The Capital is Personal

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I was talking on the phone to a friend about the plight of unhappily single women in New York. "They just don't give themselves the right value in the dating market," I said. "Hey, we were just talking about the banking crisis. Look how these capitalist phrases have taken over our language!" he replied. "You're right. I shouldn't use these bankrupt expressions," I agreed. We both laughed when we realized I had inadvertently repeated my mistake.

As my friend had pointed out, capitalism has colonized our words, our identities, and our minds. The habit of thinking of people, ideas, and relationships as commodities has been nearly pervasive. We are collectively guilty of extreme reification -- treating the abstraction of money as if it were the only real thing. We have constructed an idol out of our own adornments -- pulling our very teeth to do it -- and have subjected our innate divinity to the inert form.

And then, in late 2008, American-style free market capitalism, the single dominant human system of the last century or so, underwent a bloodless, swift, and absolute coup. The king is dead. The golden calf has been melted back down into dross. This event would be even harder to believe if the exact same thing hadn't happened to capitalism's doppelganger, totalitarian socialism, just a decade before. This time, we haven't toppled any walls or statues, but a set of powerful illusions has fallen nevertheless. The crisis will take time to be fully absorbed into our culture.

What illusions sustained capitalism, and what has been the consequence? Our democratically elected leaders, with the collaboration of our thousands of business oligarchs and wealthy financiers, have refused to put our country's vast resources to use to feed the hungry, lift up the destitute, provide care to the sick, or protect the planet from degradation, even now that it's widely acknowledged that the future of the species is at stake. The argument was always that "the market," with its unique capacity to produce "economic growth," was too sacrosanct to be subject to the "distortions" of government intervention whether in the form of taxes or regulation. No human need or desire was deemed as important as the interests of the market, not the survival of innocent children and not the health of the air we breathe.

But when the market itself was in danger of collapse, Congress acted within days. The costs imposed without referendum on the public to attempt to salvage our financial institutions dwarfs the size of our entire economy. This desperate rescue operation exposed market fundamentalism as just another form of false, extremist religion. When banks, financial institutions, and corporations failed, the power to respond rested with the United States government. Clearly, then, government intervention is not detrimental to the market. Government intervention makes the market possible.

Anarchist anthropologist David Graeber writes about the history of systems of value within different cultures. In the book Toward an Anthropological Theory of Value, he summarizes the views of Hungarian economist Karl Polanyi thus:

"The state and its coercive powers have everything to do with the creation of what we now know as ‘the market' - based as it is on institutions such as private property, national currencies, legal contracts, credit markets...'Market behavior' would be impossible without police."

Legal scholar Cass Sunstein makes a related point in his book The Second Bill of Rights: FDR's Unfinished Revolution and Why We Need It More Than Ever. He points out that our Constitution happens to guarantee the right to the abstraction of private property, but not the right to the necessities of life such as food, clothing or shelter. That means that the police are empowered to cast out someone who is hiding from the rain, if the roof they are huddling under happens to technically "belong" to someone else. The choice to defend one principle over the other is not always in line with our acknowledged moral values, as in the case of the starving man who steals a loaf of bread. (In the time of the New Deal, Sunstein argues, FDR identified "Freedom from Want" as a new American right, and created new social institutions to try to protect it, but failed to enshrine it in the Constitution-thus, an unfinished revolution.)

The relationship between markets and government coercion may be felt most keenly when it comes to the institution of debt. Graeber points out the inextricable historical link between debt, violence, and enslavement. In eighth-century Germanic law, the concept of "weregild" replaced the older, Biblical idea of "an eye for an eye." Weregild translates as man (were, as in werewolf) + gold (gild). Weregild was the substitution of a fixed sum of money or some other substance of value to compensate for a death, whether murder or accidental. On the one hand, the payment of blood money was a moral advance because it stopped a cycle of violence. On the other hand, it was a step down the path of reducing a human life to a sum of money and an exchange delineated and enforced by courts and governments. Besides blood debts, some of the earliest debts were also calculated as terms of indentured servitude. And everywhere and always debt has tended to be wielded by the rich and powerful over the poor and powerless, from the "company store" at a mining camp on America's frontier, to the payday lending and pawnshops that fill low-income neighborhoods today, to the massive debts imposed as "aid" on the world's poorest countries by the International Monetary Fund.

It's no coincidence that the enormous increase in debt, the most coercive and oppressive of market institutions, caused this financial crisis. The amount of consumer debt doubled over the last decade between 1997 and 2007. For those who wanted to participate in the so-called American dream-a house, a car, a college education for one's children, and an ever-increasing array of material comforts-the ubiquitous result was a pile of student loan, credit card, and mortgage debt. This house of cards collapsed when people who had higher and higher debt and flat incomes could no longer keep up the payments.

