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Are Minds Confined to Brains?

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The following is reprinted from the book Science Set Free by Rupert Sheldrake. Copyright © 2012 by Rupert Sheldrake. Published by Crown Archetype/ Deepak Chopra Books, a division of Random House, Inc.

 

Materialism is the doctrine that only matter is real. Hence minds are in brains, and mental activity is nothing but brain activity. This assumption conflicts with our own experience. When we look at a blackbird, we see a blackbird; we do not experience complex electrical changes in our brains. But most of us accepted the mind-within-the-brain theory before we ever had a chance to question it. We took it for granted as children because it seemed to be supported by all the authority of science and the educational system.

In his study of children's intellectual development, the Swiss psychologist Jean Piaget found that before about the age of ten or eleven, European children were like "primitive" people. They did not know that the mind was confined to the head; they thought it extended into the world around them. But by about the age of eleven, most had assimilated what Piaget called the "correct" view: "Images and thoughts are situated in the head."...



Images outside bodies

Not all philosophers and psychologists believe the mind-in-the- brain theory, and over the years a minority has always recognized that our perceptions may be just where they seem to be, in the external world outside our heads, rather than representations inside our brains. In 1904, William James wrote:

"[T]he whole philosophy of perception from Democritus' time downwards has been just one long wrangle over the paradox that what is evidently one reality should be in two places at once, both in outer space and in a person's mind. 'Representative' theories of perception avoid the logical paradox, but on the other hand they violate the reader's sense of life which knows no intervening mental image but seems to see the room and the book immediately as they physically exist."

As Alfred North Whitehead expressed it in 1925, "sensations are projected by the mind so as to clothe appropriate bodies in external nature."

A recent proponent of the extended mind is the psychologist Max Velmans. In his book Understanding Consciousness (2000), he proposed a "reflexive model" of the mind, which he illustrated by this discussion of a subject (S) looking at a cat:

"According to reductionists there seems to be a phenomenal cat 'in S's mind,' but this is really nothing more than a state of her brain. According to the reflexive model, while S is gazing at the cat, her only visual experience of the cat is the cat she sees out in the world. If she is asked to point to this phenomenal cat (her 'cat experience'), she should point not to her brain but to the cat as perceived, out in space beyond the body surface."

Velmans suggested that this image might be like "a kind of neural ‘projection hologram'. A projection hologram has the interesting quality that the three-dimensional image it encodes is perceived to be out in space, in front of its two-dimensional surface." But Velmans was ambiguous about the nature of this projection. A hologram is, after all, a field phenomenon. He called it "psycho- logical" rather than "physical" and in the end said he did not know how it happened, but added, "not fully understanding how it happens does not alter the fact that it happens."

My own suggestion is that the outward projection of visual images is both psychological and physical. It occurs through perceptual fields. These are psychological, in the sense that they underlie our conscious perceptions, and also physical or natural in that they exist outside the brain and have detectable effects. Human perception is not unique in being extended through seeing and hearing. Other animals see things through fields projected beyond the surfaces of their bodies, and hear things through projected auditory fields. We are like other animals.

The senses are not static. The eyes move as we look at things, and our heads and entire bodies move around in our environments. As we move, our perceptual fields change. Perceptual fields are not separate from our bodies, but include them. We can see our own outer surface, our skin, hair and clothing. We are inside our fields of vision and action. Our awareness of three-dimensional space includes our own bodies within it, and our movements and intentions in relation to what is around us. Like other animals, we are not passive perceivers but active behavers, and our perceptions and behavior are closely linked.

Some neuroscientists and philosophers agree that perceptions depend on the close connection between perception and activity, linking an animal or person to the environment. One school of thought advocates an "enactive" or "embodied" or "sensorimotor" approach. Perceptions are not represented in a world-model in-side the head, but are enacted or "brought forth" as a result of the interaction of the organism and its environment. As Francisco Varela and his colleagues expressed it, "perception and action have evolved together . . . perception is always perceptually guided activity." As the philosopher Arva Noë put it, "We are out of our heads. We are in the world and of it. We are patterns of active engagement with fluid boundaries and changing components. We are distributed." The psychologist Kevin O'Regan, a committed materialist, prefers this approach to the mind-in-the-brain theory precisely because he wants to expel all magic from the brain. He does not accept that seeing is in the brain, because this would "put you in the terrible situation of having to postulate some magical mechanism that endows the visual cortex with sight, and the auditory cortex with hearing."

