as I have previously been led to believe that the US media in particular is bereft of any progressive debate and certainly, as you say Helexia, seems to ridcule it if it does come up. We in the UK are somewhat luckier in that our media at least attempts to widen debates on certain issues (an example of the contrast can be seen in this documentary: http://www.mediaed.org/videos/MediaRaceAndRepresentation/PeacePropaganda) although there is still a lot of stuff that just doesn't get talked about.

That said there has been a renewed interest in fringe topics in mainstream media here too recently. There was a documentary about the much lampooned conspiracy theorist David Icke entitled 'David Icke: Was he right?' on our channel 5 fairly recently and only a few days ago Andy Thomas of a british organisation that holds talks and symposiums on fringe debates and crop circles was invited to speak on prime time programme 'The one show' on our channel 1 about conspiracy theories. Unfortunately I missed it so cannot comment on the final output. However, only last night, the regular news review and current affairs show Newsnight (something of a british institution) dedicated an entire show under the title 'Unsustainable world' sparked of course by the recent focus on the food crisis. Topics covered were wide ranging and surprisingly even handed and infused with the sense of urgency usually only reserved for matters that under any kind of scrutiny usually reveal themselves to be rather pointless disputations of semantics, obscuring the real issues at hand.

The problem of course with these kinds of issues popping up in the mainstream of course is that because of our channel change, attention/focus stunted, throwaway culture is no better exemplified than in the mass media, these issues, like many others, are quickly and easily forgotten and the debates remain relatively shallow and show no sign of working towards resolution. For now anyway...!

Still, when all's said and done I think these are fairly positive signals of what may be to come.

I am yet to read his books but know some friends that have copies that i will borrow in the future for certain. I am intrigued to understand his theories of the reptilian bloodline and shapeshifting as its the most outlandish of his otherwise very sober and often not all that controversial thought (these days anyway). Despite that fact, most people latch onto this and, as you say, misinterpret other things he has said in order to dismiss him out of hand.

A lot of people i know, some of them close friends, almost all of them intelligent and questioning beings, have this same attitude to icke and others. Its a type of cynicism that runs very deep i believe. Its unfortunate and ironic because it amounts to close-mindedness in individuals who strongly believe themselves to be otherwise. It seems that our habit of scoffing at ideas continues, despite the lessons of the past that teach, 'maybe the "truth" isn't the final "truth" we could know.'

I'd be interested in hearing what his talks are like, so you'll have to fill me in! Don't know where you are in the UK but there are some interesting talks put on near to me (east sussex, nr brighton) by the Andy Thomas chap i mentioned. The org. is called changing times and they have a variety of speakers all on salient subjects :-)

REPTILES ONE... HUMANS ZERO:

http://xanaduxero.blogspot.com/2007/11/exploring-illuminati-reptiles-one...

Perhaps an engineered, controlled explosion?

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PANARCHY!  

It alllll has to go - even Anarchy.

Hahahahahahaha! As IF!

The Ascended's goons will rip that camera out of your hands, Helexia... but you can BUY an overpriced video at his Conce$$ion Stand, of course.

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PANARCHY!  

It alllll has to go - even Anarchy.

its true! Even anarchy must go! But words are simply arbitrary signifiers that fall short of the mark. All language is an abstraction and ultimately engenders sedimented idealogies. But I guess thats why I personally enjoy the ideals contextualised under anarchy because it has its own personal meaning for me as does anything for anyone else! Living in a way in which one can survive in the material realm but at the same time redressing your rituals and habits as regularly as possible.

Check out www.crimethinc.com. Changed my life!

Peaces :-)

anarchy is a concept that has grown and evolved over the years but has always essentially been about emancipation, even from thoughts on what that is itself. It has an interesting history and is all too often written off because of the negative connotations that have surrounded the word itself. It always implies chaos and disorder and conditions that lack harmony. Nothing could be further from the truth! If that were so, we'd be living in an anarchic paradise right now! An = without arkos = ruler. No gods. No masters. So....one has to look within and to each other.

Seriously www.crimethinc.com. They are a self dubbed ex-workers collective and have written three books. The first is called 'days of war, nights of love' and totally changed my life. The new one's just come out and I am yet to read, but apparently tackles the fundamentals of applying uninhibited ideals to the real world :-)