Indebted people tend to be submissive and restricted in their choices, not strong and free citizens. Soon after the financial crisis, Graeber wrote: "What is debt, after all, but imaginary money whose value can only be realized in the future: future profits, the proceeds of the exploitation of workers not yet born. Finance capital in turn is the buying and selling of these imaginary future profits... Freedom has become the right to share in the proceeds of one's own permanent enslavement."

But I believe freedom is not so fragile or limited as all that. The state, like the market, is nothing more than a human creation. And as human creations, they ought to be within our collective power to transform them. The bursting of the debt bubble has provided a once-in-a-lifetime opening to begin right now.

Consider the recent interventions by the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department. While the government has taken action, the government is not the final authority. By what mechanism is the US government able to set interest rates ands control the money supply? Because it issues Treasury bonds backed with the "full faith and credit" of the US government. What backs that full faith and credit? To put it another way, why do buyers of Treasury bonds believe that they'll get their money back within 10, 20, or 50 years? Because of the long-term social stability of our nation, as partially guaranteed by our powerful military. And who's to say that our military will remain powerful and our nation stable? To the extent that we do believe it, this is ensured in turn by the continuing faithful contributions of the US taxpayer -- generations of average people working for a living and cooperating with their obligations. Our time, the connections holding together the American community -- it is not an exaggeration to say our love is what ultimately backs up the greenback.

Over the long term, human relationships ultimately control the market, and over the short term, human emotions do the same thing. The other night a college friend of mine was in town for business, so I invited her to stop by for dinner. Our jaws dropped when she revealed that since I had last seen her almost a year ago, she had gone from doing international aid work in Afghanistan to working as the special assistant to Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner. She told us that as she sat in meetings with the Nobel Prize winners and the financial mandarins, the foremost factor in the minds of the elite group managing America's way out of the financial crisis is nothing less than the esoteric phenomenon of collective consciousness. "The most important thing is to avoid a market panic," she said. "It's all about the state of people's minds" -- captured in phrases like "consumer confidence."

So, even in the world's most developed and sophisticated market economy, it is ultimately human emotions and relationships that hold sway, not some abstract coercive power of the state. Markets exist because of people, not the other way around; the economy exists to fulfill human needs and serve human desires. This may be a truism, but we don't act as if we really believe it. When we put the sanctity of "the free market" ahead of human freedom and social relations, as we can see everywhere we look, we're falling prey to a fallacy. The same failing happens in our personal lives when we act more directly and more often as consumers or producers than as citizens and family members, or when like the woman on the dating "market," we submit ourselves and others to commodification.

So now that the abject and pathetic nature of the commodification fallacy has been conclusively demonstrated, it is up to us as the participants in, fools of, and creators of this ongoing illusion to carefully examine our words and our actions for signs of error, to try to make whole what has been broken, and to embark on a new way of living.

Here are three contemporary models for how to do that:

In Judaism, this process is prescribed annually and is called teshuvah -- translated as repentance, it literally means return, as to a native state of wholeness and holiness.

In the addiction recovery movement, four of the famous twelve steps consist in performing a "searching and fearless moral inventory" and in making amends to those we have wronged. And for nations that have undergone a severe collective trauma such as civil war, apartheid, or genocide, a truth and reconciliation commission attempts to accomplish a similar task by drawing testimony from the oppressors and the oppressed.

What would truth, reconciliation, repentance, and amends look like for the market system? First of all, it is incumbent upon each of us to look within our own words and actions. I can't blame an outside force such as "the corporations" or "the bankers" when I act greedy or when I objectify another human being with a glance or a word. We have to hold each other and ourselves accountable.

Second, it is appropriate for us all to engage in mourning and symbolic expressions of regret for the degree to which we have allowed the market to usurp our humanity. The "Homo economicus" model of human behavior is false and limited. Whether we are working, borrowing, buying, or selling, we are also thinking, breathing, loving, and hating. When we do things just for the money we feel sick and greedy and fake because we are contributing to the oppressive ubiquity of the market.

Finally, now that we have been forced to recognize that the economy is a human creation, we should be reempowered and freed to imagine an alternative to the oppression of market fundamentalism-to remake a system that serves humanity.

To do so, we could look outside mainstream Western culture at the way other societies and subcultures are organized. In Toward an Anthropological Theory of Value Graeber writes: "In most societies, [market] institutions did not exist...one has to...examine the actual process through which the society provides itself with food, shelter, and other material goods, bearing in mind that this process is entirely embedded in society and not a sphere of activity that can be distinguished from, say, politics, kinship, or religion."