Henri Bergson anticipated the enactive and sensorimotor approaches more than a century ago. He emphasized that perception is directed toward action. Through perception, "The objects which surround my body reflect its possible action upon them." The images are not inside the brain:

"The truth is that the point P, the rays which it emits, the retina and the nervous elements affected, form a single whole; that the luminous point P is a part of this whole; and that it is really in P, and not elsewhere, that the image of P is formed and perceived."

My own interpretation is that vision takes place through extended perceptual fields, which are both within the brain and stretch out beyond it. Vision is rooted in the activity of the brain, but is not confined to the inside of the head. Like Velmans, I suggest that the formation of these fields depends on changes in various regions of the brain as vision takes place, influenced by expectations, intentions and memories. These are a kind of morphic field and, like other morphic fields, connect together parts within wholes, and have an inherent memory given by morphic resonance from similar fields in the past. When I look at a person or an animal, my perceptual field interacts with the field of the person or animal I am looking at, enabling my gaze to be detected.

Our experience certainly suggests that our minds are extended beyond our brains. We see and hear things in the space around us. But there is a strong taboo against anything that suggests that seeing and hearing might involve any kind of outward projection. This issue cannot be resolved by theoretical arguments alone, or else there would have been more progress over the last century -- or even over the last 2,500 years.

I am convinced that the way forward is to treat fields of the mind as a testable scientific hypothesis rather than a philosophical theory. When I look at something, my perceptual fields "clothe" what I am looking at. My mind touches what I am seeing. Therefore I might be able to affect another person just by looking. If I look at someone from behind when she cannot hear me, or see me, and does not know I am there, can she feel my gaze?

 

 

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treat minds

How would you treat minds as philosophical theory, in other words is not the scientific paradigm just that? A hypo thesis.Or to put it another way where does the theory leave off? I like were Rupert Sheldrake is coming from.Fields of mind are all around and yet with all the science that can be called science, isn't Rupert still making his case inside the paradigm?

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'Our experience certainly

'Our experience certainly suggests that our minds are extended beyond our brains. We see and hear things in the space around us.'

I first came across this idea when reading one of Rupert Sheldrake's books several years ago and found it so radical, like it seemed to wrap the distinctions between myself and the outside world inside out.

I later came across, what to me, are similar ideas from a non-duality teacher Rupert Spira with his 'direct method' of investigating experience.

I'm sure I didn't fully understand Rupert Sheldrake's book, but what I did glean was the idea that it seems as though the seeing of objects takes place outside of our bodies, this is because our minds extends outside our bodies. Or like my awareness or knowingness was the substance or stratum upon which objects where floating upon. Like my existence extends for as far as my eyes can see or my thoughts can think.

In this dialogue Rupert Spira is asked '‘How’ does one get the feeling that a table in front of the body is made out of the Knowing?"

http://non-duality.rupertspira.com/read/no_distance_at_all

He concludes '...the body loses its exclusive ‘me-ness’ and become impersonal like the world, and the world loses its ‘not me-ness’ and becomes intimate like the body. '

The difficulty that philosophers have

The difficulty that philosophers have with "seeing physical objects" stems from two sources: (1) Their wish to understand everything rationally and to express it in language. (2) Their assumption that the seer, what is seen, and whatever connects them are all separate things.

They can't do much about (1) because that's what philosophers do. As regards (2) however, they might just be willing to admit, if properly persuaded by rational argument, that this assumption is erroneous.

According to the physicalist cosmology, the world is (really) composed only of physical objects which themselves are organized collections of atoms. So when philosophers think about seeing, they conceptualize this as (a) a physical object, (b) light rays bouncing off the object and striking the retina of a human being and (c) that human being somehow (they don't know how exactly) becoming visually aware of that object. This conceptual framework thus presupposes the Cartesian mind-matter dualism, and leads to bogus concepts such as qualia and to all the philosophical perplexity that Cartesian dualism has produced for the last few hundred years.

