Alien Disclosure

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Dr. Steven Greer, founder of the Center for the Study of Extraterrestrial Intelligence, recently presented “Contact and Disclosure: The Final Sequence” at the 2009 European Exopolitics Summit in Spain. Dr. Greer’s Disclosure Project is an offshoot of CSETI with the mission to disclose all information about UFOs in open Congressional hearings and make people ambassadors to ETs.

Although there are widespread theories about the federal government’s suppression of UFO knowledge, Greer discusses the role of shadow governments in keeping extraterrestrial intelligence from the population. The trans-dimensional technology that the ETs intend to share, such as electromagnetic devices that interface directly with consciousness, are being hidden according to Greer because the shadow government wants humanity to seek an “eschatological solution to the human problem.”  

According to Greer, shadow government agents such as “the secret cabal called Majestic” won’t allow even the President and CIA to access the UFO data, and it is this secrecy about extraterrestrial intelligence that Greer says is taking the planet off course. The fabricated “nexus of fear” created around extraterrestrials slows the arrival of universal peace that he says will culminate when we mature as a civilization and venture to other star systems to help ailing civilizations.

While Greer believes that all extraterrestrials are friendly and intend to help bring us into a peaceful existence, not everyone in the UFO research community agrees. This Exopolitics presentation led to an interview the following day between Dr. Greer and Kerry Cassidy and Bill Ryan from Project Camelot, who say that Greer’s “unilateral position” is “dangerous and premature.” Check out both videos to shed some light on “the greatest secret of the 20th century.”

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Comments

Different Alien Races

I am really really so hopeful and inspired by the Disclosure project. I certainly hope to become involved and be one of these ambassadors, since I have been successfully channeling extraterrestrials since last year and am part of the Galactic Federation.

I don't believe we should be dependent on governments AT ALL to disseminate this info or technology to the people. There IS a base in Antarctica called the New Berlin, a base the Nazis set up, and they already have technology that allows “vectorial viewing into the future”, “soul travel via machine”, “technical telepathy” or what he calls “eye-movies” (living another's experiences by proxy). And the guy who revealed this base revealed the crazy toroidal advanced physics to show he wasn't bonkers. People don't fake knowledge in advanced physics. www.projectcamelot.org So you see- the governments will want to keep this knowledge in their hands, and it is our responsibility as the people to do whatever we can with it sans government involvement, though a great amount of caution must be exercised in doing so with our own hidden laboratories.

There IS an issue with grouping extraterrestrials as one peaceful mind and intention- since there are many races with many different intentions. It's like saying all humans have the same intention and are all war-like close-minded beings. Generally, you can trust a being from Sirius B, Arcturus, Pleiades, Vega, Pollux, while I would be very cautious approaching an Orion grey (I wouldn't actually approach one and in fact I had a number of lifetimes outright killing them), a Zeta Reticuli (the race of small greys), and avoid the Draconians altogether although they'll hunt you out if they smell your fear or anger. I've met a couple Zeta starseeds (Zeta souls incarnated as humans) and I do believe at least a number of them are interested in God-consciousness, though the rest of them are on the mind-control chip tip, but the Orion greys and Dracs are unredeemable, and of course, they're the ones who made contact with the American government and military and struck the worst technological deal in unrecorded Earth history.

I love your posts sir, you

I love your posts sir, you go down the rabit hole while other acknowledge it and stop there. I hope the illumanati can smell there end because of people like you.

 

its all a dream, all of it.

Sat nam 

thank you casey

I only wish people would stop talking and start doing. I guess it all starts with language and intention, but I get really tired of people just recognizing the dark forces and then complaining about it like there isn't a viable alternative. I feel like unintentionally gives these dark forces more power. I guess that's what my job is- educating them about the viable alternative.

Thank you for your kind wishes and support. I need that right now. It's been a lonely battle and I'm just grateful to be coming out to the light with the positive part of what I've gleaned through my trip down the rabbit hole.