A famous example of a society without a market is the potlatch cultures of the native Americans of the Pacific Northwest. To simplify, say there are two clans. One fishes on the seashore and one hunts inland. When the fish are running, the first clan catches more than it can eat, and feasts the second. When the buffalo are running, the second clan returns the favor. In this way, both clans eat year round, strengthen their social ties, celebrate, worship, and make peace. Redistribution of resources happens across time and across social hierarchies as well. For chieftains, skilled hunters, and anyone who manages to accumulate excess, the best way to raise their social standing in a potlatch society is to share their wealth and display generosity. This way, everyone shares and everyone eats without the need for a formal market or redistributive taxation.

If you need a less exoticized example of an alternative economy than a Native American tribe, consider the "reputation economies" of the Internet. Wikipedia, YouTube, and open-source software projects like Mozilla are valuable common resources. The platform-servers for storage and networks for transmission-must be subsidized by advertising or donations. But the highly valuable content is created, sustained, and used by people for free. Why do we do it? The phrase "reputation economy" suggests that we do it to raise our social standing, but really it's more than that. I do it and I think other people do too because it feels good to create, to connect, to make the world a better place, and to be recognized for doing so.

So to make amends in the wake of the financial crisis, the path is toward healing the separation between our "economics" and our politics, our morality, our friendships, our earth, our family, and our spirituality. Rather than attempt to destroy or abolish the formal market, we can enrich it by bringing more of ourselves to it. We could think in terms of creating alternative forms of exchange and integrating our other human values along with economic value-putting our money where our heart is. For example, you can look for work that expresses your creativity or makes the world a better place. Even if your job is less than ideal, most people can still find opportunities to express their highest values at work like honesty, integrity, and kindness. You can consume mindfully--buy well-crafted, meaningful objects that connect you to other people, to the earth, and to your local community. You can reduce your consumption in order to avoid the perpetuation of enslavement in the form of debt. You can invest your money in socially responsible businesses and projects that help society. You can attempt to fulfill more of your material needs outside the formal market and thus reduce its impact on your life, by salvaging, thrifting, creating, swapping, or otherwise reducing waste, improving creativity, and strengthening social ties. Like the potlatch societies, you can practice giving away money, goods, and time to those more needy, in order to demonstrate and manifest abundance.

And, we all can take political action to transform some of the government rules of the market game. The current world recession won't lift by resuming the path of endless growth and mounting debt. A profound global reorganization has to take place so that we put a fair value on the natural resources that underlie our unprecedented prosperity. The leap toward a sustainable economy will be realized when each of us wakes up to the reality that you are the economy, and the economy is you.

 

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Interesting ideas...

...I have some agreements and disagreements that I intend to share by the end of this weekend. I'll be interested to hear what you think. Keep an eye out ;-)

 

I leave you, for now, with the words of Murray Rothbard...

"For ultimately, there is no entity called “government”; there are only people forming themselves into groups called “governments” and acting in a “governmental” manner. All property is therefore always “private”; and the only and critical question is whether it should reside in the hands of criminals or of the proper and legitimate owners."

Well yes, and...

"When Benjamin Franklin was called before the British Parliament in 1757 and asked to account for the prosperity in the American colonies. He replied, “That is simple. In the colonies we issue our own money. It is called Colonial Scrip. We issue it in proper proportion to the demands of trade and industry to make the products pass easily from the producers to the consumers. In this manner, creating for ourselves our own paper money, we control its purchasing power, and we have no interest to pay to anyone......"

"Why rob just one person when you can rob a whole nation? And why rob just one country when you can rob them all? "


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Good piece Anya. Thanks.

The Socially perpetuated system 

that sombunal people feel uneasy to test,

can be seen as that ultimate test.

Some questions, some clarifications...

My apologies for not writing this before the end of the weekend as I said that I would. Life is full of uncertainties. As I said in my previous comment, I have some agreements and disagreements with your post, which I hope you will entertain with a response.

Anya, you have a very interesting article here, and I am ultimately with you in your pursuit to dismantle the existing, oppressive social apparatuses. However, I am having difficulty coming to grips with a lot of your analysis.

If I may ask some questions about some of the assertions put forward in the article...

 

“American-style free market capitalism, the single dominant human system of the last century or so, underwent a bloodless, swift, and absolute coup.”

-You use the word ‘capitalism’ multiple times throughout the article. I think ‘capitalism’ has come to be a pretty loaded word that has a wide spectrum of interpretations. Could you clarify your definition of ‘capitalism’?

-Here, it sounds to me like you are suggesting that ‘capitalism’ has remained pretty static and unaltered in its form until very recently – beginning to transform rapidly. Has ‘capitalism’ (how you define it) really only been significantly altered until now, or has it been slowly transforming over years and years as a consequence of cultural, technological, and legislative changes?

