9/11 and Collective Consciousness

I spent too much time this past weekend revisiting 9-11, including truther topics and watching documentaries on the History channel. I'm shedding some of my trutherism, mostly because there are as many arguments for as against. Reading David Ray Griffin is persuasive, until you hear the Popular Mechanics arguments, which also make some sense. Like many a conspiracy, it's unanswerable. I'm glad some are
taking up the mantle because questioning the government is good, on balance. But believing -- with certainty -- that 9-11 was an inside job doesn't make more sense than other certainties based on only partial information. In a way, it almost doesn't matter if 9-11 was government-made, as Cheney and the cabal expressed that it was necessary in the Project for a New American Century.
One thing I don't see expressed very often is: why? Why even bother putting explosives in the towers? The effects of two planes hitting the World Trade Center would have sparked outrage and the desire for war. Maybe not the same as watching the towers fall, which was like watching reality itself dissolve away, but still this would have been an act of war that could have equally justified a war in Iraq and Afghanistan.
And so my head is going in another direction. I'm not saying I believe this theory, but I do believe it's possible at some stage in human history. There are two basic esoteric components: collective consciousness and the idea that the mind constructs reality:
Idealism is the notion that the mind produces the world. Bishop Berkeley is the philosopher most associated with this idea, which is similar to Hindu beliefs. Positivism is the similar notion that the mind constructs our reality. The Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics is basically positivist.
Maybe (an extreme maybe) what we saw on 9-11 was an example of that. If nothing else, this provides a way to explore ideas about what collective consciousness is capable of doing -- namely that collective human fear was what brought down the towers. Look at this report from the Global Consciousness
Project:
About the GCP:
The Global Consciousness Project (GCP) is an international effort involving researchers from several institutions and countries, designed to explore whether the construct of interconnected consciousness can be scientifically validated through objective measurement. The project builds on excellent experiments conducted over the past 35 years at a number of laboratories, demonstrating that human consciousness interacts with random event generators (REGs), apparently "causing" them to produce non-random patterns. A description of the technical implementation is given under procedures.
The experimental results clearly show that a broader examination of this phenomenon is warranted. In recent work, prior to the Global Consciousness Project, an array of REG devices in Europe and the US showed non-random activity during widely shared experiences of deeply engaging events.
Here's a direct link to the GCP's findings. Similar tests have been done regarding mind-matter interaction.
So there is some "proof" that 9-11 affected people's"connected consciousness." Millions of people's minds were focused onthose two towers. What's interesting is that the tower that was hit second fell first. To theorize -- it's at this point that people realized it wasn't a terrible accident with one plane, but it was a coordinated act of murder. So sociologically and psychologically, the second plane had a much bigger effect. What's also interesting is that the two buildings fell in an identical matter, even though they were hit in different places. It was as if the reality of all past history was dissolved. My God, everyone thought at once, the world as we know it is over. This collective thought then manifested in the towers dissolving before everyone's eyes. It gives new meaning to "9-11 was an inside job." Not inside the government, but inside the mind.
Interestingly, David Ray Griffin -- the main proponent of engineering-based trutherism -- actually has a spiritual explanation for 9-11 as well (which could cause some to doubt his other theories):
"My thesis is that the attacks of 9/11 were products of demonic consciousness, with 'the demonic' understood as an emergent reality that is diametrically opposed to the creative power of the universe and strong enough to threaten its purposes. To explain how demonic power can arise in a monotheistic universe. I use the philosophy of Alfred North Whitehead, with some help from Carl Jung. Then to explain how demonic evil arose historically, I employ ideas from Andrew Bard Schmookler's Parable of the Tribes. Finally, arguing that this demonic consciousness now exists most powerfully in the USA, I suggest that a preeminent manifestation of it in our time was 9/11, orchestrated by the Bush-Cheney administration. In making this latter argument, I will draw on my two books on the subject: The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions about the Bush Administration and 9/11 and The 9/11 Commission
Report: Omissions and Distortions."
This would "explain" how the fires in the twin towers burned for weeks after the event. Not because of thermite, because this was literally hell on earth. The collective consciousness theory also "explains" the fires -- the collective fear was palpable for months afterward. One thing I also don't see mentioned very often is that on the night following 9-11 there was a massive thunderstorm. Already reeling with stress from seeing the planes hit and witnessing the massive explosions, I was sleepless as the thunder pounded over and over again in a torrential rain. It had an almost Biblical quality -- a merciful rain to wash away the dust, but also a kind of judgment.
Do I believe any of this is what happened? No. Do I believe that -- at some point -- we may be self-aware of collective consciousness? Yes, at least to a larger degree than I believe the first proposition. And 9-11 was the biggest event in human history during the media age when an event was witnessed all around the world in real time, so it's the best starting point for investigation into this phenomenon.
All told, 9-11 was shocking and mysterious, which is why it inspires so much anger and conspiracy theorizing. Those buildings really did seem to fall in a way that defies rational explanation. The whole day defies rational explanation - it's so beyond everyday experience. This theory doesn't explain other anomalies, like the absence of a plane at the Pentagon, Building 7, etc. But regardless of what you think of this theory being literally true, there's no denying that 9-11 began a major shift in consciousness, and whether or not this consciousness can bend matter is only part of the story, as it changed people's conception of the world in a way that's not fully complete.
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Confusion and Cognitive Infiltration
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cant read this ariticle
The buildings were actually
The buildings were actually condemned for many years due to extraordinarily high levels of asbestos. They couldn't replace the asbestos and they couldn't demolish them because of the asbestos and deconstructing them was considered impossible (very very expensive). They never even even filled half the offices after all those years and it was losing money the whole time. That is, of course, until 9/11. Good thing Silverstein bought that insurance package a few eeks before the attacks. That one man made 5 BILLION DOLLARS PROFIT off the destruction of the two towers. Plus another billion off the WTC 7 insurance.
But it all goes MUCH deeper than just Silverstein as to why those particular buildings were brought down. But I don't think Reality Sandwich is the proper forum for that kind of discussion. There really isn't any deep politics on this website. Which is good, we all need an arena of positive thinking to be rejuvenate our optimism.