noone knows

You are right but the Alpha Centurians (small greys) are also involved in the human plight and half are torn down the middle.  Half of the Centurians want to help us and the other half don't.  The Centurians do not want a Draconian entanglement becuase they have the backing and full support if the Orion Greys.  Draconians are fully funded and well off technologically from they big Greys.  The Sirius Gods (often depicted as dragons) are on the verge of war with the Draconian reptilians to relent the strangle hold the House of Rothschild has over humanity.  This House of Rothschild is located in Israel (the fabled holy land) and there is a reason there is so much war and destruction there.  The Rothschild Draconians are in show-of-power mode to deter the Centurians and the Sirius Gods and the Rothschild Draconians have never been defeated.  The Centurian congress has a long standing treaty of non-interference with the Draconians to keep them away from Alpha Centuri.  The Sirius gods gave the ability to think to cro-magnon for a reason, so we humans can think and make decisions.  That upset the Draconian congress into banning dragons and made humans into dragon killers.  We ended up fighting those that tried to free us.  The problem is NOONE KNOWS ABOUT IT!!!!  It is all fantasy and sci-fi to the lamen.  To those of us that do know, we are looked at as kooky nut balls.  The biggest problem is the Orion Greys gave consent to the Draconians to create a clone army or clone race of greys.  The clone greys have been genetically modified and cybernetically enhanced to make a formidable force of alien machine/monsters.  I would like to ally with the Sirius and Centurian embassadors and fight the Draconian force so as to finally free humanity.  Maybe one day humans will be accepted not as a slave race but as a galactic partner in the Federation.

Aliens deal with American govt and military

Could you please elaborate on the deal that the Orion greys have made with the American govt and military?  What are the specifics of this technological deal?  Can you point me toward other resources to read about this?  Thanks!

Photographs from 2009

Dear Erin,

It is good to see that you have taken an interest in such matters! Here are some interesting photographs taken during the summer of 2009, that may provide a more detailed view: www.cropcirclewisdom.com/martinsellufo/martinsellufo.html

When asked about the intent of current visitors, Betty Andreasson said: "Seventy races, and only one offensive".

People sometimes ask, "What do they want from us?" Our self-centered psychology always shines through! It seems that our timeline is limited, and they wish to intervene.

but hey

what about nat geo, they say ufos and crop circles are just bull, shouldn't i believe the tube?

More about greys

For more info regarding the greys deal with the government that I posted on RS, check out my comments under this link:

http://www.realitysandwich.com/here_not_here

Greer is 'Disclosures' greatest enemy.

Far from being the hero of Disclosure. Greer is probably its greatest enemy. He comes across as a total egomaniac and is as far as I am concerned a total government sponsored sock-puppet, put at the helm of the Disclosure movement to slow it down and where necessary to spout government disinformation. He caused a furore at the Barcelona conference by threatening the lives of some of the delegates, including threatening  whistleblower 'Henry Deacon' and telling him to say nothing of ongoing operations on Mars by the Secret Government. A strange tack for Mr.... sorry I mean Dr. Disclosure to take. He travels the world with a coterie of bodyguards (thats right bodyguards) 'personal assistants' and other poodle groomers paid for by ?. Check out the link below for an insight into the mind of this great man.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzqDVOjtNhg

If anyone is interested in what is really going on in Exopolitics Awake and Aware in Burbank, 19-20 September. is a good place to touch bases with some the most respected people in this field. Link below.

 

http://www.projectcamelot.org/awakeandaware/ 

 

Namaste. 

" When lies pay better than truth, expect lies."

                        -Val Valerian

 

your kinda write

I saw a conference in Exeter NH my home town the sight of the first recorded abduction BEtty and Barney Hill. But your saying he's a disinfo guy. Well the guys heading this Admit they must keep some secrets and they are also vocal about their once upon a time involvement with the secret government. Sure they leave the crazy stuff out, but I don't think that hurts us. Because If they come out and say stuff like David Icke and Bill Cooper the audience will get up and leave. that content might even have some validity but no one wants to hear it.

By the way your picture is nice, To bad Communism is ridiculous and stupid, give away your rights to the oligarchs so you can be they're slave with a smile. Communists use red to represent them because communism is drenched in blood. Not to say capitalism is any better, I just prefer it, having some rights so I'm not BLATANTLY a slave. just not Obviously a slave, just a quiet slave that can't be murdered and never heard from again unlike communists. and if your not an advocate for Communism change your picture from its most vocal supporter.

Just my opinion

I have just watched the whole Project Camelot interview and I must say I really don't think he came across as a "total egomaniac". In fact, the last thing he seems to care about is his ego or reputation. Would a real disinformation agent talk about universal peace, higher states of consciousness and opening our hearts? Wouldn't he rather try to "convince" us of some truth or try to make us accept a certain ideology? On the other hand, I found the woman in the interview rather impertinent and rude. The way she was constantly interrupting him was downright uncivil. I felt like shouting "oh shut up and let him finish what he is saying!" more than once during the interview. If anyone came across as an egomaniac who wanted to impose a personal view upon the listener it was definitely her, not him.

agreed

he might be a project blue book front runner, but I think he is sincere, easy to dismiss because he speaks about "outside of the box" ideas which WERE TRYING TO PU T IN THE BOX. work with us people not against huffington post is that way for yuppies

Ugh...