 

“Our democratically elected leaders, with the collaboration of our thousands of business oligarchs and wealthy financiers, have refused to put our country's vast resources to use to feed the hungry, lift up the destitute, provide care to the sick, or protect the planet from degradation, even now that it's widely acknowledged that the future of the species is at stake.”

-Whose resources are they to be put to use? What right do democratically elected leaders, or anyone else for that matter, have to determine how resources ought to be utilized if they are not the legitimate owners of those resources? You are a resource. Ought anyone other than you be able to dictate how you ought to labor?

 

“The argument was always that "the market," with its unique capacity to produce "economic growth," was too sacrosanct to be subject to the "distortions" of government intervention whether in the form of taxes or regulation.”

-While that may have been a circulating argument, was it adhered to? In what avenues of the market, today, has the government NOT intervened and distorted the incentives and interactions between people? Isn’t government, by its very nature of coercively monopolizing goods and services, market intervention?

 

“No human need or desire was deemed as important as the interests of the market, not the survival of innocent children and not the health of the air we breathe.”

-Wait, but aren’t human needs and/or desires (as expressed through voluntary exchange) what constitute a market? How does a market even have interests at all? It is not an autonomous, thinking entity. “But when the market itself was in danger of collapse, Congress acted within days.”

-Was the market actually in danger of collapse, or is that just the story we got from Congress?

 

“When banks, financial institutions, and corporations failed, the power to respond rested with the United States government. Clearly, then, government intervention is not detrimental to the market. Government intervention makes the market possible.”

-This, I think, is a double non-sequitur. First, how did you come to the conclusion that the actions by the U.S. government in bailing out failing financial institutions and other large corporations have not been or will not be detrimental to the market? Second, even if we found it were true that such government intervention revitalized the market, by what logic are we to conclude that government intervention makes the market possible?

 

“‘The state and its coercive powers have everything to do with the creation of what we now know as ‘the market' - based as it is on institutions such as private property, national currencies, legal contracts, credit markets...'Market behavior' would be impossible without police.’" – Karl Polanyi

-The first sentence is undeniable. Obviously, the market is influenced by government policy and would look very different without the coercion currently shaping it. Yet, how does it follow that “'Market behavior' would be impossible without police?” Certainly, the current ‘market behavior’ would be impossible without police, but is that true for any ‘market behavior’? It seems to me that trust and reliability are really the only ingredients necessary for ‘market behavior’. For instance, look at Ebay. The Ebay market does not rely on police. People on Ebay make exchanges with each other based on trust. If that trust is broken (i.e. one party does not uphold its agreement on the terms of exchange), Ebay and/or its participants do not resort to threats of violence. What happens is the contract-breaking party receives a poor rating, or ‘word-of-mouth’ spreads about the party’s untrustworthiness, signaling others not to do business with that party. By contrast, those parties on Ebay that continually uphold their end of business agreements develop reputations for reliability by which they prosper.

 

“He points out that our Constitution happens to guarantee the right to the abstraction of private property, but not the right to the necessities of life such as food, clothing or shelter.”

-Can anything ever be guaranteed? Not even the existing Constitution has been upheld.

-Isn’t there an inherent contradiction in providing a person with the right to food, clothing, and/or shelter, in that such a right infringes upon one’s own rights and the rights of others? Do I have the right to come to your residence and point a gun at you, demanding that you come with me to feed starving people in Africa or else be shot?

 

“In the time of the New Deal, Sunstein argues, FDR identified "Freedom from Want" as a new American right, and created new social institutions to try to protect it, but failed to enshrine it in the Constitution-thus, an unfinished revolution.”

-How is freedom from want possible? Are not resources scarce and human wants infinite?

-Were the new social institutions created by the FDR government really intended to fulfill this goal?

-The following were some of the policies instituted by the FDR government: allowing banks to avoid paying their liabilities while still being allowed to collect interest and collateral; banning almost all ownership of gold, confiscating it from U.S. citizens, and nullifying any contractual agreements for payments to be redeemable in gold; imposing agricultural regulations like acreage and production controls, restrictions on marketing agreements, licensing of processors and dealers, and rewards for farmers who scaled back production, aiming to reduce market competition and raise food prices; cartelizing industry via business licensing, restrictions on imports, and codes of “fair competition” like minimum prices, open price schedules, standardization of goods and services, and advance notice of intended price changes. And those are just the start. Aren’t these kinds of policies fascistic? Why is such a “revolution” a desirable one?

 

“To the extent that we do believe it, this is ensured in turn by the continuing faithful contributions of the US taxpayer -- generations of average people working for a living and cooperating with their obligations.”