Thank you
My point here is not to discredit David Ray Griffin or Popular Mechanics. But it doesn't take a great leap to think that the Popular Mechanics arguments at least make some sense. It would take a fundamentalist to believe - with absolute certainty - either the inside job theory or the conventional theory. There's a disturbing amount of evidence that it was an inside job, but it's also not 100% conclusive. It would also take a fundamentlist to believe the theory I write about in this post. But I think the inside job theory is another fear-based materialist construct, and it gets people worked up without considering how there could be even larger forces at work than just "people planned this." If it was Bush or bin Laden, there's also a larger story at play. I'm not claiming that I've answered what that story is, but it's a proposal to look at the day from another angle. If we are facing consciousness evolution (as is the site's motto), then 9-11 would play a part in this, as it shifted the consciousness of the planet.
I'll grant that my argument for planes-only would have been cause enough to go to war is pretty weak, considering the payout for the towers collapsing. But as an excuse to go to war, planes may have been enough.
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"Great Leaps" & The Fallacy of PM's "reporting"
Henry you stated.
"But it doesn't take a great leap to think that the Popular Mechanics arguments at least make some sense."
Actually what if it did? What if it took a huge irrational leap to arrive at the conclusions that PM
came to which contradicts known laws of physics as well as all required evidentiary procedures for determing the method by which any of the 3 superstructures could have been felled by fire alone?
Would you write a retraction? Would you include this evidence to inform your position?
I would ask that you make the time to understand this crucial subject matter on a deeper level.
From there please revisit your original premise and adjust accordingly.
This is a fantastic article which refutes much of the subterfuge and obfuscation that amounted in the supposed debunking of the 9/11 Truth Movement.
Left-Leaning Despisers of the 9/11 Truth Movement: Do You Really Believe in Miracles? by David Ray Griffin http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=20039Henry you do know that you are citing an article that is 5+ years old right? (Feb 3rd 2005)
Wouldn't make more sense to make use of the ample available evidence that exists online in crafting your argument? Or does that not suit your intentions with this article? Would you mind explaining the following facts about 9/11 and how you managed to completely avoid them in your article? 1. The conclusive evidence of Military Grade Exposives found in the dust of WTC, 1,2, and 7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_tf25lx_3o 2. The evidence of Molten Steel present for over 100 days at ground zero. Kereosene fires fed by office refuse are incapable of melting steel. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx33GuVsUtE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-J60B4kOq0 And if you still have doubt about office fires ability to melt steel please watch this experiment done by a representative of the Architect's and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B64kthqkHLg Having absorbed and understood this information would you be willing to reconsider the direction and challenges presented in your article? Think of the thousands murdered on that day and the million plus murdered since and let your conscience be the guide. -Nano (The Nano Thermitic Pink Elephant)
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The Will To Know
GNOSIS is not for the faint of heart.
Jeff if you really want to know WHY? Then let us start with HOW and WHO.
This is why we need a real investigation with subpoena power.
But really it's all too obvious, just ask Who Benefits??
The rest is delays and distractions.
Americans were murdered. We will not stop until the questions are answered.
If you don't have the will to know then don't pretend you are of service to thisequation with pointless & abstract pontification please.
The limits of Armchair philosophy are evident. If anyone here cares to know, they can. From there there actions will demonstrate if what is known has really resonated.
Peace in the Middle East.
-Nano (The Nano Thermitic Pink Elephant)
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transpersonal forensics?
"Why even bother putting explosives in the towers? The effects of two planes hitting the World Trade Center would have sparked outrage and the desire for war."
The various motivs for destroying the towers have been explained in immense length and great detail. I don't think you've done enough research to refute the ongoing public investigation. Reading a couple books by a theologian and watching some of the more popular documentaries is not enough to speak with much authority on the matter. One should absolutely feel free to speculate the connections to global consciousness, planetary synchronicity, transdimensional timequakes or whatever, but please try not to push this kind of musing to far into the sphere of serious, technical, forensic and criminal investigations currently mounting worldwide. We already have a lot of intentional disinformation trying to paint 9/11 researchers as feeble minded or lunatic. And of course unintentional misinformation from overly enthusiastic theorists.
RE: Transpersonal forensics?
My sentiments exactly Teleomorph!
Well said!
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Jeff and Henry, the answer to WHY
Demons
Here's how I see it: if you're trying to get people on board with an engineering-based deconstruction of 9-11, throwing "demons" into the mix is going to turn off a lot of people. Maybe not Reality Sandwich readers, or myself, but it's an easy way for David Ray Griffin to be discredited - Oh, he also believes in demons. In a way, I am advocating the "demon consciousness" theory by saying what happened that day is greater than nuts and bolts. But everyday people - who will need to come on board with 9-11 truth for there to be a groundswell movement - may be turned off. That's all.
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Kudos
Well Said!
-Nano
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Demons and dis-information by henry baum
Honestly
It's hard to take your post seriously when someone who raises something the least bit skeptical is called a disinformation agent. Frankly, I find that sort of dangerous in itself - a kind of purity test for the fringe. Especially strange given the far out premise of the post - that "minds" brought down the towers. And yet, I still haven't passed the test because I have a small percentage of doubt. That's what they do in conservative religion. I'm obviously more open to 9-11 truth than the mainstream who mock truthers endlessly. A disinfo agent? I'm a novelist living alone in an apartment. Aside from the occasional tea with Rumsfeld, I'm clean, I assure you.
I acknowledge that the 9-11 truth movement has a lot of solid foundation. I've also read other information that hasn't made me a true believer of 9-11 truth. Frankly, I don't think it makes sense to be a "true believer" of anything.
For instance, one of the things that puzzled me was the absence of the plane at the Pentagon. Then I saw diagrams about how the plane might have been ripped apart inside the Pentagon due to a "forest" of columns. Does it give me pause that video of the Pentagon crash was confiscated? Of course. As I've said, there are many questions about that day. But I err on the side of agnosticism.
"Demons" or "Demonic consciousness" is splitting hairs. When I read about that presentation, I thought, Damn - because he's been very convincing in his arguments. It just makes him sound a bit credulous and paranoid. People have every right to be paranoid about this horrible topic, but maybe the guy who's representing a science-based study into how the buildings fell should be more careful about getting overly esoteric. That's for people like me, who doesn't need to retain the same level of credibility with the mainstream.