Steven Greer is completely full of shit. He is the worst kind of charlatan. Avoid him like the plague. The whole exopolitical movement is an exercise in futility and mental masturbation. You want to know the secret the government is hiding? It is that they don't know what the "e.t." phenomenon is and are powerless to do anything about it. They will never admit this to the public. Disclosure, if it ever comes, will come from the skies and it will be on "their" terms.

On their terms, their terms say we must do it

Not true, every contactee and channeler agrees, WE MUST DO THE WORK! they are not going to land on the white houses front lawn, because our consciousness wouldn't be able to deal with that, were only one throw away from animals remember. If we want disclosure the public psyche must in grain a more evolved understand of mind. POO POOing the people who are trying, and saying "oh only they can save us and bring light to this topic" is limiting and ignorant. These sightings are recorded we can prove there is something flying in our skies that is not ours or once wasn't ours so don't shoot people like Dr. greer because The disclosure project is a blessing, or and organized operation of disinfo but only conspiracy theorists think that.

 

SNAKE RULE THE EARTH BECAUSE ITS ALL A DREAM 

Greers a spook

HE speaks way to much truth, who knows how far the rabbit hole goes

Who spoke from the heart?

I'm posing this question to the viewers. Who spoke out of fear and who spoke out of love? I feel that both sides are true with their beliefs and intentions but what we are all continuing to forget here is to open your heart and allow the information to flow through it. I did not get a feeling of deception from Dr. Greer nor did I get one from Bill or Kerry but what I did observe were two different patterns of thought, one based out of fear and one based out of love. Kerry and Bill seemed to approach the conversation at an arms length with overbearing sense of your not telling people to be cautious enough. Fear I feel has been the bane of human existence and causing all our current troubles. We need to look at everything not with our eyes, not with our mind but with our heart. Greer spoke very frankly and his overwhelming message was one of unity and love and that for us to project our primitive 3D human thought forms of fear to extraterrestrial life forms will do nothing more than continue to propel us along on this negative downward spiral which will eventually be the destruction of the human race, not it's savior. I could also be completely wrong and hell, who knows maybe Greer is NWO plant but that's not the feeling I received from watching him speak on several of his interviews. I am also very familiar with Project Camelot and much of the work they do. I think they bring fourth a lot of great information however how much of it is from quote un quote spooks, plants, CIA agents misinformation plants etc? I mean a lot of it has to do with an upcoming global cataclysm (which I believe may happen in conjunction with a mass evolution of human consciousness) but ultimately the only thing that will save humanity will be an open heart and a willingness to move toward a peaceful existence. Why live in fear and stockpile food, weapons etc? If shit is gonna hit the fan then we need to look towards each other as we look at our own family, as brothers and sisters not enemies. That goes for ET as well. This life is a game, a movie, a training ground for something bigger and better. The ones who make their own rules out of fear are the ones that will have a harder time evolving. But we need to love them too. Just like the people we would like to consider as evil. Infinite love is all that exists, everything else is an illusion.

 

The world for which I was made does not exist

BadRobot speaks from the heart

Thank you for your post. It shines brightly. The more we feed fear the more there will be to fear (and we'll say, See? I was right!). The more we open to love the more joyous the tranforming will be.

(The world for which you were made you are creating?...)

love your post sir

love your post sir, you got an evolver account?

"The heart...

...is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?" Jeremiah 17:9 And...so much for the human heart. Trust yourself when it comes to the UFO jockeys, then you trust a fool. Go ahead, greet these space rapists, these cattle rustlers, these marauders, these kidnappers, home invaders, fetus thieves, these animal mutilators, these terrorizers, these lying, goo-covered, blood-drinking, ruthless, merciless, DNA-tinkering, loathsome "off worlders" with a smile on your face, and "good thoughts" in your heart, with your right hand raised in a universal sign of peace and brotherhood...go right ahead. And to show goodwill, arrive with an apple in your mouth and a stick of butter in your back pocket, to save your new friends a little time... Fort wasn't kidding when he concluded that mankind is being fished for, but it is just flabbergasting how many people are swallowing the bait. I mean, even mundane human history is replete with examples of what happens when one technologically superior culture meets another, but I guess we're doomed to repeat history's mistakes, huh? For millions of us now, "disclosure" has already occurred and is ongoing. Who needs Uncle Sam to acknowledge the presence of "the Others" when they've already taken their case straight to the people? The first time I saw their fleets, I thought perhaps it was the vanguard...subsequently, I have realized that they were merely the routine patrols, making the rounds, surveying their property...there they go, in broad daylight (stealth not being a concern), supremely confident in their power, beyond arrogance in their knowledge of utter superiority. Wave! Wave bye-bye as the last vestige of your tenuous humanity sleekly soars over your head! The New Age is here, ma! Go make 'em some lemonade! Yeah, give 'em a big sloppy kiss for me. But no tongue!