-Taxes are faithful contributions? Really? Are they not extracted through the threat of violence?

 

“it is not an exaggeration to say our love is what ultimately backs up the greenback.”

-Might laws that have effectively monopolized currency and prevented competing currencies from arising have something to do with it as well?

 

“When we put the sanctity of "the free market" ahead of human freedom and social relations, as we can see everywhere we look, we're falling prey to a fallacy.”

-But isn’t “human freedom” implied in a free market? Isn’t freedom what makes a free market free?

 

“When we do things just for the money we feel sick and greedy and fake because we are contributing to the oppressive ubiquity of the market.”

-But why should we feel this way? I agree that doing things just for the money seems like a rather shallow existence, but why should making money be oppressive? Might we feel this way due to the coercive distortions on the market that incentivize and reward things like counterfeit, pollution, and fraud? Still, shouldn’t we feel good about making money in most cases? After all, in a voluntary exchange, making money signifies that we have provided others with goods and/or services that they desired. Is fulfilling others’ needs and desires not a virtuous act?

 

“A famous example of a society without a market is the potlatch cultures of the native Americans of the Pacific Northwest. To simplify, say there are two clans. One fishes on the seashore and one hunts inland. When the fish are running, the first clan catches more than it can eat, and feasts the second. When the buffalo are running, the second clan returns the favor. In this way, both clans eat year round, strengthen their social ties, celebrate, worship, and make peace.”

-Isn’t that a market though? One party is voluntarily exchanging a good (fish) for another good (buffalo) from another party. One clan prefers to be able to eat the buffalo when the time comes than have the extra fish, and the other clan prefers to be able to eat the fish when the time comes than have the extra buffalo. I think that’s a perfect market.

 

 

As my questions above primarily indicate, I am a little unclear on your perspective and have potential disagreements with some of your conceptual explanations of our current problems and the solutions to them. While I share much of your sentiment regarding topics like the IMF, the centralized control of money, and an economy of debt, I am concerned by your apparent opposition to the market and certain sympathies for state controls as expressed by remarks like those made in pertinence to FDR. You see, I think, from both a moral and effective standpoint, that voluntary interactions between people based on a fundamental understanding and respect for legitimate ownership and exchange are crucial to the health and productivity of any society. I cannot foresee markets not arising within a voluntary framework, and I am a bit puzzled by what you consider to be a “market” and why you seem to find them distasteful.

 

Nonetheless, I deeply admire your ability to articulate the role we all play in constructing the social system in which we live. We all need to be reminded that we are not spectators and, as the famous quote commits, we must BE the change we hope to see in the world. Wouldn’t it be a sad thing, if the majority of us were all just pretending? What if most of us think the government we live under has overstayed its welcome? What if we all just keep abiding by the corrupt and immoral rules that are enforced on us, because we think that everyone else buys into them, when in reality, few do? I am beginning to get the feeling that that is in fact the case, and it is not a far walk to massive social change. The most important thing now is to communicate these thoughts and ideas, spreading an understanding in individual minds that there is a strong collective that is “Fed” up. Once individuals have the confidence (bolstered by the knowledge of a significant number of other individuals willing to defend them) that they can start to ignore the commands from “on high,” significant social transformations can take place.

great piece

Great piece, Anya!

I agree with the commentor above that you may want to look into the Islamic banking system, shariah, and their disallowing of interest. Usury turns out to be a big problem, as the mad poet Ezra Poet proclaimed.

Interesting that you have a line into the Geithner sanctum. They are concerned with managing public perception that the system has disintegrated. Are they consciously aware that the pumping of $3+ trillions from the Fed (according to a recent excellent Matt Tiabbi article in Rolling Stone) is almost inevitably going to lead to another steep collapse in the economy, either hyperinflation or deflation? This massive handover of invented cash to the financial elite represents the ultimate corruption of our system, and will bring it down, in all likelihood, within the next few years.

We published John Michael Greer's excerpt from The Long Descent recently. Greer argued there would be a series of steep plateaus as our economy went down to an agrarian state as fossil fuels declined over 50 - 100 years. I think this steep plateau model is accurate, but think we will see it in much quicker phases - 9 months to a year, rather than a decade or more for each plateau. The artificial stimulus of the financial industry (an incredible act of theivery from all sectors of the society that produce and exchange real value) is going to lead to an epic disaster. If they don't find another quick patch (like substituting a one world currency which apparently is under discussion by the Bilderburg Group), we may see civil insurrection at that point.