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the psyche of
the rift is so deep so beyond the 1 and the 1 two buildings or three the explosion of popular mechanics if they did not do it, they did it anyway lets ask the questions and the questions ask us what would Philip K. say?
Can you see the machine breaking down? or does it only happen when we look past the demolition event.Can we tare ourselves away from that TV and see the people that are on the TV? See, what they are looking at? Can they see out of the TV? Is this the matrix? this land once did not have TV towers.Did I have a childhood? or was I just looking at TV?
but, before there was bigger and bigger and 3D, there was silence and stars and language saw what was cosmos.
Um...
Really?
Charles Shaw
Author - Exile Nation
Ah why not...
I posted this on the other 9/11 piece, but it seems to apply here as well.I still maintain my "really?" though. I'm kind of baffled this piece got posted, given the apparent lack of knowledge about the topic the author clearly shows in his assertions.
Anyhooooo...
Mr, Baum, with respect...
I found this piece [as well] painfully naive, and fatally flawed in its dismissal of the real (as in true, as in "unofficial") causes, perpetrators, and events of that day.
Regardless of how symbolically a propos the attacks were as a statement against American hegemony and consumption, the most important aspect of the attacks is that they were the most important event of our lifetime, and perhaps in American history. They forever altered our culture, our government, our society, and they led to the deaths of millions. And the official story was the biggest lie ever told.
We will never have official confirmation or acknowledgement of the real perpetrators, but that's of little importance, and a wasted expectation. There are dozens of major operations in America's past equally nefarious, and clandestine, not the least of which is the JFK assassination. The thing is, those who want to know can find out the truth. So much of it is already known, documented, and verifiable. The problem is that truth is useless without the will to believe it.
9/11 is the litmus test for the cultural shift. Those who see through the illusion and understand what really happened belong to the evolving culture, the culture willing to see things for that they are and tell it like it is. We have gone through, or are going through, the process of iconoclasm and demythologizing. The act of joining this culture is part of the process of the political and spiritual awakening the people in this culture are all engaged in, on both a personal and cultural level. Going through the transformation, confronting and contending with the cognitive dissonance, facing both the personal and the collective Shadow, grappling with the alienation and disillusionment, and ultimately emerging on the other side with clarity and without illusion, is the psycho-spiritual "Hero's Journey" we each need to embark upon.
It IS important to know the truth, even if only for yourself. It is essential for our good intention to come from a place of clarity, and not illusion. Yes, the US, and us as its citizens, have terrible karma to face for the atrocities of a century of imperial ventures. But lets not make the mistake of believing that the attacks were a retributive act, for we have no place for the liberal guilt stream here. What was done to this nation collectively on that day by the junta that orchestrated the attacks is perhaps the greatest crime ever perpetrated against the American people, and perhaps the world. If we are guilty of anything, its letting the political process be taken away from us (if we ever had it in the first place), not knowing enough about our own history, and for many, being too cowardly to face the truth.
That's why this is so much more a deeply personal motif than any collective movement. Movements can be easily quashed. Nothing can stop human evolution, and no one can stop you from transforming. But you must, if you'll pardon the metaphor, take that red pill and go through the painful and traumatic process of being ripped from the machine ("unplugged" is a bit of an understatement). It's a long hard road, but there is light, serenity, and acceptance on the other side. Once you let go of attachment to the American myth, it ceases to cause you pain.
Eventually, the clamor raised by billions learning the truth on their own and in small groups will drown out the hoarse and wheezy sputtering of the aging officialdom still peddling their phony, preposterous Bin Laden story. Some day we'll look at them like we view Catholic priests--forever discredited by pedophilia and never to be trusted again, no matter how many robes they wear, wielding only the illusion of power, based upon a preposterous religious mythology and the omnipresent threat of eternal hellfire and damnation, long past its "sell-by" date. Likewise will the deluded politician, wielding only the illusion of power, peddling an equally cornpone American mythology, and warning of the omnipresent spectre of "terrorism."
Be the Ball.
Charles Shaw
Author - Exile Nation
Mr Shaw
Really enjoyed your comment, thank you. I especially enjoyed the parallel you make between religious myth, and the myth of the American Dream. Humans need to transcend mythical consciousness in general. That is the battle now being fought in our collective psyche.
I believe that the rational arguments surrounding 9/11 are most attractive to those who are evolving to the rational stage of consciousness. Hopefully, the current economic collapse will further accelerate the replacement of myth with mind.The seed-pods of rational consciousness are bursting open to reveal the next consensus worldview, and 9/11 truth is doing its part to fertilize that process.
Thanks
I enjoyed your comment too and respect your work, but I don't exactly see how it negates what I've written. Wondering about certain information posed by the debunkers and weighing it against the smart work by engineers is not the same as saying "9-11 wasn't an inside job." That to me would me to seem to be the absence of naivete. It would be naive to accept everything written by David Ray Griffin without weighing the opposite argument. Same goes for other issues like UFOs - if you're not able to at least humor the arguments of skeptics, then something's wrong.
I have made clear here that I have many questions about that day. I have also said that all of those questions have been answered with certainty. It's a complicated issue, so some amount of uncertainty is inevitable, and, I think, healthy. I also wrote here that given what was written in the Project for a New American Century, this event was desired by the cabal, regardless of what engineers for truth have determined. I fully understand the corruption of power at work here. So where you're seeing "dismissal" I don't understand. One would think this is a debunking article - when the basic premise is that there's possibly a grander story at work here than is normally discussed by truthers or skeptics.
I really like this: "9/11 is the litmus test for the cultural shift. Those who see through the illusion and understand what really happened belong to the evolving culture, the culture willing to see things for that they are and tell it like it is."
To somehow think I'm not on the right side of this transformation because I find some of the skeptics arguments are - at least - plausible is denying an amount of nuance for something as incredibly complicated as the transformation in human consciousness. That I haven't passed the litmus test because I question the truther story to any degree sounds to me like trading one fundamentalist belief for another one. You're either with us or against us. That doesn't entirely sound like a cultural shift. It seems naive to me to not consider that this story is a lot more complicated than all the information we've thus far been given.