I See where you are coming from BUT....

 I totally get your point JB however I disagree with the basis that the heart is deceitful.  It is infact the seat of intuition and devine love and infinite conciousness.  How many times have you made a wrong decision in your life by ignoring your gut or what you knew in your heart to be true but listing to the fallable mind or brain?  For me many times and I've regretted each and every mistake that I have made by not listening to my instinct or gut, never have I regretted any choice made with heart as the decision maker.  Call me a dreamer like Lennon but the dude knew what he was talkin about and thats why the Gov't knocked him off just like Bob Marley.  These guys spoke from a deeper truth that would have and still have the power to cause a revolution of the soul.  That's the shit that freaks out all the fear mongers, the thought of us remembering our true power and taking it back from the powers that be.  True freedom only exists with in your heart, not outside of it subject to mans law and thats what this revolution is all about, not getting caught up in all the fear based paranoia. 

 

Also with regards to your point about past civilations succombing to more powerful cultures or peoples (ex: Mayans via the Spanish).  I again will refer to the fact that that was the PAST and in effect has lead us to this most important time in our evolution as humans.  Time does not exist as this world does not exist in the way you have been led to believe it does.  I have experienced things in my life that make this 3D world look like a freakin 8 bit Nintendo game.  Fact is what ever happens to us will not be negative.  I know for a fact there are entities that are negative that exist on a much lover vibrational frequency but they have no power over your being.  Once you begin to let go of the idea that you can be destroyed or enslaved your free.  You are pure energy, a spiritual being having a human experience.  Nothing more nothing less.  Also understand that these beings that may or may not be malevolent are you.  See whats hard for us to understand in our current human form is that there is no us or them, they are us, we are them.  They are us.  All of us.  Only in our human minds were we able to create a seperation from the Oneness energy.  We freaked the shit out of ourselves lifetimes ago and gave up our freedom to these beings.  Thats why we are where we are at this point.  Untimately the only  way we will evolve to a higher lever of consciousness is to understand that to live in fear is to live seperate from the god consciousness. 

 

Not to be a dick but I'm not big of folks throwin around scripture quotes because everyone can find something to express their point no matter how deluded their belief (and again I'm not saying what you believe is right or wrong, there are just so many ways to intreperate what these old guys said)I can qoute scripture too which was pretty much written by the guys controlling us now:

 

John 10:34, “Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

 

 

The world for which I was made does not exist

YET!

IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF YOU!!

This is why exopolitics is so pertinent right now in an age where the New World Order is presently winning in the power struggle for Earth and her resources.

The secret government is plotting a world take-over through the United Nations, but if the individuals of Earth could invite the Galactic Federation in, it would start a whole new political system separate from the system that already exists. This is what the ascension is all about- new structures and true soveireignty- REAL democracy- not building upon fallen structures with fascistic agendas bound to collapse in the dimensional shift.

The Galactic Federation hopes to enlist as much of humanity as possible to counter the New World Order and needs all consenting human beings to invite the Galactic Federation in so that the enlightened ET races may help. They do not invade- and can only be invited in- which is why disclosure is so necessary.

Please DO NOT do the ENLIGHTENED ETs a disservice by lumping ALL ETs into one category. The Galactic Federation is SO FAR REMOVED from the grey-Annunaki-Draconian-Alpha Centauri complex that has fucked with and manipulated humanity since its conception. But unfortunately- the bad ETs technology and alliances with the secret governments are so thick and heavy-handed that in order to give the good side a fighting chance, we ask THAT EVERY HUMAN BEING WITH LOVE IN HIS/HER HEART INVITE THE GALACTIC FEDERATION INTO EARTH RIGHT NOW. WE CARE DEEPLY FOR EARTH AND HUMANITY AS WELL.

I am a channel for the Galactic Federation.

