually happened" (again within the limits of multiple versions of past events). Successfully interacting with and translating the thoughts of this personality would not add one iota of journalistic fact to the mess, particularly as so many hold to materialistic beliefs and find the mere mention of such possibilities completely suspect and suitable for derision.

Even so, such communications might be quietly used to supplement continuing amateur investigations that could, eventually, lead to more creditable and professional work.

The personality is John O'Neill, in life an FBI official focused on Al Queda who retired in August, 2001, and died on 9/11 on the second day of his new job as head of security for the WTC. He has both the skills and the desire to fathom "what actually happened" while no longer being encumbered with the limitations of physical embodiment.

Regards

Bill I.

http://www.realitytest.com