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Clarification
Henry,
You will find that David Ray Griffin's work is not a collection of his own theories, but an examination of the lies and omissions of the official story. Griffin himself never once posits an alternate theory, he simply shreds any credibility in the official version. I know Prof. Griffin personally, and I can attest to the fact that this is his greatest frustration.
Regarding Popular Mechanics, well you can be forgiven for not knowing they are a historical "debunking" platform for the government and military establishment. Under scrutiny, their methodology is fairly easy to tear apart. "Debunking" is a fairly specious practice. It requires beginning with a conclusion, then reverse engineering the event it to fit the preordained conclusion. But it's deceptive. Debunkers have *proved* that one man could shoot three bullets and hit multiple targets with only two of them as in the JFK assassination. But that doesn't prove the Oswald theory, it just proves that with some determination another human being could possibly accomplish the stated goal of three shots.
However, it's impossible to reverse engineer a three building global collapse without tampering with the raw data. In order for NIST and FEMA to *prove* their "pancake theory" (which, by the way, even they have backed off on now and changed their story a few times) they had to remove the 40-odd structural steel columns in the cores of the twin towers from the calculations. Their famous NOVA computer model that convinced everyone of the pancake collapse did not factor in those columns, and Griffin proved this simply by taking the math to experts who parsed out the calculations.
Their explanation of Building 7's collapse involved portraying the damage to WTC7 as substantially worse than it actually was, and this conflicted with the official report.
But you dont need to be a demolition expert or architect to recognize that WTC7 was a classic controlled demo. A retarded monkey in a coma could have seen that.
Henry, I didn't mean to insinuate you were "not part of the culture." But it is kind of a "you are with us or against us" situation." Try talking about this to someone who refuses to consider the inside job, it's a highly adverserial situation.
However, if you do still have doubts, I assure you, all the answers you need are out there. I recommend beginning with Richard Gage and "Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth" and then moving on to Steven Jones' work on the demolitions, then "Pilots for 9/11 Truth" to address the plane issues. Then look up Christopher Bollyn's work on the largely CIA/Mossad, Neocon-Likkud network that pulled it off.
I disagree there is a middle road. The truth is quite plain: a rogue cabal (a "junta") of American Neoconservatives and Israeli Likkudniks, using Saudis and Pakistanis, committed the attacks. The US Government merely covered up the truth by sanctioning the Official Story. How this cabal pulled it off is a complex-sounding story, but remarkably simple in practice. If you understand "compartmentalized operations" its easy to see how this was done.
I'd be happy to explain more to you if you like.
Charles Shaw
Author - Exile Nation
Thanks for the clarification
I'm on board with what you say, which is why I find some of the criticism here puzzling. It just sort of creeps me out when doubt is met with such aversion. I understand that some amount of “belief in the cause” is necessary to fight off the very evil powers-that-be. But those powers-that-be also quash dissent, which is a little bit what I’m seeing here. It's not out of the realm of possibility that the truthers are right about many things, skeptics are right about some things as well. That doesn't bring down the entire truther story - but as 9-11 truth is a minority opinion, and it's so vital, I understand why some don't want it questioned.
Believe me, I've read a fair amount on this subject, and I've been on board with the truth movement. Recently, I've had another line of thought, as you see here. Basically because fearing the junta feels like shit - so I've opened it up to another line of reasoning, that something might have happened that day that is out of human perception. Can't be proven as much as Griffin's work, but throwing it out there. The JFK assassination is a similar topic - even if there was a lone gunman, the result was something that certain criminals wanted, and maybe there was a greater "force" at play than just guns and ammo. But you're right if you think that part of me clings to the illusion that maybe this wasn't man-made by our own government - because that idea is just really depressing. Fearing Al Qaeda or fearing the junta is the same aggravation. I'm not putting my head in the sand, but I am trying to look at this from an angle which doesn't suggest the world's coming to an end.
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Well...
I'm all for the spirit of inquiry, and I personally welcome challenges to my assertions. But in the final analysis, it is my absolute conviction that any free-thinking individual who takes the time to look into the issue will invariably come away with the belief that the official story is absurd, and that is was most definitely an inside job. Too many internal mechanisms of control were pulled for it to have been anyone from the outside.
I wouldn't shun those who hold to the official line, I would try to convince them, only if they expressed a desire to know. I stopped trying to convince the unwilling a long time ago, because its a waste of time. But eventually, your patience will run out and you ill have less and less in common with those people. Or so I have seen.
Charles Shaw
Author - Exile Nation
Alex Jones
Want to add, I've read what you've said about Alex Jones and agree with it - while we're on the subject of disinfo agents (see above). That sort of firmheaded belief in 9-11 truth is just not so effective. I just wonder if it's more persuasive to non-believers to say "the skeptics make a few valid points" than saying "If you believe this then you're a retarded monkey" or screaming in a bullhorn. So some amount of nuance can be useful.
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Agreed
No one likes to be called a retarded monkey, least of all the monkeys themselves. I don't approach people that way, I've actually refined my presentation of the issue down to a science. I begin by asking questions, not hurling claims.
Alex Jones is a retarded monkey, though. Sorry, just keepin' it real. >;0)
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My Apologies
My apologies Henry for any agression in my other post. Unlike there, I like to be firm in my position, And soft in my words, to converse, not attack. My process, sorry. I must add, that I would never tell a skeptic that they have a few valid points, because I have never heard even one, let alone a few.
To take from Charles Shaw above, "We will never have official confirmation or acknowledgement of the real perpetrators, but that's of little importance, and a wasted expectation."
It was probably just in the last 6 months I had the thought, it may now be a waste of time to think about 9/11.
So, I'll relax and Trust now, no attack needed. Oh, one thing, I think I passed the retarded monkey test because as I watched the towers after the first plane hit live that morning 9 years ago, and they then collapsed, my first thought was ..."C.I.A. Now the American Government has carte blanche to do whatever they like". It was so obvious to me that they had been taken down with esplosives, that, later, the official story was quite funny. I couldn't believe people bought it, but then again, we have our fears, which include the need of feeling secure,a security whcih seems to depend on the government. and so how can we have a conscience and admit to something that people have been denying since I was born , that the government(and royal family, military-indistrual complex etc.) is a murderous organization(s)(think mafia, but bigger and better), only interested in themselves and their family and friends. Most humans don't get included in the Queens friend's category. As George Carlin said, They Don't care about you at all, not at all.
