Adam Clay, Lazarus Mouse and the Kingdom of Eros
Amy George
"The last time he had sex with me, he was so forceful that it hurt me. I was really sore. He is not a visibly violent person, but this manner of sex tells me something about his latent hostility!”
This man is ruled by an archetype. An archetype is created when universal patterns or tendencies mold and define a person. Archetypes are mirrors of the human condition. They are illusions that form a barrier between the ego (conscious I) and the Self (unconscious I). Archetypes may be unlearned, and replaced with self-awareness.
Examples of common archetypes are the clown, the thief, and the virtuous maiden. Let’s call the archetype that correlates to the above-described, male, hypersexual expression “Adam Clay.” Deconstructing the Adam Clay archetype, it is revealed that it becomes the most balanced when exerting maximum force toward a goal it believes it can achieve. Sport is convenient and ideal for this, but sex suffices in that Adam Clay is still “scoring.”
Because of Adam Clay, men express love through forceful sex (as do their partners receiving it). Let’s call the violence of Adam Clay’s sexual force “Aries” and use “Eros” to name the love man expresses in forceful sex.
In sexual and non-sexual spheres alike, Aries and Eros are on a pendulum. When the pendulum swings to Aries, it must return to Eros, and vice versa. If a person acts out of Aries without regard for Eros, law is broken, and death and hardship rule the day. If a person acts from Eros without compensating for Aries, they cannot survive. And so the pendulum swings.
When partners consensually unite in forceful sex, the pendulum is transcended. Eros neutralizes Aries, allowing the couple to bypass the pendulum of Aries and Eros altogether for a time, as they alchemically transform Aries into a massive dose of Eros. Yum.
The greater the expression of Aries, the more erotic sex can be - up to a point, past which Aries either harms physically and/or harms dignity, and/or becomes a black hole of feelinglessness. In this context, Aries contributes to the formation of the dominatrix archetype. In response to numbness, the dominatrix commands feeling. In response to misogyny, she demands respect. She is a personage of female Yang.
The man whom Adam Clay rules has an inner-woman. All men do. She personifies their receptivity, feelings and balance – male Yin. While Adam Clay’s stability relies on forcing the world into balance, the stability of man’s inner-woman lets the world be, which brings it into balance.
Man’s inner-woman is neutral toward things that compel Adam Clay. Adam Clay carries so much blind rage that man’s inner-woman won’t have anything to do with him. To fend off Adam Clay some men compulsively attempt to personify their inner-women through crossdressing, others through forced feminization by a dominant woman, and still others through drink or denial.
As man ages, the power of youth wanes, allowing him more balance, an attribute of his inner-woman. If a man loses power, and Adam Clay still spurns the balance of the man’s inner-woman, a man will become abysmally selfish, sometimes until his life is hardly more than debris to the planet, till he is more archetype than man.
I had this dream which was a lesson about balancing men’s lack of erotic receptivity: There are six men lying supine on tables. None is allowed to move, at all. I am one of six gleeful women wearing lingerie and satin gowns. At the same, we each mount one of the men for a few seconds. Then we simultaneously dismount and move on to the next, and so on to the next and the next, having sex with all the men. Meanwhile the men are meditatively still.
Were a man presented with the opportunity to participate in a waking-life event such as this, Adam Clay would make it difficult for him to approach it respectfully. Were he to try to approach this event respectfully, for the sake of neutralizing Adam Clay, he would find the mix of meditative stillness and erotic pleasure agitating in the extreme. By focus on releasing the agitation, he releases Adam Clay.
The dream offers a hyperbolic antidote to Adam Clay’s Aries. Instead of dominant and aggressive, Adam Clay is required to remain supine and receptive. If the man forces the archetype to remain this way, receiving the vagina with the penis, Adam Clay will dissipate and the man will be transformed, but not instantly. His transformation takes place through willful devotion to changing his relation to Eros as part of a broader, global and cosmic existential shift toward greater awareness.
Nowhere in the Bible is it stated word-for-word that the lion will lie down with lamb. The verse most nearly echoing the prediction is Isaiah 11:6: “The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.” The verse metaphorically (if not literally) describes harmony as it is in the New Kingdom.
The New Kingdom is the post-apocalyptic world. In the New Kingdom, knowledge (conceived in Eden from the Tree of Knowledge) has cleansed the Beast from human reality, hence the lion may lie down with lamb.
“The Beast” is a name for the biological legacy of evolution. Spiritual evolution overcomes the Beast. Without the Beast to contend with, humanity may focus on existence before survival. Without the Beast obscuring existence, humanity’s relation to the world comes to mirror God’s. As such, the type of extraordinary relationships between man and beast - such as those that St. Francis is remembered for - become normative.
As the Beast is subdued with spiritual knowledge, animals take on a metaphorical function, like characters in a story. The metaphorical function of animals has been central to myth since its prehistoric advent. From the earliest times, stories about animals were suggestive of the relation between them and humanity that comes into being in the New Kingdom.
In addition to myth, dreams are also rich with the metaphorical aspect of animals. In the early 90s I dreamed the whole cat family, from the lion to the housecat proceeding side-by-side in a line sweeping from the front to the back of a church. While the lion stands for God, the cat family symbolizes Catholicism – Cat-holicism, or Holy Cat-ism, if you will. As the lion is known as King of Beasts, God is King of the Beast in man. When the Lion lies down with the Lamb, God the Father is reunited with Christ the Son, on Earth.