If seeing is to be understood then a non-Cartesian conceptual framework is required, and also one which takes account of the natural evolution of seeing, perhaps beginning with flatworms and considering bees and frogs before getting to humans.

Rupert Sheldrake's work (with its concept of the morphogenetic field) can be seen as an attempt to introduce such a non-Cartesian conceptual framework, though there may also be other ways to do this.

Irrelevant

The problems of experience ("How is it that an experience occurs?") is different than the problems of mechanics ("How does light get to the eye?")

One of the problems with Rupert Sheldrake's story here is *illusion.*

For example, if we see a lake, he wants to say, "Well, that's because you're actually touching a real lake with your mind."  He wants us to infer that our minds then extend outside of our bodies -- perhaps we can move mountains with our external minds, right?

Okay, but what about when it's just a mirage?  Now we're "touching an optical phenomenon with our minds."  Oh dang.  Maybe it really is meaningful to think that we're behind our eyes.

I would agree that there is a moral/consequential value to being able to say: "We are the universe experiencing itself." But I disagree exactly where people start saying things like, "Well!  I knew ESP was true.  THIS is the avenue by which you're going to catch up to where I am."

does the Nietzschean horse

come before the Cartesian or does it come after the ontological fact? does the non-dual Nunc Stans gravitate beyond good and evil objects that rotate on the other side of our reasons for being.Mind within mind fields of DNA language snaking through sequences of nuances resonating eternal returns, respectively.Frameworks fracturing randomly fluxuating fractal fracture conjecture.Brains inside of minds of minds of mind manifest hallucination creation of man out of woman out of sight and out of mind, the everliving end big bang on the bongo of bardo nothingness and everything.

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the brain is a receptor, a decoder, and consciousness, however you like to define it, is outside. we are floating in it. we need our brains to process and co-create the without. if the cosmos is energy/vibration, our receptors (brains) help co-create our reality on this micro, orbiting, rock. our collective mind set helps to form social structures and the landscape that we see before us. yes, if the individual brain is damaged, the receptor does not contribute in the same manner it was able to prior, however, esp is about feeling the consciousness without, being able to tap into individual and collective vibrations beyond our internal world view. we are swimming in a sea of vibration.

Well, it's a matter of

Well, it's a matter of thoughtful consideration. In my view brain is the holder of our mind or memory what supply the information whenever it is needed so it's not jail rather it's like a controller of mind. Thanks for a worthy discussion and the opinions of the neuroscientists upon it. export factoring

early development

I can actually vividly recall some of my first grad experiences and thoughts. I remember having to train myself not to imagine that others could somehow 'know' what I was thinking, as if we were 'all one'. I told a former friend of mine, who had obtained a Masters in psychology, about it once and she rather know-it-all suggested it was a sign of some serious sort of psychosis. I think 'professionals' can be quite dangerous, personally. My conclusion is that we are conditioned to behave like lemmings and as a consequence are discouraged from true learning. I am attracted to Jung's work and found that the symbols he drew so impressively in the Red Book reminded me quite a lot of crop circle designs.

Deep Self Networks?

I think it's awesome that Rupert Sheldrake shares my enthusiasm for direct perception and enactive cognition. I also happen to believe that if he focused more on that approach he might conclude that morphic fields (ironically, a representational-like theory for extra-personal reality) are unnecessary. There's one highly speculative move I would have to make in order to eliminate morphic fields, which is to postulate (not dogmatically, mind you, just looking for evidence to see if this is true) common principles of external intelligence, the type of semantic classification and access presence we find in humans and animals, in meta-evolutionary processes and in the evolution of the fabric of matter that constitutes organisms and environments. In other words, that being physical is to participate in an elegant intelligence of the physical world. For this to fit the bill it would need to be the case that living (as an organism) and being (as physical), while being opaque in their different kinds of embodied knowledge, are capable of some kind of coordination if not reliable integration. This to me has phenomenological validity and the ring of truth. It explains why transcendent access is often part and parcel with breakthroughs in the dynamics of self.