You are so on the money!

I need to get in touch with these guys STAT!  (the Galactic Federation)  Any thoughts? 

 

 

The world for which I was made does not exist

sirius...baby

sirius...baby your making my world rock.

 

your the type of person i would meat at yoga... you got an evolver account?? 

Galactic Federation Love

I'm glad people are being so receptive to the Galactic Federation! Please tell all open-minded freedom-loving people to verbally welcome the Galactic Federation into Earth to help humanity. Trust me, they will get the memo. We need just over 50% of humanity's approval to start to do the good work on the political frontier. This is the only powerful enough solution I've seen to counter the power of the New World Order, and come hell or highwater- I am not letting those fuckers have their way without a battle. Starseeds are taking a stand for Mother Earth and the freedom of humanity!!!

That's funny that you would bring up the yoga thing. I teach tantric yoga, but usually if I go to other teacher's classes- unless it's Iyengar- I just wind up pissing the controlling teachers off because I'll just sit there on my mat meditating while everyone else is doing endless sun salutations. I'm a yoga rebel!!!!

On Evolver.net, I am Sirius Baby. Can you friend someone on that site? I'm fairly new to it.

his words are mighty

he sounds full of love.But remember lucifer offers love, he gives his love to the illumaniti.I am young, i have always been a believer, i like the things he says, i comand them to be true right now in infinite loves name, sat nam

Loving the Alien

These so called 'extra-terrestrials'. I'm not sure if they even are that. These predatory parasites that have allied them selves with the darkest and most oppressive cabal on Earth. An enormous amount of people have come foreword at a cost to some of them of their lives, telling of Government / military interaction with these entities in exchange for technology and who knows what else. The new age love and light brigade whitter on about some sort of 'Star Trek' protocol that forbids the parasites from intervening in our evolution or some such rot. The fact is the are intervening and doing so with the most reactionary despotic forces on our planet. As they say " Birds of a feather flock together ". Why  ?. Because they are parasites like the human entities that control this planet. The new age love and light brigade say that the ET's cant intervene. Why not ?, because of the imagined 'Star Trek' protocol. A crime of enormous proportions is being committed on Earth in hundreds of wars, in the bellies of thousands of starving children. In the rape of our Planet. Would you walk by a rape and say nothing. They say "Oh they cannot land on the White House lawn it would upset too many people" Tough. We would get over it. And after a few days when we had gotten over it we would turn to our elected oppressors and start to ask some questions. Yes, serious questions would be asked. About what is really going on on our planet as we tip-toe towards totalitarianism. With chemtrails, upcoming forced vaccinations, engineered economic crises, 911's, the 'man-made' global warming hoax etc. Meanwhile our friendly disclosure merchants fly first class around the world, spouting nonsense about 'intergalactic brotherhood' and about how ' Mans destiny is among the stars' etc to starry eyed cretins who haven't got a clue except what cyber-schlock pours out of their TV's etc  and into their feeble minds. And these are supposed to be our heroes. I think not. Do you think they are not aware of all this? And yet they can stand there waffeling on about our planetary jailers and how because they are more technologically advanced than us the must be 'enlightened'. Wake up people ! A scam of epic, nay, Global proportions is being perpetrated on us and people like Dr. Greer are the Judas Goats filling our willing empty minds with talk of lovely little Star-Beings as we, mesmerized, trip merrily through the slaughterhouse gates.

 

      " When lies pay better than truth, expect lies."

                          - Val Valerian 

                "We keep cattle. Who keeps us?"

                              Charles Fort 

Savior Complex

You obviously have the intelligence to see through the scam of the invading species of aliens.

Fascistic leaders will attract fascistic E.T.s and rule with their force combined, manipulating en masse. The predatory greys' and draconians' One World Order Agenda (aka Orion Empire) is infamous for setting up puppet governments that create the illusion of freedom to the governed public while involved in complete mind control behind the scenes, and yes, they are in bed with the secret gov. and military-industrial complex. The illusion of free will becomes another manipulation that is grandly orchestrated.

However- don't fall prey to the illusion that because the good aliens don't land on the white house lawn, that they don't care. As a clairsentient starseed from Sirius B (one of the most metaphysically advanced stars in the galaxy)- I personally feel the depth of the Earth's pain at being raped and have faced all kinds of similar parallels to the rape of Earth at the behest of my female body. Really awful stuff that's made me suicidal at times and longing for Sirius.