I have dreamed of Mary as a purple panther and Jesus as “the rare spotted tiger.” The purple shows Mary possessing a post-evolutionary color, a color of beauty and royalty, rather than survival and adaptation. “Rare spotted” refers to how Jesus is rarely directly experienced (“spotted”), and also to how when he is experienced, it is in forms that are difficult to anticipate. That is, as one would not anticipate a tiger to have spots, neither can they anticipate experiencing Jesus.
Where Catholicism is uncompromised by the Beast it becomes associated with the cat and is a vehicle of the New Kingdom. As Christ can be symbolized as a cat, monks and nuns surrender themselves to him as mice so that he can torment the Beast out of them; tormenting them as cats do to mice. This is purgation, alchemical purgation.
After the torment is done, Christ consumes the monk and nun like a cat eats mice. This is a metaphor for Christ integrating the monk and nun into his body. Once they have been thus integrated, they have become saintly. Of them it can then be said, “They are in him as he is in they,” which is equivalent to Christ saying, “I am in the Father as he is in me” (John 10:38). The Lion has lain down with the Lamb.
The snake is another beast with an elaborate metaphorical side. For modern spiritualists the snake is typically associated with Kundalini, which is “serpent power” or concentrated life-force. People practice Kundalini yoga, have Kundalini awakenings, and access Kundalini in Tantric sex without understanding the Kundalini Snake’s relation to Christ Cat.
In biological evolution, the snake is more fundamental than the cat. The snake is inside the cat, as the cat’s central nervous system, its brain and spine. Likewise Kundalini Snake is within Christ Cat, being as central to Christ’s divine love as the snake is to every creature with vertebrae. Where Kundalini is deeply instinctual, Christ consciousness is supremely ethical and self-aware. The two differ greatly, but are one in the New Kingdom, in the mystical body of Christ.
I dreamed: I am straddling a guy while he is in the lotus position. We toss a dead mouse back and forth. As we do this it seems the guy is trying to lift of the ground by accessing Kundalini. I ask him if this is what he is doing, He says yes. But then the real goal of what we are doing is accomplished: The dead mouse begins walking on the guy’s crotch.
The Mouse is Eros. Mice are an apt metaphor for Eros. As the smallest warm-blooded creatures, they convey meekness. Genuine meekness is a channel for immense feeling because it typically must remain concealed, in safety or under repression.
In the dream’s symbol of my partner trying to access Kundalini, the dream shows he is misinformed about Kundalini’s relation to Eros. To manipulate Eros and Kundalini, as he is trying to do, is to misuse them. In essence, Eros and Kundalini are powers to sacrifice oneself to, like a mouse giving itself to a cat, like monks and nuns giving themselves to Christ.
To pretend to be the Mouse to attract the Cat or Snake is folly, just as it is folly to manipulate Kundalini for sex without regard for Christly Eros - as it is unheard of in the biological realm for a mouse to attract a cat or snake.
Dominion in an erotic partnership invokes Aries. The more a partner claims dominion over the other, the less the Mouse can live. To serve Eros purely, as Christ does, the Cat receives the Mouse as the Mouse does the Cat, neither with dominion over the other. The pure essence of erotic partnership is derived from combinations of the mouse & cat: Mouse/Mouse, Cat/Cat, Cat/Mouse, Mouse/Cat.
I recently dreamed: I am holding my partner’s small foot, feeling her feeling. Eros spills across time into eternity. In the dream my hand is the Cat and my partner’s foot is the Mouse. My hand is to a vagina as my partner’s foot is to a penis. Though I play the Cat, I receive the Mouse, feeling her feeling.
Feeling another’s feeling subverts Aries. Forcing another to feel encourages Aries.
Feeling another’s feeling is elemental to any form of compassion. As such, when partners feel each other’s feeling, there is sexual compassion. Sexual compassion nurtures saintly eroticism, vanquishing Aries, nurturing meekness, causing sex to lose its habitualness, making each occasion new, and virginal.
People may endeavor to find their meekness and dignity by suffering their alienation from themselves. In doing so, they cultivate new perspectives, and thereby they change.
In dreams, death symbolizes change. Conversely, in waking-life, change is a kind of mini-death. Change initially strips power, leaving people naked and imbalanced. Later, naked and balanced, they are reborn into a higher reality which sustains the sweet, white fire of erotic purity.
In the New Kingdom, where there is no separation between God and humanity, God is fully present at every erotic event. There, self-indulgent sex, sex addiction, sexual tension, sex crime, smut, prostitution, marriage, shame/shamelessness, affairs, Adam Clay and the dominatrix are impossible. People are too naked and balanced for such things to exist. Cat, Mouse and Snake inform Eros with purity.
The following vision provides a glimpse of sex in the New Kingdom. I had the vision in 2000, a year I spent submerged visions. I was able to date the visions by how marvelous their scenes and how rich their colors. I dated this vision at 2450.
In the vision, two women are making love. Each has a penis and a vagina, but for the lovemaking they aren’t using their vaginas at all, only their penises. By getting in the right position, it would be possible for them to make love with all four sex organs simultaneously.
Woman A’s penis penetrates woman B through B’s penis, fluttering as it pushes B’s penis up inside of B. Then B’s penis pushes out, with both penis heads still touching. Woman B’s penis pushes A’s into A, fluttering and penetrating. Such penile movement becomes possible once Kundalini has married the flesh. Then there is no impotence or erection as we have known them. The penis is reunited with its snake nature. Like Moses’ staff, the penis becomes a snake.
Back and forth the women flutter into each other, crying out in ecstasy and weeping tears of joy. The tears stream, single file, into the eyes of the partner. Woman A is wearing a necklace of thorns that do not cut her.