I see the establishment of alternative and complementary currencies or value-exchange systems to be critical right now, as preparation, to maintain some type of economic life as the boom is dropped on the current financial system. We will be discussing this and much more at the Evolver/ThriveNY Town Hall meeting in NYC at Saint Marks Church on May 31st. "Will the transformation."-Rilke

Great essay, Anya!

EntangledRoots,

How do you define "legitimate" when it comes to property? Hell, what do you mean by "property"? Because each culture and society has come up with different definitions. And perhaps more important, many people within cultures and societies have different definitions.

It's perfectly sane to dislike market behavior. If you look at the anthropological and historical record, you'll see that the market behavior has always been a hallmark of fragmented, dysfunctional, and nonexistent social bonds. If one is interested in forming a community, market behavior is the last thing one would want to be encouraging.

There's never been an example of a capitalist market operating without coercive rule enforcers. And your eBay example falls flat, because when someone defrauds a user, the recourse isn't simply rating them "F- would not buy from them again" - you can get PayPal to refund your money, and depending on the kind of fraud, you can get the police and courts to remedy the situation.

And the potlatch that Anya mentioned isn't an example of a market: there is no quantification of the goods, there is no attempt to be made "whole" by the exchange, and if the fish catch is light one year (or a few years) that doesn't mean the fishers get less buffalo, which under market behavior would be the case. Most other examples of potlatch ceremonies involve presenting food and other goods to people who could never, ever repay them in kind. The nature of this inequivalence is part of what gives the gift giving its social power.

Insisting on a functioning market without a government is like insisting on having fish in a waterless tank. Markets have always been imposed from above onto the unwilling (the Enclosure Acts are a great example), often at the cost of the spilled blood of those who resist.

For much more extended and detailed discussions of the questions you raised, this is a great place to start.

I appreciate your response

I enjoyed what you had to say here, LibertarianSocialist. You raised some interesting points, and I have attempted to address them below. I hope you’ll take the time to contemplate them. Thanks!

 


“How do you define ‘legitimate’ when it comes to property?”


I acknowledge one’s property to be legitimate if it is a scarce resource produced by one’s labor and/or if it was received via voluntary transfer from another (not by threat of violence).

 

“Hell, what do you mean by ‘property’?”


By property, I am referring to any resource which is controlled exclusively (i.e. a resource that may be utilized by a person or group of people free from non-consensual interferences of others because others may be forcefully prevented from appropriating or altering the resource on a non-consensual basis).

 


“If you look at the anthropological and historical record, you'll see that the market behavior has always been a hallmark of fragmented, dysfunctional, and nonexistent social bonds.”


My understanding is quite the opposite. From what I’ve seen, historical analysis shows a more than noteworthy, positive correlation between the development of market activities and sociable peace amongst various cultures. For example, once trade started circulating between the U.S., Cuba, and the Philippines, the American interest in Spanish language and customs that grew from it was unprecedented and was only further stimulated by increasing trade. Americans developed a familiarity and attraction to Spanish culture similar to the appreciation for the music and dance of the French and Viennese that had come about several generations prior under the influence of open trade with Europe.  (Frank Chodorov, The Rise and Fall of Society, Chapter 6) On a personal level, I have developed social bonds with local employees, like cashiers and bartenders, whose businesses I have frequented, as well as strong ties to my former and present employers. My relationships with friends do not suffer or erode when they request that I pay for their business services or a ticket to one of their films or plays.

 

 

“There's never been an example of a capitalist market operating without coercive rule enforcers.”


I’d request that “capitalist market” be defined with respect to other kinds of markets for me to address this more appropriately. I am not sure if you are suggesting here that because there has never been a “capitalist market operating without coercive rule enforcers” then a “capitalist market” is incapable of operating without coercive rule enforcers. If that is your suggestion, it is a logical fallacy.



“And your eBay example falls flat, because when someone defrauds a user, the recourse isn't simply rating them "F- would not buy from them again" - you can get PayPal to refund your money, and depending on the kind of fraud, you can get the police and courts to remedy the situation.”


You are absolutely correct. I admit that eBay is not a perfect example. I thought it might be appropriate to point out a simple and well-known market, like eBay, that utilizes incentives alternative to force in order to show how force is not necessary to provide the trust and reliability that must be present for two parties to engage in a market transaction. Understandably, this example has failed to bolster my point. Perhaps then taking a look at the Law Merchant of the late Middle Ages will suffice?


The Law Merchant was a system of commercial law that developed for the purposes of international trade. Merchants had grown frustrated by conflict and a general lack of uniformity resulting from the differing laws of separate nations, so they created their own system of arbitrators and legal codes. Credit reports were relied upon to designate trustworthy businesses. Those merchants that refused to abide by the arbitration rulings would find themselves essentially boycotted by the other merchants.