Imagine wanting to land in an insane asylum where the people in charge are armed and the populace is antagonistic towards aliens. I'm sure you've heard of the government's Star Wars program. It's not very inspiring to the peaceful unarmed races of ETs to have to deal with missiles being blown at you just because you want to help. The good aliens are over the martyrdumb thing.

Humanity needs to take personal responsibility for their own actions and get out of the scripted "savior hero" story. Those of us on ground control- and even the guys in the sky- are here to co-create the ascension. I've learned from personal experience that once you become a hero or a savior, you are one step away from being stoned off your pedestal. I can't tell you how many times I've been martyred after having been labeled a "hero" on this plane. Save and Destroy are two complementary opposites that are drawn together out of the Void. Everyone that I've had the illusion of being saved by has always destroyed me because I gave my power to them.

You can't just expect us to clean up the disaster humanity has made of this planet only to incur insults, disbelief, distrust, accusations, martydom, etc. HUMANITY NEEDS TO TAKE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS DISASTER. And then you will find us willing helpers. We are not enablers and do not support the co-dependent "save us" patterns that many of you rely upon. You will not learn anything this way. The apocalypse will be the hardest lesson in growing up that humanity has ever experienced.

Also- in accordance with galactic law, we do not intervene if the populace does not want us here. We are different from the invading races in that way. If you do want us here- then stop being antagonistic and invite the Galactic Federation in. That is the only way they will truly brave the rocky terrain of human destruction to truly help and co-create the new paradigm.We respect humanity's freewill and cannot and will not intervene with what you choose for youselves.

The truth is- we are already here walking amongst you. Many of us have incarnated in human bodies aka "starseeds" and "walk-ins" and learned all of humanity's debunkt scripts to gain rights to be able to tinker and change these corrupt systems that have raped our bodies minds and spirits. There are some things you can do in a body that you can't do from across dimensions.

So you want to know what the good aliens want and think? Ask me. I can speak your language and their language. But don't categorize all aliens into one lump sum- it is an insult. Can you imagine the warm welcoming we would face if we just lumped men, women, Chinese, African, and Caucasians as "humans" who were all after the same thing?

You know how you can tell the good aliens from the bad ones? The bad guys want to "save" you- some of these fallen beings are the hierarchy for the Catholic Church. So stop asking to be saved by the aliens because there are some nasty beings who want to save you from yourself.

 

BadRobot...

You are not a dick! So, having established your non-dick status, I appreciate your thoughtful comments, and would like to address a few of them. Disagree all you wish about the deceitfulness of the human heart. Doesn't change a thing, however, about the truth of that statement. It's a dead-on observation about the state of the human animal. A cursory overview of history or current events bears this out, beyond any reasonable doubt. Now, when you talk about the heart being the source of intuition, divine love, etc., you are, of course, speaking of the MIND, yes? That pesky, still, small voice of conscience? So, the question becomes, how many people are walking around on this planet who are truly people of GOOD CONSCIENCE? Gotta be one in a million, or something like that. I'll do a survey and get back to you. Now, as far as trusting your gut--going on instinct--isn't that the syndrome the gambling addict falls into when he throws away the baby's milk money on the ponies because he had a "gut instinct" that Never Gonna Win was gonna win? The same syndrome lottery ticket buyers fall into when they play that "hunch"? The sucker who tries to fill an inside straight? If more people trusted their RATIONAL MINDS, their God-given powers of REASON, then we'd have a whole 'nother ballgame on our hands. You say you've never regretted going with heart over head...well, I'll accept that, but opine that you may be in the minority. But, best of luck with that life strategy. Okay...time doesn't exist? Explain that to the judge the next time you're late for a court appearance. Fact is, whatever happens to us will not be negative? Well, you're right if three or four billion people dying in utter terror and physical agony isn't negative, but otherwise, try telling, oh, your average Palestinian, for instance, that whatever happened to his three-year-old wasn't negative. Now, I know you didn't really mean to be patronizing with your second paragraph, as you hold forth on the true nature of time, the world, negative beings, etc., and I won't doubt that you've had some far-out experiences, but allow me to retort: Negative beings exist on a HIGHER vibrational level, and most certainly can exert power over your being. A person most certainly CAN be destroyed or enslaved. The being that "may or may not be malevolent" IS NOT ME...IT is IT, independent of my existence. There IS an us and a them; THEY are THEM, and WE are US, and never the twain shall meet. As far as the "Oneness" energy, I will point out that although both a weed eater and an automobile both run on gasoline, they are distinctly different objects with unique properties and purposes. And we did not give up our freedom to these beings, we made a DEAL with them and HOPPED INTO BED...this is a JOINT VENTURE. So, BadRobot, I thank you again for your thoughtful comments, and felt it appropriate to respond in kind. NEXT UP: Naugahyde Budda, I couldn't agree more. AND, Sirius Baby, are you, like, serious, baby? Now, if you will excuse me, I have a survey I need to format...