The scene switches and woman A is standing on a little hill, flanked by two women on separate little hills. They are naked and streams of flowers are arcing through the air. They alternate poses with dance – sort of like voguing.
When they are in a pose, their bodies fill with Eros. They hold the pose for as long as they can bear, and then burst into dance as the Eros runs through them. In a few seconds, their bodies come to rest in another pose. Eros is breathing through them. They cry out in saintly, orgiastic ecstasy.
Images by J. Star and Jude Hill, used under Creative Commons license.
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Seducing the rare spotted tiger
Hi Amy,
It’s great to see another one of your provocative and beautifully crafted essays. What struck me first was the range of the tone and imagery, from the near pornographic to the childlike to the scholarly/analytic to the rhapsodic to the apocalyptic to the confessional. I especially loved the playful but profound use of animal symbolism- the purple panther, the rare spotted tiger, the Christ Cat, the mouse as Eros. This use of imagery seems both Medieval and postmodern.
The breadth of your perspective reminded me of a few lines from a poem that I wrote several years ago called “They Have Gone Down to the Center of the Earth", in which I attempt to excavate the traumas from past civilizations that caused consciousness to be experienced as an alien visitor to the body. At the end of this piece, a voyager emerges from a series of apocalyptic encounters the underworld to see two ancient gates that are set before an ocean. The inscription on them reads:
“We were raised up by primordial love. Transcendent vice. Orgasmic intellect. Who does not bear his memory as a gift cannot return through us. Abandon time- all you who enter here.”
These words are a take off on Dante’s inscription on the gates of Hell. In this case, however, the words are posted at the exit rather than the entrance to the underworld, to signal the transmutation of Plutonic energies. The poem ends:
“My outmoded guide turned back with the small nod of a parent. I followed my own shadow through the gates. On the other side there heaved a revolutionary chaos. It was not hell. Space shattered like an egg. Pieces of shell landed on the ocean.”
There is something very alchemical in your incorporation of near pornographic as well as more traditionally spiritual images, each presented with the same matter of fact clarity. On one level, the elements you present would appear to be in conflict, and, in terms of literary style, it is certainly surprising to see them juxtaposed in a single work. I would argue, however, that your logic is consistent.
You have embraced and kissed “the stone that the builders rejected”, and have set yourself the task of seeing lead and gold as two points on a hyperdimensional curve, whose end has never been truly separate from its origin. Your goal is perhaps not to turn one element into the other, but instead to grasp them as the different qualities of a single primordial substance. So too with the other apparent contradictions you explore- that of Buddhism with apocalyptic Christianity, of devotional meekness with the Luciferian pursuit of Kundalini, or of dream with the external world.
As the pendulum swings, both separating and then joining the Eros and Ares archetypes, each incompatible viewpoint serves to generate still greater energy. A war between the worlds precedes the marriage between opposites.
YOO-HOO, ADAM! OVER HERE!
"The only thing, for me, that really blasts through the toxic drone of modern life, with its water torture of red tape and repetition, its arcade game of spirit shooting, its antic evil clown persona, is a brilliant, singular, id-driven… bad boy. I mean ‘novel’. Okay, I mean bad boy."
- PSYCHOBIOLOGY http://xanaduxero.blogspot.com/2007/11/psychobiology.html
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PANARCHY!
It alllll has to go - even Anarchy.
MTMTE
reading this
Brings back something to me, as a teenager, it seems to me that the erotic element was what the "sexual revolution" was freeing up, as rock and roll opened up people to their natural sexual selves, and as the late 60's burst upon the scene, i remember young people exploring sexuality like the innocent unfolding of waking up to the Eros and Cool finding direction through active exploration like the pulse had just been freed from some spell, it was wild and at the same time there was a need to find its center, people made all the same mistakes, but there was a sense of some slow explosive discovery of the power of LOVE of self expression and identity that dropped religious fears and embraced the force of this new flower of orgiastic becoming.People naked together in the trees again, rolling around in psychedelic beds with the sound of Mick jaggers voice and pounding pulsing beats on the ceiling, the desperate act of some young teenage girl to lose her cherry, now not just in the back seat of a souped up Chevy, but on a big wooly bully magic carpet ride.
The rip tide was ripped open,time has come today, mini skirts away, and those boots were make for walking.Some velvet morning I'm going to open up your magic gate, and you can be Decembers's child.We ran on the beach together and made love to the sound of the surf.Love me two times girl, one for today and one just for tomorrow.Little surfer girl you will never hear surf music again, cuz, Jimi is takin over.Do you believe in magic?Love is blue, my sweet blue eyed flower child. The what's new happy pussy cat revolution, that erotic exotic forever moment in the kaleidoscope of total sexual bliss of being the body painting in day glow and goin down real slow, playfull like a kitten in your birthday suit,recovering your own creative feelings and not being ashamed to be yourself, you are beautiful baby, all the way inside and deep in there is a real person that is not just a paper cut out.All that trauma that they crammed you with, all those holy pictures of guilt and good girls, all that catholic dread fed to you with a dose of ugly body image.
Yes, and now, it has to be discovered all over again, the body is in the center of the soul, the soul in in the middle of the center of the invisible heart where the revolution is in the Buddha mind.Time to find the serpent key that unlocks the turned inside out star mirror of uncoiled life, the undressed words that find your crashing wave voice reflecting of all nature and naked at last.Thank,Goddess, we are naked at last.Summer Solstice meditation, so mote it be!