What am I going to do about it. "Gonna live my life" peacefully, as soon as I cough up this last bit of frustration.
Thanks, Jeff
This is basically what I'm getting out. Not that "Inside job" is a distraction, because if this story ever came out in the mainstream, it could shattter society's state of mind. That could jumpstart other important cognitive changes that need to go down. But it also feels like another political battle that might neglect a larger narrative. Focusing so much on humanity's negative potential - killing each other endlessly - we could be focusing some on the positive - our potential cognitive power. Which is why I may appear to be "lessening" the importance of 9-11 truth here, but mostly what I'm trying to do is replace the fear with some information about humanity's potential.
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Cowardly Escape
So Henry do you have any evidence to support your slander in this regard either??
It reminds me of all the people who slandered the Honorable Cynthia Mckinney because the TV told them too. What do you know about Alex Jones? Do you listen to his program? Have you taken the time to fact check any of what he has said?
As for Cynthia Mckinney, if you still have a media fabricated opinion of her being "crazy" or "aggressive" or whatever else they crafted to silence her. Then please make the time to see the accused side of things. (Google American Blackout and Watch)
No one is perfect, all parties digitally present included, but can you provide one iota of fact to substantiate any of the drivel that continues to pour out in your responses? It seems you want the conversation to devolve into unknowable metaphysical soup. I mean cuz hey we just can't know certain things right! Why try! Yes your right, whats the point of Science anyway??
To Reality Sandwich, no offense but I can't imagine why you allow someone like this to post complete nonsense wrapped in a pseudo scientific, pseudo spiritual shell of double speak and misdirection and won't feature an article from an Scientist answering conclusively these assertions with all the finality that proper investigation could provide.
If you are willing please contact me and I would be happy to find one of the 1,305 Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth to respond in short order.
We can in fact know many things via the mechanism of science.
The faculty of reason must be restored if we are to evolve proportionally to the challenges we face.
Thank you.
-Nano (The Nano Thermitic Pink Elephant)
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RE: Cowardly Escape
Don't try to shift the emphasis to Alex in this thread either.
If you want to attack him go ahead and do your research, post it up (I'm sure you will have much sympathy on RS) and we will settle that issue on it's own merits.
The topic of 9/11 is too important to bounce off to another subject.
-Nano
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Fear Merchant
Alex Jones is a fear merchant. It's his job to see nefarious conspiracy everywhere and scream about it, not necessarily to offer any solutions. Robert Anton Wilson called his type "adrenaline addicts." And when he does support someone it's someone like - Rand Paul. If you support McKinney I think you can probably see the fault in that line of support. There's some proof about his faulty logic right there.
At the same time, I acknowledge that he does serve a useful purpose for reaching people about these topics. I just don't like some of his tactics. His righteous anger may be justified but I think the 9-11 truth topic should be handled with more seriousness. So he's got problems. The same goes for a movie like "Zeitgeist." Enormously important for opening up people's minds. But flawless? You yourself say, "No one is perfect, all parties digitally present included." That's really all I'm saying.
I'll acknowledge that I was too flippant in my presentation of the truth argument - but honestly I believe this is a better line of reasoning to reach the non-convinced than saying, "9-11 was an inside job and nothing you could tell me could convince me otherwise." Evidently, on RS there are many people who fit that description, but I didn't write this with true believers in mind. I was trying to get people to look at this story from a different angle. And I think approaching such a far out topic is actually more persuasive if you start out from a skeptical standpoint because it gives the conclusion a deeper purpose. But then again, it's also honest - I have not given myself over totally to being 100% convinced in the inside job theory. The comments here have been instructive. Maybe they've been instructive too to someone who was on the fence about the inside job hypothesis. So just saying "This shouldn't be printed" will not encourage inquiry or understanding of this extremely contentious topic.
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Alex Jones is a fear
Alex Jones is a fear merchant. It's his job to see nefarious conspiracy everywhere and scream about it, not necessarily to offer any solutions. Robert Anton Wilson called his type "adrenaline addicts." And when he does support someone it's someone like - Rand Paul. If you support McKinney I think you can probably see the fault in that line of support. There's some proof about his faulty logic right there.
Ok first of all. Who is the real fear merchant? The one who identifies lies of the government and reports them? Or the Gov't which lies continously and in so doing jeopardizes the very fabric of life and society for it's own benefit. The examples are too numerous for the scope of this response so I will leave you with just a few. Then maybe you can reconsider your ad-hominem attack and if you can please present any evidence to substantiate your slander.
1. Gulf of Tonkin- Admittedly never happened, 3 million dead Indo-Chinese and 58,000 Americans later and all of their loved ones pay dearly because of this lie crafted by real fear mongers
2. 2009 Swine Flu Hoax - the WHO and Big Pharma collude to dupe the world into accepting untested vaccines for a made up pandemic. Of course the Pharmaceutical companies were given complete immunity by our Govt' for their untested and unneccessary vaccines. Billions are made and untold legions are at risk for degenerative auto-immune diseases thanks to this mass propaganda fear mongering campaign.
3. Weapons of Mass Destruction - 7+ years later, 1 million dead Iraqi civillans later as well as untold numbers of deaths and caualties to US forces for what is a prime example of real fear mongering.
I could go on and on. So let me ask you, Is Alex Jones really the problem?
As for Cynthia Mckinney and Rand Paul. I have no idea where you are going with this because you never provide evidence or sources for your claims. You in fact just made in inference.
Care to explain?