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This "Galactic Federation"...

Is that the same as the "Federation of Light"? Anyway, I don't trust it. Somehow these Federations keep reminding me of that notorious Bluebeam project with its Giant Space Show and Fake Rapture. Also, aren't they the ones who promised us a fleet of space ships on October 14th last year?

Galactic Federation Part Deux

The Galactic Federation was upset that the Federation of Light's mothership was not able to inhabit the air because humanity did not give them an invite once the memo was sent out that they intended to come. The Federation of Light is not able to invade if that's what humanity perceives and if humanity is resistant. None of the light beings tinker with humanity's free will. Mediums are channels for perfect intentions that don't always find receptors in an imperfect world.

The Galactic Federation is different from the Federation of Light. Distrust as you may, but don't go complaining when you get your New World Order. Don't say we didn't warn you. Distrust is the emotional flavor and essence of the New World Order.  Do you trust the lies, greed, and manipulation more than you trust the Unknown agendas of benevolanet ETs that is just coming to light?

We hope that you stay open-minded to us because we do not want to see the New World Order win. Love the love that sets you free.

oh man

oct 14 was a disappointment, but i could have guessed.

 The federation of light did promise a mass sighting last year, so disinfo? Its all a dream anyway

yes well

It was a disappointment to all of us. But let's not let that stop the project of Disclosure. Something that's happening with ETs on Earth is begging for further investigation. The truth is rarely simple and never pure.

2000 years ago, when we were cavemen

LOL, he said that. I enjoyed the talk, but I just had to bring that up. Jesus, that crazy crucified caveman.

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We must prepare ourselves to deal with tornado blues, choose truth over lies, choose wise eyes to sift through news, the sands of time will stop for an instant or two after a century of blue, then true hearts and wise spirits will find ways to blare their care to the anti-Roman centennial army of anti-time to temper not the tornado, oh hell- the smell of death, the hope of breath to live a life with no pain is an opiate affair, how dare the doctors try and kill us, pop and pill us, toil and till us. is there no end to this insanity? Or are the mechanical elves devas in computers rearranging circuits while we sleep? Anti-organic emotional decomposition in the hell realms of human entropy. Toroidal nuclear mushroom nutshakes made of fiber glass shitake. Reishi was an alien fungus. I hear that there’s an extraterrestrial among us. Let us not make fools of our species being. The human race armed with technology is like a drunk with a keg and an MK47.

Thoughts

Wow.. great comments so far ya'll! A meaningful and pertinent discussion for sure -and these are concepts that I am all too familiar with.. this is def one of my favorite metaphysical topics -- especially when talking about ETs and UFOs relation to mass and evolutionary consciousness...

 

I will go ahead and tell you I have very recently been on a CSETI expedition with Dr. Greer & company and spent an entire week contacting ETs under the stars in Mt. Shasta just this past August... while there were some elements that didnt satisfy me, I must say I encountered some very strange phenomenon in the sky and in dreams (and still do) related to the whole ET presence..

 

what will happen next? I don't know, but I do know we must do all we can to discover the Truth and apply it to what we do each day. Live your truth and transformation will occur within and without. Peace & Blessings

Bob Dean's comments at the 2009 Bay Area UFO Conference

I just attended Bob Dean's workshop at the UFO conference in Santa Clara. He said that there is ZERO chance Obama or anyone else in Government will disclose anything - ever.

 

His reasoning: Imagine if the Great Satan of America announced that all world religions are BS and everyone at the top has known this for years. Bad scene. Won't happen in his opinion.

 

However, Dean seems to admire the work of the "Three Steven's of the Apocalypse." Steven Greer, Steven Bassett, and Steven Spielberg. The Disclosure Project, Paradigm Research Group, and the movies/TV programs of Spielberg (e.g., Close Encounters, ET, Indiana Jones Crystal Skulls, and Taken).

 

All are "gently and slowly" paving the way for actual global unveiling of ET participation. In fact, he claims that there are two Spielberg films and a TV program coming out that will blow everyone away and really get people talking about our alien friends. He also gave some props to Chris Carter of X-Files fame.