Blessed be! Blessed Beast! Blessed Be Her Now and Later baby!
why blessed be her? him is
why flower
why make silly ga ga post?
actually, it was a spelling mistake, the line is Be Here Now
and it became be her now, be him now, WATTEVER!
peace & love and flower power NOW!
Symbolic Overload
So, in case of sex:
*DO*: sacrifice self to eros, womankind, intimacy
*DON'T*: serve archetypes of masculinity
I get it, I get it.., because we hear it over and over again, from every New Age circuit.
Six men stripped down butt naked and thoroughly controlled is society, is civilization, and it's every day reality, over and over again.
The "transformation" you're describing has a name-- it's called "settling down," and it's a real horror.
Tranquilization and Pacification have been equated with Eros & Love. Everyone's seeking "World Peace."
"Visualize World Peace."
Well, have you ever done it? What did you see?
Here's the imagine that cames immediately to mind: Endless suburbs, miles of quietude, soft spoken people, an end to all conflict (globaly,) and deep and profound uniformity.
Whether we like it or not, whether we can visualize something else, this is the vision of World Peace that comes to people when we "Visualize World Peace."
I'd rather visualize World Inspiration, or World Enthusiasm, a Eudaimonic Society, which happened to also not have wars. ("Don't ask yourself what the world needs; Ask yourself what makes you come alive and then go do that, because the world needs people who have come alive.")
So back to sex: Please, don't tell the story of the tranquilization of the male by the female; This story is harmful to men. And by extension, harmful to women.
I mean, realize that your vision of the future is basically all females, regardless of your assigning them penii. You've basically invalidated male sexuality, And your prophecy's endpoint is the same as the endpoint of the SCUM manifesto, with just a different envisioned route about "how we get there."
tranquilization
ha!, boy talking about reading into, well i guess if we take all the imaginary exercises of story telling and all the wild flower poetry , and impesssionist/expresionist art ,abstract, performance art, poetry slams, and infinite soup cans, and symbolic male and female fig leafs, we get...
ta da...world peace!
anyway back to male rituals at the kumbuyya camp of bear hugs, thanks to Robert Bly
or Captain Crunch Bly, as i call HIM
symbolic overlord
LionKimbro Thank you
LionKimbro Thank you for commenting.
Do you know my story? If not, check out my Reality Sandwich profile, if you haven’t already – or my website www.amygeorge.net – If you do and you still have the same opinion of my ideas, then I will try to address your objections to the piece. Amy GeorgeHoly Smokes,
...what a difference that piece of information makes..!
Wonderful essay on comedy, as well.
Well i don't have time here
to write an Opus Magus right now, but i have a few minutes, so...
The Bride Stripped Bare By Her Bachelors,
Even,stepped through the doorway of infinite steps through the looking Glass her body became large or small one pill to unite them one pill to entrance them into the Basement...
the water is falling in a series of channels down the sluice goes the golden revolution, drip by drip, drop by drop, each curve of her machine like movement is broken into gates shattered into electric poetry, raining cubistic arms and legs going down the ramps and the slides the ladders and the snake follow to the great body of water through the window, through the female shape she left behind...
the water moved under her feet, the earth moved, the modern madness they call freedom, they told them they were hysterical, the leaves floated on the surface of the moon in the little lake, the image went down down, the summer breeze spoke and the pull of the lips draged on the sounds as the world fliped over
at each ruin the bird followed the seeds were embedded in the church wall , each brush stroke made another sign over the other one, quitely passing through the lone archway, the flowers of her foot steps awakened the found object at the optical illusion of the grinder pyramid coming through the dresser drawer man holding the LARGE GLASS, they passed through the buildings one by one,
seeing the doors move as the perceptions shifted along the lines drawn from point zero to zero point down along the arcades of the absolute, the soluble fish made the sign of the rabbit and how deep does it go.Her Feet Not Hurting THE SOFT FLOWERS.The red seeds bleeding on the Mary Statue, the Bride made the sign of the stars with the blood orange on the moon in the little lake bed.Garments laying on the floor of the rebelion of the gravity.Weds sleeping in the white moonlight little tears fall like yin-yang 6's and 9's if they would be.
Would Dr. Jung Agree?
Hmm. I'm not sure that the definition of "archetype" in the beginning of this article is really that accurate. In the words of Carl G. Jung, "The term 'archetype' is often misunderstood as meaning certain definite mythological images or motifs. But these are nothing more than conscious representations; it would be absurd to assume that such variable representations could be inherited" (Jung, in the introduction to the book Man and His Symbols).
What confused me was the idea that an "archetype" of a certain type of personality could rule someone's life, like the Adam Clay personality of an overly aggressive male figure. I really don't mean to sound pretentious or anything, I'm not at all obsessed with the defining of terms or anything, and this is my first post in the wonderful world of reality sandwich. I'm just confused with the usage of this term in this way, in following with Jung's original archetypal analysis.
Jung repeats over and over in the introduction to Man and His Symbols that there is a huge difference between what he terms the "personal complex" (personality) and the "archetypal character." He writes about the different archetypal characters that have places in mythology from around the world, such as the "trickster," (clown/thief) which first appeared in the oral mythology of the Native American tribe called the Winnebagos.
He is so careful to define the distinction between the personal complexes and the archetypal symbols that manifest themselves not only in myth, but in our subconscious. Jung was also extremely careful to state that symbols mean different things to every person. He states that "no symbol can be separated from the individual," meaning that no symbol, no matter how archaeic or archetypal, ever means the same thing to everyone.
I realize that I'm talking more about dream analysis than the eros and many other aspects to this well-written article, but it just launched me into thinking about Jung with the word "archetype" in the beginning...