Arrangements similar to the Law Merchant have been present throughout history. Typically, businesses may seek membership within some sort of commerce organization that denotes reputability. Alternatively, businesses may deposit money and/or assets in the hands of an arbitrator, thereby insuring other businesses potential compensation in the case of a dispute.


For a more obvious example (one that I probably should have initially pointed to instead of eBay), take the case of a man selling flowers to drivers on a street corner. There is little the man in this scenario can do should one of his customers decide to drive away without paying for the flowers he has given her. Yet, the man must experience successful exchanges, otherwise why would he continue his business there? Or how about illegal immigrants? Illegal immigrants fear being deported should they turn to the legal system for resolving disputes, yet their employers pay them for their services.


All in all, it seems rather absurd to me to suggest that market behavior is IMPOSSIBLE without coercion. I submit that large-scale, complex, and smoothly functioning market behavior is very unlikely to develop without a legal framework and police. Nonetheless, even if it were true that market behavior is impossible without coercive rule enforcers, should such a condition be taken as an argument against the market? Is all coercion illegitimate? Is it wrong to coerce someone who is trying to kill me to stop trying to kill me? Suppose I offer my computer to someone in exchange for a particular sum of money and that person acquires the computer without giving me the money we agreed to. Does this not constitute theft? If I initiate force against this person to recover the computer, does this not constitute a legitimate defense of property?

 

 

“And the potlatch that Anya mentioned isn't an example of a market:...”


Yes, it is. A market is simply a human, behavioral mechanism that allows for the voluntary exchange of goods and/or services.  


“...there is no quantification of the goods...”


If you mean there is no designated price, that is true. However, there is very likely quantification of the goods, regardless of whether such quantification is outwardly known. I do not imagine that the two clans are engaging in direct charity. They perpetuate their exchange with one another for mutual benefit, meaning that each clan continues to give its food to the other because the other clan continues to give its food to them. Again, unless engaging in charity, it is reasonable to assume that if one clan should cease in giving its food or slacken heavily in the amount provided over time, the other clan will discontinue giving its food as well. In other words, there is a point at which participating in the exchange is no longer worthwhile based on the amount of goods provided, and that constitutes the quantification of goods.

 

“...there is no attempt to be made ‘whole’ by the exchange...”


Could you clarify what you mean by this, as I am truly clueless?


“...and if the fish catch is light one year (or a few years) that doesn't mean the fishers get less buffalo, which under market behavior would be the case.”


This is an indication of the clans’ codependence, not an example of non-market behavior. Essentially, each clan has a virtual monopoly over the other clan for either buffalo or fish during a certain season. Under these circumstances, there is little flexibility for either clan to be “picky” about “prices.” There is a high threshold for what each clan is willing to settle for, because the costs of discontinuing the exchange are so high (i.e. moving to a completely new territory, or worst case scenario: starvation). It’s also worthwhile to note that this is an exchange under time-lag with an expectation from both clans for it to continue year after year. There is not necessarily a reliable way for either clan to anticipate how much fish or buffalo the other clan will be offering them the following season. They must primarily form their expectations on previous trends. Even if the fish catch is light one year, it would not make sense for the buffalo clan to offer less buffalo (assuming they were not also experiencing a light year), because the expectation is for each clan to offer a certain proportion of its “catch” to the other. It would not be of benefit to the buffalo clan to start altering the terms of exchange, because the buffalo clan, in all likelihood, wants to ensure that it will not receive less fish if its buffalo catch is light in an upcoming year. If you have ever participated in a farm share, the experience is similar. You pay a fixed rate upfront to receive an undetermined quantity of food throughout the season. Should the season be harsh and the quantity of food low, you don’t then pay a lower rate come the following year.  


“Insisting on a functioning market without a government is like insisting on having fish in a waterless tank.”


Can you back up this claim with a logical explanation or empirical analysis? If markets cannot exist without government, then so be it.

 


“Markets have always been imposed from above onto the unwilling (the Enclosure Acts are a great example), often at the cost of the spilled blood of those who resist.”


The Enclosure Acts were a despicable case of the politically connected imposing their will on others and were in direct violation of both private and common property. However, while the Enclosure Acts were an imposition of a particular structure of private property, they were not an imposition of the market itself. Certainly, the Acts reshaped market behavior, but they did not invent it. While there are plenty of cases in history of particular, undesired market forms coming about via coercive reformations of property, I see no evidence to suggest that markets are purely imposed. Markets arise wherever there is a willingness to exchange goods and/or services based on agreements of property, whether amongst Native American tribes, the anarchic developments of the American Frontier, or coordination of international exchanges.