-Nano
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The History Channel
Seen it
"9-11 Mysteries" was one of the first things I saw that told me that something else was going on. On the History Channel that day there were a lot of man-on-the-street documentaries, which can be pretty compelling. I have my own story that day - I was living in downtown NYC and saw the planes hit as I was waiting for my girlfriend to arrive at Penn Station. At the train station, the baggage handler told me that the towers had fell, which I immediately didn't believe. Seemed impossible, that he was misinformed. Anyway, revisiting the mainstream story as it unfolded that day brought up some sense memories.
http://theamericanbookofthedead.com
from Kennedy to 9/11
Tapped into the Collective Conscious just in time
I felt like something was about to happen, like the calm before a big storm, so I had to get out of the country, and I left on Sept 10th. I was a CEO and my chairman of the board could not understand my desperation that I had to get out of the country now with impending meetings with clients. I was sure all of that would be delayed anyway - but I did not know why. I must have tapped into the collective consciousness. Because I was not going to stay in the USA one more moment than necessary and really in my waking mind I had no idea. Nevertheless, I made my Mom fly to Florida to stay in my house and left. I barely landed in Zurich when it happened. But I did not even know about it, since I did not even want to turn on a TV until in my hotel room much later that evening although I had hear rumors of a horrific plane crash from people in the lobby. I was very shocked when I found out, but I knew that something was going to happen, something that I could not even imagine. I ended up staying in Eurpoe for 3 weeks, before returning and all of the meetings were delayed.
My intuition was not so good before, but I had started to meditate more often - since then I have had dreams which have told me about other future events in more detail - but I am sure I just tap into the collective consciousness now and again. Now am a full time Yogi and spend allot of time in meditation at my own retreat in Costa Rica on the top of a magnificent waterfall. I moved here just before the market crashed - that was in the collective consciousness too.
Fateh
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A healing journey
9/11 and the Mind
Thanks for this interesting, open-minded essay on 9/11 (although you might want to look up 'positivism' in an encyclopedia).
In my own article The 9/11 Cube I show that 9/11 appears to be an encoded message announcing the Second Coming of Christ. The event itself seems to have been a reenaction of the Crucifixion, with the Pentagon representing Christ and the twin towers the two criminals. I believe 9/11 also represented the defeat of the antichrist, the casting of Satan into the pit, the fall of Babylon, the destruction of the beast, the Day of the Lord, the destruction of the two witnesses and other biblical prophecies and narratives such as the Tower of Babel story in Genesis 11.
What I am saying is that a higher power--God if you like--created 9/11 to fulfil Judeo-Christian eschatological expectations. However, the idea you explore about our collective consciousness actually creating 9/11 is in my opinion also corrrect. The link between my religious interpretation and the psychological one is the Jungian model where the Second Coming is an archetype in the collective unconscious activating in the psyches of individuals at this time in history and thereby manifesting in the world around us. 9/11 was the primary focus of this manifestation.
i was born on 9/11
Wow a disinformationist shill contributing to reality sandwich
Henry, i suppose you've seen the interview(debate) with Jason Bermas and the poster boys for cognitive dissonance from popular mechanics. A lot of people say that popular mechanics "owned" the boys from loose change. Well, like yourself, i think these people have their heads so far up their own descending colon , they think the sky is brown and pink. They deflected, parried and avoided simple questions, and came across as a bunch of pretentious, condescending assclowns. And you think they are convincing?What about Architects and engineers(who have overseen skyscraper projects) such as Richard Gage, world respected physicists such Prof Stephen E Jones who as far as i am concerned, have provided ample evidence to reduce the popular mechanics arguments to the steaming pile of shit that they are. Honestly, if you are going to post such a poorly researched, deceptive load of shite, maybe you should give up the journalism and go and be a fulltime popular mechanics cheerleader. The way you have trivialised this whole sordid episode in human history, makes me sick. My uncle and aunty both died in 9-11, and this pathetic smear piece that you think qualifies as journalism, dishonours their memory and the memories of all the victims, who were basically expendable pawns in a game in which criminal elements of the US government, in collusion with corporations, and so called philanthropists enacted a plan that has been well documented in PNAC and CIA operations such as northwoods( a blueprint for flying hijacked planes into buildings in a false flag terror attack). Look at what has happened to the world since that fateful day. Our freedoms and civil liberties eroding by the day( To protect us from those "evil Islamists"). Read George Orwells 1984, and tell me that is'nt prophecy. Who is really benefiting from the aftermath of 911? If you call yourself a journalist, start asking smart questions, instead of posting half baked truths and slipshod, misleading, poorly conceived excuses for idea's.
You say that people on here are "creeping" you out because they are criticising you for "Creating doubts". Well give your heart a rub and grow some cajones, because if those doubts are based on poorly researched, flimsy idea's, then you my friend will be shot down in flames by people who are obviously armed with more facts than you. Not conjecture and pissweak speculation . If you dont have the guts and the backbone to weather that, then i think you should consider a new line of work. Maybe a sales position for popular mechanics would fit the bill.
Sorry, got a bit emotional
I apologise henry. This has unearthed some painful memories. I know as soon you inject emotion into an argument, you lose vision and perspective. But i do believe you could have asked more relevant questions, and researched this a bit more. I would be interested to know which media outlet owns popular mechanics. Is it completely independant? Once again i apologise for my tirade.
Here is a link that contains a letter(with many other links contained within that letter) that Richard Gage wrote to a congressman
http://groups.google.com/group/total_truth_sciences/browse_thread/thread/282eb15c854299ad
With regards to it being an inside job, i think there is much evidence out there that supports that notion. Read the transcripts of Cheney and Rumsfelds account of what happened with regards to their wherabouts that day, the stand down orders for NORAD, and many others. There are holes in their stories you could cruise a battle ship through. The reason they have'nt been brought to trial for war crimes, is because the people they represent( Because really people such as Cheney are puppets), either own or directly control the corporate sound bite machine that parades around as the media. And quite conveniently, they also happen to own and control the whole military-industrial complex.
To say it is counterproductive to spread awareness about this horrible attrocity, is just a little obtuse. The more people that know the facts, the more that the Jungian "collective consciousness" that you speak of will be awakened. And less vulnerable the masses will be to the lies of these putrid criminals, who ape patriotic sympathy in front of the corporate media(Read propaganda machine), but behind closed doors plot and scheme to further their own(and the people they represent) megalomaniac agenda's.