The author of this article states that "archetypes may be unlearned, and replaced with self-awareness. " But my question is, in using the term "archetype" here really valid in Jungian terms? Isn't this more a description of personal complexes?
I'm only posting because I'm really very interested in hearing what everyone thinks, and I hope that someone can shed some light. Jungian psychology has always fascinated me, and in this case it even prompted me to sit down and try to articulate my confusion with whether or not the term "archetype" quite fits these scenarios. I wish I had the time to try and further support what I'm asking with more quotes, etc., but I hope this at least strikes up some ideas about the concepts. Any thoughts? :)
yeah, Jung
i remember reading Jung like my life depended on it, at the time.As far as interpretations of Jungian psycology one perhaps needs must seek out a qualified Jungian analyst.To put it all into some kind of perspective.I mean i see your point about universal symbolic language/personal complex.As far as to what triggers each persons complex subconscious association with a particular symbol or archetype this is the stuff of Shamanic art or the Psycologists art.If the practice is not just another personal complex stuck in a archetypal matrix, then some kind of free style association would allow for the greatest amount of complexity within the almost endless changes the archtype revolves around."Archetypal Character" would refer to some kind of higher order of man(woman) and hir symbols.
We seem to have lost the kind of mind Jung represented, and now it's all like one end object montage of symbols and graphic art, its more easy to moosh all the archetypes together into some kind of one size fits all "The Secret"
what is your secret? do you fancy universal or nonlocal, do you hve a secret fetish for reading Freud to the computer ? do you read all the secrets behind the secret? Does Carl Jung remind you of an old Owl with a pipe in his hand speaking randomly about the Mysterium Coniunctionis?
A little animustard on the hot dog...
drat because of that reply i can't fix my fau paux
sorry
Jung is indeed very Owl-ish :)
I completely agree that we have "lost the kind of mind Jung represented." It's sad, really! I love going back and reading him again and finding more things to think about. Archetypes and how they affect the conscious and subconscious aspects of human lives throughout history have always fascinated me (what an awkward sentence!).
And my secret? Hmmm, I seem to have many...I prefer universal, I actually don't care for many of Freud's ideas (although I'm sure he would say I'm just repressing sexual desire)...and Jung definitely is very owl-ish. I can just see him sitting in a leather armchair puffing away on a pipe and babbling on about archaic symbology...good stuff indeed :)
archetype as gas, complex as accelerator
Hi MarbleTulipJuicyTree, About your question I had to look it up. Here’s what Wikipedia says about complexes & archetypes: Jung saw an archetype as always being the central organizing structure of a complex. For instance, in a negastive mother complex [which I suppose is an example of a “personal complex”] the archetype of the "negative mother" would be seen to be central to the identity of that complex.
The archetype is gas, the complex the accelerator. The driver/ego has direct control over the complex, not the archetype. The archetype can be neutralized if the driver/ego takes their foot of the accelerator/complex. seems like you are pointing out that personal complexes and archetypes are in separate spheres, the former being individual and the latter beeing collective, which I would agree with, but still, treating the complex is essentially unlearning the archeype – or so it seems.
I dreamed that archetypes guard the door to the Self day and night, but they fell asleep and a guy opened the door, a circular door with these complex knobs and levers, cracking it open just slightly to let in “90 degrees of green-gold light,” which could destroy everything in an instant. It is where the aliens live.
"no symbol can be separated from the individual,"
For me the power in this quote is how it personalizes experience, allowing people to be responsible for the entire range of content in their minds, so that symbols no longer puppeteer them, but instead become a means through which they may exptress themselves.
thank you for contributing!
peace, Amy
wow!
Thank you for writing such a well thought-out response, Amy! That cleared everything up. I haven't read anything that put the personal complex and the archetypal character together quite like that, but I love the ideas and I'm intrigued to read even more Jung now. :)
Thanks for writing such a thought-provoking piece!
and what kind paux to faux is that, waaaah!
Ecstatic arrows activate their victim
Hi Amy,
1) “In essence, Eros and Kundalini are powers to sacrifice oneself to, like a mouse giving itself to a cat, like monks and nuns giving themselves to Christ.”
For a number of years before receiving Shaktipat in 1990, I had been practicing meditation under the guidance of a number of good teachers, as well as reading everything that I could get a hold of, but had almost entirely given up on the idea of any real physical or energetic transformation taking place. I knew that such things were possible, but I had come to assume that my system was inert.
When the energy did, in 1989, at last, begin to move- perhaps as a kind of signal broadcast backward by the future- I did not even realize for a few months what was happening. At one point, I felt an enormous pressure building up inside my head, and actually went so far as to schedule an urgent visit to my doctor; for fear that this might be the first sign of an aneurism about to break. Without the activated presence of the snake, any spiritual growth was no more than a concept.
In terms of my own experience, it has been necessary to first summon up Kundalini before it becomes possible to submit to it, although perhaps it is more accurate to say that one must first ask that a gift be offered before it is possible to accept it.; my breakthrough in this direction came through the action of a teacher, Anandi Ma, who communicated by direct transmission, not by words, and the breakthrough was perceived almost as the invasion of one body by another, in this case of a human male by a supernatural female. Your description of bodies moving inside of bodies brought memories of this period flooding back.
Eventually, the sensation was of multiple bodies clashing and interacting inside of one, until a sufficient degree of transparency had been reached. Agents probed and tested, opened and flushed out and ignited the channels that had long been closed.