I genuinely do not understand the opposition to voluntary exchanges that are of benefit to the parties of the exchange. Is it wrong to expect compensation in offering one’s goods and services? Is it wrong to give compensation in receipt of one’s goods and services? When I go to the grocery store for a loaf of bread, there is an interesting vocalization that occurs upon my purchase. I hand a few dollars to the cashier, to which she says, “Thank you,” and I, in turn, say “Thank you” to her before I proceed out the door with the loaf in my hands. We both benefit from this exchange. She wanted the dollars more than the loaf, and I wanted the loaf more than the dollars. Is there something I’m missing? Is this transaction unethical?


While I am not going to respond in my own words, bit by bit, to the “Anarchist FAQ” that you linked to, I will recommend my own links, here and here, which will hopefully suffice as a response. Thanks again!

Indeed...

I have noticed that there appears to be a recent trend on this website to praise the forbiddence of charging interest. Could you maybe explain your perspective on this? I am curious as to what the logic and philosophy behind this is, because I don't share this opinion. Is it that charging interest is viewed as immoral? If so, why? Or is it simply that it would be, personally pleasant to not have to pay interest on borrowed money? Thanks.

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Would you mind enlightening me then? What is immoral about interest? Thanks.

Usury / interest

If you want to understand usury read post # 10: Program your own money

or this:   http://www.michaeljournal.org/myth.htm

It's never possible to pay it back without someone losing out 

Thank you for your response

Raediance, I very much appreciate your attempt to explain to me, or at least point me to sources that attempt to explain, why interest is unethical. However, after reading through "The Money Myth Exploded" I remain unconvinced, as I found the story to be misrepresentative of reality and logically flawed.

 

Let me explain...

 

The first and most glaring error of the story is its depiction of the origin of money. Historically, money has evolved as easily divisible and uniform commodities that are widely and similarly valued (like gold), but not exclusively owned by any one person or bank, and not necessarily in fixed supply (although the more "stable" currencies have proven the most favorable to consumers). Nonetheless, I realize that "The Money Myth Exploded" is not intended as a money origin story and that money's origin matters little to the argument put forth by the story, so I will not persue this avenue further.

 

The second error that initially popped out to me was the apparent lack of participation from the banker in the economy. It was as if the banker was just charging interest for the sake of charging interest. Of course, in reality this is not the case. Lenders charge interest because that is how they make their living. Lenders desire money to purchase goods and services just as anyone else in the economy does.  With that in mind, it is fairly easy to see that one way the interest on the money borrowed from the banker could be paid back would simply be to sell goods and services to the banker for the sum of the interest owed.

 

The whole issue may become more clear if we think of money in terms of barter. In other words, instead of thinking about money purchasing goods and services, think about goods and services purchasing money.

 

Fundamentally, "The Money Myth Exploded" is correct that there is not enough money in the economy to pay off all of the principal AND the interest on that principal within the economy. If the total money supply (M) is equal to the principal (P) that must be repaid, then at any given time there is not enough money to pay off all of the principal plus all of the interest (I). Algebraically expressed, this looks like  M < P + I.

 

That being said, "The Money Myth Exploded" is incorrect insofar as it asserts the following consequential stages of the M < P + I scenario:

#1) That if P + I is to be repaid, M must be increased by at least I.

#2) That by increasing M, banks are increasing P.    

#3) That by increasing P, banks are increasing I.

#4) That, following conditions 1-3, charging interest necessarily creates a perpetual scenario in which P can never be repaid.

 

In fact, the ONLY conditions under which M (or a sum less than M) could not be used to satisfy P + I, would be if ALL principal and interest was called in at the SAME TIME, which, of course, is what is depicted in "The Money Myth Exploded," but of course this never actually happens in reality, as doing so would not only be an utterly profound coincidence, but would in actuality just be taking money circulation out of the economy entirely, thus rendering the entire point of money to begin with obsolete.

 

So far as I can tell, interest is nothing more than rent on money. Paying interest on money is no different than paying rent for a loan of any other form of capital (i.e. a car for the weekend). It is indicative of time preference, and is the price for a good/service just like anything else.

 

Would it be unethical for a blacksmith to loan 20 hammers to someone under the condition that he gets back 23 hammers? What makes a monie good loaned any different from any other good loaned? That is fundamentally, I think, what i am trying to get at.

 

Please understand, I do not dispute all claims regarding the unethical conditions of the monetary situation in the U.S. economy and others. I regard the coercive formulation of central banks and its attributes (fiat money printing, monetary monopolization) and fractional reserve banking as highly unethical conditions of the current markets, and interest, under these circumstancesadds insult to injury. Nonetheless, I do not think that interest is inherently unethical.

 

Thanks. If you have more to share with me, I'm all ears.