As the old cliche goes, he who does'nt understand history is destined to repeat it. A quick look at the history of false flag terrorist attacks will confirm that for you. Research The Lusitania, Gulf of tonkin, Pearl Harbour, the Reichstag building, just to get started. This will give you some background to the the criminal, murderous minds that we are dealing with here. 9 -11 was just the latest in a long list( However, they are all incremental steps to a grander plan). The bigger the lie, the more sleeping masses will believe it . How many examples of this through human history do you need, before you realise our world is governed by the biggest arch criminals out there. People who think nothing of commiting genocide and megadeath, to further their sick, fucked up agenda's
Peace guys.
No Apology Required
You needn't apologize. Many times our first reaction is the most proper analysis of the situation.
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Thanks, no problem
I wasn't sure how to respond to the first comment. Very sorry about your loss. You're right that I could have approached the 9-11 truth topic with a better look at the evidence. But as I've said, I didn't intend this to be a piece proving the inside job hypothesis. It's intended to go in an entirely different direction. The point is for people to be open to all lines of reasoning - including something as far out as "consciousness brought down the towers" which, at its core, means possibly devaluing the planted explosives theory. It has skepticism about both the conventional story and the traditional truth story built in. So there may have been no other way to write this than to start from a skeptical standpoint. What I could have said, though is - The inside job hypothesis makes a hell of a lot of sense, given the amount of evidence, here's an alternate explanation. My fault - as I've admitted, I still feel the tug of not wanting to believe that the government is so evil, or even capable of such an orchestration.
I'm repeating myself, but I acknowledge that the Cheney cabal wanted this, regardless if they planted explosives, so I realize their potential - one of my points is that deconstructing how the towers fell is is almost an afterthought. It's important, but all you have to look at is the endless "War on Terror" continued by "liberal" Obama. So I don't even think 100% certainty about engineering principles is entirely necessary. I'm glad that some people are doing the work - but, personally, focusing on 9-11 is looking backward rather than forward. And the "consciousness" hypothesis is one way of looking toward the future, even if it's not literally what happened that day. Basically, I'm sick of fearing what the world's capable. I think that makes me less of a disinformation agent than human.
But I also think it's disconcerting that "open to skepticism" can mean the same thing as "spreading disinformation." Being open to skepticism is an important part of the dialogue - if the point is to reach the "truth" of what happened. Disallowing skepticism isn't truth, it's zealotry. And the result is some of the reaction I've seen here: if you're not 100% certain, you're on the side of the enemy. This seems like a strange approach to someone who's obviously open to alternate theories, rather than - if you've demonstrated any amount of doubt, you should be banned from the club. That seems like another kind of closed society that shuts down possible routes of exploration.
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Thanks for your understanding Henry.
To be honest, i did'nt think you would dignify my posts with a response after my first post, an emotional rant if i ever saw one.=)
Listen, i think skepticism is a healthy thing. I think most people on this website are inclined to question the nature of reality and the world we live in, rather than blindly swallow what the corporate mass media feeds us daily with its drip, drip of cortisol inducing disinformation. However, on this particular issue, it comes down to the balance of evidence and probabilities. When you look deeply into it(both sides of the coin in the interests of fairness), i think that any doubts about 9-11 not being orchestrated by criminal elements within the government and corporate structure, become moot.
I agree with you that as a species, collective consciousness, and an awareness of this, is the only way that the human race can emerge from the darkness and be truly free, and not the plaything of some lofty cabal. Awareness of the facts of 9-11 is extremely important(especially to my family and i), in the sense that it can assist with waking people up to the idea that we are mind controlled by the corporate mass media, and that a lot of our idea's have been planted there to distract us from our intrinsic nature, consciousness. However, i see your point. If this becomes the sole purpose for our thinking and research, maybe we are missing something. There are many different paths, but ultimately they lead you to the same destination. Back to inner space, or consciousness. Which is the essence of who we are.
Thanks guys
I thought it was obvious ...
collective consciousness
COURAGE
Let Us Be BRAVE!
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moving on ....
I believe - like many others I have met - that the time has come to raise consciousness collectively. Moving beyond all the goal posts we have inherited and unconsciously accepted. We are evolving towards global awareness. Everything is about to undergo this change which will be all encompassing. Some of us will insist in remaining in the driving seat for lack of any real role models perhaps.
I suppose this may be seen as self-publicity but I have been working on this for a while now. You're welcome to check out the Nomadic Oracle - www.thenomadicoracle.com. We are all working on our stuff ... this is mine.
@ Malleck
I checked out your link.Intriguing to say the least. Fascinating. Kudos. Divination is a powerful resource for us all, that transcends time, space and culture.=)
Are you familiar with Michael Tsarion and his Taroscopes?
http://www.taroscopes.com/home.html
Cheers
Popular Mechanics debunked
Henry Baum writes: "Reading David Ray Griffin is persuasive, until you hear the Popular Mechanics arguments, which also make some sense." Almost none, except to the gullible. The PM debunking has itself been debunked at http://www.serendipity.li/wot/pop_mech/reply_to_popular_mechanics.htm
He also writes: "Those buildings really did seem to fall in a way that defies rational explanation." The Twin Towers collapsed in approximately free-fall time (about ten seconds), which thus excludes the official explanation in terms of plane impacts and fires. See http://www.serendipity.li/wtc5.htm#freefall
Henry is too ready to abandon hope for a rational explanation. One is that the Twin Towers were demolished by the use of small H-bombs (state of the art devices courtesy of the Pentagon). This explanation is, of course, not established, but it is rational. See http://www.serendipity.li/wot/finn/military.htm
It's really pretty simple
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Stories in the Human Collective Consciousness
There's plenty of theories and research done on this character, though we're not even sure he was real. The only proven fact is that geology shows that there were sea level changes around the general presumed pre-historical era the story "might" reference. That's like saying, the only proven fact is that the towers fell on 9/11.
Proven fact plays a very minor role in how 9/11 relates to the human collective consciousness. 9/11 is evolving out of the realm of an "event" to the realm of a "story." Everyone has their version of this story. The point is in what is not spoken.