2) “Woman A’s penis penetrates woman B through B’s penis, fluttering as it pushes B’s penis up inside of B. Then B’s penis pushes out, with both penis heads still touching. Woman B’s penis pushes A’s into A, fluttering and penetrating. Such penile movement becomes possible once Kundalini has married the flesh… The penis is reunited with its snake nature. Like Moses’ staff, the penis becomes a snake.”
Are you familiar with the Paleolithic images of shamanic figures transfixed by spears and arrows? (I have not, unfortunately, been able to find any good illustrations on the web.) There is quite a bit of debate about what these images mean, but my own sense is that they depict the idea of “ecstasy as a wound”- the sensation of being penetrated by higher dimensional energies, which can be perceived, as I have mentioned, as though many bodies were moving and interacting, at times violently, inside of one.
In New Age circles, the pain produced by this dimensional clash might very often be attributed to “resistance”, although it could just as easily be read as a natural part of the birth process, as a price that must be paid at the boundary between worlds, or as a sign that something big is going on. “Pain” is just one ego-bound interpretation of what might otherwise be felt as “ecstasy.”
Sesame Street Buddha
in this case of a human male by a supernatural female…Eventually, the sensation was of multiple bodies clashing and interacting inside of one, until a sufficient degree of transparency had been reached.
Brian, this was very much my experience, in 2000, being a human male and having a supernatural female emerge through me. Then in the following months, having lost my name and identity, I was a collection of selves dialoguing to put me back together: the mind, the body, the heart, wisdom, a therapist, a “soul-scientist” who was my observing ego, myself three years in the future, a 10 year old boy & a 10 year old girl who were brother and sister. Unified into one, they were called “The Sesame Street Buddha.” I was “We” for a couple years, and still am sometimes, but it is down to me and my five-year-old male self. There’s just two of us now.
like a cartoon without a punchline.
Snipers who live in glass houses
Hi vivifidal,
Don't you have anything better to do? Snide comments should be left in the high school cafeteria. You risk nothing of yourself by them. It is clear that you know who Keith Haring was. Perhaps one day you will learn that cynicism is no proof of superiority.
Hi vivfidal
Hi vivifidal, As I suggested to LionKimbro, “Do you know my story? If not, check out my Reality Sandwich profile, if you haven’t already – or my website www.amygeorge.net – If you do and you still have the same opinion of my ideas, then I will try to address your objections to the piece.” After taking up the suggestion, LionKimbro seemed to see the piece in a new light. Perhaps you will, too.
LionKimbro wrote: "Holy Smokes! what a differerence that piece of information makes. Wonderful essay on comedy as well" The essay he is referreing to is "Borat: On the Soul of Comedy."
Thank you for supporting me, Brian.
Amy George
Note (Caveat)
Do note that -- while knowing your story completely changes my interpretation of it:
I still find it to be a woman's point of view, and I see the trace of fundamental misunderstandings and mistrusts about men. I stand by my opposition to the "pacification" story.
My personal belief is that men and women will never ever really deeply understand one another. My hope is that we will manifest respect, honor, and love, for one another, welcoming differences as gifts.
cool, ok yeppers
Snipers who live in glass houses/ part 2/ to vivifidal
Hi again,
1) I needed to take a short break to remove the mote from my neighbor’s eye, before helping him to sew his testicle back on.
2) Let me see if I have this right. In your comment titled “MTMTE”, you state: “But it doesn't stop there and you get all the nuances of texture and fragrance of the Okeefian queefery of the not specifically reproductive aspects of sexuality that extends beyond gender. I like IT! And it never mentions shoes, NOT EVEN ONCE ! ;-)”
Does this demonstrate the use of a “non-gelatinous fluid” in the pursuit of universal “substance?” In which all “oozy vapidity” is avoided like the plague? You might want to consider spending five seconds thinking for every minute you spend writing.
3) Anandi Ma, the teacher that I mentioned in the comment above, was herself a student of Dyanyogi Madhusudandas. For the last 10 years before his death, at the age of 116, he had little faith in the efficiency of language. He would, however, at times give pithy answers to both big and little questions.
For example, to rephrase a true story in the form of a Zen parable:
A student once asked Dyanyogi Madhusudandas, “What should someone do if he has mosquitoes in his house? Is it wrong to kill them?” Dyanyogi answered, “Mosquitoes do not belong in the house!”
never said it was to be avoided
and I'm up to 8 seconds, which is sufficient bullriding, per minute but I'm typing pretty fast so the thought per word count is sometimes a bit low,not exactly egyptian cotton if you break it down by thread. I'm not married to every idea I have but I hate to see a good one slip by me. The cthonic oozy gelatinous funk, not worth either aversion or worship, but is worth noticing...its ubiquitous. The shoe reference is a pop culture reference thats not worth explaining...
Okeefian queefery, I just like how it sounds and how vividly descripive it is and it doesn't seem to show up in google so I worked it into the discourse like a calendar word of the day since it seemed to capture that at once militant, yet soft murky, funky oozy gelatinous aspect of female sexuality. Ok maybe I give more than eight seconds thought, but its not exactly linear...I wish I had more windows and if I don't clip some vines back my place is going to look like a hobbit hole, which would be kindof cool, but I think it would weaken the structure a bit since its not designed for that...
Sex is Violence
There Is a Choice
Hi McNuggetz, Holy enlightenment and sex don’t mix, yet holy enlightenment and Eros do. “Adam Clay” presents a reconciliation between them.
It’s folly to underestimate the power of myth.
Everyone ought to go at sex to the heart’s content, till it becomes so mechanistic that the heart is denied involvement in it. Only then can abstinence truly exhume eros from the graveyard of sex.