 

Bob Dean did not provide any opinion on how or when we will make contact on an open and global scale. But, he stated that we will continue to work with the ET's behind the scenes until we are ready. We are on an evolutionary path that will unfold over the next 10,000 years. In the next 100-200 years we will become space travelers. What happens between now and then, he did not say.

 

My .02: Though I was greatly disappointed to hear Dean's assertion that there will be ZERO government disclosure, I find it hard to argue with his POV. The ET's are already working with our governments and small groups of individuals. I think our Friends in High Places will simply act without Gov't permission and reveal themselves once a tipping point is reached across the global population.

 

 

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In a Nutshell!

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Practical abstractions

Very nice thread, much because of the quality of the comments, which present various perspectives on a grander scale.

I have a cottage industry cosmology theorizing that the overall patterns governing complex 'life' are uniform everywhere. So whether 'life' manifests with six legs or is non-corporeal, there will be fundamental and similar principles involved.

In short my idea is, that existence contains two options: Predation based on mechanistic food/power hierarchies, originating with the dualism, which for all practical purposes manifests as 'reality' in macro-cosmos.

Alternatively there's the option of higher 'awareness' (probably 'transcendence'); free-will based, non-mechanistic and symbiotic.

I take it for granted, that a variety of non-human species exist, not least based on my own encounters with, what's unfortunately mostly have been 'negs' (negative entities), including some greys. I've met and communicated with between 10-15 different species in 'normal-time', 'ordinary awareness', and this has strongly confirmed my opinion, that even non-humans can behave as stupidly predatory as the human race. Though, .... my own experiences do not prevent me from (at least) hoping that there are species, which have followed the way of higher awareness instead of predation.

As to the exact nature of all the non-human species observed generally, ETs, indigenous, immigrated, nuts-and-bolts, non-corporeal I can only guess, but evidence mostly point to a multitude of emerging complex 'life'-forms, and I think we must react accordingly.

The present thread has been much about what to expect from such non-human species, and I believe, that we can use ourselves as indication. There are predators and 'the good guys'. And for predatory behaviour, I think we only have to look at human history to find a pattern. An invading predator will use propaganda, indoctrination and, if necessary, violence; allying with the natives who from fear or greed pave the way of an invasion.

How to relate to 'the good guys' is somewhat more complicated. Partly because they are at a higher level of awareness than most humans (making communication difficult), but even more because what they (the good guys) have to give us is severely restricted by our ability to recieve. You can't 'teach' (and naturally even less enforce) non-predation, as higher awareness completely depends on an individual's active and voluntary participation.

Possibly can humanity resist an invasion based exclusively on physical technology, but as a very strong element of psi-technology is present, also amongst the non-human predators, my own opinion is, that the best we can do to a/contact 'the good guys' and learn from them, and b/protect ourselves as effectively as possible (and minimizing violence) from the predators, is to highten our own awareness. And this can only be done from a choice.

I'm very far from believing in universal love, generally beneficial space-brothers and other optimistic theories, and my emphasis on higher awareness shall not be taken as a total exclusion of nuts-and-bolts preparations. As a species we still have a long way to go, before we collectively arrive at 'enlightenment'. In the meantime a functional balance must be found between our own mechanistic predation and starry-eyed (but naive) idealism. We may even save our planet from ourselves this way.

Tao

I know not thing and there is not thing I could contribute to this wonderful discussion.

nobody knows a thing

so because they are more intelligent, they are more benevolent? one might suggest that us humans are more intelligent than, say a slug... but i had to talk a group of children out of soaking slugs in salt the other day...but i don't consider myself bad killing a mouse... although if i CAN catch him, i'd rather throw him out than kill him. if the advanced intelligence of other species serves them at all, it's to make them more adept at consuming others. but i doubt that we're dealing with physical beings in clunky spaceships... we're dealing with something psychically larger who somehow feeds on our emotions, on our thoughts, our dreams, hopes, doubts... something that is intimately connected to us consciously.this other that faces us now is somehow connected to us through our fears and compassions... it, they reflect us back to ourselves in ways we can't even begin to comprehend...

Re: laromero

True. A wise poster on the subject once commented, that to understand the preditor/prey situation, it must be considered from both perspectives, if we want to do anything about it.

Other life in the universe

I absolutely believe that there are extraterrestrials within this world. We live in a civilization where we have trouble grasping beyond what we can see. Speaking of aliens - I through this was a great book by Isaac Asimov - Extraterrestrial Civilization.

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