Personally, I think this is what happened on 9/11 and the subsequent years to follow:
A primitive, ultra-violent element existing within the human collective consciousness acted out -- whether Al Qaeda, Mossad, Neocons, our collective fear, or others is irrelevant to the bigger picture. This acting out was the shadow of human collective consciousness rearing its ugly head, emerging into the light. In so doing, the shadow either opens itself up to transformation by the light, or wreaks havoc upon the world.
Events in history cannot be discussed in a simple manner using linear causality as many people attempt. For example, the Fall of Rome is an ongoing story being told by historians for over a thousand years. The causes and effects continue to vary, flying in the face of linear causality and forcing revisions in the story, but one thing is clear: the Fall of Rome is a fascinating story, as long as it is told well.
9/11 is a similar chapter in the story of the human collective consciousness. As a story, now existing in the past, it does not have causes and effects (things which are only relevant to the present). Instead it has preceding and proceeding chapters, from which we learn and for which we attempt to guess. If 9/11 had not happened, a similar chapter would have still taken place between the preceding and proceeding chapters in the story of the human collective consciousness.
Or in simpler words, using an analogy, if Christopher Columbus had not voyaged to the Americas in 1492, some other European would have, and with similar events following and preceeding.
In the gradual evolution of historical analysis of an event, the names, facts, motives, and causes can and usually do vary, but the raw massive inertia of the evolution of human collective consciousness cannot be stopped or swayed by any human event. Only an external force can speed up or slow down evolution within a system (see Darwin and Wallace).
When I was 2 years old, I broke my leg. 9/11 was a lot like that, relative to human collective consciousness.
Riddled theories (holes I mean)
"-if you want an independent inquiry, how are you going to bring it to a trial and conviction? Will it be a kangaroo type of vigilante court? The Hague? A UN international court?"
You could start with the Nuremberg trials as an example of one avenue of justice. I say let the people decide. First and foremost the family members of those who lost their lives that day and then the people of NY.
Now let me ask you something. If one of your family members were killed that day, and you knew there needed to be a new and independent investigation in order to claim justice for their murder. Would you sit on your hands because you don't believe it is possible for a fair trial? What exactly would you do? Your answer speaks volumes as to your character in my opinion.
"2) There are already purportedly so many leading scientists, architects, engineers, demolitions experts, professionals, etc. who have already lent their testimony--what is yet another investigation supposed to uncover? A review of the current catalogue of evidence? Any thing new to be introduced? What do YOU, you 9/11 Truthers, hope to accomplish with this 'independent' inquiry? Do you think it's seriously going to pull the wool off the eyes of the world and suddenly the whole illuminati-esque game will finally be revealed to all, and then what?"
Yes there are literally thousands of Scholars, Scientists, Architects, Engineers, Physicists, Fire Fighters, Pilots, Lawyers, Politicians, First Responders, Intelligence officers, Military and Police Officers who question the "official" conspiracy theory of what really happened on that day. Not to mention over 100 million Americans who believe the government is not telling the entire truth about 9/11. And I didn't bring up the Millions across the world watching and pleading for American's to wake up and take their country back.
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20070906103632686
You may not understand the implications of having any of these experts testify in a real investigation but please don't try to use it as a means to lambaste those who do.
The investigation would obviously prove what we already know in a court of law, allowing for prosecution and restitution for all of those affected, and allow the psychological permission for the most recalcitrant and reluctant believers in government propaganda to finally join those already fully awake to what happened on that day and what our Gov't has been doing for centuries under our noses and with our financial consent.
Yes you could say this has REVOLUTIONARY potential to say the least.
Perhaps we could see endless war on terror come to a stop. Soldiers lied to by their government returned to their waiting families, funds necessary to provide food and economic stimulation for the 1 in 7 impoverished Americans removed from the coffers of the Military Industrial Complex. I dunno, You May Say Im A Dreamer. But I'm Not The Only One BABY.
Now let me ask you something again.
Just what happens if we do not wake up the sleeping masses to this trajedy? What happens if humankind hits the snooze button and continues to slumber past the evolutionary deadline staring us in the face? Again this question says much of your character and your seriousness in regards to human evolution and the need for truth in our world.
"#3It's equally frustrating reading many of yall launching insults at Mr. Baum and Mr. Drda, saying the same thing over and over again, regardless of how many times they explain themselves. Read what they're saying! Think about for a second before shooting off at them and the ideas they're presenting. Don't be part of the problem. Take care how you represent yourselves. Don't go spitting on their articles for not being what you think they should be, and what they are clearly not trying to be. Think before you shoot. "
You may want to take your own advice here. I don't believe you have actually read my responses to either gentlemen's statements. I simply corrected their misstatements and asked that they become better familiar with the evidence. Perhaps you should do the same.
I don't recall launching any insults myself. Correction is not an insult. It's only insulting if you are willfully ignorant of the facts and cannot stand to have your uneducated opinion corrected with facts. Reciting outdated and poorly constructed propaganda serves no one except those guilty of these false flag attacks.
Now I have one more question for you.
Why are you defending the ignorance of others?
-Nano (The Nano Thermitic Pink Elephant)
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9/11 and global hegemony
It's true that there will never be an independent inquiry, at least, not until all the 9/11 perps are dead and the event is as far in the past as Pearl Harbor. Those people who can think long ago came to understand that 9/11 was an inside job, perpetrated by elements within the U.S. government (perhaps with outside help) and some of them decided to follow the advice of Mahatma Gandhi and take the path of resistance:
"You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and decrees. An evil system never deserves such allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil. A good person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul."
One of the main motivations of the 9/11 perps was indeed to affect the "collective consciousness", specifically, to overwhelm it with fear and hatred to the point of inducing "collective insanity" and the impossibility of reasonable thought and judgment. The immediate effect of 9/11 was to get most Americans onboard with the Bush administration's attack on Afghanistan, a warm-up for its attack less than 18 months later on Iraq, and part of the general ongoing strategy of U.S. "full-spectrum dominance" toward the goal of unopposed global hegemony (and total control of the Earth by the international bankers).
The use of psyops such as 9/11 to control and direct the "collective consciousness" has long been understood by the powers behind the scenes. As stated by Reichsmarschall Hermann Goering:
"Why of course the people don't want war ... But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship ... Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger." -- Quoted at http://www.serendipity.li/wtc.htm