Abstinence is a poor idea for many young people. Many young people need lots of sex in order to ground themselves in experience. The more solid the ground of experience, the more solid is higher innocence, if given the opportunity to come.
Jesus wants girls who can receive him and boys through whom he can express the Kundalini of his cock, which he cannot do without Eros. The obstacle to this is that boys tend to be too weighted with the Beast to be erotic avatars of Christ. The onus is on them to receive the vagina, the vagina of the Earth, of the universe, to the extent that they are capable. It is a capacity that can be learned as the Beast is unlearned. There is a choice.
The point about pacification is well-taken. Pacification hurts. It is the meaning behind the Cross It shreds identity and is “agitating in the extreme,” yet leeaves man beautiful and alive, and utterly erotic in all things.
Like a virgin, touched for the very first time
Hi McNuggetz,
1) Do we really know that Jesus was a virgin, or is this propaganda invented many decades after his death? It would certainly be very unusual for a 30 year old rabbi from this period to be unmarried, and without children. Significant too is the fact that the New Testament leaves out almost all of his earlier life.
2) Perhaps Amy’s erotic images should be read as Tantric diagrams. If we read them in this way, it is not so much a question of people having more or less sex, leading toward or away from violence, but rather of the transmutation of all biological energies into knowledge.
To shift cultures for a minute, in Taoism this would be the transmutation of “gen” (root biological energy) into “chi” (astral and sexual energy, associated with the sphere of human action) into “shen” (spiritual energy, transhuman in its breadth.). World peace, like the microcosmic orbit, is not a thing to be created; it is rather the realization of a state of connectedness that has always been in existence.
3) The tale told by the snake has never left its mouth.
4) A dream is not a social program. Amy is not, after all, proposing legislation on compulsory sex and violence reeducation for the masses.
reinventing Jesus
It seems that people are always reinventing Jesus and tacking so much excess baggage to the archetype of the self-sacrificing or dying god that its rolled itself into one heckofa Katamari Damacy of a megacomplex. Thats the one thing, all my other verbal fumbling poking and prodding aside, that seems out of place like a Quiplothic false echo of a displaced Sephiroth. Animus Mundi is not equivilant to Mary Mother, or Mary Magdelin in the modern K'iche mystical system and I tend to view them as a school that keeps their archetypes well sorted. Jesus just doesn't seem like a very tantric avatar which doesn't imply celibacy either. A lot of traditional alchemical symbolism was simply a way to sneak the tantra back into spirituality by obscuring the symbols of pagan concepts but it never wanted or needed to transmute the church canon, just work around it, not incorporate it. Since thats not necessary anymore, I'm for a broader more pan-pantheistic approach, but if reinventing Jesus works for you, then go for it.
Violence is Sex
Thank you for taking the time to respond to my post!
1) http://zeitgeistmovie.com/ this answers your questions concerning Jesus.
2) Amy's erotic images...hmm manhandling, swinging, dominatrix, role play, hermaphrodite's, group sex, she threw in some animals and mythical gods as well.
All this talk about sex....hows does it relate to reality sandwhich?
I try to stay focused on the theme of reality sandwhich which is survival, awarness, and truth. Sex ironically could lead to human extinction. Christanity has many goals one is to control human reproduction. Sex is violence, look around you, the competition for sex is everywhere in nature. Sexual competition is often very violent. Did you know that males lions will kill the cubs in a conquered pride to trigger the females to mate? Do you know that all the biological energies aka the living force is trying to reproduce? It is what all living things have in common. Now that is profound knowledge! It is truth that is taken for granted and marginalized in the modern world.
3) I dont understand the tale told by the snake never left it's mouth comment you lost me?
4) A dream is not social program and like I said religion is the social program trying to control sex and violence for the masses. Too bad intuitively we know that religions are based on myths and peddled as truth.
Unlearning the Beast
McNuggetz, I would check out Zeitgeist, but my computer is too cheap. I get that broken film icon. Can you summarize it?
All this talk about sex....hows does it relate to reality sandwhich?
How does it not relate to Reality Sandwich? It’s exploring the depths of a psychic & cosmic reality.
Christanity has many goals one is to control human reproduction.
The institution invests in controlling reproduction, but the Bible is not nearly as preoccupied with it. “Be fruitful and prosper,” it says, and it says that Sodom & Gomorrah took it too far.
You are saying there is an imperative to perpetuate the Beast through sex. I say that we can choose not to perpetuate the Beast if we have adequate self-knowledge, knowledge of our ultimate, divine nature. Self-knowledge is something a lion cannot have much of because its psyche cannot be fractured like a human’s can. Don’t lose track of how different we are from animals. Lions have no apocalypse. Humanity has always been in the process of outgrowing and unlearning the Beast.
3) I dont understand the tale told by the snake never left it's mouth comment you lost me?
That lost me a little, too. I think it means, “You guys are having knee-jerk reactions without knowing the full-story behind what Amy is saying.” He is filling in the story eloquently with his posts.
4) A dream is not social program and like I said religion is the social program trying to control sex and violence for the masses.
A dream is a collection of perspectives bearing ego-transcendent meaning.
Though I use religious terminology, I am not religious. Jesus thinks it will do the mind well to have religious terminology reinvented.
Too bad intuitively we know that religions are based on myths and peddled as truth.
I agree. The mythic aspect of religion informs my reality, while the institutional aspect is something to ignore as much as possible.
Unlearning the Beast I dont know?
First I want to thank all you for posting comments. You have my attention.