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Obsessive Debunking Disorder

Jonathan Zap of zaporacle.com Materialist science, which is more properly called scientism, is a set of irrational biases that masquerades as science, but is actually more of an affectation, a pose, that the poser thinks defines the cosmos when actually it is more revealing of personal limitations and cultural prejudices. It is an intellectual version of tough guy affectation, a nerd's version of machismo, and this is why so many committed materialists are so rude to discourse with, and sound like dogmatic religionists. This seems to be particularly the case when scientism overlaps with atheism, which it often does. We expect religious fundamentalists to be hostile to science, but it is also important to realize that scientism is anti-science. It discounts empirical findings and even replicable studies done with the highest scientific rigor that produce results that contradict its limited worldview. It is essentially a form of cognitive self-amputation pridefully posing as masterful objectivity. It neurotically pairs feelings of superiority to others, with an extremely degraded view of human experience and the cosmos. Larry Dossey, in a fascinating article just published on RS http://www.realitysandwich.com/human_interconnection , gives a couple of examples of the degraded view of scientism: ."..astrophysicist and author David Lindley: 'We humans are just crumbs of organic matter clinging to the surface of one tiny rock. Cosmically, we are no more significant than mold on a shower curtain.' Or as Nobel physicist Steven Weinberg famously said, 'The more the universe seems comprehensible, the more it also seems pointless.' " Although many of the findings in this particular article are anecdotal, there are numerous findings produced with state-of-the-art scientific methodology that contradict the reductive, materialist view of scientism. Scientism's greatest achievement may be its ability to give us one of the most classic examples of the absurd paradoxes of the neurotic mind: believing that human existence is as meaningless as mold on a shower curtain while simultaneously feeling pridefully superior to those who don't share that belief. Thomas Sheridan just posed an incisive essay on "Obsessive Debunking Disorder" and looks at the problem of militant atheist/pseudo-skeptical debunking types with their superficial rationalism and inquisitor like vindictiveness from the point of view of left hemisphere dominance. Highly recommended: http://thomassheridanarts.com/articles.php?article_id=82 I also provide a specimen of this type of closed and vindictive attitude here: http://www.zaporacle.com/on-the-seeming-impossibility-of-civil-dialogue-... worse than the TED problem is the domination of Wikipedia by scientism. My friend Rob Brezsny just sent me the following. Check out these two essays on " the concerted effort by upper-case Skeptics to keep Wikipedia a woo-free environment." http://dailygrail.com/Skepticism/2013/3/Guerilla-Skepticism-Wikipedia and http://monkeywah.typepad.com/paranormalia/2013/03/guerrilla-skeptics.htm... Finally, for those who really want to drill into the core of this whole problem, the book that must be read is the Trickster and the Paranormal by my friend George Hansen. Very briefly: the paranormal is anti-structural, it violates expected hierarchies, and various mental constructs and, therefore, the more organized a social structure is, the more likely it is to be anti-paranormal. A hunter-gatherer tribe has a low level of organization, and is friendlier to the paranormal, but a complex patriarchy is genuinely threatened by it. For example, in the 1990s the Catholic Church published a new catechism that said "interest in the paranormal is fundamentally anti-religious." This from a religion in which there are talking snakes and seas being parted by intention and so forth. Essentially they are saying: "We'll keep the paranormal safely contained in the distant past, but want no more of it now where it would be a wildcard and might corrode accepted dogma, hierarchy and cognitive structures. The highest level of organization right now is the whole military-industrial complex, academia and institutional science. The paranormal is fundamentally threatening to many of their structures. One example is that psi research shows that it is nearly impossible to quarantine experiments (even ones with just physical apparatus and no human or living subjects of any kind) from observer effects. This finding introduces a wildcard variable calling all sorts of experiments into question. The anti-structural aspects of the paranormal are fundamentally threatening to highly structured social and mental constructs and this is why you see this peculiar parallelism, a inquisitor like vindictiveness from the odd bedfellows---religious fundamentalists and the priests of scientism. A classic example, John Maddox, senior editor of the journal Nature published an editorial about Rupert Sheldrake entitled "A Book for Burning?" Quotes from the editorial are featured prominently in the wikipedia entry for Sheldrake to this day. The battlelines have been drawn at it is hard to deal with possessed true believers. What confuses the matter even more, though, is that irrationally motivated true believers can be found on both sides of the equation: http://www.zaporacle.com/reality-testing-is-politically-incorrect/