The concept of the beast refers to the crude animal nature found in humans. Amy believes that humanity is in the process of outgrowing and unlearning the beast. I don't agree with that statement. I don't think it's possible to unlearn the beast. I do think its possible to embrace a more noble beastlike nature...a gentle horse, a spiritual cow, a soaring eagle or a playful dolphine. We are very different from animals I will agree with that. In my opinion humanity has more in common with the insect kingdom than the animal kindom. The world is filled with colorful people and insects. Insects are capable of magical and mysterious abilties just like people. A catapillar transforms into a beautiful monarch butterfly that can make a transatlantic crossing, leaf cutter ants can grow food. , Bees communicate by dancing, Spiders weave webs of silk, think about it. Anyway about the zeitgeist documentary its a must see movie in my opinion, part two will be coming out soon. Zeitgeist is a documentary about exposing myths peddled as truths. Its important to understand just how powerful a myth can be and how much damage powerful myths have caused humanity. For example almost all of the written Mayan culture was destroyed because the greed driven conquistadors considered Mayan writings heresy. I'm sure that you know this truth already. Without those ancient writings we may never know the depth of ancient Mayan wisdom and knowledge. There's a lot of mystery surrounding the galactic alignment in 2012 and the prophecies of the Mayans. I beleive the Mayans were trying to tell us something extremely profound. We may never know and its all because of a myth taken too seriously.
Why not Zeitgeist?
I stopped watching Zeitgeist after I paused it in the middle, did a little bit of fact checking, and found it coming up wanting.
From bogus etymologies, to completely made up dates and virgin births in old religions, ... ... and then we're supposed to buy a 9/11 conspiracy theory.
"But the mayans!" "2012!" It's all echo chamber.
The emotional manipulations in this video are really bald-faced. If "the man" put out a video like this, we'd rightly call foul, and dissect it 10 million ways.
I absolutely can't give my stamp of approval to this movie.
Bible = Astrotheological Literary Hybrid = The Fraud of the Age
Before giving a full critique of the documentary called Zeitgeist. I think it is reasonable to ask that you watch the entire documentary. It also reasonable for you to share your fact checking and then the source of your facts. I have said this before on a previous post and I will say it again. The truth can be difficult to swallow! "The Christian religion is a parody on the worship of the sun, in which they put a man called Christ in the place of the sun, and pay him the adoration originally pay to the sun" Thomas Paine 1737-1809. Don't you think it's reasonable and sane to question the orgins of the Bible? Are we supposed blindly follow a belief system without questioning it's authenticity? Here are some things to think about.
Does Jesus = Sun?
1. Jesus wears a crown of thorns. The sun has rays
2. Jesus had 12 disciples that travel around with him. The sun has the 12 constellations of the zodiac, the precession of the equinoxes.
3. Jesus is the "light of the world" The sun is light of world.
I could on and on...Is it a coincidence?
Moving on....to the 9/11 "conspiracy theory"
Could you or anybody reading this post give me a reasonable explaination for the free fall speed collapse of WTC building #7 or is it just another coincidence that WTC#7 collapsed exactly like a controlled demolition? Is it unreasonble to think that the war Iraq is all about money and oil? It is unreasonable to believe that our goverment is corrupt?
I could go on and on...
Moving on...to the 2012 thing
There are many things that could cause the world wide cataclysm/destruction of our planet earth. One of them is unimaginable power of our sun. So check these facts.
1 The solar maxium peaks in 2012.
2 Sun spot activity can be directly link to earthquake and volcanic activity on earth.
3 The magnetic field/shield of the earth protects us from harmful radiation called the solar wind.
4 Earth is a natural magnet and the current magnetic field that earth is generating has weaken substantially over the last few centuries.
5 The moon's gravity aka tidal force influences weather on the earth.
6 Polar shifts have occurred before.
I could go on and on but I don't have the time.
So here's a few more nuggetz to chew on...
Is it unreasonable to believe that tidal forces in our solar system influence the energy output of the sun? Did you know that Jupiter, earth sun will be in a line on one side. Saturn, venus sun in line on another side. And neptune, mars and sun in a line on third side. And finally our entire solar system in a line with Sagittarius A the unimaginable super massive black hole at the center of the milky way galaxy. All of this occurs concidentally?, on December 21 2012, the same day the Mayan long count calender ends. The same day the Mayans believed was the end of this cycle of creation. Will it all end? I'm not sure I'm still searching for the answers. My searching has led me to reality sandwhich. I have this gut instinct telling me that something is wrong plus I have a lot of respect for ancient civilizations. And yes I quess you could say I am a parrot because I do pass along wisdom and knowledge that is not my own.
self-perpetuating metaphor consumes fraud
If I understand, you are saying that since Christianity has pagan roots, it’s fundamentally invalid.
Christianity couldn’t come onto the world stage without precedence, but did over epochs; pagan epochs that cultivated collective consciousness to the point that people were able to receive the Christian message. Also, necessary as a precondition was the story of the Hebrews. (Here is a link to a dream-interpretation in which I address these issues.)
Christ was inherent in the sun as Mary was inherent in the Moon, as were pagans who made gods of Moon & Sun. Christ does not = the Sun, but the Sun + time + story = "the Light of the World."
Humans were inherent in the genetic material at the dawn of life. There was a time when you were rain, I was grass and she was a rock and he was a river.
As for astrotheological hybrids and frauds, I can say that metaphor is so self-perpetuating that no amount of will could forge it; and that the realities I share have been cultivated by dreams, visions and encounters with the godhead as well as raped through me by the universe, which edifies their veracity.
Hit this joint and we'll get to the point!